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zkncj wrote:Face coverings required on domestic flights - is it time to let that requirement go?
Seems odd that we are happy to open up to Australia, yet we still required face-masks to be worn on domestic flights in New Zealand.
Surely it should be time to remove that requirement?
I was thinking while I was at my over crowed in Auckland City gym tonight, that surely I'm at more risk of getting Covid here (no mask required). Than on my 45minute flight to Wellington, that they are more than happy to let me remove my facemask to drink an beer during Koru Hour.
zkncj wrote:Looks like Hobart has been put on sale overnight, starting on Thursday 22 April 2021z
Looks like AKL-HBA is operated by an A320CEO and not NEO at this stage.
Flights are Thursday // Friday NZ197 departs AKL at 0900 and NZ198 Departs HBA at 12:30.
AKL is soon to become very busy again around 0900 and 1700 daily!
DavidByrne wrote:Great news. But looks like Thu and Sun to me! Exceptionally long layover at HBA - 1h 30m - could there be a reason for this?
aerorobnz wrote:DavidByrne wrote:Great news. But looks like Thu and Sun to me! Exceptionally long layover at HBA - 1h 30m - could there be a reason for this?
Currently, travel requires delays to disembarkation until border agencies and MOH allow (even for RAR), cleaning cannot overlap with anyone including crew on board and the whole thing is more intensive so it just takes time. While I can't be sure, I do suspect that this is the main reason.
zkncj wrote:aerorobnz wrote:DavidByrne wrote:Great news. But looks like Thu and Sun to me! Exceptionally long layover at HBA - 1h 30m - could there be a reason for this?
Currently, travel requires delays to disembarkation until border agencies and MOH allow (even for RAR), cleaning cannot overlap with anyone including crew on board and the whole thing is more intensive so it just takes time. While I can't be sure, I do suspect that this is the main reason.
Probably would be ground staff related too, Customs staff are flying in from Melbourne to process the flight.
So would expect the same staff will process the arriving passengers, then go onto processing the departing passengers.
zkncj wrote:Face coverings required on domestic flights - is it time to let that requirement go?
Seems odd that we are happy to open up to Australia, yet we still required face-masks to be worn on domestic flights in New Zealand.
Surely it should be time to remove that requirement?
DavidByrne wrote:zkncj wrote:Looks like Hobart has been put on sale overnight, starting on Thursday 22 April 2021z
Looks like AKL-HBA is operated by an A320CEO and not NEO at this stage.
Flights are Thursday // Friday NZ197 departs AKL at 0900 and NZ198 Departs HBA at 12:30.
AKL is soon to become very busy again around 0900 and 1700 daily!
Great news. But looks like Thu and Sun to me! Exceptionally long layover at HBA - 1h 30m - could there be a reason for this?
PA515 wrote:
MCY was also 1hr 30m. The AKL-HBA 0900/1100, HBA-AKL 1230/1800 initial schedule is likely just until the ground handling experience is bedded in, and the sector times could even reduce by 5 or 10 mins.
PA515 wrote:MCY was also 1hr 30m.
aerorobnz wrote:PA515 wrote:MCY was also 1hr 30m.
This jogged my memory, the other thing that MCY and HBA share is that the aircraft holds are bulk loaded by hand which also slows things down. I believe ADL has also become a bulk loaded flight due to change of ground handler. (swissport)
zkncj wrote:PA515 wrote:
MCY was also 1hr 30m. The AKL-HBA 0900/1100, HBA-AKL 1230/1800 initial schedule is likely just until the ground handling experience is bedded in, and the sector times could even reduce by 5 or 10 mins.
Sector times on the Tasman are interesting, looking at OOL-AKL flights today and notice there is an 15minutes variation on this route.
NZ: 3h10m
QF: 3h0m
JQ: 2h55m
I know that the 738s are slightly slower at cruise than an a320. But JQ must of found an turbo charge function on there a320s.... some how they are 15minutes faster than NZ.
ZK-NBT wrote:aerorobnz wrote:PA515 wrote:MCY was also 1hr 30m.
This jogged my memory, the other thing that MCY and HBA share is that the aircraft holds are bulk loaded by hand which also slows things down. I believe ADL has also become a bulk loaded flight due to change of ground handler. (swissport)
ADL was generally but not always a 789.
zkncj wrote:Looks like Hobart has been put on sale overnight, starting on Thursday 22 April 2021z
Looks like AKL-HBA is operated by an A320CEO and not NEO at this stage.
Flights are Thursday // Friday NZ197 departs AKL at 0900 and NZ198 Departs HBA at 12:30.
AKL is soon to become very busy again around 0900 and 1700 daily!
ZK-NBT wrote:zkncj wrote:Looks like Hobart has been put on sale overnight, starting on Thursday 22 April 2021z
Looks like AKL-HBA is operated by an A320CEO and not NEO at this stage.
Flights are Thursday // Friday NZ197 departs AKL at 0900 and NZ198 Departs HBA at 12:30.
AKL is soon to become very busy again around 0900 and 1700 daily!
I havn't checked the booking engine but none of the Tasman flights show as NEOs in the schedules, or A321s for that matter. I would imagine HBT will be a NEO given the sector length, there is I think now 3 International CEOs left which are often on domestic.
zkncj wrote:PA515 wrote:
MCY was also 1hr 30m. The AKL-HBA 0900/1100, HBA-AKL 1230/1800 initial schedule is likely just until the ground handling experience is bedded in, and the sector times could even reduce by 5 or 10 mins.
Sector times on the Tasman are interesting, looking at OOL-AKL flights today and notice there is an 15minutes variation on this route.
NZ: 3h10m
QF: 3h0m
JQ: 2h55m
I know that the 738s are slightly slower at cruise than an a320. But JQ must of found an turbo charge function on there a320s.... some how they are 15minutes faster than NZ.
zkncj wrote:PA515 wrote:
MCY was also 1hr 30m. The AKL-HBA 0900/1100, HBA-AKL 1230/1800 initial schedule is likely just until the ground handling experience is bedded in, and the sector times could even reduce by 5 or 10 mins.
Sector times on the Tasman are interesting, looking at OOL-AKL flights today and notice there is an 15minutes variation on this route.
NZ: 3h10m
QF: 3h0m
JQ: 2h55m
I know that the 738s are slightly slower at cruise than an a320. But JQ must of found an turbo charge function on there a320s.... some how they are 15minutes faster than NZ.
GW54 wrote:Currently 4 Regional A320CEO's still operational. OJB,OJF,OJI and OJM. Currently they do appear on the occasional domestic sectors but usually only 3 or 4 sectors a day and not all 4 on th e same day. I suspect all 4 will revert back to being Regional aircraft primarily supplementing the A320NEO's. Wellington seems to be getting a mix with the CEO's doing Syd. Mel and Bne being covered by a NEO. Suspect the 321's will be pretty busy in and out of Auckland and doing occasional peak domestic sectors as well.
PA515 wrote:According to the 2021 Interim Analyst Presentation (slide 27) another Regional A320CEO will leave by 30 Jun 21 and the remaining three by 30 Jun 22. And according to the 2021 Interim Report (page 18) A320NEOs ZK-NHE and ZK-NHF are due for delivery in August and October this year. The first domestic A321NEO is due in Jun 2022. Does anyone know the registration series for the domestic A321NEOs.
Deepinsider wrote:zkncj wrote:PA515 wrote:
MCY was also 1hr 30m. The AKL-HBA 0900/1100, HBA-AKL 1230/1800 initial schedule is likely just until the ground handling experience is bedded in, and the sector times could even reduce by 5 or 10 mins.
Sector times on the Tasman are interesting, looking at OOL-AKL flights today and notice there is an 15minutes variation on this route.
NZ: 3h10m
QF: 3h0m
JQ: 2h55m
I know that the 738s are slightly slower at cruise than an a320. But JQ must of found an turbo charge function on there a320s.... some how they are 15minutes faster than NZ.
Forget Flight Ops and A320 vs 737.... Think Marketing!
aerorobnz wrote:PA515 wrote:MCY was also 1hr 30m.
This jogged my memory, the other thing that MCY and HBA share is that the aircraft holds are bulk loaded by hand which also slows things down. I believe ADL has also become a bulk loaded flight due to change of ground handler. (swissport)
LamboAston wrote:aerorobnz wrote:PA515 wrote:MCY was also 1hr 30m.
This jogged my memory, the other thing that MCY and HBA share is that the aircraft holds are bulk loaded by hand which also slows things down. I believe ADL has also become a bulk loaded flight due to change of ground handler. (swissport)
HBA isn't bulk load for NZ
mrkerr7474 wrote:Are Air NZ currently offering inflight entertainment on their flights out of NZ? If so, have they been keeping the content updated or is it before pre covid times to miminise costs?
aerorobnz wrote:mrkerr7474 wrote:Are Air NZ currently offering inflight entertainment on their flights out of NZ? If so, have they been keeping the content updated or is it before pre covid times to miminise costs?
I know on my domestic flights with IFE this year it seemed to all be operating as usual.
There have been minor updates I'm sure for the latest episodes in series etc, but as far as I am aware NZ has been cutting back the new release box-office movies for a while (even pre covid). Obviously, the product varies depending on the seat product, works etc.
zkncj wrote:aerorobnz wrote:mrkerr7474 wrote:Are Air NZ currently offering inflight entertainment on their flights out of NZ? If so, have they been keeping the content updated or is it before pre covid times to miminise costs?
I know on my domestic flights with IFE this year it seemed to all be operating as usual.
There have been minor updates I'm sure for the latest episodes in series etc, but as far as I am aware NZ has been cutting back the new release box-office movies for a while (even pre covid). Obviously, the product varies depending on the seat product, works etc.
Add to that the free WIFI is still enabled on the A320/321NEOS, something that allot of airlines cut back on.
mrkerr7474 wrote:Are Air NZ currently offering inflight entertainment on their flights out of NZ? If so, have they been keeping the content updated or is it before pre covid times to miminise costs?
NZ516 wrote:mrkerr7474 wrote:Are Air NZ currently offering inflight entertainment on their flights out of NZ? If so, have they been keeping the content updated or is it before pre covid times to miminise costs?
I watched an entire movie once while on a INT 320 ZKOJH going AKL to CHC. As the flight was delayed before take off I was in my seat with it playing for 1 hr 35.
aerorobnz wrote:LamboAston wrote:aerorobnz wrote:
This jogged my memory, the other thing that MCY and HBA share is that the aircraft holds are bulk loaded by hand which also slows things down. I believe ADL has also become a bulk loaded flight due to change of ground handler. (swissport)
HBA isn't bulk load for NZ
That's not what I have seen or heard from the ramp guys and training teams.
77west wrote:How does FedEx ship from Australia to NZ? I don't see any flights on their own metal so I assume they buy capacity on NZ/QF or the DHL bird.
ZK-NBT wrote:77west wrote:How does FedEx ship from Australia to NZ? I don't see any flights on their own metal so I assume they buy capacity on NZ/QF or the DHL bird.
Haven’t they been using a toll 737? Or was that DHL? Who is using the Olympus 757? I can’t remember.
aerorobnz wrote:ZK-NBT wrote:77west wrote:How does FedEx ship from Australia to NZ? I don't see any flights on their own metal so I assume they buy capacity on NZ/QF or the DHL bird.
Haven’t they been using a toll 737? Or was that DHL? Who is using the Olympus 757? I can’t remember.
Basically any trans-Tasman AWK flight number is FX. This includes 734/752
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ZaphodHarkonnen wrote:Interesting. I didn't know this was done every 5 years. https://i.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/30027 ... passengers
ZaphodHarkonnen wrote:I'm sure this will shock people. https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/440 ... a-air-plan
NZ6 wrote:ZaphodHarkonnen wrote:I'm sure this will shock people. https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/440 ... a-air-plan
I would like to tell you "I told you so" re not getting off the ground but I'm not sure if anyone disagreed with me
We're heading back to Norfolk Island
Following the announcement of the trans-Tasman bubble, we're excited to announce that we're resuming flights to and from Norfolk Island from May 27th.
Our timetable has been adjusted to see us flying from New Zealand to Norfolk Island on Thursdays departing Auckland at 10:30am allowing easy connections from domestic flights. Flights will arrive back into Auckland at 4:45pm, again allowing for easy transit to destinations outside of Auckland.
We'll also be introducing a new aircraft type on this route - the Saab 340. If you've travelled between Auckland and Whanganui or Kapiti with us before, you'll have experienced the comfortable and spacious interior of this popular aircraft that will be flying with our famous inflight service of Tim Tams!
Norfolk Island, always a popular short-haul holiday escape for New Zealanders, has remained virus-free through the global pandemic and offers visitors everything needed to relax the mind, enjoy a special holiday and escape from crowds.
With safety and health on everyone's minds and, while the island continues to deliver outdoor, culinary, or historical experiences, there is even more of a focus now on wellbeing.
The island is an ideal spot for a retreat to relax and revive, reconnect to earth and oneself, enjoy nature and participate in adrenalin-rushing or soothing activity and adventure.
VirginFlyer wrote:Meanwhile on the other end of the spectrum there is some welcome news from New Zealand's other international airline; if you go to the Air Chathams website there is a new picture on the front page linking to this:We're heading back to Norfolk Island
Following the announcement of the trans-Tasman bubble, we're excited to announce that we're resuming flights to and from Norfolk Island from May 27th.
Our timetable has been adjusted to see us flying from New Zealand to Norfolk Island on Thursdays departing Auckland at 10:30am allowing easy connections from domestic flights. Flights will arrive back into Auckland at 4:45pm, again allowing for easy transit to destinations outside of Auckland.
We'll also be introducing a new aircraft type on this route - the Saab 340. If you've travelled between Auckland and Whanganui or Kapiti with us before, you'll have experienced the comfortable and spacious interior of this popular aircraft that will be flying with our famous inflight service of Tim Tams!
Norfolk Island, always a popular short-haul holiday escape for New Zealanders, has remained virus-free through the global pandemic and offers visitors everything needed to relax the mind, enjoy a special holiday and escape from crowds.
With safety and health on everyone's minds and, while the island continues to deliver outdoor, culinary, or historical experiences, there is even more of a focus now on wellbeing.
The island is an ideal spot for a retreat to relax and revive, reconnect to earth and oneself, enjoy nature and participate in adrenalin-rushing or soothing activity and adventure.
https://sh1.sendinblue.com/vdneggmett7e ... 1618455077
Additionally, they've announced a second weekly rotation on Mondays, starting on the 2nd of August. Exciting news for Norfolk Island!
V/F
tullamarine wrote:VirginFlyer wrote:Meanwhile on the other end of the spectrum there is some welcome news from New Zealand's other international airline; if you go to the Air Chathams website there is a new picture on the front page linking to this:We're heading back to Norfolk Island
Following the announcement of the trans-Tasman bubble, we're excited to announce that we're resuming flights to and from Norfolk Island from May 27th.
Our timetable has been adjusted to see us flying from New Zealand to Norfolk Island on Thursdays departing Auckland at 10:30am allowing easy connections from domestic flights. Flights will arrive back into Auckland at 4:45pm, again allowing for easy transit to destinations outside of Auckland.
We'll also be introducing a new aircraft type on this route - the Saab 340. If you've travelled between Auckland and Whanganui or Kapiti with us before, you'll have experienced the comfortable and spacious interior of this popular aircraft that will be flying with our famous inflight service of Tim Tams!
Norfolk Island, always a popular short-haul holiday escape for New Zealanders, has remained virus-free through the global pandemic and offers visitors everything needed to relax the mind, enjoy a special holiday and escape from crowds.
With safety and health on everyone's minds and, while the island continues to deliver outdoor, culinary, or historical experiences, there is even more of a focus now on wellbeing.
The island is an ideal spot for a retreat to relax and revive, reconnect to earth and oneself, enjoy nature and participate in adrenalin-rushing or soothing activity and adventure.
https://sh1.sendinblue.com/vdneggmett7e ... 1618455077
Additionally, they've announced a second weekly rotation on Mondays, starting on the 2nd of August. Exciting news for Norfolk Island!
V/F
Am I reading this correctly? NLK-AKL 1090kms over the ocean on a Saab 340B! Count me out!!!
tullamarine wrote:VirginFlyer wrote:Meanwhile on the other end of the spectrum there is some welcome news from New Zealand's other international airline; if you go to the Air Chathams website there is a new picture on the front page linking to this:We're heading back to Norfolk Island
Following the announcement of the trans-Tasman bubble, we're excited to announce that we're resuming flights to and from Norfolk Island from May 27th.
Our timetable has been adjusted to see us flying from New Zealand to Norfolk Island on Thursdays departing Auckland at 10:30am allowing easy connections from domestic flights. Flights will arrive back into Auckland at 4:45pm, again allowing for easy transit to destinations outside of Auckland.
We'll also be introducing a new aircraft type on this route - the Saab 340. If you've travelled between Auckland and Whanganui or Kapiti with us before, you'll have experienced the comfortable and spacious interior of this popular aircraft that will be flying with our famous inflight service of Tim Tams!
Norfolk Island, always a popular short-haul holiday escape for New Zealanders, has remained virus-free through the global pandemic and offers visitors everything needed to relax the mind, enjoy a special holiday and escape from crowds.
With safety and health on everyone's minds and, while the island continues to deliver outdoor, culinary, or historical experiences, there is even more of a focus now on wellbeing.
The island is an ideal spot for a retreat to relax and revive, reconnect to earth and oneself, enjoy nature and participate in adrenalin-rushing or soothing activity and adventure.
https://sh1.sendinblue.com/vdneggmett7e ... 1618455077
Additionally, they've announced a second weekly rotation on Mondays, starting on the 2nd of August. Exciting news for Norfolk Island!
V/F
Am I reading this correctly? NLK-AKL 1090kms over the ocean on a Saab 340B! Count me out!!!