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SY Apparent New Route Announcement Jan 25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:15 am

Well, I stand corrected, looks like SY is announcing new routes tomorrow, unless these have slid under the radar for some time without anybody noticing them

Seeing FCA, FAI, JAC, and others listed for sale on their website, I would assume SAT/IND are involved in this as well given their posts (edit: seeing SAT-CUN, nothing with Indy yet)
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Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:19 am

SAT-CUN begins May 28
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement 2/25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:25 am

FAI? So, should I assume that they're coming back to ANC this year? I know flights are for sale, but in a post-2020 world, I'm not taking anything for granted!
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement 2/25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:39 am

CVG, IND, BDL, IAH, & RDU
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Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:47 am

AA737-823 wrote:
FAI? So, should I assume that they're coming back to ANC this year? I know flights are for sale, but in a post-2020 world, I'm not taking anything for granted!


MSP-ANC is scheduled to operate nearly every day for the summer. In July, it operates every day with some days having up to 3 daily frequencies.
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement 2/25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:01 am

Here's what seems to be new so far:

- MSP-FAI from May 29
- MSP-FCA/JAC from May 26
- DFW-SNA from May 6
- IND-MSP/MCO from September 2
- MSP-CVG from May 14
- IAH-CUN from May 27 and IAH-MSP from May 13
- MSP-RDU rom May 14
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement 2/25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:03 am

Looks like they’re planning on expanding out of MCO a bit. BDL-MCO shows up starting next fall as well

MSP-YVR is in there too but did they fly that one last year? Doubt it’ll be flown given entry restrictions

IAH-LAS begins 9/2

(Will keep editing as I find more)
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement 2/25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:08 am

DFW-SNA? Wow!

Too bad they got rid of their PDX crew base. Would love to see PDX-BNA again.
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Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:23 am

AC4500 wrote:
DFW-SNA? Wow!

Too bad they got rid of their PDX crew base. Would love to see PDX-BNA again.


Just realized SNA is a new destination with their new slots. MSP-SNA in addition to DFW begins April 30
 
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DFW-SNA? Wow!

is there really that much demand for dfw-sna? american does 9 daily and southwest does 1 daily to dal.
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement 2/25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:47 am

joeblow10 wrote:
MSP-YVR is in there too but did they fly that one last year? Doubt it’ll be flown given entry restrictions


It was slated to start May 2020, I think they never did because COVID.

Curious to see if they make it work. Even before COVID the only ULCC flying transborder is F9 DEN-YYC (plus some WO and F8 to AZA and Florida). Taxes are so high it makes the difference to legacy airlines sticker price much less than on domestic routes.

Now with that people are not supposed to be traveling, G4 is interestingly still flying the "American Canadian" airports (BLI / IAG / OGS / PBG) but NK suspended service pretty soon after international travel was restricted.
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement 2/25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:50 am

Good for them trying all of these new routes. I am a little skeptical about a few though.

From my own perspective EWR/PHL-MCO/LAS/DFW would have been nice!
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement 2/25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:52 am

Can Mods fix the title to say 1/25? I'm sure these route announcements aren't a month away in February.
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement 2/25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:37 am

Route map updated. SMF-MSP got axed. DFW-PVR returns.
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement 2/25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:55 am

Ishrion wrote:
AC4500 wrote:
DFW-SNA? Wow!

Too bad they got rid of their PDX crew base. Would love to see PDX-BNA again.


Just realized SNA is a new destination with their new slots. MSP-SNA in addition to DFW begins April 30


I've wondered for a decade why they didn't try harder for slots at SNA (maybe totally beyond their control) - I think that will be pure gold.
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement 2/25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:46 am

With the addition of CVG and IND, I believe MCI is the last remaining large Midwest city without SY service unless you count DTW. Is it just a matter of time now?
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement 2/25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:20 pm

trexel94 wrote:
With the addition of CVG and IND, I believe MCI is the last remaining large Midwest city without SY service unless you count DTW. Is it just a matter of time now?


They still have CMH, MKE, & CLE(although they already announced it, but dropped it again) left
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Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:36 pm

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AC4500 wrote:
DFW-SNA? Wow!

is there really that much demand for dfw-sna? american does 9 daily and southwest does 1 daily to dal.


It's a fairly common LCC strategy, actually: go into a big, proven market that's dominated by a legacy and offer significantly lower prices. If SY can outlast AA's price response it will find its crowd - it has the cost structure to make it work.
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement 2/25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:51 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
pranav7478 wrote:
AC4500 wrote:
DFW-SNA? Wow!

is there really that much demand for dfw-sna? american does 9 daily and southwest does 1 daily to dal.


It's a fairly common LCC strategy, actually: go into a big, proven market that's dominated by a legacy and offer significantly lower prices. If SY can outlast AA's price response it will find its crowd - it has the cost structure to make it work.


SNA is also a good spot because other carriers have a limited ability to respond thanks to the slot situation.
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement 2/25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:07 pm

trexel94 wrote:
With the addition of CVG and IND, I believe MCI is the last remaining large Midwest city without SY service unless you count DTW. Is it just a matter of time now?


Why wouldn't you count Detroit ?
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement 2/25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:31 pm

klm617 wrote:
trexel94 wrote:
With the addition of CVG and IND, I believe MCI is the last remaining large Midwest city without SY service unless you count DTW. Is it just a matter of time now?


Why wouldn't you count Detroit ?
SY isn't going to fly to Detroit, Delta and Spirit would choke them. That's why F9 and WN struggle to add anything meaningful. DTW has serious brand recognition issues which is good for Delta and Spirit,.bad for everyone else.
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement Jan 25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:35 pm

Is BDL-MCO really a 5 carrier market? (B6, WN, F9, NK and now SY), I'm guessing they might have tried BDL-BNA instead if WN didn't start it
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement Jan 25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:03 pm

The SY website shows that BDL is actually to MCO and MSP.
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement 2/25

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flymco753 wrote:
klm617 wrote:
trexel94 wrote:
With the addition of CVG and IND, I believe MCI is the last remaining large Midwest city without SY service unless you count DTW. Is it just a matter of time now?


Why wouldn't you count Detroit ?
SY isn't going to fly to Detroit, Delta and Spirit would choke them. That's why F9 and WN struggle to add anything meaningful. DTW has serious brand recognition issues which is good for Delta and Spirit,.bad for everyone else.


Very true but it doesn't mean it should be omitted when discussing the largest unserved markets in the midwest.
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement 2/25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:20 pm

klm617 wrote:
flymco753 wrote:
klm617 wrote:

Why wouldn't you count Detroit ?
SY isn't going to fly to Detroit, Delta and Spirit would choke them. That's why F9 and WN struggle to add anything meaningful. DTW has serious brand recognition issues which is good for Delta and Spirit,.bad for everyone else.


Very true but it doesn't mean it should be omitted when discussing the largest unserved markets in the midwest.
I can agree about some markets that could use some extra flights but elsewhere it's saturated. DTW can go without SY if they add something like these adds, it wouldn't be meaningful.
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement 2/25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:13 pm

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joeblow10 wrote:
MSP-YVR is in there too but did they fly that one last year? Doubt it’ll be flown given entry restrictions


It was slated to start May 2020, I think they never did because COVID.

Curious to see if they make it work. Even before COVID the only ULCC flying transborder is F9 DEN-YYC (plus some WO and F8 to AZA and Florida). Taxes are so high it makes the difference to legacy airlines sticker price much less than on domestic routes.

Now with that people are not supposed to be traveling, G4 is interestingly still flying the "American Canadian" airports (BLI / IAG / OGS / PBG) but NK suspended service pretty soon after international travel was restricted.


You are correct in that IAG is still flying, BLI is a hub of their so that is going as well. PBG is operating hardly at all, but still at least once a week.

Ogdensburg however was discontinued early on in the pandemic and has yet to restart. OGS Is such a small city they depended on that Canadian traffic, where IAG has the Buffalo area and PBG has Burlington. Ogdensburg, the closest non-Canadian city that is “large” is Syracuse, and they have Allegiant themselves.

Allegiant has even gone as far as saying they have discontinued OGS “indefinitely”. I found someone who did a trip report at Ogdensburg on United, they actually connected there going from IAD to ORD...

https://youtu.be/M7vrOJmRQvA

Very interesting that he/she chose to connect in that city.
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement Jan 25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:00 pm

RL757PVD wrote:
Is BDL-MCO really a 5 carrier market? (B6, WN, F9, NK and now SY), I'm guessing they might have tried BDL-BNA instead if WN didn't start it


Appears it is now, should be very competitive fares though which is great for BDL. Great time to start MCO, IMO, starting the fall/winter winter bird leisure and travel should be a lot higher in September than now, hoping.

Great add for BDL, especially with the MSP add.
 
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Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:47 pm

Anyone know what their fleet will look like with these adds? I assuming they are adding aircraft?
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement Jan 25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:15 pm

I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but I honestly don't see how SY adding anything outside of MSP is a good idea for them at this point....

SY has proven, time and time again that they cannot make a profit outside of MSP. LAS may be the only exception. It's a shame, though, because they've tried so many times and have always come up short it seems. Since expanding outside of MSP has mostly failed, they've now started contract-flying for Amazon. COVID has hit SY harder than other airlines because SY had an abysmal U.S. market share to begin with. BNA, PDX, PVD, STL "focus cities" (if you want to call them that, lol) have all but failed. It's certainly a slap in the face to PVD that SY is adding BDL flights. We'll see if this new batch of routes works out for them this time, but given how poorly timed these Mexico route adds were, I certainly have my doubts.
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement Jan 25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:25 pm

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I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but I honestly don't see how SY adding anything outside of MSP is a good idea for them at this point....

SY has proven, time and time again that they cannot make a profit outside of MSP. LAS may be the only exception. It's a shame, though, because they've tried so many times and have always come up short it seems. Since expanding outside of MSP has mostly failed, they've now started contract-flying for Amazon. COVID has hit SY harder than other airlines because SY had an abysmal U.S. market share to begin with. BNA, PDX, PVD, STL "focus cities" (if you want to call them that, lol) have all but failed. It's certainly a slap in the face to PVD that SY is adding BDL flights. We'll see if this new batch of routes works out for them this time, but given how poorly timed these Mexico route adds were, I certainly have my doubts.


Most of these adds are around MSP though. Other than Texas-CUN, which seems to have worked for them (at least, pre Covid)

My hunch is BDL was added as a way to get crews to/from Amazon flying, same with CVG. The rest of it is largely vacation centric and should work for them. Places like FAI and JAC are long overdue
 
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Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:43 pm

AC4500 wrote:
I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but I honestly don't see how SY adding anything outside of MSP is a good idea for them at this point....

SY has proven, time and time again that they cannot make a profit outside of MSP. LAS may be the only exception. It's a shame, though, because they've tried so many times and have always come up short it seems. Since expanding outside of MSP has mostly failed, they've now started contract-flying for Amazon. COVID has hit SY harder than other airlines because SY had an abysmal U.S. market share to begin with. BNA, PDX, PVD, STL "focus cities" (if you want to call them that, lol) have all but failed. It's certainly a slap in the face to PVD that SY is adding BDL flights. We'll see if this new batch of routes works out for them this time, but given how poorly timed these Mexico route adds were, I certainly have my doubts.


I dont see BDL as a slap in the face for PVD... they are entirely different markets with very little overlap. The two airports really only complete over the area of New London CT. BDL-MSP is 2x weekly, which should be low enough to not register a DL response that would drive them off, whereas PVD-MSP ix 4x weekly
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Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:53 pm

Amazon is fueling SCX growth..No plan to add jets just yet...However they are always looking and always have been.
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Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:55 pm

joeblow10 wrote:
My hunch is BDL was added as a way to get crews to/from Amazon flying, same with CVG.


I had mentioned that F9 was able to make less-than-daily CVG-MSP nonstop service work prior to the COVID-19 pandemic, and SY might be able to make CVG-MSP nonstop service work with F9 off of the CVG-MSP route. There are also fewer connecting options between CVG and MSP than was the case prior to the COVID-19 pandemic with the cuts that AA, UA, and WN have made on CVG-CHI and MSP-CHI nonstop service during the COVID-19 pandemic.
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement Jan 25

Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:18 pm

joeblow10 wrote:
AC4500 wrote:
I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but I honestly don't see how SY adding anything outside of MSP is a good idea for them at this point....

SY has proven, time and time again that they cannot make a profit outside of MSP. LAS may be the only exception. It's a shame, though, because they've tried so many times and have always come up short it seems. Since expanding outside of MSP has mostly failed, they've now started contract-flying for Amazon. COVID has hit SY harder than other airlines because SY had an abysmal U.S. market share to begin with. BNA, PDX, PVD, STL "focus cities" (if you want to call them that, lol) have all but failed. It's certainly a slap in the face to PVD that SY is adding BDL flights. We'll see if this new batch of routes works out for them this time, but given how poorly timed these Mexico route adds were, I certainly have my doubts.


Most of these adds are around MSP though. Other than Texas-CUN, which seems to have worked for them (at least, pre Covid)

My hunch is BDL was added as a way to get crews to/from Amazon flying, same with CVG. The rest of it is largely vacation centric and should work for them. Places like FAI and JAC are long overdue


Your hunch may be one aspect of why they added BDL, IAH, IND...the other being the additional flights OUT OF those cities to leisure destinations such as MCO, LAS. They need to move the planes to/from MSP anyway, so why not gain some revenue.
 
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Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:22 pm

Im surprised SY doesn't try to make a move at MKE. It fit's there midwest market. And with the huge hole of west-coast service as well as weekend charters to the Caribbean it makes sense.
 
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Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:51 pm

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COVID has hit SY harder than other airlines because SY had an abysmal U.S. market share to begin with.


What are you talking about? SY has been the least impacted by COVID out of any US airline
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usflyer msp wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:
pranav7478 wrote:
is there really that much demand for dfw-sna? american does 9 daily and southwest does 1 daily to dal.


It's a fairly common LCC strategy, actually: go into a big, proven market that's dominated by a legacy and offer significantly lower prices. If SY can outlast AA's price response it will find its crowd - it has the cost structure to make it work.


SNA is also a good spot because other carriers have a limited ability to respond thanks to the slot situation.


AA has the SNA-DFW market covered. I fly AA through DFW from SNA 3 times a month. Even with COVID they offer multiple departures at the lowest fares I’ve seen in years. AA will really only have to match the lowest SY fare on one of their departures, presumably the one closest to the SY departure time. It’s a tactic we used at AS against ULCC’s and it worked very well. If AA price matches on all of their departures, SY, low costs and all, won’t make it. I think SNA could be a good market for them to MSP, but DFW? If the over/under was 6 months before ceasing service? I’d bet the under.
 
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Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:58 am

SY should consider transcontinental LAS flights. EWR/JFK/-LAS would do very well. EWR would be harder due to competition from F9, B6, UA, and NK, but SY can always price match the ULCCs. SY can appeal to price sensitive fliers for JFK. AA, DL, and B6 would be pricier.

How do airlines do on the NYC-LAS routes? Specifically ULCCs/LCCs.
 
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Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:17 am

AmericanAir88 wrote:
SY should consider transcontinental LAS flights. EWR/JFK/-LAS would do very well. EWR would be harder due to competition from F9, B6, UA, and NK, but SY can always price match the ULCCs. SY can appeal to price sensitive fliers for JFK. AA, DL, and B6 would be pricier.

How do airlines do on the NYC-LAS routes? Specifically ULCCs/LCCs.

Cause thats exactly what NYC needs is another airline flying NYC-LAS.
 
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Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:51 pm

BA744PHX wrote:
AmericanAir88 wrote:
SY should consider transcontinental LAS flights. EWR/JFK/-LAS would do very well. EWR would be harder due to competition from F9, B6, UA, and NK, but SY can always price match the ULCCs. SY can appeal to price sensitive fliers for JFK. AA, DL, and B6 would be pricier.

How do airlines do on the NYC-LAS routes? Specifically ULCCs/LCCs.

Cause thats exactly what NYC needs is another airline flying NYC-LAS.


NYC-LAS would make way more sense than most of these other adds.
 
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Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:17 pm

BA744PHX wrote:
AmericanAir88 wrote:
SY should consider transcontinental LAS flights. EWR/JFK/-LAS would do very well. EWR would be harder due to competition from F9, B6, UA, and NK, but SY can always price match the ULCCs. SY can appeal to price sensitive fliers for JFK. AA, DL, and B6 would be pricier.

How do airlines do on the NYC-LAS routes? Specifically ULCCs/LCCs.

Cause thats exactly what NYC needs is another airline flying NYC-LAS.


One might think that UA/DL/AA/B6/F9 on NYC-LAS covers the market high and low. I don't see what SY brings to that market.

IMHO, SY, like Allegiant, needs to go where WN/NK/F9 are not.
 
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Tack wrote:
AA has the SNA-DFW market covered. I fly AA through DFW from SNA 3 times a month. Even with COVID they offer multiple departures at the lowest fares I’ve seen in years. AA will really only have to match the lowest SY fare on one of their departures, presumably the one closest to the SY departure time. It’s a tactic we used at AS against ULCC’s and it worked very well. If AA price matches on all of their departures, SY, low costs and all, won’t make it. I think SNA could be a good market for them to MSP, but DFW? If the over/under was 6 months before ceasing service? I’d bet the under.


You're arguing that a fairly busy airport pair won't get ULCC pricing. Good luck with that. The last fifteen years have proven you wrong. SY may not be the carrier to succeed but Dallas-SNA will get a ULCC.
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement Jan 25

Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:15 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
BA744PHX wrote:
AmericanAir88 wrote:
SY should consider transcontinental LAS flights. EWR/JFK/-LAS would do very well. EWR would be harder due to competition from F9, B6, UA, and NK, but SY can always price match the ULCCs. SY can appeal to price sensitive fliers for JFK. AA, DL, and B6 would be pricier.

How do airlines do on the NYC-LAS routes? Specifically ULCCs/LCCs.

Cause thats exactly what NYC needs is another airline flying NYC-LAS.


One might think that UA/DL/AA/B6/F9 on NYC-LAS covers the market high and low. I don't see what SY brings to that market.

IMHO, SY, like Allegiant, needs to go where WN/NK/F9 are not.



SY has expressed interest in returning to JFK. JFK currently does not have a low cost carrier flying to LAS direct. B6 has drifted far away from being low cost.

SY can fill in the gap that Virgin America/Alaska left. LAS is a destination that is prime for low cost fliers and an alternative to legacies at JFK would generate high LFs. Plus SY can tag onto T4, where international travel is highly down, making it a smooth airport experience.
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement Jan 25

Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:19 pm

Cause thats exactly what NYC needs is another airline flying NYC-LAS.


What is so wrong about more NYC-LAS? The routes do well on legacies and B6. JFK only has two airlines running that route currently until AA resumes service.

I have no data on how well ULCCs do on NYC-LAS. Anyone know?
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement Jan 25

Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:37 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
AC4500 wrote:
COVID has hit SY harder than other airlines because SY had an abysmal U.S. market share to begin with.


What are you talking about? SY has been the least impacted by COVID out of any US airline


I'm not sure if they started the Amazon talks before or after COVID lockdowns began, but what a great decision that turned out to be...
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement Jan 25

Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:27 pm

AmericanAir88 wrote:
Cause thats exactly what NYC needs is another airline flying NYC-LAS.


What is so wrong about more NYC-LAS? The routes do well on legacies and B6. JFK only has two airlines running that route currently until AA resumes service.

I have no data on how well ULCCs do on NYC-LAS. Anyone know?


Not great. Airlines are not stupid. They go after markets that have potential to make money. The fact that sy has not tried this route should tell you how badly they would do here.
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement Jan 25

Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:24 pm

Here is a list of all of the new routes that were officially loaded:

BDL-MSP
CVG-MSP
DFW-SNA
FAI-MSP
FCA-MSP
IAH-MSP
IND-MSP
JAC-MSP
MSP-RDU
MSP-SNA
PHX-PSP
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement Jan 25

Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:29 pm

aaexpdfw wrote:
Here is a list of all of the new routes that were officially loaded:

BDL-MSP
CVG-MSP
DFW-SNA
FAI-MSP
FCA-MSP
IAH-MSP
IND-MSP
JAC-MSP
MSP-RDU
MSP-SNA
PHX-PSP


They loaded more routes than that and PHX-PSP isn’t one of them.
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aaexpdfw
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement Jan 25

Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:35 pm

FLYKTPA wrote:
aaexpdfw wrote:
Here is a list of all of the new routes that were officially loaded:

BDL-MSP
CVG-MSP
DFW-SNA
FAI-MSP
FCA-MSP
IAH-MSP
IND-MSP
JAC-MSP
MSP-RDU
MSP-SNA
PHX-PSP


They loaded more routes than that and PHX-PSP isn’t one of them.


They sent a 1-time flight #906 to operate on 2/3 in the SSIM. I wasn't looking at departure counts, just new markets. But yea, looks like a odd-ball positioning flight or something. They coded it as scheduled service, but maybe its a misfiled charter.

As for the SSIM they released yesterday, that is all they released. Anything else doesn't appear to be scheduled (yet).
 
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Re: SY Apparent New Route Announcement Jan 25

Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:38 pm

Can the 738 even operate at JAC with decent loads? Would be a rare bird there certainly. Might SY use their lone 73G?

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