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SW (Air Namibia) Ceases operations; Gov't Seeks to Liquidate

Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:14 am

 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:17 am

Too bad. I cant imagine there are many carriers to fill the void, if any.
Perhaps this will end the SW/ Southwest interactions.
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:18 am

I wonder if WN will seek to change their IATA code to the soon to be available SW.

I also wonder how may people read the headline and had heart attacks thinking Southwest was going under.
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:38 am

Who is going to be left flying domestic routes in Namibia?
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:56 am

Sad.

I would assume that ET or one of the South African carriers are candidates to make a move in Namibia.
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:57 am

SouthWest have tried at least twice in the past to persuade Air Namibia to change IATA code but each time a huge price was demanded. Perhaps this time, it might go differently
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:02 am

SW is soon to join a list of airlines I've flown that will be nothing more than a footnote in aviation history. There are private companies in Namibia that given an opportunity will fill the domesitc vacuum left by SW demise. I'm sure WN will bid on the SW IATA code if given the chance, whether they would use it is another matter.
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:08 am

didn't they operate a DC-6 on a domestic route as early as 20 years ago, or least had a partner carrier that serviced the route to Victoria Falls. Seems i had an Airways article about that.
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:15 am

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didn't they operate a DC-6 on a domestic route as early as 20 years ago, or least had a partner carrier that serviced the route to Victoria Falls. Seems i had an Airways article about that.


NCA, Namibia Commercial Aviation ran the DC-6 for Air Namibia on the Windhoek - Victoria Falls route. Did the flight in April of 1997, absolutely sensational experience. At the time Air Zimbabwe had a pilots strike going on and the DC-6 was being used for domestic flights in Zimbabwe. The DC-6 is now with Red Bull.
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:23 am

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Who is going to be left flying domestic routes in Namibia?


There is WestAir which operates mainly scheduled services regionally on WDH-JNB and WDH-CPT, plus then one domestic scheduled route from Windhoek's other airport Eros to Ondangwa (ERS-OND).
They operate ERJ145. Further on as charter service.
They'll probably now look to expand domestic and regional, as market also improves slowly.
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:16 am

A bit more information.

https://www.namibian.com.na/98834/read/ ... iquidation

The story may not be quite over yet but it does look like this is the end.

As mentioned, Westair will surely pick up quite a bit of the domestic network. If I'm not wrong, they actually own the four ERJ135s operated by Air Namibia.
 
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grjplanes wrote:
Weatherwatcher1 wrote:
Who is going to be left flying domestic routes in Namibia?


There is WestAir which operates mainly scheduled services regionally on WDH-JNB and WDH-CPT, plus then one domestic scheduled route from Windhoek's other airport Eros to Ondangwa (ERS-OND).
They operate ERJ145. Further on as charter service.
They'll probably now look to expand domestic and regional, as market also improves slowly.


Wouldn't be surprised if Airlink (4Z) will be interesting in expanding destinations to Namibia. I don't know if they could operate domestic flights within Namibia though.
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:53 pm

So sad. Flew them once in 2005, From Windhoek to Frankfurt on the MD11. Basic, but pretty enjoyable flight for that time. Polite, pleasant flight crew.
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:07 pm

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Wouldn't be surprised if Airlink (4Z) will be interesting in expanding destinations to Namibia. I don't know if they could operate domestic flights within Namibia though.


I remember a time, the government tried to block Airlink - not granting 5th freedom on the Namibia - St. Helena route. Now the Namibian government can be happy to find a partner. How things changes.
 
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Re: SW (Air Namibia) Ceases operations; Gov't Seeks to Liquidate

Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:46 pm

Ugh so sad. I remember the A340.
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:17 pm

No! It's on my bucket list to visit Namibia and I definitely would've gone out of my way to fly them. :(
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:43 pm

What a shame! I flew Air Namibia years ago aboard their leased 747SP, their 737-200, and Beech 1900. Sadly, politics intruded on what had been a very well run operation, and thus started the slow downhill slide.
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:50 pm

I am sure the Namibian tax payer will be happy!
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:44 pm

ContinentalEWR wrote:
So sad. Flew them once in 2005, From Windhoek to Frankfurt on the MD11. Basic, but pretty enjoyable flight for that time. Polite, pleasant flight crew.

Yeah, I flew them from WDH-LHR in the mid 90s on their ‘SP’, a nice service indeed. That said, Namibia is a bit of a niche market without a great deal of O/D or connecting traffic, I am a bit surprised that they lasted as long as they have. Still, sad to see another carrier disappear.
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:57 pm

bravotango75 wrote:
ContinentalEWR wrote:
So sad. Flew them once in 2005, From Windhoek to Frankfurt on the MD11. Basic, but pretty enjoyable flight for that time. Polite, pleasant flight crew.

Yeah, I flew them from WDH-LHR in the mid 90s on their ‘SP’, a nice service indeed. That said, Namibia is a bit of a niche market without a great deal of O/D or connecting traffic, I am a bit surprised that they lasted as long as they have. Still, sad to see another carrier disappear.

SW was subsidised to ensure that European tourists have an easy nonstop to come to Namibia. The main issue is that WDH has very little regional O/D demand.

The international demand will likely be covered by foreign airlines like EW/LH, ET and QR. There are many more nonstop and one-stop options to Namibia nowadays compared to 30 years ago when SW started serving FRA. (Well, at least there were more pre-COVID)
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:38 pm

For wealthy tourists traveling around the country, a private operator (like Westair) will fill this gap. Just look how many C208 operators there are in Tanzania

Outside JNB to WDH, I imagine local demand by Namibians is little to none.

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Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:18 pm

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The main issue is that WDH has very little regional O/D demand.



Which makes it even more intriguing that Windhoek would need to have two airports (WDH and ERS), although I realize ERS runway length likely can't handle widebodies, it seems like a lot for such a small city.
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:26 pm

WDH airport - i.e. the airport with a longer runway - is 45 km from the city centre
ERS aiport - i.e. the airport with a shorter runway - is 5 km from the city centre
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:19 pm

Maybe LH or Eurowings will hop on FRA-WDH? Or TK from IST?
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:24 pm

Condor has already said they will be flying FRA-WDH from 03-May-2021
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosea_Kut ... #Passenger
 
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:11 am

TWA772LR wrote:
Maybe LH or Eurowings will hop on FRA-WDH? Or TK from IST?


What?! Someone has to update Wikipedia I guess...

https://www.eurowings.com/en/discover/d ... .html.html
 
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:35 am

I flew SW shorthaul with them WVB-WDH-CPT on the E135/A319 but the crew were attentive and I feel of them during this time (as I am for all our airline employee brethren. I always loved the SP/MD11.in SW liveries. Let's hope Namibia dioes not lose out because of this, It's a beautiful country that I want to revisit soon.
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alan3 wrote:
mxaxai wrote:
The main issue is that WDH has very little regional O/D demand.



Which makes it even more intriguing that Windhoek would need to have two airports (WDH and ERS), although I realize ERS runway length likely can't handle widebodies, it seems like a lot for such a small city.


ERS airport is small and while the runway has length, it is not very wide and probably doesn't have great tarmac strength. It is also nearly 6000ft above sea level. It is used mostly for the tourist flights to game parks, etc. When I visited the NCA DC-6's were based based there, though I assume it was more used as a maintenance base than actually operating commercial flights from there. Also the area immediately around Windhoek is not really conducive to a large airport. WDH is located well away from the city on flat open land and in 50 years there is plenty of room to expand the terminal building.
 
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:48 am

I flew with SW just once, in 2019 from WDH to JNB. Nice people, nice service, although the rather extravagant meal service was a clue as to one place where the money was being wasted. I've never been offered four different meat-based hot meals on any flight, let alone one that was only 1h45m. (I'm vegetarian, which entertained the steward).
 
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:49 am

Flew SW a couple times (LUN-WDH-ACC r/t & LUN-WDH r/t). Was a great small regional outfit. As a flyer, their pricing was reasonable, connections were convenient (at least on my trip to/from ACC) and they offered great service on board their E135 and A319s.
 
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The main issue is that WDH has very little regional O/D demand.


You'd be surprised. I live in Windhoek. There's more O&D than you think.

The international demand will likely be covered by foreign airlines like EW/LH, ET and QR. There are many more nonstop and one-stop options to Namibia nowadays compared to 30 years ago when SW started serving FRA. (Well, at least there were more pre-COVID)


That was true until last year. We had Air Namibia, KLM, Ethiopian, Qatar, Eurowings, Condor flying into WDH and multiple daily flights connecting us to JNB. Almost all of that has now gone.

KLM and Qatar aren't coming back. At least we still have Ethiopian.
 
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:28 am

alan3 wrote:
mxaxai wrote:
The main issue is that WDH has very little regional O/D demand.



Which makes it even more intriguing that Windhoek would need to have two airports (WDH and ERS), although I realize ERS runway length likely can't handle widebodies, it seems like a lot for such a small city.

Strangely, the KLM A330 flight diverted to Eros a number of times. I live overlooking the airport. Never got to see it but it was there on FR24.
 
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PM wrote:
The main issue is that WDH has very little regional O/D demand.


You'd be surprised. I live in Windhoek. There's more O&D than you think.

The international demand will likely be covered by foreign airlines like EW/LH, ET and QR. There are many more nonstop and one-stop options to Namibia nowadays compared to 30 years ago when SW started serving FRA. (Well, at least there were more pre-COVID)


That was true until last year. We had Air Namibia, KLM, Ethiopian, Qatar, Eurowings, Condor flying into WDH and multiple daily flights connecting us to JNB. Almost all of that has now gone.

KLM and Qatar aren't coming back. At least we still have Ethiopian.


I'm optimistic QR and KL will return eventually. Perhaps already in the next northern winter season. People will want to travel again when most restrictions are lifted. I certainly will :)

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I flew SW shorthaul with them WVB-WDH-CPT on the E135/A319 but the crew were attentive and I feel of them during this time (as I am for all our airline employee brethren. I always loved the SP/MD11.in SW liveries. Let's hope Namibia dioes not lose out because of this, It's a beautiful country that I want to revisit soon.


Totally agreed. I planned to visit the Caprivi Strip as part of my Botswana/Namibia trip last September, had to delay it by a year of course. Hope I'll be able to make it this year :crossfingers:
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I'm optimistic QR and KL will return eventually. Perhaps already in the next northern winter season. People will want to travel again when most restrictions are lifted. I certainly will :)


We can but hope but I'm told by the QR station manager here that they won't be back before 2022 and maybe 2023. And KLM were always ambivalent about WDH.

On the other hand, maybe this tempts some others to try their luck. EK or TK, perhaps?
 
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Qatar Air website is selling direct flights between Windhoek and Doha from 28-March-2021
As to whether those flights actually take place, I can't say
 
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With private airline Westair now the only airline in town, and also being the owner of the former SW E135s, could they seek to add those E135s to its AOC and also maybe acquire E190s for regional haul? Regarding the route to FRA, I have to wonder if LH might re-time its Eurowings flight to WDH to be a morning departure from FRA and an evening departure from WDH...or have a situation where a plane sits on the ground for most of the day in WDH before returning to FRA with only the return flight re-timed (which could allow the same crew to fly the plane back in the event of IRROPS). Why I mention that is because a morning departure from FRA with a 2-hour turn at WDH doesn't really leave many possibilities for connections.
 
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Qatar Air website is selling direct flights between Windhoek and Doha from 28-March-2021
As to whether those flights actually take place, I can't say

There's no chance of this happening. Sadly.
 
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An update.

https://www.namibian.com.na/98877/read/ ... t-billions

Air Namibia bought a new 747-400? I'm afraid I never knew that. But it's true - it was an Asiana plane ntu.

https://boeing.mediaroom.com/1999-10-22 ... -400-Combi
 
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Namibia has a population of 2.5 million. Do they really need an airline to fly internationally? I can understand having a small domestic carrier since the country is pretty large but is there enough demand for more than that? Just give incentives for foreign carriers to expand their presence and there you go.
 
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PM wrote:

On the other hand, maybe this tempts some others to try their luck. EK or TK, perhaps?


I doubt about EK. They didn't even try when there seemed no limit to their expansion plans.
TK certainly does seem a good candidate, they are proud to be the airline with the most destinations.

I wonder, so many airlines have their aircraft sitting idle at JNB between two night flights, why doesn't any airline try a tag on to WDH? Lots of Star alliance carriers at JNB, one of them could funnel all pax with WDH as final destination. South African Airways is gone now, they won't carry them any more. And now with SW gone too, there's just Comair left to serve JNB-WDH I think, and they aren't doing great either.

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Thank you for the link. Shocking to read the airline lost less money not flying than actually flying aircraft :crazy: Made the decision to liquidate the airline a no-brainer sadly.
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PM wrote:

On the other hand, maybe this tempts some others to try their luck. EK or TK, perhaps?


I doubt about EK. They didn't even try when there seemed no limit to their expansion plans.
TK certainly does seem a good candidate, they are proud to be the airline with the most destinations.

I wonder, so many airlines have their aircraft sitting idle at JNB between two night flights, why doesn't any airline try a tag on to WDH? Lots of Star alliance carriers at JNB, one of them could funnel all pax with WDH as final destination. South African Airways is gone now, they won't carry them any more. And now with SW gone too, there's just Comair left to serve JNB-WDH I think, and they aren't doing great either.

PM wrote:


Thank you for the link. Shocking to read the airline lost less money not flying than actually flying aircraft :crazy: Made the decision to liquidate the airline a no-brainer sadly.


Another (probably not very consequential) update.

https://www.namibian.com.na/98966/read/ ... iquidation
 
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Namibia has a population of 2.5 million. Do they really need an airline to fly internationally? I can understand having a small domestic carrier since the country is pretty large but is there enough demand for more than that? Just give incentives for foreign carriers to expand their presence and there you go.

There was a point when Namibia wasn't served by any long haul carriers, and it was considered a good idea to guarantee international connectivity through SW. The country had just become independent from South Africa, so they didn't want to be dependent on the primary regional hub in JNB either. SW has served tourism, business travel and cargo (hence why a 747-400M was operated, briefly).

Nowadays, with larger interest from European carriers (KL, DE and EW), the emergence of non-European hubs (ET, QR, potentially EK, TK) and stable relations with South Africa, the country is less dependent on a national carrier.

Some people are suggesting that possible paths to profitability were not considered, and that the decision to liquidate is a political move for personal gains:
https://www.namibian.com.na/98881/read/ ... es-crushed

But with the competition that emerged in the past few years, I don't think SW had any chance to make a profit flying to FRA.
 
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SW had one long-haul route - WDH-FRA served with two leased A330-200s. Each plane sat on the ground for 14 hours a day. That's gone and it won't come back.

Their regional operation was a bit scrappy. JNB and CPT made sense (though competition was fierce) but there was little coherent strategy beyond that. That accounted for their four A319s.

Then there was their domestic network. I don't know how profitable that was but flights were often full and somebody should be able to make money on those routes. I'm hopeful that Westair will expand quickly and fill that gap.

AirLink appear to be the regional beneficiary of the turmoil in South Africa and Namibia. Might they find a way in?

And, looking further ahead, wouldn't the A220 be an ideal plane for many of the routes in this region? I had hoped that SW might go in that direction sooner or later. Might AirLink? Westair?!
 
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And, looking further ahead, wouldn't the A220 be an ideal plane for many of the routes in this region? I had hoped that SW might go in that direction sooner or later. Might AirLink? Westair?!

I think an E-170 would be more appropriately sized for any destination that isn't JNB/CPT. I suppose the E2 family could be an option too.
 
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PM wrote:

On the other hand, maybe this tempts some others to try their luck. EK or TK, perhaps?


I doubt about EK. They didn't even try when there seemed no limit to their expansion plans.
TK certainly does seem a good candidate, they are proud to be the airline with the most destinations.

I wonder, so many airlines have their aircraft sitting idle at JNB between two night flights, why doesn't any airline try a tag on to WDH? Lots of Star alliance carriers at JNB, one of them could funnel all pax with WDH as final destination. South African Airways is gone now, they won't carry them any more. And now with SW gone too, there's just Comair left to serve JNB-WDH I think, and they aren't doing great either.

PM wrote:


Thank you for the link. Shocking to read the airline lost less money not flying than actually flying aircraft :crazy: Made the decision to liquidate the airline a no-brainer sadly.


Comair has not returned to regional flying yet, still only domestic within South Africa.

Airlink have taken over and expanding their Namibian connections (always did serve Namibia on some routes before), they're fine to cover it.
Now offering up to 3 daily flights on JNB-WDH, mostly E190, 2 daily CPT-WDH, daily JNB-WVB and just today announced to start CPT-WVB. They have interline agreements in place with most major carriers serving South Africa (or when they return).
 
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Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:29 pm

PM wrote:
SW had one long-haul route - WDH-FRA served with two leased A330-200s. Each plane sat on the ground for 14 hours a day. That's gone and it won't come back.

Their regional operation was a bit scrappy. JNB and CPT made sense (though competition was fierce) but there was little coherent strategy beyond that. That accounted for their four A319s.

Then there was their domestic network. I don't know how profitable that was but flights were often full and somebody should be able to make money on those routes. I'm hopeful that Westair will expand quickly and fill that gap.


I think it's less of a problem that the aircraft sat on the ground for 14 hours but more a function of economies of scale. It's very difficult to successfully run an airline this small, with only 2x A330s and 4x A319s. The fixed costs of the fleet types are high and the fixed costs of running operations in a far away foreign country are also large. Some airlines manage this niche, often due very high yields, lack of competition or generous subsidies. I'm not sure Air Namibia had the first two, and the government lost the appetite for the third.
 
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Re: SW (Air Namibia) Ceases operations; Gov't Seeks to Liquidate

Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:40 pm

grjplanes wrote:
frigatebird wrote:
PM wrote:

On the other hand, maybe this tempts some others to try their luck. EK or TK, perhaps?


I doubt about EK. They didn't even try when there seemed no limit to their expansion plans.
TK certainly does seem a good candidate, they are proud to be the airline with the most destinations.

I wonder, so many airlines have their aircraft sitting idle at JNB between two night flights, why doesn't any airline try a tag on to WDH? Lots of Star alliance carriers at JNB, one of them could funnel all pax with WDH as final destination. South African Airways is gone now, they won't carry them any more. And now with SW gone too, there's just Comair left to serve JNB-WDH I think, and they aren't doing great either.

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Thank you for the link. Shocking to read the airline lost less money not flying than actually flying aircraft :crazy: Made the decision to liquidate the airline a no-brainer sadly.


Comair has not returned to regional flying yet, still only domestic within South Africa.

Airlink have taken over and expanding their Namibian connections (always did serve Namibia on some routes before), they're fine to cover it.
Now offering up to 3 daily flights on JNB-WDH, mostly E190, 2 daily CPT-WDH, daily JNB-WVB and just today announced to start CPT-WVB. They have interline agreements in place with most major carriers serving South Africa (or when they return).


Thank you for updating. Seems Airlink indeed is doing fine now. Unfortunately, they still haven't refunded my flights to Botswana they cancelled last September :banghead:

PM wrote:
AirLink appear to be the regional beneficiary of the turmoil in South Africa and Namibia. Might they find a way in?

And, looking further ahead, wouldn't the A220 be an ideal plane for many of the routes in this region? I had hoped that SW might go in that direction sooner or later. Might AirLink? Westair?!


Airlink has an all Embraer fleet, their largest plane is the E-190. I think they could grow and expand with the E2-195. Both Embraer and lessor Aircastle could be persuaded to give them a very competitive offer IMO.
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Re: SW (Air Namibia) Ceases operations; Gov't Seeks to Liquidate

Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:16 pm

frigatebird wrote:
PM wrote:

On the other hand, maybe this tempts some others to try their luck. EK or TK, perhaps?


I doubt about EK. They didn't even try when there seemed no limit to their expansion plans.
TK certainly does seem a good candidate, they are proud to be the airline with the most destinations.

I wonder, so many airlines have their aircraft sitting idle at JNB between two night flights, why doesn't any airline try a tag on to WDH? Lots of Star alliance carriers at JNB, one of them could funnel all pax with WDH as final destination. South African Airways is gone now, they won't carry them any more. And now with SW gone too, there's just Comair left to serve JNB-WDH I think, and they aren't doing great either.

PM wrote:


Thank you for the link. Shocking to read the airline lost less money not flying than actually flying aircraft :crazy: Made the decision to liquidate the airline a no-brainer sadly.


And Westair, as far as I am aware, is profitable. I do wonder if they might consider slightly larger planes for regional operations (if an E45X comes on the secondhand market, such would be really useful, as that has the range to cover most of southern Africa). The fact that the A319 is probably too large a plane signifies the real need for a jet in the 50-90 seat market with decent range. I also wonder how much of the losses were the result of maintaining that route to FRA.
 
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Re: SW (Air Namibia) Ceases operations; Gov't Seeks to Liquidate

Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:13 am

they could probably get 2 used A330s for far cheaper than they are paying lessors (if they want to keep longhaul); they should mix their flying between FRA and IST (to work with Turkish)

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