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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:50 pm

cosyr wrote:
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kngkyle wrote:
I booked three June flights today before the schedule got updated (for Newark at least) and all of them ended up getting slightly changed (thankfully no issues). Looking now, the price for each of them shot up by $100-$300. Timed that right it seems.


Part of that is just how the booking engine handles new flights showing up. Usually the fare buckets are not completely loaded at the same time as the schedule gets pushed out. Those high fares just reflect the system figuring out what’s going on. I have noticed this on every legacy carrier for years, it takes a day or two for the fares to get updated.

I really hope that's the case, because flights I've been looking at to CUN just jumped from around $800 r/t to $3500 for the last week of June! I had hoped that $800 was unrealistic and would come down to $500-600.

Maybe, maybe not. Depends. As they consolidate flights, capacity is reduced and fares go up. Cancun flights were already booked pretty solidly. If they took one out, that will definitely drive up fares. Keep an eye on it.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:57 pm

I’d say the schedule is still being updated for some cities/markets. Example... there’s a 1600 departure on MSY-DEN on a 739, but the only inbound 739 that could make up that flight arrives MSY at 1605. Indeed the times on MSY-DEN look like the dummy schedule times as of June 3. But that’s just a small example. It’s probably 80-90% done, just some adjustments here and there.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:19 pm

The DEN-LHR and DEN-FRA stuck out for me, too.

I wonder if 9x DEN-IAH, 10x ORD-IAH, 10x LAX-IAH will stick.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:25 pm

adamblang wrote:
The DEN-LHR and DEN-FRA stuck out for me, too.

I wonder if 9x DEN-IAH, 10x ORD-IAH, 10x LAX-IAH will stick.


The longhaul isn’t accurate.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:34 pm

adamblang wrote:
The DEN-LHR and DEN-FRA stuck out for me, too.

I wonder if 9x DEN-IAH, 10x ORD-IAH, 10x LAX-IAH will stick.


DEN-FRA is running DEN-LHR is not.. I think the domestic routes you mentioned will get trimmed a bit too
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:37 pm

SunsetLimited wrote:
I’d say the schedule is still being updated for some cities/markets. Example... there’s a 1600 departure on MSY-DEN on a 739, but the only inbound 739 that could make up that flight arrives MSY at 1605. Indeed the times on MSY-DEN look like the dummy schedule times as of June 3. But that’s just a small example. It’s probably 80-90% done, just some adjustments here and there.

The departure and arrival times on their June schedule are the exact same as their placeholder schedule, so I think the departure and arrival times that are currently showing for their June schedule are still not yet accurate. However, at least we have a solid idea of how many flights per day will be flown on each route.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:56 pm

adamblang wrote:
The DEN-LHR and DEN-FRA stuck out for me, too.

I wonder if 9x DEN-IAH, 10x ORD-IAH, 10x LAX-IAH will stick.

They are running 8x IAH-ORD, 9x DEN-IAH in May so it's very likely to stick. LAX-IAH might see a reduction.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:44 pm

Golfmikey wrote:
adamblang wrote:
The DEN-LHR and DEN-FRA stuck out for me, too.

I wonder if 9x DEN-IAH, 10x ORD-IAH, 10x LAX-IAH will stick.


DEN-FRA is running DEN-LHR is not.. I think the domestic routes you mentioned will get trimmed a bit too



United on Thursday - Monday is already running 9x daily DEN-IAH, and 8x daily ORD-IAH in April, while IAH-LAX is only 6x daily Friday - Monday in April.

United is not cutting DEN-IAH, or ORD-IAH in June. LAX-IAH might get trimmed back to 8x daily Friday - Monday and 7x or 6x daily Tuesday - Thursday.

SFO-IAH is showing 8x daily on certain days so I don't see LAX dropping to far below SFO I think LAX will settle around 8x daily the same as SFO.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:04 pm

Does anybody have numbers on how many E-175's had seats removed down to only 70 seats vs 76? Also, with mainline picking back up, are seats being added back to the 175's yet in time for the busy summer season?

Thanks ahead of time!
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:20 pm

joeljack wrote:
Does anybody have numbers on how many E-175's had seats removed down to only 70 seats vs 76? Also, with mainline picking back up, are seats being added back to the 175's yet in time for the busy summer season?

Thanks ahead of time!


I’m unsure on numbers, but to answer your other question, yes, seats are being added back. Since pilot hiring has resumed the section of the LOA where that applies has been suspended. I’m not sure how long it will take to get all the seats back in, but I think it would be relatively quick.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:42 pm

UA EWR June is very interesting. Right now I’m seeing over 20 longhaul flights each day and almost 60 intl departures. It’s funny to me how they see money on these flights but aren’t bringing back many short haul destinations.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:20 pm

I see DEN-NRT in the June schedule on the 788. All other 788 flights I've found are out of ORD, and I don't see a bridge flight between ORD and DEN (and there are no other 788 flights to NRT that I've found...). Is there a cargo-only flight that serves to bridge the aircraft to DEN, or do we think DEN-NRT will probably be pulled in the coming weeks (or perhaps the ORD-DEN schedule will be further updated)? It's not like a U.S. Legacy to dedicate a handful of long haul aircraft to a single hub without building the schedule to allow them to rotate to other hubs/maintenance bases.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:40 pm

FSDan wrote:
I see DEN-NRT in the June schedule on the 788. All other 788 flights I've found are out of ORD, and I don't see a bridge flight between ORD and DEN (and there are no other 788 flights to NRT that I've found...). Is there a cargo-only flight that serves to bridge the aircraft to DEN, or do we think DEN-NRT will probably be pulled in the coming weeks (or perhaps the ORD-DEN schedule will be further updated)? It's not like a U.S. Legacy to dedicate a handful of long haul aircraft to a single hub without building the schedule to allow them to rotate to other hubs/maintenance bases.


Actually, I just looked at the schedules for a random outstation (RNO) and the June schedules are definitely not done being ironed out. Even just at that one simple station there are multiple turns that are way shorter than what UA actually schedules (15 minutes for a CR7, 26 minutes for a 320).
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:05 am

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UA EWR June is very interesting. Right now I’m seeing over 20 longhaul flights each day and almost 60 intl departures. It’s funny to me how they see money on these flights but aren’t bringing back many short haul destinations.


In April United (it does vary from day to day) operates 12-13 passenger section long haul flights mainly to European destinations but that number also include NRT and GRU out of EWR. United also operates I believe 3 or 4 destinations as cargo only fight/destinations out of EWR primarily to European destinations although we we do still operate cargo only flights EWR-NRT/FRA/ but those are not included in my cargo only count.

Short haul which includes Caribbean, Latin/Central America, and Mexico again on peak travel days United in April is operating around 25-38 daily (again varies from day to day) nonstops out of EWR to various destinations across these regions.

We saw UA do this in 2020 where during the fall, winter, and spring months some long haul destinations operated as cargo only but then transitioned over to passenger sections during the summer of 2020. For the most part this all that is taking place for summer 2021 with the addition of a few more European destinations added in for summer 2021 when compared to summer 2020. So instead of operating certain long haul routes out of EWR as cargo only routes UA will open up the routes to passengers.

Looking at the short haul international schedule United is simply responding to the O&D demand for travel out of NYC to vacation destinations. Are New Yorker's looking to go to OMA (just using it as an example)? Judging by today's schedule out of EWR, LGA, and JFK I would say no. There isn't a single carrier (not AA, DL, NK, F9, WN, B6 or any one else) operating this route right now. But there are plenty of New Yorker's looking to escape to vacation destinations which is where United has either already added capacity in April and May and/or will add capacity in June.

If your comments are based off the schedule posted above by another poster, that schedule is not an accurate passenger schedule at all. United has no passenger schedule flights operating on June 18th to HKG or PEK nonstop from the US. All flights to PEK and HKG are cargo only and operate via NRT and will remain cargo only flights in June. Another quick glance revealed IAH-NRT this routes does not resume in June as a passenger service flight. Sometimes you have to really look at the cargo schedule and make sure you're looking at a nonstop flight and not a 1-stop flight or a cargo only flight that doesn't exist as a passenger service flight.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:49 am

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I’m really surprised no EWR-GSP/GSO/SDF/MEM at all yet.



I’m not sure why that’s a surprise. Memphis has some leisure traffic due to blues music, Graceland etc, but there is no significant leisure market to talk about in Greensboro, NC, Greenville, SC, or Louisville, KY. There will be some VFR traffic, but those markets out of EWR predominantly serve the local O&D business market and international connections. That is the last traffic that will come back. Domestic connections to those markets are better served by ORD/IAH/IAD.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:42 am

Makes sense that cargo-only flights would be showing up on unitedcargo.com. :D
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:40 am

In EWR starting June 1 ( I believe ) one of the main runways closes for work until Oct 1 so there will be a reduced schedule
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:47 am

I realize this is a personal anecdote, but I have countless US citizen friends living in Europe who are finally plotting trips home to family or to get vaccinated through the summer. I'm sure there's a bit of pent up demand coming even if the borders don't fully ease.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:14 am

Storage Update:
N68880 (Boeing 737-900ER) is scheduled to ferry from CLE to IAH (UA2719/16) for heavy maintenance before re-entering service.

Maintenance Update:
N468UA (Airbus 320) is scheduled to ferry from IAH to LCQ (UA2754/16) for heavy maintenance.
N483UA (Airbus 320) is scheduled to ferry from LCQ to IAH (UA2755/16) after heavy maintenance.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:20 am

30west wrote:
In EWR starting June 1 ( I believe ) one of the main runways closes for work until Oct 1 so there will be a reduced schedule


This is just a weak excuse. I don’t think if we were outside of Covid times UA would have to reduce their footprint at EWR by 50% for runway construction especially when most other carriers are down too.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:19 am

Scarebus34 wrote:
adamblang wrote:
The DEN-LHR and DEN-FRA stuck out for me, too.

I wonder if 9x DEN-IAH, 10x ORD-IAH, 10x LAX-IAH will stick.

They are running 8x IAH-ORD, 9x DEN-IAH in May so it's very likely to stick. LAX-IAH might see a reduction.


IAH-LAX is going to get awfully crowded if UA is 10x. AA is 4x, NK is 3x, DL is 2x, and that's not including WN on HOU-LAX.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:01 am

Yesterday, around 9:40 AM, UA219 bound for HNL on N656UA and UA202 bound for Maui on N642UA, made contact at the wingtips after the pushback was complete. Both flights were delayed 400+ minutes while equipment was swapped.

While the severity of the damage is unknown, N642UA and N656UA may be out of service for a bit of time while repairs are made.
 
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Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:17 am

ChaseP wrote:
Yesterday, around 9:40 AM, UA219 bound for HNL on N656UA and UA202 bound for Maui on N642UA, made contact at the wingtips after the pushback was complete. Both flights were delayed 400+ minutes while equipment was swapped.

While the severity of the damage is unknown, 6N42UA and N656UA may be out of service for a bit of time while repairs are made.

According to FR24, N642UA will be back in service on Friday, and N656UA will be back in service on Saturday:

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n642ua

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n656ua
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:20 pm

787-8 Polaris/PE:
N26902 sked to exit XMN 2737/17Apr with Polaris/PP
N27903 sked to enter XMN 2735/17Apr for Polaris/PP
3 in XMN mod, N27901 should exit soon - expecting N45905 (currently in SFO for some type of damage repair) the last non-Polaris would then enter mod.
It's reasonable to believe UA has flown its last Diamond seated 788 revenue flight.
Polaris/PP configuration: 28J/21PE/36E+/158Y
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:58 pm

ChaseP wrote:
Yesterday, around 9:40 AM, UA219 bound for HNL on N656UA and UA202 bound for Maui on N642UA, made contact at the wingtips after the pushback was complete. Both flights were delayed 400+ minutes while equipment was swapped.

While the severity of the damage is unknown, N642UA and N656UA may be out of service for a bit of time while repairs are made.


The curse on Hawaii bound UA flights continues.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:17 pm

ChaseP wrote:
Yesterday, around 9:40 AM, UA219 bound for HNL on N656UA and UA202 bound for Maui on N642UA, made contact at the wingtips after the pushback was complete. Both flights were delayed 400+ minutes while equipment was swapped.

While the severity of the damage is unknown, N642UA and N656UA may be out of service for a bit of time while repairs are made.


You say after the pushback was complete so I assume that means one of them was taxing under its own power when the contact was made? Or was it still being moved by the tug?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:35 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
30west wrote:
In EWR starting June 1 ( I believe ) one of the main runways closes for work until Oct 1 so there will be a reduced schedule


This is just a weak excuse. I don’t think if we were outside of Covid times UA would have to reduce their footprint at EWR by 50% for runway construction especially when most other carriers are down too.


So damned if they do, damned if they don't?

If UA attempted something to a closer-to-normal schedule, there would be plenty of complaints about delays due to the runway construction. While last summer would have been a great time to rebuild that runway, this coming summer is probably a better time than summer 2022.

Also, I understand 28R/10L at SFO is going to close this summer. Again, probably better this summer than summer of 2022.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:17 pm

FlyHossD wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
30west wrote:
In EWR starting June 1 ( I believe ) one of the main runways closes for work until Oct 1 so there will be a reduced schedule


This is just a weak excuse. I don’t think if we were outside of Covid times UA would have to reduce their footprint at EWR by 50% for runway construction especially when most other carriers are down too.


So damned if they do, damned if they don't?

If UA attempted something to a closer-to-normal schedule, there would be plenty of complaints about delays due to the runway construction. While last summer would have been a great time to rebuild that runway, this coming summer is probably a better time than summer 2022.

Also, I understand 28R/10L at SFO is going to close this summer. Again, probably better this summer than summer of 2022.


Exactly. JFK had carriers reduce flights during non-COVID times and there were, at times, significant delays. Better now when UA can change gauge, etc. more easily. This thread has become nothing but complaining about UA because of its scheduling (no matter what UA does) - its annoying. We aren't in normal times and airlines are just trying to survive and make the best decisions they can. No poster on here knows better than they do.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:01 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
30west wrote:
In EWR starting June 1 ( I believe ) one of the main runways closes for work until Oct 1 so there will be a reduced schedule


This is just a weak excuse. I don’t think if we were outside of Covid times UA would have to reduce their footprint at EWR by 50% for runway construction especially when most other carriers are down too.


How is that a weak excuse? Taking away a huge chunk of the runway capacity at an airport that is bottom-of-the-barrel for on-time performance in normal times seems to me like a great reason to reduce schedules...
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:03 pm

FSDan wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
30west wrote:
In EWR starting June 1 ( I believe ) one of the main runways closes for work until Oct 1 so there will be a reduced schedule


This is just a weak excuse. I don’t think if we were outside of Covid times UA would have to reduce their footprint at EWR by 50% for runway construction especially when most other carriers are down too.


How is that a weak excuse? Taking away a huge chunk of the runway capacity at an airport that is bottom-of-the-barrel for on-time performance in normal times seems to me like a great reason to reduce schedules...


So your telling me if we were in Summer 2019 and they were doing this work UA would be running only 220 departures s day from EWR? Yeah, I don’t really think so.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:12 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
FSDan wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:

This is just a weak excuse. I don’t think if we were outside of Covid times UA would have to reduce their footprint at EWR by 50% for runway construction especially when most other carriers are down too.


How is that a weak excuse? Taking away a huge chunk of the runway capacity at an airport that is bottom-of-the-barrel for on-time performance in normal times seems to me like a great reason to reduce schedules...


So your telling me if we were in Summer 2019 and they were doing this work UA would be running only 220 departures s day from EWR? Yeah, I don’t really think so.


We're talking about closing one of the two major parallel runways that handle the lion's share of traffic at EWR. So while only 1 of 3 runways will be down, the impact on operational capacity will be much closer to 50% than 33%. I'd hope schedules would reflect that reality regardless of the demand situation, or else the airport would just become a parking lot for delayed flights.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:14 pm

jbs2886 wrote:
FlyHossD wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:

This is just a weak excuse. I don’t think if we were outside of Covid times UA would have to reduce their footprint at EWR by 50% for runway construction especially when most other carriers are down too.


So damned if they do, damned if they don't?

If UA attempted something to a closer-to-normal schedule, there would be plenty of complaints about delays due to the runway construction. While last summer would have been a great time to rebuild that runway, this coming summer is probably a better time than summer 2022.

Also, I understand 28R/10L at SFO is going to close this summer. Again, probably better this summer than summer of 2022.


Exactly. JFK had carriers reduce flights during non-COVID times and there were, at times, significant delays. Better now when UA can change gauge, etc. more easily. This thread has become nothing but complaining about UA because of its scheduling (no matter what UA does) - its annoying. We aren't in normal times and airlines are just trying to survive and make the best decisions they can. No poster on here knows better than they do.


I agree there are a few posters on here who continuously complain about the same thing over and over again. No matter what changes they never seem to be satisfied and no explanation seems to satisfy them. So what I would suggest is add them to your foe list that way you won't have to deal with their posts again. Don't know if the people you are referring to are trolling or whatever but...

Just because they poke at an open wound (and I think everyone needs to understand that none of us are really OK after this past 18 months) doesn't mean you have to take it or respond to them. Just block and walk away...it makes this forum much easier to read. You don't have to try and change their minds as I'm not sure anyone on here can.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:57 pm

jbs2886 wrote:
This thread has become nothing but complaining about UA because of its scheduling (no matter what UA does) - its annoying. We aren't in normal times and airlines are just trying to survive and make the best decisions they can. No poster on here knows better than they do.


United1 wrote:
I agree there are a few posters on here who continuously complain about the same thing over and over again. No matter what changes they never seem to be satisfied and no explanation seems to satisfy them. So what I would suggest is add them to your foe list that way you won't have to deal with their posts again. Don't know if the people you are referring to are trolling or whatever but...

Just because they poke at an open wound (and I think everyone needs to understand that none of us are really OK after this past 18 months) doesn't mean you have to take it or respond to them. Just block and walk away...it makes this forum much easier to read. You don't have to try and change their minds as I'm not sure anyone on here can.


I think what most people who are complaining about UA's network scheduling patterns are getting at is that UA's approach is very different than that of AA and DL and that it would be nice for UA to at least publicly acknowledge their strategy differences from their competitors and state when they plan on vamping up their schedule to better match their competitors. However, UA obviously won't reveal their strategy to the competition, so as long as UA releases a weaker schedule than AA and DL, people are going to complain about it.

I have to agree, seeing UA with a weaker schedule than AA and DL can be quite annoying for the airline's frequent fliers who are ready to travel again. Air travel demand is increasing and it will hopefully continue to steadily increase overtime, and it does seem like AA and DL are taking a more competitive approach while UA remains hesitant to do so. However, at the end of the day, we all have to remember that the big 3 U.S. airlines are all very different from one another. They have relatively similar hub-and-spoke route networks and aircraft types but in terms of what factors allow an airline to make their schedule stronger, the similarities pretty much end there. AA and DL have plenty of advantages that UA just simply doesn't have, like a naturally strong presence in heavy leisure markets like Arizona, Cancun, Florida, etc. UA's costal hubs like EWR and SFO have pretty much always relied on a very strong demand for TATL and TPAC business traffic, while AA and DL instead focus the majority of their network on their South/Southeast mega hubs like DFW/CLT and ATL. UA does not have a "southern hub" to take advantage of, and no, I don't think IAD counts as that... I'm sure there are plenty of other factors that make AA & DL different from UA, but I think my point has been made.
 
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Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:14 pm

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I don't disagree with any of your points. UA is structurally different than DL and AA and therefore is doing what is right for UA. What I am saying is when you have explained your points, and others that folks have mentioned, time and time again yet the topic still comes up like a broken record sometimes its healthier just to walk away from the conversation. That's what I am advocating.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:19 pm

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So your telling me if we were in Summer 2019 and they were doing this work UA would be running only 220 departures s day from EWR? Yeah, I don’t really think so.


I'm guessing you have probably forgotten about September 2019 and runway construction at SFO. United did in fact reduce capacity for the entire 3 week period by about 15%-20%, many other carrier did not reduce their capacity at all especially during the first week and everyone suffered. Because United and other carries did not take enough capacity out of their scheduled what followed was 5 hour delays, hundreds of cancellations, that first weekend of construction was a horror show as many SFO customers never actually made it to SFO or were stranded at SFO. Looking back I would guess if United had to do it all over again they would have reduced capacity more at SFO and perhaps increased capacity during this 3 or 4 weeks at DEN or even LAX.

When you are talking about runway construction that is a big deal and the ripple effects of loosing a runway at an airport like EWR or SFO can not be underestimated. SFO has 4 runways EWR only has 3 runways and look at what happened at SFO. Taking just one of those runways out of service at EWR is bound to have an impact on traffic. If these were normal times I am almost certain the FAA would step in and force the airlines to reduce capacity at EWR for safety reasons. There is no way an airport like EWR could handle United operating 70%, 80% or 90% of our normal schedule along with every other carrier.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:36 pm

jayunited wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
So your telling me if we were in Summer 2019 and they were doing this work UA would be running only 220 departures s day from EWR? Yeah, I don’t really think so.


I'm guessing you have probably forgotten about September 2019 and runway construction at SFO. United did in fact reduce capacity for the entire 3 week period by about 15%-20%, many other carrier did not reduce their capacity at all especially during the first week and everyone suffered... ...There is no way an airport like EWR could handle United operating 70%, 80% or 90% of our normal schedule along with every other carrier.


There probably isn't a point in replying to someone who's either trolling or has an ax to grind (in this case with UA). Yes, I made the same mistake.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:51 pm

Did anyone see the post from View from the Wing a few hours ago about adding seatback video to the older fleet? Does anyone have any inside info on which planes will get it and how many? https://viewfromthewing.com/united-airl ... -aircraft/
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:10 pm

Golfmikey wrote:
Did anyone see the post from View from the Wing a few hours ago about adding seatback video to the older fleet? Does anyone have any inside info on which planes will get it and how many? https://viewfromthewing.com/united-airl ... -aircraft/

There is no information - or confirmation they are adding seatback video. The video mentioned briefly that we would be refurbishing the interiors of older planes with new seats and AVOD. It didn't say seatback entertainment and it didn't say PTVs. There was some stock video of PTVs shown so it's inferred they will be adding seatback video. The video has since been removed.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:24 pm

Scarebus34 wrote:
There is no information - or confirmation they are adding seatback video. The video mentioned briefly that we would be refurbishing the interiors of older planes with new seats and AVOD. It didn't say seatback entertainment and it didn't say PTVs. There was some stock video of PTVs shown so it's inferred they will be adding seatback video. The video has since been removed.


Everyone keeps pointing out that they didn't say PTVs, but most UA aircraft already have streaming AVOD. Even if there was some plan to enhance the streaming service, it doesn't make sense that Toby would say "renovate [sic] our older aircraft with new seats, bins, and AVOD." Pre-COVID, UA was looking at adding PTVs to older aircraft, so it makes sense that it's picked up steam again. There's a halo effect of being onboard an airplane that looks new and feels "fancy," and that has a corresponding NPS benefit.

It will be interesting to see what happens with the 737-8.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:07 am

Had great service on United mainline and Express this week. Hopefully morale is being shored up with hard data and anecdotal reports.

Had a Skywest CRJ200 pilot on a full flight DEN-GJT make his pre-flight announcement in person from the galley. He ended by saying he had something very important to say..and that he had noticed loads were up in the last few weeks. He thanked us for flying and helping keep everyone employed.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:12 am

jayunited wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
So your telling me if we were in Summer 2019 and they were doing this work UA would be running only 220 departures s day from EWR? Yeah, I don’t really think so.


I'm guessing you have probably forgotten about September 2019 and runway construction at SFO. United did in fact reduce capacity for the entire 3 week period by about 15%-20%, many other carrier did not reduce their capacity at all especially during the first week and everyone suffered. Because United and other carries did not take enough capacity out of their scheduled what followed was 5 hour delays, hundreds of cancellations, that first weekend of construction was a horror show as many SFO customers never actually made it to SFO or were stranded at SFO. Looking back I would guess if United had to do it all over again they would have reduced capacity more at SFO and perhaps increased capacity during this 3 or 4 weeks at DEN or even LAX.

When you are talking about runway construction that is a big deal and the ripple effects of loosing a runway at an airport like EWR or SFO can not be underestimated. SFO has 4 runways EWR only has 3 runways and look at what happened at SFO. Taking just one of those runways out of service at EWR is bound to have an impact on traffic. If these were normal times I am almost certain the FAA would step in and force the airlines to reduce capacity at EWR for safety reasons. There is no way an airport like EWR could handle United operating 70%, 80% or 90% of our normal schedule along with every other carrier.


So do they typically approach all carriers/put in slots?
It seems like the hub carrier in a situation like this should have more sway instead of straight lime percentage reduction?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:50 am

United1 wrote:
AC4500 wrote:



I don't disagree with any of your points. UA is structurally different than DL and AA and therefore is doing what is right for UA. What I am saying is when you have explained your points, and others that folks have mentioned, time and time again yet the topic still comes up like a broken record sometimes its healthier just to walk away from the conversation. That's what I am advocating.


And the other way around too . . .
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:09 am

Nicknuzzii wrote:
jbs2886 wrote:
FlyHossD wrote:

So damned if they do, damned if they don't?

If UA attempted something to a closer-to-normal schedule, there would be plenty of complaints about delays due to the runway construction. While last summer would have been a great time to rebuild that runway, this coming summer is probably a better time than summer 2022.

Also, I understand 28R/10L at SFO is going to close this summer. Again, probably better this summer than summer of 2022.


Exactly. JFK had carriers reduce flights during non-COVID times and there were, at times, significant delays. Better now when UA can change gauge, etc. more easily. This thread has become nothing but complaining about UA because of its scheduling (no matter what UA does) - its annoying. We aren't in normal times and airlines are just trying to survive and make the best decisions they can. No poster on here knows better than they do.


JFK “Had” AA, one carrier, reduce their footprint during construction. We both know that was for another reason though.

B6 definitely reduced their JFK schedule and I’m pretty sure DL did as well.
I know your EWR guy so I’m confused how you don’t understand this being a major pain the butt to ATC.
They use 22R for departure to the south while 22L is for arrivals and vv for the north. They can use 11/29 but at less than 7’ feet it cannot land nor depart anything of weight, especially in the summer. EWR ops should be reluctantly happy about the lower number of flights but it will still be a struggle for ATC and airlines especially on weekends and bad wx days.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:22 am

Is EWR traditionally a rolling bank for flights with United or specific banks throughout the day?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:00 am

sldispatcher wrote:
Is EWR traditionally a rolling bank for flights with United or specific banks throughout the day?


I think it is more of a rolling bank, atleast Pre Covid. However I am not 100%sure
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:55 pm

June schedule is still going through some changes, all updates should be published by next Saturday, April 24.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:56 pm

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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:15 pm

AA94 wrote:
June schedule is still going through some changes, all updates should be published by next Saturday, April 24.

I had an IAH-NRT direct flight booked for June knowing it was likely this flight would be pulled off the schedule again and changed to IAH-SFO-NRT. This did happen, however during the Wednesday night update, it was automatically changed to IAH-DEN-NRT on UA143. I looked at FR24 and couldn't find any DEN-NRT direct flights going back 3 months, so I'm assuming this has been reinstated for the June schedule, at least for now. Do you have any insight if this will stick through these additional updates, or should I be prepared for another change?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:09 am

UAX Update:

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Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q2 2021

Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:31 am

Paint Update:
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