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Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:35 pm

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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:41 pm

I don't believe I've ever heard of a nose gear collapse on takeoff.

Don't speak spanish, so not sure what the statement says. Anyone who can help?
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:51 pm

Looks like the plane was doing a 180 turn at the end of the runway for takeoff when it happened
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:54 pm

Omg seems very lucky that it didn’t happen when rolling down the runway
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:12 pm

Wow, just falls right off. Wild.
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:23 pm

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Looks like the plane was doing a 180 turn at the end of the runway for takeoff when it happened

If you turn the tiller too far, it will unscrew right off the strut.
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:57 pm

KFLLCFII wrote:
hic787 wrote:
Looks like the plane was doing a 180 turn at the end of the runway for takeoff when it happened

If you turn the tiller too far, it will unscrew right off the strut.


Yep oversteer whilst do a backtrack and lineup, technically not taking off as has been stated by several news sources, “preparing to takeoff/departure” would be more appropriate.
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:07 pm

Is the frame a write off?
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:43 pm

hic787 wrote:
Looks like the plane was doing a 180 turn at the end of the runway for takeoff when it happened


I flew on VB last week PVR-TIJ and for the a.net community not familiar with the current operation at PVR, the airport is currently resurfacing the taxiway leading to the threshold of runway 22. Because of the constructions, planes have to taxi using the actual runway and do a 180 turn on the threshold of runway 22. From the pictures provided looks like the nose gear of XA-VAZ collapsed during this maneuver
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:49 pm

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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:52 pm

KFLLCFII wrote:
If you turn the tiller too far, it will unscrew right off the strut.

It's not possible to "unscrew" the nose wheel by tiller movement. There is a mechanical stop on the tiller, the nose wheel movement is limited. No authority would certify an aircraft that could suffer a nose gear collapse when the tiller is moved.
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:05 am

Flow2706 wrote:
KFLLCFII wrote:
If you turn the tiller too far, it will unscrew right off the strut.

It's not possible to "unscrew" the nose wheel by tiller movement. There is a mechanical stop on the tiller, the nose wheel movement is limited. No authority would certify an aircraft that could suffer a nose gear collapse when the tiller is moved.

During the factory tour, they were lifting the front of the aircraft to screw the wheel assemblies on.
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:07 am

DLASFlyer wrote:
Is the frame a write off?


Well, they DID drive it 'till the wheels fell off.....

:D
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:09 am

KFLLCFII wrote:
Flow2706 wrote:
KFLLCFII wrote:
If you turn the tiller too far, it will unscrew right off the strut.

It's not possible to "unscrew" the nose wheel by tiller movement. There is a mechanical stop on the tiller, the nose wheel movement is limited. No authority would certify an aircraft that could suffer a nose gear collapse when the tiller is moved.

During the factory tour, they were lifting the front of the aircraft to screw the wheel assemblies on.



I have no idea how the nose assembly is attached to the aircraft but I will tell you with 100% certainty that your first comment is totally bogus. There are zero limitations with the nose wheel tiller or notes mentioning that it may fall off of you go too far in the flight manual.
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:16 am

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• Today March 18 2021 at 1:40 p.m., our aircraft XA-VAZ - flight VIV4343 from Puerto Vallarta to Monterrey, was involved in an incident when aligning to the runway prior to takeoff, the nose landing gear collapsed.• All 127 passengers and crew onboard are safe.• All safety protocols were activated immediately, in coordination with aeronautical authorities and the airport administration, guaranteeing the safety of all passengers and crew members at all times.• Viva Aerobus is finding alternatives to protect our passengers on flight VIV4343, so they can travel to their destination as soon as possible.• The aircraft is under review by our engineering teams with the support of the OEMs and the aeronautical authorities.• We are sorry for the inconvenience this incident may have caused. We reaffirm our commitment to safety on each of our flights, as safety is Viva Aerobus’ number one priority.
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:19 am

ikolkyo wrote:
Wow, just falls right off. Wild.


(Senator Collins:)Well, I’m not saying it wasn’t safe, it’s just perhaps not quite as safe as some of the other ones.

(Interviewer:) Why?

(Senator Collins:) Well, some of them are built so the wheel doesn’t fall off at all.

(Interviewer:) Wasn’t this built so the wheel wouldn’t fall off?

(Senator Collins:) Well, obviously not.

(Interviewer:) “How do you know?”

(Senator Collins:) Well, ‘cause the wheel fell off
....
(Interviewer:) But Senator Collins, why did the wheel fall off?

(Senator Collins:) Well, the pilot did a turn.
....
(Interviewer:) Is that unusual?

(Senator Collins:) Oh, yeah… on a taxiway? …Chance in a million
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:29 am

KFLLCFII wrote:
Flow2706 wrote:
KFLLCFII wrote:
If you turn the tiller too far, it will unscrew right off the strut.

It's not possible to "unscrew" the nose wheel by tiller movement. There is a mechanical stop on the tiller, the nose wheel movement is limited. No authority would certify an aircraft that could suffer a nose gear collapse when the tiller is moved.

During the factory tour, they were lifting the front of the aircraft to screw the wheel assemblies on.

Darn, and I thought you were kidding...
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:19 am

Not a good week for A320 nose gears. I wonder if this gear failed at 90 degrees before sheering of since the A320 has a failure mode where the gear turns sideways

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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:25 am

Flow2706 wrote:
KFLLCFII wrote:
If you turn the tiller too far, it will unscrew right off the strut.

It's not possible to "unscrew" the nose wheel by tiller movement. There is a mechanical stop on the tiller, the nose wheel movement is limited. No authority would certify an aircraft that could suffer a nose gear collapse when the tiller is moved.


I guess the joke flew right over, huh --> :duck:
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:03 am

I was on UA flt 304 IAH-PVR. Just about 1/2 way we returned to IAH as when the flight was dispatched it was understood the runway would be cleared.

All crew amazing. Can’t get upset about this.

OTOH. UA could not issue a refund from being downgraded from a revenue F fare to Y tomorrow morning.I either have to call or email. I was given a $75 travel voucher. Paid hotel and $40 in meal vouchers. They were not obligated to do this

Just the hassle of a refund
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:07 am

Picture posted by PVR as they work to restore airfield operations

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ewz3ZWjW8AE ... name=large
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:22 am

LAXintl wrote:
Picture posted by PVR as they work to restore airfield operations

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ewz3ZWjW8AE ... name=large

Yeesh, that’s gonna be a spendy repair.
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:50 am

Spacepope wrote:
LAXintl wrote:
Picture posted by PVR as they work to restore airfield operations

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ewz3ZWjW8AE ... name=large

Yeesh, that’s gonna be a spendy repair.

Cue the obligatory: is it a write-off?
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:57 am

The runway has reopened.
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:29 am

Some speedtape and it will be fine !

It'll buff right out !
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:29 am

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Some speedtape and it will be fine !

It'll buff right out !

They better stock up on speed tape then, seems to keep happening
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:48 am

LAXintl wrote:
Picture posted by PVR as they work to restore airfield operations

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ewz3ZWjW8AE ... name=large

Ummm... it isn’t supposed to fail like that.....
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:54 am

Nose gear doesn't seem to be an A320 strong point.
 
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Tue Mar 23, 2021 7:06 am

LimaFoxTango wrote:
I guess the joke flew right over, huh -->


Impossible, it never took off :D
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Tue Mar 23, 2021 7:29 am

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LAXintl wrote:
Picture posted by PVR as they work to restore airfield operations

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ewz3ZWjW8AE ... name=large

Ummm... it isn’t supposed to fail like that.....


Gotta be careful on those left turns, the nose gear is left hand thread so when they turned sharply they unscrewed the nose gear! :lol:
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:44 am

Ouch! Glad no one was hurt.

Hardly superficial damage, but I suspect the aircraft will return to service.
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:02 pm

UA748i wrote:
Ouch! Glad no one was hurt.

Hardly superficial damage, but I suspect the aircraft will return to service.

There’s some better discussion on another site on this.

One report is that the pilots applied a lot of thrust after the wheels fell off toco tinge the turn, since they noticed steering had become, um, problematic. This is when the remaining g gear parts dug in. The continued movement happened as the gear structure tried to tear itself free of the fuselage.

Scuttlebutt is there is a lot of structural damage up in the gear Bay Area (and of course all the fuselage creasing we see here) and this airframe maybe a goner.
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:09 pm

@ Spacepope can you edit your sentence, it's not clear (toco tinge ?).

Was the main gear stuck or the nose gear ? Did they exit the pavement ?

Time for enveloppe protections for taxiing ?
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:44 pm

Aesma wrote:
@ Spacepope can you edit your sentence, it's not clear (toco tinge ?).

Was the main gear stuck or the nose gear ? Did they exit the pavement ?

Time for enveloppe protections for taxiing ?


Too late. Sorry, was typing on an ipad this morning and sometimes this site doesn't play nice. Apparently "Toco tinge" is autocorrect for "during".

The remains of the nose gear was the one that was stuck (like, literally, in the pavement)
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:59 pm

OK I get it. Both nose wheels failing is surprising though. Trying to taxi once that happened, yeah, not a great idea !
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Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:44 pm

DLASFlyer wrote:
Is the frame a write off?


It most probably is, LN 2576., mfd. 03.10.2005. It is the 2nd oldest frame in the fleet. Right now, many frames are grounded, no worries this is one stays forever in PVR. It's gonna be a good aircraft for parts!

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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Tue Mar 23, 2021 7:53 pm

Aesma wrote:
OK I get it. Both nose wheels failing is surprising though. Trying to taxi once that happened, yeah, not a great idea !

Yes, several Mexican Aviation posts indicated passengers reported the aircraft exited the runway to the grass and came back to the runway when doing the 180 turn.
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:53 pm

OK, now we have the full picture and it exonerates the aircraft. Putting the tiny nose gear in grass is not a good idea.
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Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:02 am

Aesma wrote:
OK, now we have the full picture and it exonerates the aircraft. Putting the tiny nose gear in grass is not a good idea.


Possibly. Need to see what an investigation says. Could be an MX issue coupled with circumstance. Could just be the situation or something else.
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Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:17 am

santi319 wrote:
Aesma wrote:
OK I get it. Both nose wheels failing is surprising though. Trying to taxi once that happened, yeah, not a great idea !

Yes, several Mexican Aviation posts indicated passengers reported the aircraft exited the runway to the grass and came back to the runway when doing the 180 turn.


The photos don't show the nose anywhere near the grass and if it had been on the grass, surely there would be a dirt trail on the runway to the point of the failure.
 
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Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:38 am

LTEN11 wrote:
santi319 wrote:
Aesma wrote:
OK I get it. Both nose wheels failing is surprising though. Trying to taxi once that happened, yeah, not a great idea !

Yes, several Mexican Aviation posts indicated passengers reported the aircraft exited the runway to the grass and came back to the runway when doing the 180 turn.


The photos don't show the nose anywhere near the grass and if it had been on the grass, surely there would be a dirt trail on the runway to the point of the failure.


https://twitter.com/pilotshopmexico/sta ... 39140?s=21

Several passengers said the plane left the runway and came back. There is construction in PVR and most aircraft are backtracking in the runway and doing a 180 for take off. Seems very plausible.
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:45 am

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LTEN11 wrote:
santi319 wrote:
Yes, several Mexican Aviation posts indicated passengers reported the aircraft exited the runway to the grass and came back to the runway when doing the 180 turn.


The photos don't show the nose anywhere near the grass and if it had been on the grass, surely there would be a dirt trail on the runway to the point of the failure.


https://twitter.com/pilotshopmexico/sta ... 39140?s=21

Several passengers said the plane left the runway and came back. There is construction in PVR and most aircraft are backtracking in the runway and doing a 180 for take off. Seems very plausible.


Sure it sounds plausible, but the photographic evidence really doesn't support it.
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:48 pm

LTEN11 wrote:
santi319 wrote:
Aesma wrote:
OK I get it. Both nose wheels failing is surprising though. Trying to taxi once that happened, yeah, not a great idea !

Yes, several Mexican Aviation posts indicated passengers reported the aircraft exited the runway to the grass and came back to the runway when doing the 180 turn.


The photos don't show the nose anywhere near the grass and if it had been on the grass, surely there would be a dirt trail on the runway to the point of the failure.

If the grass and soil are dry, there would not necessarily be dirt on the wheels: think about sand, you can drive on it, have no sand left on your tires (it would actually clean them) yet could damage your wheels/axles/suspension.

We don't see the area surrounding the point of u-turn; there might very well be evidence of the plane leaving the hard surface.
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:31 pm

WayexTDI wrote:
LTEN11 wrote:
santi319 wrote:
Yes, several Mexican Aviation posts indicated passengers reported the aircraft exited the runway to the grass and came back to the runway when doing the 180 turn.


The photos don't show the nose anywhere near the grass and if it had been on the grass, surely there would be a dirt trail on the runway to the point of the failure.

If the grass and soil are dry, there would not necessarily be dirt on the wheels: think about sand, you can drive on it, have no sand left on your tires (it would actually clean them) yet could damage your wheels/axles/suspension.

We don't see the area surrounding the point of u-turn; there might very well be evidence of the plane leaving the hard surface.


Definitely possible. I think the point is that some are declaring this to be the definitive cause - we don't have enough information to say for sure.

Could be a combination of factors too.
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:32 pm

They might have dragged it for some distance before it broke completely.
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:18 pm

WayexTDI wrote:
LTEN11 wrote:
santi319 wrote:
Yes, several Mexican Aviation posts indicated passengers reported the aircraft exited the runway to the grass and came back to the runway when doing the 180 turn.


The photos don't show the nose anywhere near the grass and if it had been on the grass, surely there would be a dirt trail on the runway to the point of the failure.

If the grass and soil are dry, there would not necessarily be dirt on the wheels: think about sand, you can drive on it, have no sand left on your tires (it would actually clean them) yet could damage your wheels/axles/suspension.

We don't see the area surrounding the point of u-turn; there might very well be evidence of the plane leaving the hard surface.


It would be very strange for an airplane to be doing a 180 prior to takeoff since PVR has a full length taxiway, but I guess stranger things have happened.
 
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Re: Viva Aerobus A320 nose gear collapse at PVR

Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:04 am

Weatherwatcher1 wrote:
WayexTDI wrote:
LTEN11 wrote:

The photos don't show the nose anywhere near the grass and if it had been on the grass, surely there would be a dirt trail on the runway to the point of the failure.

If the grass and soil are dry, there would not necessarily be dirt on the wheels: think about sand, you can drive on it, have no sand left on your tires (it would actually clean them) yet could damage your wheels/axles/suspension.

We don't see the area surrounding the point of u-turn; there might very well be evidence of the plane leaving the hard surface.


It would be very strange for an airplane to be doing a 180 prior to takeoff since PVR has a full length taxiway, but I guess stranger things have happened.


The Taxiways are closed. NOTAM below

A0617/21 - MMPR (Mexico): Taxiway(s) Closed

AERODROME

Period: 2021-02-09T12:00:00.000Z - 2021-04-11T12:00:00.000Z

Q-Code (MXLC): AGAMovement and landing areaTaxiway(s)ClosedLimitations

TWY A BTN TWY G AND THR RWY 22 CLSD CREATED: 06 Feb 2021 00:55:00 SOURCE: MMMXYNYX
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