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ClipperYankee
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:11 pm

I know it's not a very popular site around these parts but there might be a reprieve:

https://simpleflying.com/ex-lufthansa-b ... postponed/

or

http://simpleflying.com/ex-lufthansa-bo ... postponed/
 
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ClipperYankee
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:59 pm

And another update from everyone's favorite site:

https://simpleflying.com/hamburg-luftha ... nning-out/

It still would be nice if they could save the aircraft.
 
bennett123
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Sat May 08, 2021 4:45 pm

https://www.facebook.com/charliehotelaviation

Apparently, the one at Tegel is being broken and the one at Hamburg is expected to follow.
 
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Sat May 08, 2021 4:53 pm

bennett123 wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/charliehotelaviation

Apparently, the one at Tegel is being broken and the one at Hamburg is expected to follow.

The one at TXL has been on the front page of A.net the past few days:
 
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Sat May 08, 2021 11:41 pm

Perhaps they wanted to replace it with the first A380 Whalejet to be retired? :stretch: Not that this is it...only used the photos to illustrate. At least they could fly one there! :duck:


Not much sense to convert it to a restaurant either as very few people dine out now due to the pandemic. Although they sure wouldn't have any problem with social distancing given the double deck dining. :crowded:
 
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:50 pm

The Hamburg 707 was towed to the scrapping area today for dismanteling to start tomorrow Jun 10.
https://simpleflying.com/lufthansa-boei ... d-hamburg/
 
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:04 pm

TC957 wrote:
The Hamburg 707 was towed to the scrapping area today for dismanteling to start tomorrow Jun 10.
https://simpleflying.com/lufthansa-boei ... d-hamburg/


This kind of short term thinking makes me sick. Budgets are down this year due to COVID. So scrap the historic airplane that can never be replaced.

Supposedly the airport authority was ignoring or even blocking the efforts to preserve it.
 
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:03 pm

What condition was it in?.
 
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:58 pm

bennett123 wrote:
What condition was it in?.


definitely not in flight-safe confectionery, but still a sad story !
 
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:46 am

This is what things looked like yesterday in the evening. Honestly I dont want to go there today and see what might happen right now. Its a big shame, shame in you Hamburg Airport!

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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:35 am

Looks like they cut the hole to throw the cabin furnishings out.
 
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:11 am

oldJoe wrote:
bennett123 wrote:
What condition was it in?.


definitely not in flight-safe confectionery, but still a sad story !


As sickened as I am about this, from looking at the photos the airplane didn’t look to be in very good condition.
 
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:11 am

If you go to a museum nothing appears to be in good condition. Yet you don’t throw everything out of the window. Especially in archaeological museums. But such collections exist in Greece and Egypt (and whatever Western museums where stolen artifacts are on display.) What do Germans understand about what a museum is? Do they have antiquities of their own? The excuse that the cost for preserving the aircraft was high is laughable. Volunteers would gladly do that for free.
 
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:20 am

If you want to keep historic aircraft for longer they must be under a roof if you don't live in a dry desert. After some years everything is rotten. Humidity and condensation inside can be another pain.
It is sad to see it scrapped but unfortunately it is a matter of when not if. Especially in northern Germany being famous for coastal wet climate. Aircraft don't age well if not maintained and flown.

If you want to keep any aircraft find a hangar first.
 
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:57 am

It is just an old plane and not some valuable relic. Good that they finally scrap it.
 
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:30 am

“El ataque de los tomates asesinos”. Yes with a difference. This is (was) a rare example of a Boeing 707-400, complete with intact Conway engines, not a cannibalised leftover to which I would have no objection even myself. But it spoiled the scenery and the picture Germans want us to have about their perfect installations: If you cannot polish it, don’t bother, throw it away.
 
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:33 am

There are rumors that they want to put an ex Lufthansa 737-500 (D-ABIA) in the place where the 707 was sitting. This seems to be the real reason for the scrapping and why the Airport did not even want to hear about offers to finance the 707 or take care of it, they seem to have some kind of contract with Lufthansa Technik about that -- this is what I read.
D-ABIA flew for Lufthansa from 1990, was retired in 2015 and used as a training aircraft at Lufthansa Technik -- just like the 707 once in the 80s/90s. Now they use an A320.
Just imagine someone telling you they scrap a historic 1960 airplane to put a 1990 airplane there instead ... :fight:

Here is a picture of D-ABIAs last ever landing, ironically with the 707 in the background.

 
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:54 am

Lufthansa and the 737. That's some historic pairing. They should keep this one under a roof. Otherwise we will talk again in twenty years...
 
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:22 pm

GZM1 wrote:
“El ataque de los tomates asesinos”. Yes with a difference. This is (was) a rare example of a Boeing 707-400, complete with intact Conway engines, not a cannibalised leftover to which I would have no objection even myself. But it spoiled the scenery and the picture Germans want us to have about their perfect installations: If you cannot polish it, don’t bother, throw it away.

Mostly it took up space and did cost money, with no chance of creating a meaningful revenue for the airport. It was a waste of resources and should have been scrapped long ago.
 
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:34 pm

SEPilot wrote:
Let’s face reality. Historic preservation is a luxury. COVID has hurt the airline industry probably harder than just about any other, and airlines, airports and all related and dependent businesses are struggling for survival. There just is no money for non flyable aircraft, no matter how historic.


So if it's sat where it is for so long, why not just leave it in situ a few years more to see how the business picks up ?
 
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:36 pm

Noshow wrote:
Lufthansa and the 737. That's some historic pairing. They should keep this one under a roof. Otherwise we will talk again in twenty years...


Will be at the same place AFAIK. So in 20 years we will talk about a 50 year old 737-500 (maybe also the last of its kind then) getting scrapped and an A320 taking its place, which is now used for training.
Scrapping a 707 to get a 737-500 in its place is the largest bullshit I ever heard. The 737-500 will make no revenue for the airport as well ... Well, at least better than nothing.
 
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Re: Hamburg Airport 707 to be scrapped

Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:14 pm

seahawk wrote:
GZM1 wrote:
“El ataque de los tomates asesinos”. Yes with a difference. This is (was) a rare example of a Boeing 707-400, complete with intact Conway engines, not a cannibalised leftover to which I would have no objection even myself. But it spoiled the scenery and the picture Germans want us to have about their perfect installations: If you cannot polish it, don’t bother, throw it away.

Mostly it took up space and did cost money, with no chance of creating a meaningful revenue for the airport. It was a waste of resources and should have been scrapped long ago.

So let’s turn it into a pile of scrap like the pieces of a puzzle, then add some tomato sauce dripping to the side and forming a huge WHY....

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