seahawk wrote:They would both want a lot of things, none of which are going to happen. There will be players coming in, and in China which is a huge market, local manufactured aircraft will probably be mandated on local players. Do they want that? No, but they are powerless.Gremlinzzzz wrote:seahawk wrote:And the OEMs do not want that. As long as both are running at capacity and earn good margins, it is totally okay for Airbus and Boeing to have the MAX with a little advantage in the -7/-8 and the A321 with a little advantage over the -9/-10. A nicely balanced duopoly is perfect for both.
They are both publicly traded stock.
The very worst they want is to maintain market share even as the need for aviation continues to grow. Investors also want to see revenues and profits going up, and if they are wise/have any common sense, they will insist on long term planning. Boeing is not going to be profitable for quite some time unless they become really, really creative in how they report. It has nothing to do with program accounting but poor execution across multiple product lines.
Boeing is in the hole they are in today because they were pandering to the short term dictates that dominate Wall St.in combination to making some strange decisions to cater to a few airlines.
I think both would be very happy with keeping the market share at 50:50 and with no third player gaining market share.
All big companies want to dominate, settling for a 50/50 split is the bare minimum. Boeing can be a great company if they put their minds into it; you look at what they did with the 777, or the thinking that went into the 787 business case......they can really be great. Up to this point, even discounting poor execution, they had Airbus on the ropes.
That kind of thinking is what they need going forward, and they need to really come through when it comes to manufacturing on the next clean sheet program.