gwrudolph wrote:ContinentalEWR wrote:PSA727 wrote:There was no code-sharing between AA and B6 in their previous agreement. There was no schedule co-ordinating under that agreement. There were just a small set of B6 city pairs which one could earn 500 AAdvantage miles for flying and book on AA's website (under the B6 code). That's it. No mileage redemption. No recipricol FFer benefits on the other carrier. Moreover, if AA wasn't interested in B6's domestic connection feed at JFK with this new agreement, why did they announce last week that there will be an airside connector bus between T-8 and T-5?
But let's look at PHL's TATL record. Prior to 2020, AA operated 8 year-round TATL flights out of PHL: LHR, DUB, AMS, CDG, FCO, ZRH, MAD, and MAN. While it operated 5 year-round flights out of JFK: LHR, CDG, MAD, MXP, and BCN. Now, it appears that PHL-MAN is gone for good. So that leaves 7 versus 5. But what if AMS and ZRH get switched over to JFK, as many think might happen? That makes it JFK - 7 and PHL - 5. Now let's look at PHL's TATL failures...
PHL-MXP operated for a couple of years about a decade ago. Year-round service at JFK.
PHL-MUC...shifted over to CLT.
* (And BTW, if they couldn't make PHL-FRA/MUC work, why would they add something like PHL-DUS/HAM/STR with the 321XLR?)
PHL-TLV... gone. But JFK-TLV starts in a couple of months.
Also, if PHL was the whole shebang for TATL service in AA's network, why did they plan on starting service to Krakow last year from ORD and not PHL? There are plenty of flights between PHL and ORD that they could have connected passengers onto.
Agreed on the 2000s B6/AA agreement involving JFK, but some things to note. PHL-MXP was never operated by AA. It briefly ran as a US route long before the merger, and didn't do well and was axed after 1 season. Also, I never suggested PHL-DUS/HAM/STR would work or would be added with the 321XLR. AA does very poorly to Germany and largely due to low POS on the German end. I can see ZRH going back up to JFK where it came from (it was a legacy AA route, but US also operated it from PHL as well for a time before the merger). AMS, I am not so sure. DL/KLM and UA at EWR largely have the market covered but on a 321XLR, yes, JFK-AMS could work for AA. B6 has also signaled it wants to fly to AMS once it gets LON up and running.
I agree. AA Germany example is not a good example. With Star Alliance stronghold there, AA never did well in Germany even pre-merger. At one point prior to the merger, I believe they may have completely pulled out of FRA and MUC. SA makes it tough
I believe pre-merger, AA maintained DFW-FRA but had no service to MUC after it was dropped from the AA route map.