Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

aristoenigma · Mon May 17, 2021 2:44 am

After that detour I personally don't find that the identifying nomenclature on planespotters limited to type certificates, It is helpful and accepted on a.net to talk in terms of 200, 300 and 400 Combis. 200 Convertibles are extremely interesting and thanks to 747classic for posting the picture of the last 200C.at Iran Air, My question was why did planespotters call that 200C aircraft a Boeing 747-21AC(M)? Most of the 13 747-200Cs are identified on planespotters by a name ending in C. Maybe the later factory 200Cs adopted a different identification norm.
On the 200C I suppose a mixed use limits pax to the upper deck only since I doubt the main deck can have both.

747classic · Mon May 17, 2021 7:08 am

PH-MCF has been produced as a 747-21AC (2 = 200 series, 1A = Martin Air Boeing Customer code, C= convertible )
The -M designation for a combi is airline invented and not an official Boeing designation, internally factory built combi's are indicated as -200BC and are not listed in the 747 type certificate as a subtype.

PH-MCF has been delivered in full pax configuration and immediately leased to Qantas.
AFAIK with Martin Air the aircraft was operated frequently in the full pax mode during the summer holiday season, full cargo during the rest of the year.
Also the aircraft was sometimes used for VIP transport (Dutch Royal Family) at the upperdeck, with the main deck in full cargo configuration.
The aircraft was also leased to Qantas and Singapore in full freighter configuration.
I have no knowledge of a any Martin Air (MP) combi operation (with both pax and cargo on the maindeck)

See also : http://www.aussieairliners.org/b-747/ph-mcf/phmcf.html

TUGMASTER · Mon May 17, 2021 8:57 am

A 747-286BM I would say.

There are plenty of examples that were made with the 2xxBM suffix.

Edit:
BTW, the earlier two IR 747-286BM’s which have the SCD were never used as a combi. They have always had the full pax configuration. IR never took advantage of their useful order.

DLNZ · Mon May 17, 2021 11:13 pm

747classic wrote:
From the DC8 era : a not every day occurrence : two IL62MF aircraft of Rada Airlines (Belarus, Minsk) were seen at SNN at the same day (May 15th 2021)

Original uploaded by Donal Morrissey at twitter, see : https://twitter.com/birrlad/status/1393669759854686209
For more info, see : https://www.rada.aero/temp3/

Thanks so much for these, such mighty aircraft and one of my highlights of 2020 was when Rada acquired the second machine. For a while there they were trackable under their rego, but that dropped off, so nice to know they can be found another way.

From memory 450TR is a IL62-MGr, but 505TR is a straight IL62M. Keen to understand the differences if known.

On another note, may I take a moment to thank for you for your commentary on EP-ICD, I for one have learned a lot. So that machine along with Fars Air's EP-FAB being very late build 742s with the wing/body joins and other 744-era structural upgrades should be around for many years. Good acquisitions by the Iranians.

crownvic · Tue May 18, 2021 3:07 pm

I don't think I ever recall 6 AN124's plying the skies at the same time..

https://flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/A124

scbriml · Tue May 18, 2021 3:12 pm

DLNZ wrote:
Thanks so much for these, such mighty aircraft and one of my highlights of 2020 was when Rada acquired the second machine. For a while there they were trackable under their rego, but that dropped off, so nice to know they can be found another way.

From memory 450TR is a IL62-MGr, but 505TR is a straight IL62M. Keen to understand the differences if known.

Both of Rada’s Il-62s are the MGr version, which is a converted freighter (only three converted).

EW-505TR flew SNN-LCA today and I managed to catch it overhead. Best sighting of the year so far!

dtw9 · Tue May 18, 2021 3:18 pm

These are the 6 MD-88’s that are now registered to USAJet

N912DE
N913DL
N966DL
N969DL
N972DL
N978DL

Does this match the 6 that are at KDHN for conversion?

TUGMASTER · Tue May 18, 2021 3:20 pm

crownvic wrote:
I don't think I ever recall 6 AN124's plying the skies at the same time..

https://flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/A124

Theres actually 7 airborne right now
82007-8-47-72-74-77-78

Amazing..

gdavis003 · Tue May 18, 2021 3:57 pm

dtw9 wrote:
These are the 6 MD-88’s that are now registered to USAJet

N912DE
N913DL
N966DL
N969DL
N972DL
N978DL

Does this match the 6 that are at KDHN for conversion?

The ones at DHN currently are: N966DL, N969DL, N971DL, N972DL, N976DL, and N978DL. Looks like of the FAA registered ones, N912DE and N913DL are the only 2 at BYH still. Will be keeping an eye to see if N971DL are N976DL get registered as well, although I’m not sure if it’s much of an indication of anything at the moment. FWIW, those are the first 6 that were purchased, I believe. Here’s my list of the 12, which I think is in order of purchase

N969DL at DHN, FAA registered
N972DL at DHN, FAA registered
N966DL at DHN, FAA registered
N978DL at DHN, FAA registered
N912DE at BYH, FAA registered
N913DL at BYH, FAA registered
N971DL at DHN
N915DE at BYH
N976DL at DHN
N916DL at BYH
N959DL at BYH since 2019
N970DL at BYH

mcg · Tue May 18, 2021 4:02 pm

TUGMASTER wrote:
crownvic wrote:
I don't think I ever recall 6 AN124's plying the skies at the same time..

https://flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/A124

Theres actually 7 airborne right now
82007-8-47-72-74-77-78

Amazing..

One can't help but wonder what large, heavy, freight needs to be moved by air from Gostomel Ukraine to Detroit.

jbs2886 · Tue May 18, 2021 4:07 pm

mcg wrote:
TUGMASTER wrote:
crownvic wrote:
I don't think I ever recall 6 AN124's plying the skies at the same time..

https://flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/A124

Theres actually 7 airborne right now
82007-8-47-72-74-77-78

Amazing..

One can't help but wonder what large, heavy, freight needs to be moved by air from Gostomel Ukraine to Detroit.

Auto manufacturing equipment?

MD80MKE · Tue May 18, 2021 4:49 pm

The A321PCF prototype N322WS is currently en route to PSM with a Jet Test callsign. Anyone know what it's for? Preparation for delivery?
https://www.flightradar24.com/JTN10/27c0944f

MO11 · Tue May 18, 2021 5:15 pm

gdavis003 wrote:
N969DL at DHN, FAA registered
N972DL at DHN, FAA registered
N966DL at DHN, FAA registered
N978DL at DHN, FAA registered
N912DE at BYH, FAA registered
N913DL at BYH, FAA registered
N971DL at DHN
N915DE at BYH
N976DL at DHN
N916DL at BYH
N959DL at BYH since 2019
N970DL at BYH

Spacepope · Tue May 18, 2021 7:16 pm

MD80MKE wrote:
The A321PCF prototype N322WS is currently en route to PSM with a Jet Test callsign. Anyone know what it's for? Preparation for delivery?
https://www.flightradar24.com/JTN10/27c0944f

According to ths: https://www.aircargonews.net/airlines/f ... onversion/

It's headed for Smartlynx Malta.

wjcandee · Wed May 19, 2021 2:00 am

Spacepope wrote:
MD80MKE wrote:
The A321PCF prototype N322WS is currently en route to PSM

It's headed for Smartlynx Malta.

Apparently for ACMI service for DHL by that airline.

LH982 · Wed May 19, 2021 5:54 am

wjcandee wrote:
Spacepope wrote:
MD80MKE wrote:
The A321PCF prototype N322WS is currently en route to PSM

It's headed for Smartlynx Malta.

Apparently for ACMI service for DHL by that airline.

Routed via Keflavik, and now on the ground in Montpellier

aristoenigma · Wed May 19, 2021 8:41 pm

747classic wrote:
PH-MCF has been produced as a 747-21AC (2 = 200 series, 1A = Martin Air Boeing Customer code, C= convertible )
The -M designation for a combi is airline invented and not an official Boeing designation, internally factory built combi's are indicated as -200BC and are not listed in the 747 type certificate as a subtype.

PH-MCF has been delivered in full pax configuration and immediately leased to Qantas.
AFAIK with Martin Air the aircraft was operated frequently in the full pax mode during the summer holiday season, full cargo during the rest of the year.
Also the aircraft was sometimes used for VIP transport (Dutch Royal Family) at the upperdeck, with the main deck in full cargo configuration.
The aircraft was also leased to Qantas and Singapore in full freighter configuration.
I have no knowledge of a any Martin Air (MP) combi operation (with both pax and cargo on the maindeck)

See also : http://www.aussieairliners.org/b-747/ph-mcf/phmcf.html

Thanks for the info 747classic. In full pax mode would PH-MCF and other 200Cs have had a main deck appearance undistinguishable from a regular PAX 747-200s? Did the cargo floors get covered up nicely like ice hockey arenas often do preparing for rock concerts? Lastly I wonder why the very interesting 200C was not loved by customers (only 13 built) and why the convertible cargo concept was not further developed as a 300 and 400.. The 200M (78 built), 300M (21 built) and 400M combi (61 built) were way more preferred by customers for some reason.

gdavis003 · Thu May 20, 2021 2:27 am

Great to see this here at BHM tonight. Of course, it will all take place while asleep, but 4 auto parts flights are coming in from QRO/SLP tonight with the usual stop in LRD. A Berry E120 Brasilia and an Aeronaves Metroliner are en route, and USA Jet has a 727 and an MD83 scheduled for tonight, although it looks like the 727 will likely be a DC-9-15, as the 727 is now en route YIP-CNO. Quite the lineup. Looks like there is an immediate need for supplies at the Mercedes plant in Vance, or maybe the Honda plant in Lincoln. The TCL flights are always for Mercedes (none tonight), and the ANB/ASN flights (none tonight, although Air Horse One dropped into ANB the other day, which seems to be on cargo and not horse duty even with the Preakness last weekend, must have had a sub) are always for Honda in Lincoln. Must be neat to do an approach into ASN, as the airport sits right next to Talladega Superspeedway, so you probably get a great view of the track and the grandstand on the approach. Good ole' Ricky Bobby.

Spacepope · Thu May 20, 2021 1:38 pm

Some varied movement on the freighter fleets this week.

Our former Asiana 744F (converted) HL 7414 that we recently saw getting engines hung on her has been officially registered to Western Global as N452SN.

As expected, SF is taking former Rouge 763 ln 765 for conversion and ferrying it from storage/mx in SNN to QPG.

Cargologic has taken a 734F apparently straight out of conversion at YLW, to be registered D-ACLX (LN 2874)

The parade of 738s headed to conversion continues as well, with line number up to the 2200s seen.

Of course we saw the first delivery of the A321PCF to Smartlynx. Another A321 ( ln 1199) was registered to Lufthansa Technik at XSP before it heads into the chop shop for conversion. Other than those two it's still very quiet on the airbus conversion front.

Source: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=1

GARUDAROD · Thu May 20, 2021 1:59 pm

Aerotranscargo NL files for bankruptcy
https://theloadstar.com/dutch-freighter ... -bankrupt/

wjcandee · Thu May 20, 2021 8:30 pm

GARUDAROD wrote:
Aerotranscargo NL files for bankruptcy
https://theloadstar.com/dutch-freighter ... -bankrupt/

Sounds like something fell through on that part and they need to get out of any commitments they made in connection with it. The parent seems still to be running.

CX747 · Fri May 21, 2021 12:57 am

wjcandee wrote:
GARUDAROD wrote:
Aerotranscargo NL files for bankruptcy
https://theloadstar.com/dutch-freighter ... -bankrupt/

Sounds like something fell through on that part and they need to get out of any commitments they made in connection with it. The parent seems still to be running.

Shame the Netherlands idea didn't pan out. Thought that might be too much of a stretch. I believe an article I read said the company would attempt to gain their EU AOC through a base in another country. I personally vote to base it in Zurich, heck of an airport and well, the beauty of Switzerland.

dtw9 · Fri May 21, 2021 1:23 am

MO11 wrote:
gdavis003 wrote:
N969DL at DHN, FAA registered
N972DL at DHN, FAA registered
N966DL at DHN, FAA registered
N978DL at DHN, FAA registered
N912DE at BYH, FAA registered
N913DL at BYH, FAA registered
N971DL at DHN
N915DE at BYH
N976DL at DHN
N916DL at BYH
N959DL at BYH since 2019
N970DL at BYH

N913DL bought Feb10
N978DL bought Feb10
N912DE bought Feb10
N972DL bought Feb26
N966DL bought Mar8
N969DL bought Mar12
N971DL bought Mar29
N976DL bought Apr6
N915DE bought Apr6
N959DL bought Apr16
N970DL bought Apr16
N916DL bought Apr16
N912DL bought Apr23
N903DE bought Apr23
N917DL bought Apr30

N978DL will become N832US
N912DE will become N846US
N913DL will become N845US

JRadier · Fri May 21, 2021 9:29 am

CX747 wrote:
I personally vote to base it in Zurich, heck of an airport and well, the beauty of Switzerland.

And of course almost no logistical infrastructure to speak of

wjcandee · Fri May 21, 2021 2:07 pm

JRadier wrote:
CX747 wrote:
I personally vote to base it in Zurich, heck of an airport and well, the beauty of Switzerland.

And of course almost no logistical infrastructure to speak of

I thought that Zurich had a significant cargo operation -- just all centralized in one place.

CALMSP · Fri May 21, 2021 2:48 pm

JRadier wrote:
CX747 wrote:
I personally vote to base it in Zurich, heck of an airport and well, the beauty of Switzerland.

And of course almost no logistical infrastructure to speak of

.....and the ban on trucks for Sundays and holidays, which cuts transport opportunities.

VCVSpotter · Fri May 21, 2021 3:58 pm

MIAT Mongolian 767-300ER N564WW filed GYR-VCV 11AM - 11:51AM. Likely the same reason N566WW ferried to VCV the other week.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N564WW

MO11 · Fri May 21, 2021 6:50 pm

VCVSpotter wrote:
MIAT Mongolian 767-300ER N564WW filed GYR-VCV 11AM - 11:51AM. Likely the same reason N566WW ferried to VCV the other week.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N564WW

Yes, also sold to Northwest Aviation Leasing LLC yesterday.

CX747 · Sat May 22, 2021 12:42 pm

wjcandee wrote:
JRadier wrote:
CX747 wrote:
I personally vote to base it in Zurich, heck of an airport and well, the beauty of Switzerland.

And of course almost no logistical infrastructure to speak of

I thought that Zurich had a significant cargo operation -- just all centralized in one place.

There is indeed a cargo operation at ZRH. I will say, my desire for ZRH was more for the beauty during the approach than anything else. There is a ban on vehicle movement. So, if we had to pick, as a group, a base for 2 747s to perform cargo operations out of Europe, where are we headed?

CX747 · Tue May 25, 2021 2:46 am

Looks like ATSG's CAM will be leasing 4 additional 767-300Fs to DHL. Cow bell just never gets old. The jets were reported to already be owned by CAM but will be newly converted tails.

Does anyone have a count of new and converted 767s delivered over the past year? Would be interesting to see where that stacks against the other widebodies.

wjcandee · Tue May 25, 2021 3:01 am

I have a list of all the CAM ones delivered this year and last, to all customers.

I did a little rundown of CAM's current situation over on the not-as-active-as-here DHL Network and Fleet 2021 thread.

Without duplicating that, I can say that, of the potential conversions, there's one unassigned CAM 763 (at least on my spreadsheet) coming back from TLV within the next 30-45 days, and another unassigned one that went to TLV on 5/4, so November-ish. Then there are the two ex-ANA ones at ILN getting ready to go over to TLV. That makes 4. However, because the ex-ANA ones are FADEC, it may be that different feedstock is used for the DHL order, depending on what carrier they're going to for DHL CMI operation.

I posited that if it's going to get done this year, whatever frames are going over need to go soon, especially if they're not among the ones I just mentioned.

In the analyst call, CAM basically said that if somebody were to start today and say, "I think I want to lease a converted 767-300," without having had any preliminary work done with/by CAM before now, they're probably looking at -- I think they said -- mid/late 2023 for delivery. I'm guessing that if certain existing customers needed an airplane, heaven and earth could be moved and that timeframe accellerated. But that gives you an idea of the supply/demand situation at present. The key is that CAM exclusively uses IAI, and IAI makes plenty of slots available for CAM, so they can seat another person at the table if they have to.

CALMSP · Tue May 25, 2021 12:56 pm

CX747 wrote:
wjcandee wrote:
JRadier wrote:
And of course almost no logistical infrastructure to speak of

I thought that Zurich had a significant cargo operation -- just all centralized in one place.

There is indeed a cargo operation at ZRH. I will say, my desire for ZRH was more for the beauty during the approach than anything else. There is a ban on vehicle movement. So, if we had to pick, as a group, a base for 2 747s to perform cargo operations out of Europe, where are we headed?

you head to LGG which has almost 0 limitations.

aristoenigma · Wed May 26, 2021 3:30 am

aristoenigma wrote:
200 Convertibles are extremely interesting and thanks to 747classic for posting the picture of the last 200C.at Iran Air, My question was why did planespotters call that 200C aircraft a Boeing 747-21AC(M)? Most of the 13 747-200Cs are identified on planespotters by a name ending in C. Maybe the later factory 200Cs adopted a different identification norm.
On the 200C I suppose a mixed use limits pax to the upper deck only since I doubt the main deck can have both.

FWIW planespotters has very kindly reviewed the nomenclature of the thirteeen 747-200C convertibles and went ahead and modified them all to end in C without the (M).
They are real pros at planespotters.

TUGMASTER · Wed May 26, 2021 8:08 am

That’s because the 13 ARE convertibles, and not M’s ( combis).

dtw9 · Wed May 26, 2021 10:30 pm

USAJet MD-88 N970DL flew KBYH-KYIP this afternoon.

gdavis003 · Wed May 26, 2021 10:58 pm

dtw9 wrote:
USAJet MD-88 N970DL flew KBYH-KYIP this afternoon.

Guess N970DL is destined for parts. We'll see what happens with the others not at DHN, presumably they head to YIP for parts eventually

aristoenigma · Thu May 27, 2021 2:01 am

[quote="747classic"]PH-MCF has been produced as a 747-21AC (2 = 200 series, 1A = Martin Air Boeing Customer code, C= convertible )
The -M designation for a combi is airline invented and not an official Boeing designation, internally factory built combi's are indicated as -200BC and are not listed in the 747 type certificate as a subtype./quote]

So the popular Combi was not an official subtype of the 747-200B but rather a modification of the 747-200B (similarly for the 747-300 or the 747-400). Airlines and planespotters added the M to easily identify aircraft with the Combi modifications. If internally Boeing called the factory 200B Combi the 747-200BC how did Boeing avoid confusion when internally referring to the 200B convertibles. .

MO11 · Thu May 27, 2021 2:52 am

aristoenigma wrote:
So the popular Combi was not an official subtype of the 747-200B but rather a modification of the 747-200B (similarly for the 747-300 or the 747-400). Airlines and planespotters added the M to easily identify aircraft with the Combi modifications. If internally Boeing called the factory 200B Combi the 747-200BC how did Boeing avoid confusion when internally referring to the 200B convertibles. .

"Internally", all Boeing cares about is the variable number, which directs you to the specifics of how an airplane was built.

Boeing757100 · Thu May 27, 2021 6:41 pm

Any news on N865F? I've heard a while back that it was being restored and is going to be a contract freighter this year

CX747 · Fri May 28, 2021 2:52 am

wjcandee wrote:
CX747 wrote:
3: Plans to expand the fleet via 757 & 767 acquisitions. We all know the 767 is just the hottest ticket in town. Wonder if Aersale's RR powered ex-AA 757s end up in the red, white and blue of Amerijet.

They misstate the number of 767s Amerijet currently has on-board, so I'm a little dubious about the numbers. But long-term, sure, it's nice to dream. The guys they brought in to run the place have something to prove and a buttload of connections.

But if it's true they're turning away ad-hoc business every day, they're not trying hard enough, because they aren't fully-utilizing what they already have. The Air Canada guy wants to move far away from moving his own freight so he can chase ACMI, which is a tough business if you're with a fickle mistress, which is who they're cozying up to right now. The four remaining "Terrible 2s" are going somewhere. How many of them AJT gets is unknown. I know 2 DHL 767s are going to ABX in Q3. It stand to reasen that they're among these aircraft, because, heck, that's where they came from. But I do notice that DHL has some 763s coming out of conversion in Q3, and they could well be going to ABX instead of the Terrible 2s. Everybody thinks Kalitta is the bright spot for DHL 763s right now, and maybe that's where the new conversions will go, but the reality is that the ABX guys have the best performance stats, and don't constantly bitch about how much it sucks to fly out-and-backs from CVG on mere Domestic DHL runs rather than glorious International 747 and 777 routes...ooooh! And maybe DHL has noticed.

As to the 757s, I don't think there's any question about that being where they're gonna come from. Everybody keeps claiming that the 757 is dead as a freighter, and that nobody is converting them anymore...until another batch of Precision Conversions is ordered and fulfilled. This has been happening over and over. I think the a.net myth about the demise of the 757 freighter comes from the fact that when FedEx was done receiving the batch it did, it said it had what it needed. But so what? The 738BCF really isn't a replacement, no matter how many times people claim that it is.

As we have seen. GECAS did a great job selling Amazon and others on the virtues of the 738BCF, no doubt about it, but those guys were highly-motivated to do so as they stared at a tidal wave of approaching 738 lease terminations and wanted to get out in front of that by fanning the flames of the conversion market. If the 738 wasn't a serviceable freighter, no amount of lipstick would help, but it is and it's reasonably fuel-efficient and it's available now. But it's not a 757 freighter, for a thousand reasons. Not to mention, as Amerijet has no doubt realized, that with the widespread popularity of the 763 Freighter, in many operations the cockpit commonality brings meaningful savings and reduces the barriers to the introduction of another type.

Following on the prior conversation, Amerijet is preparing for delivery of their first 757P2F. It is coming from Avocet, out of Sanford. First 757 for Amerijet and first P2F conversion for Avocet. Congrats to both on the upcoming delivery. Looks to be more 757P2F work coming out of Florida for Amerijet in the future.

Continuing on the 757 themed info DHL is changing up some of their operation. They will have a European focused operation with 757s. A UK based operation will focus on international hauling with 767s & 777s.

wjcandee · Fri May 28, 2021 4:17 am

CX747 wrote:

Following on the prior conversation, Amerijet is preparing for delivery of their first 757P2F. It is coming from Avocet, out of Sanford.

Yep. Precision used Avocet for the A321 Precision Conversions prototype, and they apparently did a good job, so it makes sense they'll be doing some non-ex-AA Precision Conversions on 757s. The ex-AA frames will likely be done by AerSale at the former AeroTurbine facility that AerSale now owns.

wjcandee · Fri May 28, 2021 6:56 am

So here's an interesting one: CAM's sole 767-200 PASSENGER aircraft, N712AX, which has been at ILN for over 4 years since it was rescued from someplace in Asia after sitting there for a year after being parked by Asian Air, is on the move! Off to KMAF (Midland, TX). I have no idea what's up with it. But some kind of progress, at least. 20-something-thousand cycles; 60-thousand something hours.

wjcandee · Sun May 30, 2021 11:24 am

OB-2059-P has flown to IGM. (Worried look, labored breathing.) Let's hope it's for an engine change or something, and not an indication of the end of its service for Amerijet...

747classic · Sun May 30, 2021 12:11 pm

The FedEx MD10 fleet seems to down to only 14 , only one MD10-10F remains active and 13 MD-10-30F's

The last active FedEx MD10-10F, N562FE, DFW, April 25th 2021

Aircraft data :
- Delivered as DC10-10 at 10 Feb 1978 to American Airlines (N126AA), L/N 247, MSN 46947
- Delivered to FedEx and converted to MD10-10F at 14 Mar 2003 (N562FE)
- Last recorded at 11/11/2020 : 99594 hrs / 35660cycles

Lilj4425 · Sun May 30, 2021 12:18 pm

Good article on all of the cargo going through GSP: https://gsabusiness.com/news/aerospace/80541/ March 2021 saw 15,605,346 pounds of cargo go through GSP. March 2020 saw 8,079,534 pounds for comparison.

CALMSP · Sun May 30, 2021 2:59 pm

Lilj4425 wrote:
Good article on all of the cargo going through GSP: https://gsabusiness.com/news/aerospace/80541/ March 2021 saw 15,605,346 pounds of cargo go through GSP. March 2020 saw 8,079,534 pounds for comparison.

it really has been a lot over the last year, it should continue to dip back down towards 1Q20 and earlier totals once more airlines bring jets back to scheduled pax service.

HPRamper · Sun May 30, 2021 6:10 pm

747classic wrote:
The FedEx MD10 fleet seems to down to only 14 , only one MD10-10F remains active and 13 MD-10-30F's

The last active FedEx MD10-10F, N562FE, DFW, April 25th 2021

Aircraft data :
- Delivered as DC10-10 at 10 Feb 1978 to American Airlines (N126AA), L/N 247, MSN 46947
- Delivered to FedEx and converted to MD10-10F at 14 Mar 2003 (N562FE)
- Last recorded at 11/11/2020 : 99594 hrs / 35660cycles

562 is scheduled for its flight to VCV this week. No 10-10s will remain in the fleet.

Spacepope · Sun May 30, 2021 6:31 pm

HPRamper wrote:
747classic wrote:
The FedEx MD10 fleet seems to down to only 14 , only one MD10-10F remains active and 13 MD-10-30F's

The last active FedEx MD10-10F, N562FE, DFW, April 25th 2021

Aircraft data :
- Delivered as DC10-10 at 10 Feb 1978 to American Airlines (N126AA), L/N 247, MSN 46947
- Delivered to FedEx and converted to MD10-10F at 14 Mar 2003 (N562FE)
- Last recorded at 11/11/2020 : 99594 hrs / 35660cycles

562 is scheduled for its flight to VCV this week. No 10-10s will remain in the fleet.

Adios CF6-6.

CX747 · Sun May 30, 2021 7:48 pm

Spacepope wrote:
HPRamper wrote:
747classic wrote:
The FedEx MD10 fleet seems to down to only 14 , only one MD10-10F remains active and 13 MD-10-30F's

The last active FedEx MD10-10F, N562FE, DFW, April 25th 2021

Aircraft data :
- Delivered as DC10-10 at 10 Feb 1978 to American Airlines (N126AA), L/N 247, MSN 46947
- Delivered to FedEx and converted to MD10-10F at 14 Mar 2003 (N562FE)
- Last recorded at 11/11/2020 : 99594 hrs / 35660cycles

562 is scheduled for its flight to VCV this week. No 10-10s will remain in the fleet.

Adios CF6-6.

Never been a McD guy but I will tip the cap to those workhorses. They were built like tanks and took a beating over the years. Compare this breed's longevity to something like the A340 and you can begin to see how certain "types" are just different than others.

CX747 · Sun May 30, 2021 7:58 pm

wjcandee wrote:
OB-2059-P has flown to IGM. (Worried look, labored breathing.) Let's hope it's for an engine change or something, and not an indication of the end of its service for Amerijet...

I don't remember sending a memo to Amerijet saying it was time to end DC-8F service. Did somebody else make that mistake?!?! I certainly hope not. The A321Fs have been plugging along via lease but permanent 757 fleet members are beginning to arrive soon. Could be the 757s Amerijet bought will have the DC-8F cooling its heels in the desert.

Wish I was a younger man, going through training back in AZ again. Would be a good time to grab a tail and head up to the IGM area of AZ to do some maneuvers and perform aerial reconnaissance of the Diesel 8 for the group here.

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