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Let410 crash in South Sudan kills 10

Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:56 pm

A South Supreme Airlines chartered flight from the Pieri Airstrip to Juba crashed upon takeoff killing the 10 people onboard. The aircraft had a fake Colombian registration as the authorities from South Sudan had not allowed the aircraft to be registered.

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The aircraft with a Gabon registration which was cancelled

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The airline then forged a Colombian registration to try to evade authorities

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Re: Let410 crash in South Sudan kills 10

Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:14 am

More about the mystery registration can be found in this article, quite worthy to read in my opinion:

http://avherald.com/h?article=4e3d11a4&opt=6144
 
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Re: Let410 crash in South Sudan kills 10

Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:17 pm

It looks to still be on airport property, pankaked onto the ground (not much speed). Probably a loading problem, too heavy or too aft CG, maybe an engine problem at the wrong time...
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Re: Let410 crash in South Sudan kills 10

Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:32 pm

Such a sad set of circumstances. Is it normal to have so much soot / oil on the wing just aft of the #1 engine?
 
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Re: Let410 crash in South Sudan kills 10

Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:36 pm

Right location, but you would have expected it to be on the underside of the wing.
 
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Re: Let410 crash in South Sudan kills 10

Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:05 pm

Such an interesting turn of events regarding the fake registrations, non-documented aircraft, new airline with the name of an old defunct airline with no paper trail....

Per AvHerald (link in post #2), it's been updated with a shot of the fake registration in the wreckage as well as reports of a dual engine failure occurring and the flight crashing on return. Aircraft manufacturer and internet sleuths are busy trying to find out what MSN number it is.

So many questions of course, how could the possibility of a fake registration be so easily accepted and apparently well known? Isn't that, you know, illegal? And as for the wreckage, it looks like the aircraft came down with very little forward momentum, yet it seems to be surrounded by smaller debris (garbage?) in a hundred feet radius? Are we seeing the aircraft back on the landing strip, or is this somewhere else entirely?

I'll be surprised if we get full answers out of this one, such a shame. RIP.
 
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Re: Let410 crash in South Sudan kills 10

Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:10 pm

Blankbarcode wrote:
So many questions of course, how could the possibility of a fake registration be so easily accepted and apparently well known? Isn't that, you know, illegal?


Something you should ask the South Sudan Civil Aviation Authority (SSCAA)... :roll: :dollarsign: :dollarsign:
 
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Re: Let410 crash in South Sudan kills 10

Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:13 am

I'm not that educated about registrations, but why would a Turbolet in South Sudan have Columbian registration (even if its fake) when it is a South Sudanese plane?
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Re: Let410 crash in South Sudan kills 10

Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:21 am

Boeing757100 wrote:
I'm not that educated about registrations, but why would a Turbolet in South Sudan have Columbian registration (even if its fake) when it is a South Sudanese plane?

Because it would be harder for South Sudanese authorities to verify than if it were registered somewhere more locally (it appears that the aircraft had previously carried a fake Burundi registration 5Y-DAD, and before that a fake Gabon registration TR-KSS). Does raise the question why after the two fake registrations were unable to be verified, the airline was allowed to continue operating. A sad state of affairs.

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Re: Let410 crash in South Sudan kills 10

Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:05 am

What is the real story of this Let 410? The airline name appears to be one that went defunct years ago. What was its last legitimate registration?
 
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Re: Let410 crash in South Sudan kills 10

Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:17 am

aemoreira1981 wrote:
What is the real story of this Let 410? The airline name appears to be one that went defunct years ago. What was its last legitimate registration?


The gist of the Av Herald article is that nobody really knows. There is so little information, and the aircraft has changed (fake) registrations so many times, that they are struggling to trace it back and identify its MSN and bona fide identity.
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Re: Let410 crash in South Sudan kills 10

Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:44 pm

RyanairGuru wrote:
The gist of the Av Herald article is that nobody really knows. There is so little information, and the aircraft has changed (fake) registrations so many times, that they are struggling to trace it back and identify its MSN and bona fide identity.


True. But the aircraft itself, the engines and other parts will have, hopefully, their serial number in place. So, if the investigation is carried out truthfully, sooner or later the true identity will be discovered.
 
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Re: Let410 crash in South Sudan kills 10

Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:44 am

Aesma wrote:
Probably a loading problem, too heavy or too aft CG, maybe an engine problem at the wrong time...


:checkmark: I doubt that an airline which uses a fake registration pays much attention to the manufacturer specified MTOW. Or CofG calculation. Or the Aircraft Maintenance Manual.
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Re: Let410 crash in South Sudan kills 10

Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:14 am

I believe that the South Sudan CAA doesn't issue it's own CofA's or registrations. Thry recognise and allow operation of foreign registered aircraft and that's it.

I've been to Juba several times, last in 2019. It really is an interesting collections of registrations, some clearly "not quite right". Yemen, Iraq...
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Re: Let410 crash in South Sudan kills 10

Sat Mar 06, 2021 3:38 pm

zkojq wrote:
Aesma wrote:
Probably a loading problem, too heavy or too aft CG, maybe an engine problem at the wrong time...


:checkmark: I doubt that an airline which uses a fake registration pays much attention to the manufacturer specified MTOW. Or CofG calculation. Or the Aircraft Maintenance Manual.

The airline or the pilots?
 
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Re: Let410 crash in South Sudan kills 10

Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:46 pm

So if a plane is showing a registration, (even a clearly false one) then that is OK in South Sudan.

Sounds like the Wild West but with no Sheriff.

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