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Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:56 pm

Titan's first A321neo has been repainted having been delivered all-black.

It now wears the same livery as the 'Boris' A330.

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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:07 pm

Looks good, I wonder if their 2nd A321NX will end up the same. Good replacements for the statesmen that are being retired.
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:36 pm

Looks bloody awful if you asks me .Suppose this is the replacement for the whisperjets, or have they actually found the cost of the Voyager prohibitive and that it’s needed for its primary role in the quiet spring offensive going on in Syria and Iraq right now ?

That golden font is atrocious from a graphic design perspective
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:51 pm

rutankrd wrote:
Looks bloody awful if you asks me .Suppose this is the replacement for the whisperjets, or have they actually found the cost of the Voyager prohibitive and that it’s needed for its primary role in the quiet spring offensive going on in Syria and Iraq right now ?

That golden font is atrocious from a graphic design perspective


Agree. Hideous.

The tail looks like a comic book.
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:19 pm

Looking good.
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:54 pm

I see the MRTT on FR24 out tanking over the North Sea most of the time. I did and still do wonder why the government even need it ? Something A321 sized is probably plenty though. Can we expect a NATO grey respray for the A330 anytime soon ? ;-)
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:57 pm

It's a terrible livery. Embarrassing that's all they could come up with. Its like its come from the same place as United's
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:41 pm

A320B737NGCapt wrote:
Looks good, I wonder if their 2nd A321NX will end up the same.

So it is not this then..... :?:

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JannEejit wrote:
I see the MRTT on FR24 out tanking over the North Sea most of the time. I did and still do wonder why the government even need it ? Something A321 sized is probably plenty though. Can we expect a NATO grey respray for the A330 anytime soon ?

rutankrd wrote:
Suppose this is the replacement for the whisperjets, or have they actually found the cost of the Voyager prohibitive and that it’s needed for its primary role in the quiet spring offensive going on in Syria and Iraq right now ?

Probably...they likely wanted something quick and the thing was not busy at the time. This Titan bird came at an opportune moment and possibly at a very favorable deal too. Guess I'm done harping about the Ministry's parsimonious habits! :twocents: Now, about that livery..... :scratchchin:
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:46 pm

I always felt the A330 was a bad adaptation of the earlier French effort, which I am already not very fond of. It is even worst on the A321.

Bad taste as its earnest.
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:33 pm

Devilfish wrote:
A320B737NGCapt wrote:
Looks good, I wonder if their 2nd A321NX will end up the same.

So it is not this then..... :?:

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JannEejit wrote:
I see the MRTT on FR24 out tanking over the North Sea most of the time. I did and still do wonder why the government even need it ? Something A321 sized is probably plenty though. Can we expect a NATO grey respray for the A330 anytime soon ?

rutankrd wrote:
Suppose this is the replacement for the whisperjets, or have they actually found the cost of the Voyager prohibitive and that it’s needed for its primary role in the quiet spring offensive going on in Syria and Iraq right now ?

Probably...they likely wanted something quick and the thing was not busy at the time. This Titan bird came at an opportune moment and possibly at a very favorable deal too. Guess I'm done harping about the Ministry's parsimonious habits! :twocents: Now, about that livery..... :scratchchin:


Well MSN 10238 G-OATW (now to be G-GBNI) was supposed to be painted in black the same as MSN 10150 G-XATW, but it’s white and a new reg that resembles Great Britain and Northern Island. Let’s just wait and see how this pans out.
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:24 pm

BTW, have they come up with a name for this bird :?: BRITANNIA is hard to beat imho..... :spin:

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Wonder if RAF Northolt's and HLE's runways are long enough for a nonstop excursion by a sparsely configured A321LR to there and back? :scratchchin: Titan's pilots did practice runs at HLE with a 752 last year, though 32 Sqn pilots would likely be in command just in case. As to the purpose of such a flight -- there might be somebody they would want to exile there! :flamed:

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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:19 am

Shame, this was printed all black (like the TAG 757 used to look) on delivery and it looked great! I believe the original plan was to operate it on behalf of TCS etc. Waste of black paint.
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:39 am

A320B737NGCapt wrote:
Looks good.


Looks absolutely hideous.

There, I fixed that for you.

:duck:
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:39 am

JannEejit wrote:
I see the MRTT on FR24 out tanking over the North Sea most of the time. I did and still do wonder why the government even need it ? Something A321 sized is probably plenty though. Can we expect a NATO grey respray for the A330 anytime soon ? ;-)


I guess Covid 19 has put an end to big royal and governmental trips to far flung places for now and so there is not anywhere the need for an A330 at the moment as there might have been in a more typical year.
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:56 am

A lot of the ex -Monarch A330 Air Tanker pilots I know were unfortunately made redundant due the Covid fiasco while a lot of the Titan pilots have thankfully kept their jobs and have been doing some flying.
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:09 am

I wonder wha the configuration of these is? They seem to have deactivated the forward pair of overwing exits and the L/R2 doors. Cant be more than 156?
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:39 am

Pretty sure this was originally configured for TCS flying tours around the world.
Configured around 56 business seats, unsure if they were the lie flat type tho’ but expect they were.

EDIT....

A little research on the Titan website, and TCS website shows that when TCS used the 757, it was in a 12 row 48 seat 180* lie flat seat.
I suspect this 321 may be similar, but will also include the club seating that Titan offers on their 318.

Nothing definite, but you can work it out from what Titan has previously offered and what the UK Govt requirements would be.

As for the scheme....

5/10... could do better.!
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:49 am

Devilfish wrote:
BTW, have they come up with a name for this bird :?: BRITANNIA is hard to beat imho..... :spin:

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Wonder if RAF Northolt's and HLE's runways are long enough for a nonstop excursion by a sparsely configured A321LR to there and back? :scratchchin: Titan's pilots did practice runs at HLE with a 752 last year, though 32 Sqn pilots would likely be in command just in case. As to the purpose of such a flight -- there might be somebody they would want to exile there! :flamed:

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=NHT-HLE&MS=wls&DU=nm


Livery looks ok but a bit like a cheap low-cost airline. RAF colours look a lot nicer. A321neo is fine operating into HLE but Northolt would be a push at less than 1700m runway. Anybody seen a 737 or A320 land at Northolt?
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:51 am

737’s at NHT yes... US forces...
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:57 am

TUGMASTER wrote:
737’s at NHT yes... US forces...


Yikes I bet thrust reverse was in overdrive on that landing. Fair to say the A321neo could probably do it but with no passengers or cargo - and certainly not on a flight to HLE!!
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:09 pm

JannEejit wrote:
I see the MRTT on FR24 out tanking over the North Sea most of the time. I did and still do wonder why the government even need it ? Something A321 sized is probably plenty though. Can we expect a NATO grey respray for the A330 anytime soon ? ;-)


The MRTT is used from everything from personnel transport, A2R refuelling - to humanitarian missions and the RAF have 14 of them. The sole GB-liveried one is used extensively by government ministers (20+ of them of which they could be travelling individually or with support staff and aides) and Royal family members (typically 25+ of them could request use) full time and is barely ever out of use such is the demand for it (and that's during Covid!). Hence the addition of the A321neo is to supplement the demand for the same use.
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:13 pm

LX138 wrote:
Livery looks ok but a bit like a cheap low-cost airline. RAF colours look a lot nicer. A321neo is fine operating into HLE but Northolt would be a push at less than 1700m runway. Anybody seen a 737 or A320 land at Northolt?


C-17s come into Northolt quite regularly (an RAF one was in last last week)
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:17 pm

vhtje wrote:
A320B737NGCapt wrote:
Looks good.


Looks absolutely hideous.

There, I fixed that for you.

:duck:


Yes. God forbid anyone have a different opinion.
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:53 pm

vhtje wrote:
A320B737NGCapt wrote:
Looks good.


Looks absolutely hideous.

There, I fixed that for you.

:duck:


Haha, thanks vhjte.
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:25 pm

vhtje wrote:
A320B737NGCapt wrote:
Looks good.


Looks absolutely hideous.

There, I fixed that for you.

:duck:


Austin Powers would certainly dig it.
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:30 pm

sevenair wrote:
God forbid anyone have a different opinion.

Well, this former 32 Sqn bird has a more agreeable livery now than what Vespina is wearing (to my eyes, at least)... :smile: ...

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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:33 pm

LX138 wrote:
The sole GB-liveried one is used extensively by government ministers (20+ of them of which they could be travelling individually or with support staff and aides) and Royal family members (typically 25+ of them could request use) full time and is barely ever out of use such is the demand for it (and that's during Covid!).


Err what? The last time ZZ336 was used for non-tanking ops was back in January 2021 on a trip to Athens.

Normally it's trailling hoses up and down the AARs on a TARTAN callsign.
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:46 pm

11C wrote:
Austin Powers would certainly dig it.

I bet he would..... :bigthumbsup:

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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:15 pm

sevenair wrote:
vhtje wrote:
A320B737NGCapt wrote:
Looks good.


Looks absolutely hideous.

There, I fixed that for you.

:duck:


Yes. God forbid anyone have a different opinion.


Lighten up, it was a joke. Even the OP wasn't offended.
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:28 pm

Devilfish wrote:
sevenair wrote:
God forbid anyone have a different opinion.

Well, this former 32 Sqn bird has a more agreeable livery now than what Vespina is wearing (to my eyes, at least)... :smile: ...



That aircraft has never been a 32 SQN aircraft.
It's been a Peltia Air Service / Indonesian Government aircraft since it was delivered.
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:39 pm

ZE702 became PK-OSP then PK-TNV currently operated by Transnusa
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:08 pm

Remember that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I love the livery!
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:39 pm

Very nice.
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:44 pm

GCT64 wrote:
That aircraft has never been a 32 SQN aircraft.

Yes, my bad. I immediately thought it was without checking that it's an Avro RJ85. :banghead:

fcogafa wrote:
ZE702 became PK-OSP then PK-TNV currently operated by Transnusa

This aircraft then.....

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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:55 pm

Devilfish wrote:
11C wrote:
Austin Powers would certainly dig it.

I bet he would..... :bigthumbsup:

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Yeah! There he is!
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:25 pm

Devilfish wrote:
GCT64 wrote:
That aircraft has never been a 32 SQN aircraft.

Yes, my bad. I immediately thought it was without checking that it's an Avro RJ85. :banghead:

fcogafa wrote:
ZE702 became PK-OSP then PK-TNV currently operated by Transnusa

This aircraft then.....



Yes, it still has the previous RAF cheat line in those photos
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:40 pm

TUGMASTER wrote:
Pretty sure this was originally configured for TCS flying tours around the world.
Configured around 56 business seats, unsure if they were the lie flat type tho’ but expect they were.


G-XATW was recently equipped with "150 sets of wireless IFE tablets" and the picture shown looks more like Economy, than Business... :scratchchin:
https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/t ... 40.article

Btw. what aircraft will do the TCS World Travel flights?!
 
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Re: Titan A321neo ops for UK government

Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:06 pm

debonair wrote:
TUGMASTER wrote:
Pretty sure this was originally configured for TCS flying tours around the world.
Configured around 56 business seats, unsure if they were the lie flat type tho’ but expect they were.


G-XATW was recently equipped with "150 sets of wireless IFE tablets" and the picture shown looks more like Economy, than Business... :scratchchin:
https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/t ... 40.article

Btw. what aircraft will do the TCS World Travel flights?!

That image is a rendering from the system’s OEM, not a picture of the fitted aircraft.

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