eightcone wrote:

gdavis003 wrote:

Here’s my current list of the aircraft stored at DHN, if anyone is interested. I am pretty sure that this is now updated after seeing eightcone’s pictures from today, but if there’s anything else, just let me know:

2-EZRA, B737-800, unknown livery, std at DHN 19 Nov 2021, due ?

OE-LMM, A320-200, Ultra Air livery, std at DHN 26 Oct 2021, due Ultra Air Colombia

N291CS, B737-800, possibly all-white, former Air Europa, std at DHN 26 Oct 2021 for paint, due ?

N23FF, B737-400, GetJet livery, std at DHN 11 Oct 2021, due Aeronaves TSM

2-GATE, B737-800, Thai Summer livery, std at DHN 9 Oct 2021, due ?

N858AM, B737-800, currently in Compass livery, std at DHN 30 Sep 2021 for paint, due Compass Air Cargo

N680BR, CRJ-200, Delta Connection livery, std at DHN 7 Sep 2021, due Aeronaves TSM

N616AJ, B737-800, SunExpress livery?, std at DHN 15 Aug 2021

N245GE, B737-800, possibly all-white, former Andalou Jet, std at DHN 14 Aug 2021, due ?

N290BR, B737-800, Ukraine International livery, std at DHN 1 Jul 2021, due ?

N251AU, B737-400, Flair old livery, std at DHN 28 Jun 2021, due Transair as N388TM

N539RL, B737-800, Regent Airways livery, std at DHN 12 Jun 2021, due ?

N684BR, CRJ-200, Delta Connection livery, std at DHN 17 May 2021, due Aeronaves TSM

N705BR, B737-800, Regent Airways livery, std at DHN 5 May 2021, due ?

N444HE, B737-300, former Jim Baroni, std at DHN ?

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I’ve been busy on some other things lately, but I did just notice that N782TW of Ameristar left BYH on November 5th and is back on the auto parts circuit now. N785TW is back at BYH and has been there for two weeks. 783 and 785 have been repainted, and I’m not sure about 782 and 784. Very unlikely that 782 has, given how long it was at BYH and when they stared repainting the fleet.

Also, Frontera Flight Holdings acquired N915CK, N916CK, and N917CK, former Kalitta Charters II DC-9s, all stored at Oscoda since late 2019. We’ll see if they’re just for parts, or if they’re going to get back into the air

Excellent, thank you. I would only add the mad dogs. N833US-N837US

Ah, yes! Knew I was missing something on that one. Have the USA Jet ones on a separate list and forgot to add that to this one.

MCOflyer wrote:

According to Wikipedia which I know is not a reliable source, it says that Aero Naves TSM has five Boeing 737 400 freighters, and three remaining MD 82 freighters on order. Interesting enough it says that it has a couple of DC 915 freighters on order as well as some DC 930 freighter on order.

I'm guessing they're pulling from planespotters, which has never really had their ducks in order when it comes to the Aeronaves fleet. They are right in the sense that Aeronaves has, on property, 4 737-400s and 1 737-300s that have cargo doors. Of these, the registrations are N328SP, N16AQ, N529TP, N73FF, and N102FF. N102FF was the only one that was not converted before Frontera purchased it, and it was delivered to SLW from DHN in October. None are in service for Aeronaves at the moment, and most do not even have new Mexican registrations yet.

Regarding the MDs, they have none that are in conversion at the moment. I'm guessing that they're pulling the number of three on order from planespotters, which lists 3 future MDs. However, these three are ex-AA MDs that are all for parts. N457AA at ROW for ten years, N493AA for five years, and N510AM at SLW for five years. Frontera has purchased, over the last 5-10 years, upwards of 20 ex-AA MDs, most of which are still at ROW, for parts. I doubt that many of these will be converted, if any

The DC-9s are a bit more mysterious. They've purchased a bunch of those as well, but I doubt any will be converted. A few are on property at SLW. These three ex-Kalitta II DC-9s only make me ask more questions about their future DC-9 plans.

wjcandee wrote:

MO11, our Oracle, I need some help.

ATSG 3Q press release, out tonight, says CAM has 16 aircraft awaiting or in conversion: 1 A321 (which we see sitting outside the Airborne hangar in TPA) and 15 767s.

I've got 13 767s as of end of September; wondering if you can tell me what I'm missing. I think I need two, but maybe there are more.

N399AN (finished conversion at TLV 10/1, and went into service later, so I think it counts in the 15). Now G-DHLC.
N398AN (was at TLV until 10/26). To be N257AZ.
N397AN (still at TLV). To be N251AZ.
N396AN (still at TLV).
N391CM (was JA606A from ANA). FADEC engines. (still at TLV)
N390CM (was JA604A from ANA). FADEC engines. (still at TLV)
N203CM (was C-GSCA). (at ILN 7/15-10/23/21, now at TLV)
N152DL (at ILN since 6/26/21)
N154DL (at ILN since 9/18/21)
N900UD (at ILN since 9/5/21) PW4060s.
N898CU (bought 7/1/21; at ILN since 10/7/21) PW4060s
N155DL (at MZJ)
N156DL (at SBD)

Thanks in advance!!

The 14th and 15th B767 could be C-FPCA and C-FTCA, which are in conversion at TLV according to planespotters.net. I assume that these are the 2 B767s that are part of the conversion and sale and leaseback deal between Air Canada and CAM, see https://www.aircargonews.net/airlines/a ... air-cargo/, and keep their Canadian registration because of this.

wjcandee wrote:

National's 744s:
919CA in HHN for 2 days.
952CA in the air.
702CA in the air on a Camber flight.
729CA flying military.
756CA broken in Jordan since 10/22.
952CA flying.

Are we sure 756CA is actually repairable?

She’s sustained some pretty substantial damage around some major structural components.

Also the logistics of the repair need to be taken into consideration given its relatively remote location in Jordan.

QF744ER wrote:

wjcandee wrote:

National's 744s:
919CA in HHN for 2 days.
952CA in the air.
702CA in the air on a Camber flight.
729CA flying military.
756CA broken in Jordan since 10/22.
952CA flying.

Are we sure 756CA is actually repairable?

She’s sustained some pretty substantial damage around some major structural components.

Also the logistics of the repair need to be taken into consideration given its relatively remote location in Jordan.

We don’t know if the damage is any more than cosmetic. If it’s like her sister ship earlier this year, watch for a ferry flight to Hahn for repairs.

Previously mentioned (can't see the posts now) news about China CAAC's ban on P2F operations to/within the country should be clarified to mean a ban on cargo in pax cabin/pfreighter operations. Effective January 1, 2022 such operations will be limited to the transport of medical supplies only.

Source link (in Chinese) including costrast of the policy with EASA's decision to continue permitting the practice until July 31, 2022: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/JkjSEk90MPKZNMSqZ92_mQ

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Thank you, Classicjets! Makes sense. Also makes sense that they're going to get through Peak before implementing it. I guess the mods deleted the previous posts.

wJcandee,
Mods usually interfere little in this thread, as “we” keep it very clean if you like, but I guess as no one could provide a link the the Chinese news re: cabin cargo ops, I guess they pulled the previous posts.
Thanks to Sean for providing a link.

TUGMASTER wrote:

wJcandee,
Mods usually interfere little in this thread, as “we” keep it very clean if you like, but I guess as no one could provide a link the the Chinese news re: cabin cargo ops, I guess they pulled the previous posts.
Thanks to Sean for providing a link.

Agreed. It wasn't a criticism of the mods. Given that the info turned out to be a misunderstanding, I have no issue with them cleaning that up.

N756CA, the National 747 that got damaged at Muwaffaq Air Base in Jordan about a month ago, is now in the air again! She's about to cross the German border heading north-west.

Anyone know the reg number of the WGA -11 that was stuck in PANC for a long time?

tofen wrote:

N756CA, the National 747 that got damaged at Muwaffaq Air Base in Jordan about a month ago, is now in the air again! She's about to cross the German border heading north-west.

Nice! She's descending near the German/Lux border, I'm thinking this was the Hahn flight for further mx.

Looking at Flightaware, it also looks like Kalitta is readying for peak. N745CK tagged home at OSC for about 36 hours before heading back to DHL duty. N709CK spent 5 days at OSC before heading off on a LAX-JFK roundtrip, and N782CK is up for the first time in a while on a shakedown flight out of Oscoda.

Looks like they have had quite a few 744s tag home base over the last week getting some TLC. Western Global should be taking notes.

Also quick note on the FAA SDR if you're looking for hours/cycles: They updated it. Slightly different look, easier to read, and the reports are now in chronological order! No more hunting through all in a date range for the most recent!

FlapOperator wrote:

Anyone know the reg number of the WGA -11 that was stuck in PANC for a long time?

You are truly an optimist, my friend! Many have sat there endlessly over the last few months!

But I'm just teasing. The one that is there right now, and has been for 9 days, is N546JN. Which is a little weird, since it had months of heavy maint at SHV, emerging in like August.

If you mean the one that several months ago was there for even longer than that, I can look back at my WGN walls of shame earlier in this thread.

In the meantime, N415JN did a flight ICN-ICN today. Looks like maybe a shakeout flight after being there 2 days, just from the profile. Maybe not an air return.

wjcandee wrote:

MO11, our Oracle, I need some help.

ATSG 3Q press release, out tonight, says CAM has 16 aircraft awaiting or in conversion: 1 A321 (which we see sitting outside the Airborne hangar in TPA) and 15 767s.

I've got 13 767s as of end of September; wondering if you can tell me what I'm missing. I think I need two, but maybe there are more.



Thanks in advance!!

I'm missed this earlier among the multiple photos. The only one I see missing is N255ER.

MO11 wrote:

wjcandee wrote:

MO11, our Oracle, I need some help.

ATSG 3Q press release, out tonight, says CAM has 16 aircraft awaiting or in conversion: 1 A321 (which we see sitting outside the Airborne hangar in TPA) and 15 767s.

I've got 13 767s as of end of September; wondering if you can tell me what I'm missing. I think I need two, but maybe there are more.



Thanks in advance!!

I'm missed this earlier among the multiple photos. The only one I see missing is N255ER.

THANK YOU!!!! Adding it to my list now.

FlapOperator wrote:

Anyone know the reg number of the WGA -11 that was stuck in PANC for a long time?

N411SN, diverted to ANC at August 27th and was ferried to SHV at October 15th and is still at SHV.
See : https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n411sn

wjcandee wrote:

FlapOperator wrote:

Anyone know the reg number of the WGA -11 that was stuck in PANC for a long time?

You are truly an optimist, my friend! Many have sat there endlessly over the last few months!

But I'm just teasing. The one that is there right now, and has been for 9 days, is N546JN. Which is a little weird, since it had months of heavy maint at SHV, emerging in like August.

If you mean the one that several months ago was there for even longer than that, I can look back at my WGN walls of shame earlier in this thread.

In the meantime, N415JN did a flight ICN-ICN today. Looks like maybe a shakeout flight after being there 2 days, just from the profile. Maybe not an air return.

I wonder if WGN have positioned an aircraft as an operational spare at ANC for a period of time? It looks like they have picked up some peak work for Brown, with both N415JN and N512JN doing some ops between SZX & SDF over the past week. It's speculation only, but if I were Brown I'd be asking WGN for some fairly concrete operational reliability metrics, and a redundancy like a spare machine at the halfway point might play a part in achieving that.

I've seen N781SN with all engines in situ and being towed around the ramp, so she might not be far away from joining her SHV colleagues. 747s 356 & 452 remain there under some sort of work. Surprised as they are at risk of missing peak.

I was thrilled with the report of 756CA being alive and ferrying to HHN, awesome. National have swapped out 936 from Brown duty over the weekend, replaced by 952. A couple of their machines were at SIN & KUL earlier this morning, which is new, and interesting.

DLNZ wrote:

I wonder if WGN have positioned an aircraft as an operational spare at ANC for a period of time?

ANOTHER OPTIMIST! I just love how participants in this thread are such positive people. Seriously. Makes my heart warm. I think your thoughts on this are excellent and well-reasoned. And if this were, say, ATI or GTI, I might say, "That's an interesting possibility!" But it's WGN, so, if I were a betting man, I would bet that she was broken. But we'll see!!

DLNZ wrote:

I've seen N781SN with all engines in situ and being towed around the ramp, so she might not be far away from joining her SHV colleagues.

Cool! Maybe we'll get lucky and see her fly soon!

DLNZ wrote:

747s 356 & 452 remain there under some sort of work. Surprised as they are at risk of missing peak.

Given that 452SN has just been renovated at a top MRO shop, hopefully it's just a matter of getting the paperwork in order and such and she'll be out soon. 356KD, we'll just have to see.

DLNZ wrote:

I was thrilled with the report of 756CA being alive and ferrying to HHN, awesome. National have swapped out 936 from Brown duty over the weekend, replaced by 952. A couple of their machines were at SIN & KUL earlier this morning, which is new, and interesting.

Good catches, all! And here's hoping that 756 will be back on the line, soon.

Also, speaking of National, if you haven't seen Sam Chui's (I know...) video of the National relief-supply mission he flew on this summer, it's pretty-spectacular. Flying into Kathmandu, Nepal, in a 747 (in this case N919CA) loaded with cargo is pretty-amazing. I wish he had given us more AirClips-style video of the approach, because it's incredible. Mountains all around, a 5.31-degree descent angle to MDA, followed at 3 percent, so you have a lot of kinetic energy to burn off at landing, put it in reverse the instant the autospoilers deploy on the ground, and Autobrakes 4 all the way. The National captain made it look easy. The Nepalese folks at the airport treated everyone like kings, and it was sweet to see the little gifts they gave the crew (and Sam!). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTSVglZH8bI Worth a few minutes.

Speaking of which...I kind of lost track of N570B and N27063. I thought they were going to end up at Aerotranscargo, but haven't seen anything more recently. Now would seem to be the time to have them in service!!

Who is the GSO-ONT-GSO flight numbered 710/711 being run for? Since June of 2020, I've seen four different airlines (three, if you count Aloha and Northern Air Cargo as one) operating it.

wjcandee wrote:

Speaking of which...I kind of lost track of N570B and N27063. I thought they were going to end up at Aerotranscargo, but haven't seen anything more recently. Now would seem to be the time to have them in service!!

Yes they have been gone a fair while now. N570B is nearing the end of it's fifth month at HHN, having arrived on 06/30 (listed as being leased to ATG), and N27063 has been with the hard working folks at GMF since 09/10, so she will probably miss peak altogether. Both are registered to Sky One FZE.

It got me thinking of ATG's activity in Romania, with what was HS-TGH, then ER-BBE now YR-FSA for Cargo-ROM. She doesn't appear to be flying, so I hope it's not another short lived JV for the earnest yet ragtag bunch at Aerotranscargo, like their proposed Dutch (or was it Belgian?) venture which folded before it began.

Another interesting one is Mesk Air's 9H-MSK, which is up & running, and after a couple of trips to tripoli and SHJ, has done a round trip to HKG and back to MST.

wjcandee wrote:

DLNZ wrote:

I wonder if WGN have positioned an aircraft as an operational spare at ANC for a period of time?

ANOTHER OPTIMIST! I just love how participants in this thread are such positive people. Seriously. Makes my heart warm. I think your thoughts on this are excellent and well-reasoned. And if this were, say, ATI or GTI, I might say, "That's an interesting possibility!" But it's WGN, so, if I were a betting man, I would bet that she was broken. But we'll see!!

Also, speaking of National, if you haven't seen Sam Chui's (I know...) video of the National relief-supply mission he flew on this summer, it's pretty-spectacular. Flying into Kathmandu, Nepal, in a 747 (in this case N919CA) loaded with cargo is pretty-amazing. I wish he had given us more AirClips-style video of the approach, because it's incredible. Mountains all around, a 5.31-degree descent angle to MDA, followed at 3 percent, so you have a lot of kinetic energy to burn off at landing, put it in reverse the instant the autospoilers deploy on the ground, and Autobrakes 4 all the way. The National captain made it look easy. The Nepalese folks at the airport treated everyone like kings, and it was sweet to see the little gifts they gave the crew (and Sam!). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTSVglZH8bI Worth a few minutes.

Ha, thank you. I have no connection any of them but I like seeing the little guys do well, and that includes WGN. I have seen the Sam Chui clips, goofy but good, in his own unique way..

MCOflyer wrote:

According to Wikipedia which I know is not a reliable source, it says that Aero Naves TSM has five Boeing 737 400 freighters, and three remaining MD 82 freighters on order. Interesting enough it says that it has a couple of DC 915 freighters on order as well as some DC 930 freighter on order.

If interested, this is TSM fleet, some might be active some other stored, if you have more info, would be awesome if you share:

550-0205 Cessna 550 XB-SGT PAX
550-0216 Cessna 550 XB-NXR PAX
560-0367 Cessna 560 Citation Ultra XB-OUZ PAX
257021/NA0214 BAe HS-125-700A XB-NVN PAX
AC-430 SA227AC Metro III XA-SUS
AT-434B SA227AC Metro III XA-USG
AC-487B SA227AC Metro III XA-UUL
AC-497 SA227AC Metro III XA-DCX
AC-503 SA227AC Metro III XA-EEE
AC-532 SA227AC Metro III XA-UKJ
AC-565B SA227AC Metro III XA-UNQ
AC-581 SA227AC Metro III XA-AFT
AC-595 SA227AC Metro III XA-URZ
AC-627B SA227AC Metro III XA-TYX
AC-628B SA227AC Metro III XA-SLW
AC-659B SA227AC Metro III XA-UUM
AC-687B SA227AC Metro III XA-PNG
AC-693B SA227AC Metro III XA-MIO
AC-717 SA227AC Metro III XA-UMW
AC-724 SA227AC Metro III XA-EGC
AC-704 SA227AC Metro III XA-UAL
AC-760B SA227AC Metro III XA-UOS
AC-761B SA227AC Metro III XA-USB
CC-842B SA227DC Metro III XB-MGD PAX
88 Convair 640-340DF XA-UJI
48 Convair 640-340DF XA-UMI
64 Convair 640-340DF XA-UTW
104 Convair 640-340DF XA-URL
463 Convair 640-440DF XA-???
220 Dash-8-102 XA-???
312 Dash-8-102A XA-???
7024 CRJ-100LR XB-DGD PAX
7085 CRJ-100LR (F) XA-SPO
7088 CRJ-100LR (F) XA-ESA
7143 CRJ-100ER XB-EGD PAX
7300 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-ADS
7304 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-VCX
7341 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-VCS
7347 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7356 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-VBF
7392 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-VAD
7484 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-TRQ
7594 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7601 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7679 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7680 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7691 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7692 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7708 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7720 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7723 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7787 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
45731 - 34 DC-9-15MC For PARTS?
45797 - 51 DC-9-15MC For PARTS?
47013 - 129 DC-9-33RC XA-???
47044 - 165 DC-9-15MC XA-UXP
47055 - 194 DC-9-15MC XA-TIG
47061 - 207 DC-9-15MC XA-UXR
47147 - 208 DC-9-32CF XA-UQT
47148 - 246 DC-9-32CF XA-URM
47193 - 311 DC-9-33RC XA-DHL
47194 - 324 DC-9-33RC XA-UOG
47355 - 452 DC-9-32CF XA-UUT
47409 - 497 DC-9-33CF XA-VBE
47384 - 543 DC-9-33CF XA-UZJ
47462 - 564 DC-9-33RC XA-UPS
47475 - 653 DC-9-C9A XA-???
49342 - 1337 MD-82SF XA-UTX
49348 - 1374 MD-83SF XA-???
49456 - 1393 MD-82SF XA-???
49663 - 1437 MD-82SF XA-UVG
49558 - 1451 MD-82SF XA-UXI
49562 - 1475 MD-82SF FOR PARTS???
49731 - 1566 MD-82SF FOR PARTS??
49737 - 1641 MD-82SF XA-???
49797 - 1650 MD-82SF XA-???
49804 - 1669 MD-82SF FOR PARTS???
49990 - 1770 MD-82SF XA-UZC
49941 - 1793 MD-83SF XA-UFO
53029 - 1814 MD-82SF XA-???
53083 - 1828 MD-82SF XA-???
53086 - 1840 MD-83SF XA-???
53137 - 1872 MD-83SF XA-???
49945 - 1889 MD-83SF XA-TSM
53158 - 1891 MD-82SF XA-???
49948 - 1905 MD-83SF XA-TBC
53255 - 1932 MD-83SF XA-???
53122 - 1984 MD-83SF XA-VDR
53287 - 2006 MD-83SF XA-UZI
53288 - 2011 MD-83SF XA-UZV
53289 - 2012 MD-83SF XA-UZX
53290 - 2013 MD-83SF XA-VDC
53292 - 2020 MD-83SF XA-VCU
53293 - 2021 MD-83SF XA-VCB
53217 - 2053 MD-82SF XA-VBG
23685 - 1357 B737-3Y0 (SF)
24332 - 1866 B737-4Q8 (SF)
24904 - 1988 B737-4Y0 (SF)
24912 - 2064 B737-4Y0 (SF)
25848 - 2379 B737-436 (SF)
27138 - 2436 B737-3Z0 (SF)
26529 - 2584 B737-4B6 (SF) XA-ADQ
26308 - 2665 B737-4Q8 (SF)
28150 - 2773 B737-476 (SF)
28151 - 2785 B737-476 (SF) XA-TIF
27630 - 2848 B737-48E (SF)
28723 - 2886 B737-46N (SF)

AFAIK, those 12 B737s will all be flown anytime...!! I don't know what CRJ's, Dc9-14s and MD8X have been bought for parts... N927L and N255AA were bought for parts and according to the following picture they have 3 more for spare parts but I don't have the regos:

https://www.airguide.info/mexicos-aeron ... 37-400sfs/

g77

Newark727 wrote:

Who is the GSO-ONT-GSO flight numbered 710/711 being run for? Since June of 2020, I've seen four different airlines (three, if you count Aloha and Northern Air Cargo as one) operating it.

USPS

ghost77 wrote:

MCOflyer wrote:

According to Wikipedia which I know is not a reliable source, it says that Aero Naves TSM has five Boeing 737 400 freighters, and three remaining MD 82 freighters on order. Interesting enough it says that it has a couple of DC 915 freighters on order as well as some DC 930 freighter on order.

If interested, this is TSM fleet, some might be active some other stored, if you have more info, would be awesome if you share:

550-0205 Cessna 550 XB-SGT PAX
550-0216 Cessna 550 XB-NXR PAX
560-0367 Cessna 560 Citation Ultra XB-OUZ PAX
257021/NA0214 BAe HS-125-700A XB-NVN PAX
AC-430 SA227AC Metro III XA-SUS
AT-434B SA227AC Metro III XA-USG
AC-487B SA227AC Metro III XA-UUL
AC-497 SA227AC Metro III XA-DCX
AC-503 SA227AC Metro III XA-EEE
AC-532 SA227AC Metro III XA-UKJ
AC-565B SA227AC Metro III XA-UNQ
AC-581 SA227AC Metro III XA-AFT
AC-595 SA227AC Metro III XA-URZ
AC-627B SA227AC Metro III XA-TYX
AC-628B SA227AC Metro III XA-SLW
AC-659B SA227AC Metro III XA-UUM
AC-687B SA227AC Metro III XA-PNG
AC-693B SA227AC Metro III XA-MIO
AC-717 SA227AC Metro III XA-UMW
AC-724 SA227AC Metro III XA-EGC
AC-704 SA227AC Metro III XA-UAL
AC-760B SA227AC Metro III XA-UOS
AC-761B SA227AC Metro III XA-USB
CC-842B SA227DC Metro III XB-MGD PAX
88 Convair 640-340DF XA-UJI
48 Convair 640-340DF XA-UMI
64 Convair 640-340DF XA-UTW
104 Convair 640-340DF XA-URL
463 Convair 640-440DF XA-???
220 Dash-8-102 XA-???
312 Dash-8-102A XA-???
7024 CRJ-100LR XB-DGD PAX
7085 CRJ-100LR (F) XA-SPO
7088 CRJ-100LR (F) XA-ESA
7143 CRJ-100ER XB-EGD PAX
7300 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-ADS
7304 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-VCX
7341 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-VCS
7347 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7356 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-VBF
7392 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-VAD
7484 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-TRQ
7594 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7601 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7679 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7680 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7691 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7692 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7708 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7720 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7723 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
7787 CRJ-200ER (F) XA-???
45731 - 34 DC-9-15MC For PARTS?
45797 - 51 DC-9-15MC For PARTS?
47013 - 129 DC-9-33RC XA-???
47044 - 165 DC-9-15MC XA-UXP
47055 - 194 DC-9-15MC XA-TIG
47061 - 207 DC-9-15MC XA-UXR
47147 - 208 DC-9-32CF XA-UQT
47148 - 246 DC-9-32CF XA-URM
47193 - 311 DC-9-33RC XA-DHL
47194 - 324 DC-9-33RC XA-UOG
47355 - 452 DC-9-32CF XA-UUT
47409 - 497 DC-9-33CF XA-VBE
47384 - 543 DC-9-33CF XA-UZJ
47462 - 564 DC-9-33RC XA-UPS
47475 - 653 DC-9-C9A XA-???
49342 - 1337 MD-82SF XA-UTX
49348 - 1374 MD-83SF XA-???
49456 - 1393 MD-82SF XA-???
49663 - 1437 MD-82SF XA-UVG
49558 - 1451 MD-82SF XA-UXI
49562 - 1475 MD-82SF FOR PARTS???
49731 - 1566 MD-82SF FOR PARTS??
49737 - 1641 MD-82SF XA-???
49797 - 1650 MD-82SF XA-???
49804 - 1669 MD-82SF FOR PARTS???
49990 - 1770 MD-82SF XA-UZC
49941 - 1793 MD-83SF XA-UFO
53029 - 1814 MD-82SF XA-???
53083 - 1828 MD-82SF XA-???
53086 - 1840 MD-83SF XA-???
53137 - 1872 MD-83SF XA-???
49945 - 1889 MD-83SF XA-TSM
53158 - 1891 MD-82SF XA-???
49948 - 1905 MD-83SF XA-TBC
53255 - 1932 MD-83SF XA-???
53122 - 1984 MD-83SF XA-VDR
53287 - 2006 MD-83SF XA-UZI
53288 - 2011 MD-83SF XA-UZV
53289 - 2012 MD-83SF XA-UZX
53290 - 2013 MD-83SF XA-VDC
53292 - 2020 MD-83SF XA-VCU
53293 - 2021 MD-83SF XA-VCB
53217 - 2053 MD-82SF XA-VBG
23685 - 1357 B737-3Y0 (SF)
24332 - 1866 B737-4Q8 (SF)
24904 - 1988 B737-4Y0 (SF)
24912 - 2064 B737-4Y0 (SF)
25848 - 2379 B737-436 (SF)
27138 - 2436 B737-3Z0 (SF)
26529 - 2584 B737-4B6 (SF) XA-ADQ
26308 - 2665 B737-4Q8 (SF)
28150 - 2773 B737-476 (SF)
28151 - 2785 B737-476 (SF) XA-TIF
27630 - 2848 B737-48E (SF)
28723 - 2886 B737-46N (SF)

AFAIK, those 12 B737s will all be flown anytime...!! I don't know what CRJ's, Dc9-14s and MD8X have been bought for parts... N927L and N255AA were bought for parts and according to the following picture they have 3 more for spare parts but I don't have the regos:

https://www.airguide.info/mexicos-aeron ... 37-400sfs/

g77

Huge thanks! Quite the comprehensive list. I would imagine that quite a few of the CRJ's, DC-9s and MD80s are being used for parts. Especially on the MD front, many of those have been out in ROW for quite some time, and Frontera acquired them a long time back, which is why I'm guessing they're destined for parts. Same probably goes for a lot of the CRJ-200s, similar situation except that they're mostly DL Connection ones out at IGM. The DC-9 situation is a bit puzzling, as they've bought up a few and brought them down to SLW. Hope to see these 737s in the air soon. A few were purchased that had already been converted (including XA-ADQ and XA-TIF), and they've now finished up with N102FF's conversion. So, I would guess that those are the first three to take to the skies in Aeronaves colors

DLNZ wrote:

I like seeing the little guys do well, and that includes WGN.

Me, too.

DLNZ wrote:

It got me thinking of ATG's activity in Romania, with what was HS-TGH, then ER-BBE now YR-FSA for Cargo-ROM. She doesn't appear to be flying, so I hope it's not another short lived JV for the earnest yet ragtag bunch at Aerotranscargo, like their proposed Dutch (or was it Belgian?) venture which folded before it began.

YR-FSA is on the move out of LGG right now, flight RCR 6010:

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/yr-fsa

N572UP, AOG since October 27th at ICN seems to be on her wheels again, however she will need some TLC, seen the hydraulic fluid leak repair marks at the tail.(from the rudder actuators)
Hopefully she will join the peak soon !

N572UP, ICN, November 19th 2021, ( An edited high-res version of a 1.2mile-distance shot of N572UP and HL7626.)


Original uploaded by Dongone Seo at twitter, see : https://twitter.com/spotter_dongone/sta ... 6468904960

Newark727 wrote:

Who is the GSO-ONT-GSO flight numbered 710/711 being run for? Since June of 2020, I've seen four different airlines (three, if you count Aloha and Northern Air Cargo as one) operating it.

USPS and Amazon shared the last I heard.

Pantonov22 wrote:

DLNZ wrote:

It got me thinking of ATG's activity in Romania, with what was HS-TGH, then ER-BBE now YR-FSA for Cargo-ROM. She doesn't appear to be flying, so I hope it's not another short lived JV for the earnest yet ragtag bunch at Aerotranscargo, like their proposed Dutch (or was it Belgian?) venture which folded before it began.

YR-FSA is on the move out of LGG right now, flight RCR 6010:

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/yr-fsa

So she is, thanks. Perhaps my willing spurred her into action.. let’s see what she gets up to over the coming days.

FlapOperator wrote:

CX747 wrote:

On the Purple side, it is frustrating to see unforced errors in fleet planning. As you stated, these issues were not unknown to management. The MD-11 Fleet Personnel had better be looked at pretty hard, because this could completely be all on them. It could also be, MD-11s are hard to bring back and find parts for, no matter if you are FEDEX or WGN!!! Truly hope Purple calls upon the 777-XF. The ability in a few years to have a massive homogenous 767F fleet, and one pilot base for 50 777Fs and plug & play 777XFs really looks good.

On the Fedex side, I don't know if that's completely fair...In January 2020, the plan was the MD-10 sundown, the A300 starting to sundown with the 310s parked, and the MD-11 on a glidepath to retirement.

Now, my friends are saying that new hires are being dumped into the A300 and MD11 fleets as fast as the LCAs can train them, while the 757/767/777 continue to face the double demands of both growth and attrition. The MD-10 will be sustained with a minimum fleet to December 2022 (with the knock-on requirements of sustaining sims/manuals/maintenance/tracking/etc.) The MD-11 is in the fleet plan basically indefinitely now (2030s.) Oh, and a that's a turn-around, and aircraft were purchased/woken up from the desert, so the fleet size, expected to dwindle, has increased with a concurrent demand signal for more bodies.

Honestly, I think Fedex is going to a five fleet type airline for a long time, or even more as a 757 replacement needs a hard look. As far as bases, I don't think an ONT, DXB, KIX or CRK would be surprising. To support a NB/767/777 fleet plan, there would have to be significant system form change, with lots more concrete poured nearly everywhere and diversification away from MEM as the center of the universe.

Why can't they just keep the MD-10-30s for a lot longer?

UA444 wrote:

FlapOperator wrote:

CX747 wrote:

On the Purple side, it is frustrating to see unforced errors in fleet planning. As you stated, these issues were not unknown to management. The MD-11 Fleet Personnel had better be looked at pretty hard, because this could completely be all on them. It could also be, MD-11s are hard to bring back and find parts for, no matter if you are FEDEX or WGN!!! Truly hope Purple calls upon the 777-XF. The ability in a few years to have a massive homogenous 767F fleet, and one pilot base for 50 777Fs and plug & play 777XFs really looks good.

On the Fedex side, I don't know if that's completely fair...In January 2020, the plan was the MD-10 sundown, the A300 starting to sundown with the 310s parked, and the MD-11 on a glidepath to retirement.

Now, my friends are saying that new hires are being dumped into the A300 and MD11 fleets as fast as the LCAs can train them, while the 757/767/777 continue to face the double demands of both growth and attrition. The MD-10 will be sustained with a minimum fleet to December 2022 (with the knock-on requirements of sustaining sims/manuals/maintenance/tracking/etc.) The MD-11 is in the fleet plan basically indefinitely now (2030s.) Oh, and a that's a turn-around, and aircraft were purchased/woken up from the desert, so the fleet size, expected to dwindle, has increased with a concurrent demand signal for more bodies.

Honestly, I think Fedex is going to a five fleet type airline for a long time, or even more as a 757 replacement needs a hard look. As far as bases, I don't think an ONT, DXB, KIX or CRK would be surprising. To support a NB/767/777 fleet plan, there would have to be significant system form change, with lots more concrete poured nearly everywhere and diversification away from MEM as the center of the universe.

Why can't they just keep the MD-10-30s for a lot longer?

Why would they? The DC/MD10 is dead... What is there is no gain from keeping it in fleet, or is there? Keep them A300s way younger and somehow modern..

Tomorrow (Nov 23th) the next MD-10-30F, N320FE, will be sent to VCV (storage ?),because a C-check is due.
A flightplan has been filed already : LAX-VCV with callsign FX9032, see :
See reply 596 & 598 : viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1456149&start=550

Seems like Brown is beginning to add capacity already to regular domestic runs. 5X1356 (SDF-BHM) and 5X712 (SDF-HSV-SHV) we’re upgauged from a 767 and 757 to an MD-11 and an A300, respectively, for tonight

Eiszeit wrote:

UA444 wrote:

FlapOperator wrote:

On the Fedex side, I don't know if that's completely fair...In January 2020, the plan was the MD-10 sundown, the A300 starting to sundown with the 310s parked, and the MD-11 on a glidepath to retirement.

Now, my friends are saying that new hires are being dumped into the A300 and MD11 fleets as fast as the LCAs can train them, while the 757/767/777 continue to face the double demands of both growth and attrition. The MD-10 will be sustained with a minimum fleet to December 2022 (with the knock-on requirements of sustaining sims/manuals/maintenance/tracking/etc.) The MD-11 is in the fleet plan basically indefinitely now (2030s.) Oh, and a that's a turn-around, and aircraft were purchased/woken up from the desert, so the fleet size, expected to dwindle, has increased with a concurrent demand signal for more bodies.

Honestly, I think Fedex is going to a five fleet type airline for a long time, or even more as a 757 replacement needs a hard look. As far as bases, I don't think an ONT, DXB, KIX or CRK would be surprising. To support a NB/767/777 fleet plan, there would have to be significant system form change, with lots more concrete poured nearly everywhere and diversification away from MEM as the center of the universe.

Why can't they just keep the MD-10-30s for a lot longer?

Why would they? The DC/MD10 is dead... What is there is no gain from keeping it in fleet, or is there? Keep them A300s way younger and somehow modern..

As long as they can be supported parts wise, I think Fedex will fly both the A300 (because it's the only widebody capable of airports like BUR and SNA, thus the only aircraft capable of backfilling any other aircraft in the fleet and there are like 60+ of them) and the MD-10 (because it's an economical domestic load hauler that other than parts and I believe simulators, is integrated nearly wholly into the 55 ship MD-11 fleet.)

In the past the FAA hasn't liked trickle to zero fleet sundown plans. It is believed to be stressful to have a small handful of non- standard aircraft. If there are 10 or so 10-30s flying, that's 20% of the domestic -11/-10 fleet.

I just have a hard time believing parts aren't a considerable issue for the MD-10. Also interesting to note is the lack of HUD/enhanced vision on the -300 and no stated plan to install either or a new flight deck on the -300.

gdavis003 wrote:

Hope to see these 737s in the air soon. A few were purchased that had already been converted (including XA-ADQ and XA-TIF), and they've now finished up with N102FF's conversion. So, I would guess that those are the first three to take to the skies in Aeronaves colors

AFAIK, ADQ and TIF are already up in the air flying revenue. Sure, ASAP, they'll add more 737s. I bet too many others are or will be used for parts but they're putting in the air most of what they've bought. Maybe at the end they just figure out that having MD's in the long run wouldn't be easy to keep them in the air and inmediatly went for 737s. Lets see what's TSM's next adventure type to fly!

g77

Has anyone heard anything on the air Wisconsin CRJ freighter ops? As well as the elite airways CRJ freighter ops? Also, doesn't DHL rotate some of their new fleet into MLB For upgrades?

gdavis003 wrote:

Huge thanks! Quite the comprehensive list. I would imagine that quite a few of the CRJ's, DC-9s and MD80s are being used for parts.

They've just told me, these are the MD82s bought for parts:

49162 - 1110 MD-82 N214AA
49173 - 1114 MD-82 N223AA
49287 - 1176 MD-82 N255AA
49294 - 1213 MD-82 N278AA
49267 - 1239 MD-82 N953U

So, sooner or later, we might be surprised and see all of the above converted and making it a strong fleet of 28 active MD80s.

g77

Fleet Movement November 23, 2021
1. Boeing 737 -883(F) 30467 634 EC- Swiftair Re-delivery 20-21nov21 TSN-ICN-NQZ-MAD, DHL cs, N-reg ex N738TK
2. Boeing 737 -883 32278 1169 N278FL iAero Airways Ferried 18-20nov21 ROW-ANC-PKC-TSN prior freighter conversion ex LN-RRK
3. Boeing 737 -8K5 32907 1117 OE-LDZ DCAL Leasing Registered 16nov21, parked at CDT ex OK-TVP
4. Boeing 737 -8AS 33552 1371 EI-DAR Ryanair Ferried 19nov21 PIK.QL prior freighter conversion
5. Boeing 737 -8EH(F) 34267 2311 9M- Kargo Express Delivery 19nov21 TNA-KUL, N-reg ex N248GE

6. Boeing 747 -4D7(F) 24458 769 YR-FSA Rom Cargo Airlines first in svc 22nov21 LGG-GYD ex ER-BBE

7. Boeing 757 -236(F) 29945 873 OE-LNF DHL Air Austria Re-registered 19nov21 at BUD on transfer ex G-DHKF

8. Boeing 767 -338(F) 25246 387 N569AZ Amazon Air Re-delivery 19nov21 MEX-CVG-ILN ex C-FOGT
9. Boeing 767 -323(F) 29605 748 N257AZ Air Transport International Ferried 20nov21 ILN-SBD, for paint ex N398AN
10. Boeing 767 -332 30573 788 N1608 Amazon Air Ferried 19nov21 VCV-MEX for freighter conversion, for Air Transport International as N607AZ
Source: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=4

ROM Cargo Airlines YR-FSA is formerly Aerotranscargo ER-BBE



N569AZ Amazon Air


N257AZ Air Transport International, seen here arriving at SBD on November 20, 2021

IMG_0459 by Michael Ing, on Flickr

747classic wrote:

N572UP, AOG since October 27th at ICN seems to be on her wheels again, however she will need some TLC, seen the hydraulic fluid leak repair marks at the tail.(from the rudder actuators)
Hopefully she will join the peak soon !

N572UP, ICN, November 19th 2021, ( An edited high-res version of a 1.2mile-distance shot of N572UP and HL7626.)


Original uploaded by Dongone Seo at twitter, see : https://twitter.com/spotter_dongone/sta ... 6468904960

Interestingly the repair marks seem to be not related to that incident. Pictures show her flying around like that since at least the beginning of September this year.

MCOflyer wrote:

Has anyone heard anything on the air Wisconsin CRJ freighter ops? As well as the elite airways CRJ freighter ops? Also, doesn't DHL rotate some of their new fleet into MLB For upgrades?

Air Wisconsin hasn't taken possession of the airplane yet. The Elite airplane went back to the barn 10 days ago. DHL doesn't operate airplanes, the individual operator decides where its aircraft get serviced.

747classic wrote:

Revelation wrote:

747classic wrote:

Only full freighters have enough earning power to justify the reactivation costs from long-term storage.

I think your post is excellent but just this bit confuses me, didn't we see a least one or two 744-BCFs reactivated from storage to help with the post-covid freighter boom? I agree it can't be done to unconverted 744s especially heavily cannibalized ones, but if an already converted 744BCF has not been cannibalized much, wouldn't it find a use in the current environment?

A 744BCF or 744BDSF is also a full freighter, like a factory built 744F. All have approx the same payload/range.
All full P-F converted 744's or factory built 744F's are at the moment potential reactivation candidates.
Long-term stored all pax 744 are definite not fit for reactivation, the reactivation costs cannot be earned back.
The 744 combi's, used as a "half " freighter with some light cargo carried at the fwd maindeck, are a temporally solution, only profitable in the current high yield cargo environment.

If the 777x is delayed and LH needs some 747’s that would be a good fit. Aren’t the 747-400 for LH have high flight hours.

I noticed while looking through the customer list on ALC that National had bought something from them, anyone knows what plane it is? If no one knows I might have a new theory of where those 7 A350F's are headed

Cardude2 wrote:

I noticed while looking through the customer list on ALC that National had bought something from them, anyone knows what plane it is? If no one knows I might have a new theory of where those 7 A350F's are headed

Their A330 is leased frommALC

Spacepope wrote:

Cardude2 wrote:

I noticed while looking through the customer list on ALC that National had bought something from them, anyone knows what plane it is? If no one knows I might have a new theory of where those 7 A350F's are headed

Their A330 is leased frommALC

ah, thanks for the clarification

Just for clarificatoin: N569AZ, the Amazon-owned 763BDSF that was converted in Mexico, was delivered from MEX fully-painted in Prime Air livery. There's a picture out there of it on a test flight at MEX.

wjcandee wrote:

Just for clarificatoin: N569AZ, the Amazon-owned 763BDSF that was converted in Mexico, was delivered from MEX fully-painted in Prime Air livery. There's a picture out there of it on a test flight at MEX.

Found this on twitter: https://twitter.com/TransportareMX/stat ... 00/photo/1

RoyalBrunei757 wrote:

wjcandee wrote:

Just for clarificatoin: N569AZ, the Amazon-owned 763BDSF that was converted in Mexico, was delivered from MEX fully-painted in Prime Air livery. There's a picture out there of it on a test flight at MEX.

Found this on twitter: https://twitter.com/TransportareMX/stat ... 00/photo/1

Thanks! Good find! Forum rules prevented me from linking to the one I saw elsewhere, so your Twitter find is excellent!

Looks like FX is throwing another A300 into the mic for peak. N733FD is ferrying in to MEM from ANC seemingly fresh from a heavy check.

wjcandee wrote:

Revelation wrote:

Along with the other facilities mentioned in the last few posts, it's an amazing amount of conversion capacity.

Enormous. Excellent point.

Interesting, too, that Boeing is adding KF, which AEI is already using for their 738 conversion. Well, I say AEI is "using" them, but I'm not sure they've been getting exactly a high volume yet. Most AEI 738 work seems to be being done at Commercial Jet still. KF is a good shop, and they deserve the opportunity to make some $$ from this touch work, regardless of what vendor orders it.

I think KF is a lot bigger then a lot of people realise, they have 1000 people on the payroll. Trivia fact they hold the type certificate for Convair aircraft.

UPS 767-300F N376UP delivery flight KPAE-KSAT has been filed with callsign 5X9509 today (Nov 24th), see : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS ... /KPAE/KSAT

After Post Delivery Maintenance (PDM) at San Antonio , she will join the peak in a couple of days.

Aircraft data : L/N 1260 C/N 66811 B767-300F N376UP UNITED PARCEL SERVICE (VR304)

Hopefully the next and last UPS 767-300F on order, N377UP will make it also before the peak.