SA280 wrote:tphuang wrote:Jungleneer wrote:Geez, chill down.
Here are the numbers:
E195-E2 single class high density: 146 seats
E195-E2 standard single class: 132 seats (KLM has 134 and Azul 136)
https://www.embraercommercialaviation.c ... rcial-jet/
E190-E1 which is the same as E2:
114 seats high density
100 seats typical single class
https://www.embraercommercialaviation.c ... jets/e190/
How do you compare 1 aircraft with 29-30 inch pitch in HD vs another one at 28 inch pitch? It's nonsense. You reduce the first one's pitch down to 28 inch, then you can fit in another 8 seats.
That HD E2-195 configuration is provided by Embraer as a sales pitch config that no airline in the real world will actually use.
Tap, Iberia, Ryanair, Wizz Air. All of them are already used to 28" pitch. And it is a matter of time before other airlines adopt it, at least in European economy class.
There might be no sales ever for the full high-density configuration with 146 seats, but it shows there are intermediate alternatives between Azul's very comfy 136-seats and this high-density one.
And as the A220-300 is certified for maximum 145, depending on the configuration requirements, A220-300's claimed seat cost advantage would eventually disappear or even become worse than the E195-E2.
Just a point of parliamentary procedure, the A220-300 could be certified to 160 at 28". They need a customer.
But currently certified 145:
https://www.airbus.com/aircraft/passeng ... 0-300.html
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... next-level
That said, the E2-195 at 146 seats is a good economic choice.