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MohawkWeekend
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Video of Long Island Crash

Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:01 pm

The NY Post has a security video of the Cessna 421 crash from a few weeks ago. Hope this link works:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/11/video-cap ... red-pilot/
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    Re: Video of Long Island Crash

    Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:30 pm

    "We thank God that no one else was injured"

    Holy crap! I mean, I'm surprised they survived... but no one was even hurt?! :eek: Wow!
    I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
     
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    Re: Video of Long Island Crash

    Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:33 pm

    I'm impressed how intact the airframe remained considering how hard it came down... that were some serious G-forces there.

    Good to hear that the pilot is in stable condition after such a crash. If you cut the video off before impact, I'm sure most people would say this isn't survivable.
     
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    Re: Video of Long Island Crash

    Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:35 pm

    It reminds me of the video of the Cirrus which crashed in I believe Houston. (The AOPA had a done video on that. No one survived that one). This Cessna appears in a complete flat stall, no?
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      Re: Video of Long Island Crash

      Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:38 pm

      That airplane wasn’t generating any lift. It looked like it pancaked into the ground, which possibly enabled whatever crash/impact features a 421 has to diminish some of those very high crash forces. Amazing! Glad it was survivable.
       
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      Re: Video of Long Island Crash

      Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:38 pm

      LAX772LR wrote:
      "We thank God that no one else was injured"

      Holy crap! I mean, I'm surprised they survived... but no one was even hurt?! :eek: Wow!

      Sounds like no one on the ground was hurt. Pilot is in "stable condition", though - and that was the only person on board.
       
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      Re: Video of Long Island Crash

      Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:04 pm

      I think that the pilots life was saved by the fact that the left wing hit the ground first. It probably took a good percentage of the impact energy, thereby reducing the energy that had to be absorbed by the fuselage (and the pilots spine). I doubt that that accident would have been survivable if the impact occurred wings level.
       
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      Re: Video of Long Island Crash

      Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:18 pm

      MohawkWeekend wrote:
      It reminds me of the video of the Cirrus which crashed in I believe Houston. (The AOPA had a done video on that. No one survived that one). This Cessna appears in a complete flat stall, no?



      Yes! Stall is a stall but the left wing started to drop and begin the indcipit spin stage or the beginning of a spin for non pilots. The stall and yaw were all caught...the smacking of the ground stopped the spin development. Notice full right rudder as the plane departs controlled flight and starts the uncommanded left yaw. Wow..

      .I teach acro and Specialize in spins... I am of the belief if you teach spins, you will impart skills to keep you from entering a spin.

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      Re: Video of Long Island Crash

      Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:24 pm

      Flow2706 wrote:
      I think that the pilots life was saved by the fact that the left wing hit the ground first. It probably took a good percentage of the impact energy, thereby reducing the energy that had to be absorbed by the fuselage (and the pilots spine). I doubt that that accident would have been survivable if the impact occurred wings level.


      Looks like a lot of the fuselage hit a pile of something soft as well. If it was leaves / trash / dirt / something else soft, that could have absorbed a lot of the force as well. Pilot is incredibly lucky to have survived that.
       
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      Re: Video of Long Island Crash

      Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:35 am

      kalvado wrote:
      LAX772LR wrote:
      "We thank God that no one else was injured"

      Holy crap! I mean, I'm surprised they survived... but no one was even hurt?! :eek: Wow!

      Sounds like no one on the ground was hurt. Pilot is in "stable condition", though - and that was the only person on board.

      Missed the "else"... mea culpa.

      Still though!
      I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
       
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      Re: Video of Long Island Crash

      Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:11 am

      Yeah this was insane. I’m a student pilot based out of FRG and this happened just as my CFI and I were about to go up and do some landing practice in the area. At first we thought it was an emergency landing and then we got word that they crashed. Aircraft on the ground at FRG were held for a bit as the situation unfolded but it was probably no longer than 10 minutes. As a crash survivor myself I opted not to fly this day as I was a bit rattled by the news and felt that I was not in the correct state of mind to fly. So relieved the pilot lived. Couldn’t believe this video when I saw it.

      The guy had an engine failure after taking off of runway 32 at FRG and experienced what seemed to be a dual engine failure. I was able to listen to ATC afterwards and the pilot was at 1,100 like 2 or 3 miles NW of the airport attempting to return to FRG and land runway 14. Wishing the pilot a speedy recovery.
       
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      Re: Video of Long Island Crash

      Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:49 am

      reltney wrote:
      I teach acro and Specialize in spins... I am of the belief if you teach spins, you will impart skills to keep you from entering a spin.

      Where do you teach? I'd love to fly upside down for a bit.
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      Re: Video of Long Island Crash

      Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:36 am

      To evank516 and all GA plots reading this - if you haven't already I recommend you watch the AOPA safety video's which are available on Youtube. Attached is one that actually had me in tears.You can learn alot from these.
      https://asivideos.aopa.org/detail/video ... rn-tragedy
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        Re: Video of Long Island Crash

        Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:48 pm

        CARST wrote:
        I'm impressed how intact the airframe remained considering how hard it came down... that were some serious G-forces there.

        Good to hear that the pilot is in stable condition after such a crash. If you cut the video off before impact, I'm sure most people would say this isn't survivable.

        Given the situation, as well as running out of options, airspeed, and altitude all at once, I'd say the he did a hell of a job, even with the injuries. He missed the wires and towers, in an area with few options.

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