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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:00 am

Western Global pilots are joining ALPA after NMB certified election.

Western Global Pilots Vote to Join World’s Largest Pilots Union
https://www.alpa.org/news-and-events/ne ... joins-alpa
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:32 pm

Our favorite DC-8 took an Easter vacation but has been back at it this week. Round trips to SDQ on Monday/Tuesday and MGA on Wednesday/Thursday. N873SJ still seems to be on the ground at MIA, unless it made a stealthy escape back to LIM that we have missed. Went back through on ADSB and didn't see any record of movement. Have to wonder what the plan is for sister ship at this point, I'm sure that the fees to park at MIA aren't ideal.
 
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:28 pm

Just a quick note that Aerostan's 742 EX-47001 seems to have gone flying Eastbound from Bishkek about 9:30am EST, and is currently (6:30pm UTC) flying Southbound at 37.000 feet over Eastern China. First recorded flight since March 17th. Good to see her in the air.

Our ragtag fleet of other 747 Classics all seem to have been working the last several days. Geo Sky, Aerostan, TransAviaExport, Fly Pro.

And Longtail's two 744s, after that little incident that made them a household name in the Netherlands, have been reliably-plying routes around the world the last few weeks.

Indeed, the only one of our overall Pirate Fleet that I'm following that isn't busy is ATC's 744 ER-BBC, which has been in Brussels since 3/30. The rest of the AeroTransCargo and Terra Avia fleet is busy. WSJ was talking about how insane the international air freight rates are this week -- if you can find a plane. The iron is hot!
 
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Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:10 pm

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Just a quick note that Aerostan's 742 EX-47001 seems to have gone flying Eastbound from Bishkek about 9:30am EST, and is currently (6:30pm UTC) flying Southbound at 37.000 feet over Eastern China. First recorded flight since March 17th. Good to see her in the air.

Our ragtag fleet of other 747 Classics all seem to have been working the last several days. Geo Sky, Aerostan, TransAviaExport, Fly Pro.

And Longtail's two 744s, after that little incident that made them a household name in the Netherlands, have been reliably-plying routes around the world the last few weeks.

Indeed, the only one of our overall Pirate Fleet that I'm following that isn't busy is ATC's 744 ER-BBC, which has been in Brussels since 3/30. The rest of the AeroTransCargo and Terra Avia fleet is busy. WSJ was talking about how insane the international air freight rates are this week -- if you can find a plane. The iron is hot!


I was thinking that after an Easter hiatus myself I might take a look at the coterie of Classics and other bits & pieces of interest. Thanks for your update.
-Nice to see EX-47001 running, she ended up at MFM a regular port of her sistership '02, who seems to be working the MFM-KHI-SHJ-RUH line.
-Fly Pro ER-BAR has popped up at FRU also, having positioned there from LOS a week or so back, and having performed a couple of circuits, perhaps after a light maintenance visit with Aerostan's team? Last seen overnight heading eastbound, presumably to pick up a load in Asia.
-Terra Avia ER-BAC & BAG are busy with work across South Asia and West Africa.
-ATG are crazy busy, with up to 5 aircraft airborne at any one time
-Western Global are having a good urn with N456KD, on a mix of civilian and military runs. 344KD has positioned a week ago to RSW and remains grounded. And flagship factory F 258NS seems to rarely miss a beat operating TPAC out of LAX.
-Will have a look at NCR a bit later, but in short it looks like their bird 729 which was stranded in Morocco and which positioned to HHN still seems to be there. Nearly a month out of service now.
 
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-Western Global are having a good urn with N456KD, on a mix of civilian and military runs. 344KD has positioned a week ago to RSW and remains grounded. And flagship factory F 258NS seems to rarely miss a beat operating TPAC out of LAX.


*258SN I should say, unable to edit post.

Also, any further news on the following from fellow contributors:
- ex-Wamos EC-KXN, which still looks to be at FRU, perhaps to join Aerostan?
- N251KW still at MCI?
- ER-BAE still at CGK?

And any updates from IAI with the 747 conversions?
 
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Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:04 am

Any word on the rumor of (2) ex-NWA 747-200Fs coming out of the desert to play?

The market is, as others stated, extremely hot right now. Not the best time for ER-BBC to be taking an extended vacation in BRU but everyone else is pulling their weight in lovely Kazakhstan. Summer 2021 is really around the corner. Wonder which (2) 747s of ATC bid farewell to NQZ as homeplate and make the switch to AMS?
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Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:43 am

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Any word on the rumor of (2) ex-NWA 747-200Fs coming out of the desert to play?

The market is, as others stated, extremely hot right now. Not the best time for ER-BBC to be taking an extended vacation in BRU but everyone else is pulling their weight in lovely Kazakhstan. Summer 2021 is really around the corner. Wonder which (2) 747s of ATC bid farewell to NQZ as homeplate and make the switch to AMS?


The NWA rumour seems to have gone quiet of late.
Another one I’ve been following is Ruby Star’s 744 EW-556TQ which is doing good service between Europe and Asia. Using Karaganda as a hub.

Also Transaviaexport’s 743 EW-465TQ is nice and busy plying Europe to Asia also.
 
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Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:15 pm

Sounds like JetTest will be busy with some more MD-80 movements these next few weeks, with three this week, and what sounds like more in the next few weeks as well (https://twitter.com/JTTsteve/status/138 ... 66731?s=20). They moved ex-Allegiant MD-83, N883GA, from BHM-BYH this morning for a C-check at ART before its next life (https://flightaware.com/live/flight/JTN ... /KBHM/KBYH). Might mean that some of the earlier Allegiant MD-83s that have been in C-check at BYH since the end of January are ready to leave
 
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Anyone know what's up with FedEx 9090? Seems to be a maint. callsign but it caught my eye, being an MD-11 flying out of LAX that is currently doing donuts near Pueblo, CO at 8000 feet (2-3000 feet AGL)
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Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:34 pm

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gdavis003 wrote:
MO11 wrote:

As of Monday, USA Jet has purchased 7 of the MD-88s.


I have N969DL, N972DL, N966DL, and N978DL down as the four MD-88s at DHN for USA Jet at the moment. What are the other three? I presume that some of these will be used for parts for the others but would think that the four now at DHN will indeed be converted


N912DE, N913DL, N971DL



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Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:19 pm

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Anyone know what's up with FedEx 9090? Seems to be a maint. callsign but it caught my eye, being an MD-11 flying out of LAX that is currently doing donuts near Pueblo, CO at 8000 feet (2-3000 feet AGL)

Flight test, it appears they were using the Pueblo airport to calibrate something. Headed back to LAX now.
 
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Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:54 pm

Spacepope wrote:
Anyone know what's up with FedEx 9090? Seems to be a maint. callsign but it caught my eye, being an MD-11 flying out of LAX that is currently doing donuts near Pueblo, CO at 8000 feet (2-3000 feet AGL)


This plane had a bounced landing protection system installed. Flight test happening on a project in conjunction with the FAA.
 
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Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:27 am

DC8-62f has left JNB after C Check and is now back in the DRC.

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Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:40 am

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DC8-62f has left JNB after C Check and is now back in the DRC.

9S-AJG


That is some old iron there. Still making a living though over the plains of Africa.

Speaking of old iron. Caught that ER-BAR was in Macau the other morning. Glad to see it making the rounds.
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Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:43 am

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Speaking of old iron. Caught that ER-BAR was in Macau the other morning. Glad to see it making the rounds.


Great to see -BAR keeping busy. She seems to be running between MFM and unknown points in the subcontinent or Middle East. Similar to the Aerostan lines of flying currently.

It’s amazing to often see 7 or 8 Moldovan registered jumbos of various configurations cruising around most days.
 
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Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:02 am

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It’s amazing to often see 7 or 8 Moldovan registered jumbos of various configurations cruising around most days.


And don't forget EX-47001 and EX-47002, the ex-Kalitta 742Fs which, I'm happy to say, are simultaneously flying these days. Can't count out Aerostan!
 
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Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:14 am

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It’s amazing to often see 7 or 8 Moldovan registered jumbos of various configurations cruising around most days.


And don't forget EX-47001 and EX-47002, the ex-Kalitta 742Fs which, I'm happy to say, are simultaneously flying these days. Can't count out Aerostan!


My personal favourites! And I’m really hoping they are picking up the ex-Wamos bird which still seems to be sitting at FRU.
 
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Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:52 am

dorn12 wrote:
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Anyone know what's up with FedEx 9090? Seems to be a maint. callsign but it caught my eye, being an MD-11 flying out of LAX that is currently doing donuts near Pueblo, CO at 8000 feet (2-3000 feet AGL)


This plane had a bounced landing protection system installed. Flight test happening on a project in conjunction with the FAA.


See : https://www.safeflight.com/safe-flight- ... ng-md-11f/
The program has probably been delayed by the covid-19 crises.
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Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:08 am

Regarding the Lufthansa Cargo MD11F aircraft , the below linked article (in German, pls use google translate) gives some clues : the aircraft were first sold to the Boeing Aircraft Holding Company and then sold on to UPS, FedEx and Western Global.

See : https://www.aero.de/news/Wo-Lufthansa-C ... -sind.html
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Here's another exclusive from me and https://www.instagram.com/west_coast_aviation/:
Asiana Cargo 747-400F HL7414 is returning to service!! She recently had engine #2 and #4 attached and it looks like she could be in service by the summer season! Interestingly enough it looks like HL7414 is MUCH further along in the process to return to service compared to the two China Airlines Cargo 744Fs (which are still sitting in the same place, all taped up, and without engines. Please PM me if you want pics of those and we'll figure out how to get them to you.
Link to images: https://www.instagram.com/p/CNiEI09h6co/

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Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:36 pm

I know I could look it up, but I'm super-distracted today, so I hope someone can just give me a yes or no to the following:

SO this is different from the parked 744 (I think also HL-registry) that's being revived with parts from the LH passenger bird as donor? That's at MHV and this is at VCV, correct?
 
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Here's another exclusive from me and https://www.instagram.com/west_coast_aviation/:
Asiana Cargo 747-400F HL7414 is returning to service!! She recently had engine #2 and #4 attached and it looks like she could be in service by the summer season! Interestingly enough it looks like HL7414 is MUCH further along in the process to return to service compared to the two China Airlines Cargo 744Fs (which are still sitting in the same place, all taped up, and without engines. Please PM me if you want pics of those and we'll figure out how to get them to you.
Link to images: https://www.instagram.com/p/CNiEI09h6co/


Great catch! Looks like there are 2 more engines staged ready to go by the rear fuselage. This is a CF6 powered example.
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Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:25 pm

wjcandee wrote:
I know I could look it up, but I'm super-distracted today, so I hope someone can just give me a yes or no to the following:

SO this is different from the parked 744 (I think also HL-registry) that's being revived with parts from the LH passenger bird as donor? That's at MHV and this is at VCV, correct?


Correct. I believe that the ex-Eva Cargo 744 is the one at MHV that is supposedly being revived with LH parts
 
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Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:55 pm

Spacepope wrote:
VCVSpotter wrote:
Here's another exclusive from me and https://www.instagram.com/west_coast_aviation/:
Asiana Cargo 747-400F HL7414 is returning to service!! She recently had engine #2 and #4 attached and it looks like she could be in service by the summer season! Interestingly enough it looks like HL7414 is MUCH further along in the process to return to service compared to the two China Airlines Cargo 744Fs (which are still sitting in the same place, all taped up, and without engines. Please PM me if you want pics of those and we'll figure out how to get them to you.
Link to images: https://www.instagram.com/p/CNiEI09h6co/


Great catch! Looks like there are 2 more engines staged ready to go by the rear fuselage. This is a CF6 powered example.


That airplane was sold to JimSunn Air LLC in January. Its reserved registration is N452SN. Pretty straight forward.
 
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Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:07 pm

MO11 wrote:
Spacepope wrote:
VCVSpotter wrote:
Here's another exclusive from me and https://www.instagram.com/west_coast_aviation/:
Asiana Cargo 747-400F HL7414 is returning to service!! She recently had engine #2 and #4 attached and it looks like she could be in service by the summer season! Interestingly enough it looks like HL7414 is MUCH further along in the process to return to service compared to the two China Airlines Cargo 744Fs (which are still sitting in the same place, all taped up, and without engines. Please PM me if you want pics of those and we'll figure out how to get them to you.
Link to images: https://www.instagram.com/p/CNiEI09h6co/


Great catch! Looks like there are 2 more engines staged ready to go by the rear fuselage. This is a CF6 powered example.


That airplane was sold to JimSunn Air LLC in January. Its reserved registration is N452SN. Pretty straight forward.


So it's going to Western Global, then.
 
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Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:15 pm

Just in case anyone wonders why I think that, there are like a thousand clues.

First, just the reg, which is the last 3 of the MSN (25452) with an SN suffix. This is how Western Global does it. Last-3 of MSN plus SN, JN, or KD.

Second, the name of the entity: JimSunn Air LLC. The owners of WGN are Jim Neff and Sunny Neff. Jim Sunn -- get it? Also, that explains the suffixes on their reg numbers. KD is the airline's code, JN and SN are the owners' initials.

Third, JimSunn Air LLC is actually the managing member of Mobility Air LLC, which leases the newer aircraft to WGN. Before that, each aircraft was in its own special-purpose LLC, which was named B (for the 747s) or M (for the MD11s) plus the MSN.

Fourth, just because I'm a nerd, the official address of all of these companies is 7892 Fisher Island Drive, Miami, FL, a large, $9MM+ condo on schwanky, exclusive Fisher Island in Miami, which is the home address of...the Neffs. The Neffs basically own all the aircraft and lease them to WGN.

Fifth, not really a direct indicator, but more like something that doesn't exclude my theory: Jim Neff is a disciple of the CF6 engine. Loves them. All Western Global's planes only run GEs. At least that's what he used to say on the WGN web site, when it was less-polished.
 
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Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:53 pm

MO11 wrote:
Spacepope wrote:
VCVSpotter wrote:
Here's another exclusive from me and https://www.instagram.com/west_coast_aviation/:
Asiana Cargo 747-400F HL7414 is returning to service!! She recently had engine #2 and #4 attached and it looks like she could be in service by the summer season! Interestingly enough it looks like HL7414 is MUCH further along in the process to return to service compared to the two China Airlines Cargo 744Fs (which are still sitting in the same place, all taped up, and without engines. Please PM me if you want pics of those and we'll figure out how to get them to you.
Link to images: https://www.instagram.com/p/CNiEI09h6co/


Great catch! Looks like there are 2 more engines staged ready to go by the rear fuselage. This is a CF6 powered example.


That airplane was sold to JimSunn Air LLC in January. Its reserved registration is N452SN. Pretty straight forward.


Wow, did not know that, thank you!! Looks like we’ll see this one flying state-side pretty often then :)
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Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:56 pm

gdavis003 wrote:
wjcandee wrote:
I know I could look it up, but I'm super-distracted today, so I hope someone can just give me a yes or no to the following:

SO this is different from the parked 744 (I think also HL-registry) that's being revived with parts from the LH passenger bird as donor? That's at MHV and this is at VCV, correct?


Correct. I believe that the ex-Eva Cargo 744 is the one at MHV that is supposedly being revived with LH parts


That is correct.
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Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:19 am

wjcandee wrote:
MO11 wrote:
Spacepope wrote:

Great catch! Looks like there are 2 more engines staged ready to go by the rear fuselage. This is a CF6 powered example.


That airplane was sold to JimSunn Air LLC in January. Its reserved registration is N452SN. Pretty straight forward.


So it's going to Western Global, then.


Hopefully just for parts.

414 was a particularly difficult bird when i last handled it.
 
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Hopefully just for parts.
414 was a particularly difficult bird when i last handled it.


Seems like a lot of work for just parts. Probably easier to just part it out in place rather than hang engines on it and reregister it. But you're the expert.

If it's going to be flown in revenue service, what I really hope is that they don't try to prep it at SHV if they're planning on using it before 2022. N258SN spent 7 months in SHV before being ready for service. In contrast, VT Aero San Antonio got each of National's 3 "new" 744s ready from the desert recently in 2-3 months, mostly like 9 weeks, including a full repaint.
 
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Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:39 am

And after several days waiting for better winds, N54AU made it to HNL today for Aloha flying.
 
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Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:06 am

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Just in case anyone wonders why I think that, there are like a thousand clues.

First, just the reg, which is the last 3 of the MSN (25452) with an SN suffix. This is how Western Global does it. Last-3 of MSN plus SN, JN, or KD.

Second, the name of the entity: JimSunn Air LLC. The owners of WGN are Jim Neff and Sunny Neff. Jim Sunn -- get it? Also, that explains the suffixes on their reg numbers. KD is the airline's code, JN and SN are the owners' initials.

Third, JimSunn Air LLC is actually the managing member of Mobility Air LLC, which leases the newer aircraft to WGN. Before that, each aircraft was in its own special-purpose LLC, which was named B (for the 747s) or M (for the MD11s) plus the MSN.

Fourth, just because I'm a nerd, the official address of all of these companies is 7892 Fisher Island Drive, Miami, FL, a large, $9MM+ condo on schwanky, exclusive Fisher Island in Miami, which is the home address of...the Neffs. The Neffs basically own all the aircraft and lease them to WGN.

Fifth, not really a direct indicator, but more like something that doesn't exclude my theory: Jim Neff is a disciple of the CF6 engine. Loves them. All Western Global's planes only run GEs. At least that's what he used to say on the WGN web site, when it was less-polished.


Excellent workup as always. I too hope that WGN's new 747 doesn't head to the SHV den of dispair for servicing prior to entry back into the world of the living. Yet another case of someone walking out into the desert, to a long forgotten 747 and saying, "Leviathan Rise".
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Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:13 am

Normally only the removed parts and engines (the most expensive items) are replaced at the storage site (in this case VCV).
Then the aircraft is ferried (by special permit) to a MRO facility for a HMV. Depending the workforce, with structural expertice, on site and the possibilities for a quick change of rotables, the aircraft can be ready in a few months time. But all depends of the amount of cash invested and the actual storage condition of the aircraft and the amount of AD's that have to be corrected.
If only the minimum legal requirements are satisfied , the aircraft will indeed be the next "difficult bird ".
So a proper overhaul facility (e.g. UPS MD11F's and National 744's at SAT) will cost a little bit more, but the extra investment will be recouped in a few months time by a far better dispatch reliability..
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Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:26 pm

On Skybus Cargo's Planespotters page, 3 DC-8s are marked as being withdrawn this month (April 2021).
Registrations
N802DH
N803DH
N805SJ

Where are the frames now and will they be flying again? Or are they just parts donors? :(
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Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:17 pm

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On Skybus Cargo's Planespotters page, 3 DC-8s are marked as being withdrawn this month (April 2021).
Registrations
N802DH
N803DH
N805SJ

Where are the frames now and will they be flying again? Or are they just parts donors? :(


That just meant that the regstrations had expired. The first two haven't flown in 9 or 10 years; Skybus bought them from DHL in 2017. It also bought the N805SJ at the same time, but that one apparently made a round trip to VCV last year, which added to speculation that it may enter service. All three are still at Kingman.
 
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Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:35 pm

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Boeing757100 wrote:
On Skybus Cargo's Planespotters page, 3 DC-8s are marked as being withdrawn this month (April 2021).
Registrations
N802DH
N803DH
N805SJ

Where are the frames now and will they be flying again? Or are they just parts donors? :(


That just meant that the regstrations had expired. The first two haven't flown in 9 or 10 years; Skybus bought them from DHL in 2017. It also bought the N805SJ at the same time, but that one apparently made a round trip to VCV last year, which added to speculation that it may enter service. All three are still at Kingman.


Hope to see N805SJ return to service at some time in the near future. The VCV trip did include a repaint out of DHL colors and into the white/blue Skybus livery.


A recent pic from IGM on another site also shows that the engines are still attached, and it looks to be in good shape.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:15 pm

Another A321 for Amerijet? AJT81 is enroute from KEF to YHZ. Did the Titan 321 that was in Miami go home for a bit to get some TLC and is now returning, or is this a second ship coming over?

Edit: Looks like it is a second one. G-DHJH landed in PAP earlier today as AJT8133.

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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:29 pm

gdavis003 wrote:
MO11 wrote:
Boeing757100 wrote:
On Skybus Cargo's Planespotters page, 3 DC-8s are marked as being withdrawn this month (April 2021).
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N802DH
N803DH
N805SJ

Where are the frames now and will they be flying again? Or are they just parts donors? :(


That just meant that the regstrations had expired. The first two haven't flown in 9 or 10 years; Skybus bought them from DHL in 2017. It also bought the N805SJ at the same time, but that one apparently made a round trip to VCV last year, which added to speculation that it may enter service. All three are still at Kingman.


Hope to see N805SJ return to service at some time in the near future. The VCV trip did include a repaint out of DHL colors and into the white/blue Skybus livery.


A recent pic from IGM on another site also shows that the engines are still attached, and it looks to be in good shape.



Yeah, I think it is pretty likely it will enter service. Why would they repaint it if its a parts donor? Also, the DC-8-70 only is slightly worse than a 767 in terms of fuel burn. It makes sense, as they have 2 other DC-8s.
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:35 pm

Was just about to post this. G-NIKO seems to be coming over to MIA from STN. So it looks like this will be the second Titan A321 doing Island routes for Amerijet. HOPEFULLY, the A321 won't be displacing the classic aircraft. If it does, however, I'm praying that it displaces the IFL 727s, which have been of marginal reliability, rather than our favorite DC8-73CF. The DC8, of course, holds 4 more full-sized (88x125) pallets than the A321 on the main deck.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:45 pm

wjcandee wrote:
Was just about to post this. G-NIKO seems to be coming over to MIA from STN. So it looks like this will be the second Titan A321 doing Island routes for Amerijet. HOPEFULLY, the A321 won't be displacing the classic aircraft. If it does, however, I'm praying that it displaces the IFL 727s, which have been of marginal reliability, rather than our favorite DC8-73CF. The DC8, of course, holds 4 more full-sized (88x125) pallets than the A321 on the main deck.




The DC-8-73 also has superb fuel burn, at least from an aircraft of its era. Like you said, it can also hold much more than an A321. I think it holds more than even a 757/767. What reason would the Amerijet 321 replace the Skybus DC-8s?
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:46 pm

Speaking of which...I'm wondering what's up with the A321 Precision Conversion. They have decided to do the future touch work at PEMCO in TPA. The work on the original was done at SFB.

But the FAA took the prototype (N322WS) on multiple flights from SFB ending on 2/26/21, and I haven't seen anything since. I wonder whether they'll get their STC soon, or whether there are issues to resolve still. I thought that ATSG/Precision was expecting it by the end of the 1st Q.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:52 pm

Boeing757100 wrote:
The DC-8-73 also has superb fuel burn, at least from an aircraft of its era. Like you said, it can also hold much more than an A321. I think it holds more than even a 757/767. What reason would the Amerijet 321 replace the Skybus DC-8s?


Amerijet wanting to use something "greener" or "newer" or whatever on its chartered lift. The 727s and the DC8 are all chartered by Amerijet to cover its lack of own-metal lift these days. I think the reliability problems mostly have come from the IFL 727s, which struggle to do more than one round-trip per day reliably. Someone posted that IFL has only one crew for each of its 2 planes, so if one is down, I guess they should be able to do at least 2 round-trips on the working one, and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. The DC8 did have one air-return a while back, but was back in business the next day. It's also doing trips with longer duration than the 727s are, although it did do a short hop over the weekend, perhaps subbing for a 727.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:00 pm

The 727s are very reliable. They only sit when the crews are resting or there is no work for them.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:15 pm

FlyMKG wrote:
The 727s are very reliable. They only sit when the crews are resting or there is no work for them.


I stand corrected. I thought I remembered numerous air-returns followed by them sitting, followed by fleeing to PTK for weeks of service before returning. But it's possible I'm misremembering or that what I remember isn't typical of their overall performance.

Hopefully, the extra charter lift is to free up an existing Amerijet aircraft to do more DHL business or USPS business.

I fear, however, that the reverse is true now that one of AJT's 767s is back from maintenance. Yesterday, OB-2059-P ran a brief round-trip to SDQ rather than to its usual recent destinations of MGA or PTY, and instead those 2 cities were covered differently and more-extensively: there was one 767 yesterday that ran MIA-PTY-MGA-MIA, and another that yesterday ran MIA-MGA-MIA as well as MIA-PTY-MIA.

Ruh-roh.

But we'll see. It was the weekend.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:45 am

CargoLogic Germany, Partner of AirBridge Cargo and Volga-Dnepr, is expecting to receive the first of three additional 737-400F "within 1 or two weeks". This will bring their fleet at their LEJ base to 6 737. https://www.cargoforwarder.eu/2021/04/0 ... ups-fleet/
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:19 pm

Fun recent photo from MIA: https://twitter.com/JustJettingThru/sta ... 2881608711

Our favorite DC-8, 2 727s and an AN-12 ready for their next loads.
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:24 pm

Yes, I'm asking this question. Please don't hate me...

How long will OB-2059-P fly? When spares run out? It already did have that problem with the flaps... Anyways, before anyone curses me or anything, I hope that she will fly for many years to come, but the question did hit me; when will it become too expensive to operate and how many spares are there?
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:11 pm

Well, looks like hardworking, recently-repainted and C-checked 904AR, a Sky Lease 744 factory-F which had been running hard and reliably, has hit a hiccup. It did an air-return to ORD the other day on the way to Halifax (presumably for a fish pickup). No biggie, no equipment, no need to dump fuel -- at least it seemed. But she sat at ORD. And now she's on her way to SBD, where they get worked on on this side of the Pacific. Here's hoping it's a quick repair and back in business.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:41 pm

Word is that 904 is being ferried to SBD for some post D check Mx to address a landing gear issue.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:00 am

Sorry, I meant D-check. Was that issue related to the reason for the air return the other day? Or is it just coincidence? Thanks for the insight!

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