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Another B777 engine trouble

Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:38 am

https://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaking ... cy-landing
Here we go again. I do not know if it is a PW, yet.
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Re: Another B777 engine trouble

Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:40 am

Another non-story.
Engine issues happen all the time, it's just getting coverage due to it being 777.
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Re: Another B777 engine trouble

Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:58 am

Aquila3 wrote:
https://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaking-news/section/4/166350/Boeing-777-flying-from-HK-makes-Moscow-emergency-landing
Here we go again. I do not know if it is a PW, yet.


This is not likely to be PW as Rossiya don't operate that engine on the 777... the Rossiya fleet is -300s (ex SQ, Trent 892s) and -300ERs (GE90s) as far as I know.
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Re: Another B777 engine trouble

Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:58 am

CWL757 wrote:
Another non-story.
Engine issues happen all the time, it's just getting coverage due to it being 777.

Well, THIS may well be, agree. I made the news, so I think is pertinent.
If it is a PW IFSD , less non story, I would think.
The one over Denver definitely wasn't a non-story, at least according to Boeing, FAA, ...
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Re: Another B777 engine trouble

Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:14 am

Aquila3 wrote:
CWL757 wrote:
Another non-story.
Engine issues happen all the time, it's just getting coverage due to it being 777.

Well, THIS may well be, agree. I made the news, so I think is pertinent.
If it is a PW IFSD , less non story, I would think.
The one over Denver definitely wasn't a non-story, at least according to Boeing, FAA, ...

I think everyone needs to stop sensationalizing these stories. 777 or not, engine issues happen. The 777 is probably the safest wide body airliner out there.

That being said, airframe manufacturers are very different from engine manufacturers. If it’s an engine issue, I think it’s worth mentioning the engine manufacturer, PW, RR, GE.

Aquila3, before posting, please make sure you inform yourself with a bit more information.
 
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Re: Another B777 engine trouble

Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:16 am

Aquila3 wrote:
CWL757 wrote:
Another non-story.
Engine issues happen all the time, it's just getting coverage due to it being 777.

Well, THIS may well be, agree. I made the news, so I think is pertinent.
If it is a PW IFSD , less non story, I would think.
The one over Denver definitely wasn't a non-story, at least according to Boeing, FAA, ...


Yeah but it isn't, because of the RR and GE fleet. Google is your friend.
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Re: Another B777 engine trouble

Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:49 am

Polish press reported 4520 as flight number. FR24 says it's a EI-GET, 773ER. GE engines.

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Re: Another B777 engine trouble

Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:56 am

Over the past years I've become quite a Boeing skeptic but the news reports I've seen about it are complete bullshit. If the PW engines are getting inspected and the Rossiya 77W doesn't have them there's zero connection between the incidents.
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Re: Another B777 engine trouble

Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:10 am

To be honest anything that has to do with Boeing and something not working Somebody will write about it. Boeing gloom gets readers

Anyway here’s a Reuters link:
https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1365 ... 87555?s=21
 
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Re: Another B777 engine trouble

Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:27 am

That's the concequence of operating twins : after an engine IFSD (real or indication), standard operating procedure : land asap.
Operating a twin over the ocean, you're always one engine failure from a total emergency.
 
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Re: Another B777 engine trouble

Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:33 am

More than likely an absolute non-Event. The report mentioned a failure of a FADEC Channel. Not familiar with the 777 systems, but if one channel fails in a dual channel system usually the other channel will take over some or in some cases even all functions of the failed system. That’s the concept of redundancy in system design. I’m surprised that they even passed this information to ATC because it’s unlikely to have any real operational consequences (except possibly the need to fix the problem before the next flight if it’s not deferrable), but maybe somebody with 777 experience can explain the consequences of this failure in more detail.
 
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Re: Another B777 engine trouble

Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:36 am

Aviation Herald shows a slightly different, yet slightly less sensationalistic reality: http://avherald.com/h?article=4e39ad41&opt=0

"Flight plan data show the aircraft was scheduled to land in Sheremetyevo. Radar data show the aircraft remained at cruise FL until top of descent about 140nm east of Moscow and commenced a normal descent into Sheremetyevo."

Doesn't sound like a MAYDAY to me :lol:
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Re: Another B777 engine trouble

Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:47 am

One quick solution to the original poster's conundrum was just to look up the engines on a reliable site like Planespotters. This airline operates 5 777s with Rollers and 5 300ERs, which necessarily have GE90s. The ones with the GEs have a "G" in their tail number. Easy-peasy. No Pratts in sight.

It's remarkable how many people think that everything operated flawlessly when they get where they are going in one piece. They have no idea what did or didn't operate nominally during their flight.

And of course it now turns out that the whole story, except for a reported FADEC channel failure which was of zero consequence, is total bunk. AvHerald nicely picks it apart at the link posted in Airproxx's post directly above.
 
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Re: Another B777 engine trouble

Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:29 pm

CWL757 wrote:
Another non-story.
Engine issues happen all the time, it's just getting coverage due to it being 777.


Exactly. Here we go again....people jump to conclusions too fast. Even before looking it up, I could see from the photo of the aircraft it was a -300 series. If the photo is/was accurate, then no PW engine in sight here. Then the AV Herald story pretty much puts it all to rest; turns out the damn thing was going to Moscow ANYWAY, and there was no Mayday. Phhhhttt.
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Re: Another B777 engine trouble

Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:56 pm

There would be some benefit to incumbent airframe manufacturers to simply change branding every few decades. At least when there were MD problems, the media didn't feel obliged to report on every DC-3 going tech.
 
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Re: Another B777 engine trouble

Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:45 pm

Aquila3 wrote:
I do not know if it is a PW, yet.

Not that it would matter anyway, in this media circus.
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