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travaz wrote:CDC says vaccinated people can now travel with "low risk"
http://www.azfamily.com/news/us_world_n ... 0166f.html
rjbesikof wrote:travaz wrote:CDC says vaccinated people can now travel with "low risk"
http://www.azfamily.com/news/us_world_n ... 0166f.html
Given that President Biden follows the CDC advice, will he lift the travel bans from Europe/Brazil/China/South Africa for fully vaccinated foreign nationals?
jbpdx wrote:So a Covid PCR test is no longer required for travel to or within Hawaii for fully vaccinated travelers.
UPlog wrote:jbpdx wrote:So a Covid PCR test is no longer required for travel to or within Hawaii for fully vaccinated travelers.
Each locality is free to establish its own requirements.
ojjunior wrote:Meanwhile I wonder why did AA and DL reinstated their services to GRU recently...
LAXintl wrote:US CDC study out today says that keeping the middle seat vacant can actually make a difference to in-flight transmission.
According to the CDC, a laboratory-based model "predicts a 23% to 57% reduction in exposure to viable virus particles when middle seats on an airline are kept vacant."
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7016e1.htm
KLM is not allowed to fly passengers to Hong Kong until May 1 after a violation of the local corona rules. The authorities have banned the airline from operating passenger flights to Hong Kong for two weeks
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One of the reasons for the current ban is that one of the passengers who flew with KLM to Hong Kong on Friday was tested positive for the corona virus upon arrival. According to the KLM spokesman, this passenger had valid documents with him on departure, including a negative test statement. "In very exceptional cases, it can happen that the virus builds up along the way."
FlyingHonu001 wrote:KL is put in the doghouse once again for flying to HKG...KLM is not allowed to fly passengers to Hong Kong until May 1 after a violation of the local corona rules. The authorities have banned the airline from operating passenger flights to Hong Kong for two weeks
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One of the reasons for the current ban is that one of the passengers who flew with KLM to Hong Kong on Friday was tested positive for the corona virus upon arrival. According to the KLM spokesman, this passenger had valid documents with him on departure, including a negative test statement. "In very exceptional cases, it can happen that the virus builds up along the way."
Source: translated from Dutch news outlet NU.nl
aerolimani wrote:Either we more or less give up on trying to fully “contain” the virus, or the future of travel, international and national, is extremely dim.
Canada is in the midst of clamping down ever more severely. Inter-provincial travel is now being restricted in many parts of the country, and even restrictions between different regions of the same province. The 3-day mandatory hotel quarantine, for returning international travellers, is definitely not going to be lifted any time soon. It basically amounts to a $1000-2000 surcharge for the privilege of returning to your own country. A return to international travel for Canadians is looking ever more distant by the day.
And really, the cat is so very far out of the bag, I wonder if all of it is just the government trying to look like they’re doing something, versus actually doing something that’s going to make a difference. It feels like they’re brandishing knives while we’re being bombarded by ballistic missiles.
777luver wrote:aerolimani wrote:Either we more or less give up on trying to fully “contain” the virus, or the future of travel, international and national, is extremely dim.
Canada is in the midst of clamping down ever more severely. Inter-provincial travel is now being restricted in many parts of the country, and even restrictions between different regions of the same province. The 3-day mandatory hotel quarantine, for returning international travellers, is definitely not going to be lifted any time soon. It basically amounts to a $1000-2000 surcharge for the privilege of returning to your own country. A return to international travel for Canadians is looking ever more distant by the day.
And really, the cat is so very far out of the bag, I wonder if all of it is just the government trying to look like they’re doing something, versus actually doing something that’s going to make a difference. It feels like they’re brandishing knives while we’re being bombarded by ballistic missiles.
It's ridiculous. The hotel quarantine is such a pathetic joke. It was created by a kid in 5 min by the looks of it. Completely inept and of course the govt says its working. Except it isn't. They need to quarantine everyone not just traveller's who are circumventing the whole thing or leaving after getting their negative test. Oh and covid is still being caught after the fact, of course.
Toenga wrote:777luver wrote:aerolimani wrote:Either we more or less give up on trying to fully “contain” the virus, or the future of travel, international and national, is extremely dim.
Canada is in the midst of clamping down ever more severely. Inter-provincial travel is now being restricted in many parts of the country, and even restrictions between different regions of the same province. The 3-day mandatory hotel quarantine, for returning international travellers, is definitely not going to be lifted any time soon. It basically amounts to a $1000-2000 surcharge for the privilege of returning to your own country. A return to international travel for Canadians is looking ever more distant by the day.
And really, the cat is so very far out of the bag, I wonder if all of it is just the government trying to look like they’re doing something, versus actually doing something that’s going to make a difference. It feels like they’re brandishing knives while we’re being bombarded by ballistic missiles.
It's ridiculous. The hotel quarantine is such a pathetic joke. It was created by a kid in 5 min by the looks of it. Completely inept and of course the govt says its working. Except it isn't. They need to quarantine everyone not just traveller's who are circumventing the whole thing or leaving after getting their negative test. Oh and covid is still being caught after the fact, of course.
Overall hotel quarantine has worked exceedingly well in Australia and New Zealand.
Sure there has been leakage from these facilities from the hundreds of thousands who have passed through this system. As more and more experience is gained from these leakage failures, leakage rates have continually fallen compared to the proportions of infected people arriving across the borders.
As a result of this both countries have been extraordinarily free of covid restrictions and covid infections compared to the bulk of the rest of the world.
In my own city tonight there will be a pop concert with an expected attendance of 55000 people with no restrictions, only a very strong encouragement to use the covid contact tracing application. The last deaths from locally acquired covid cases in our combined 30 million population is about six months ago. How well are you doing in your part of the world?
Hotel quarantine of arrivals across the border has been probably been the single most effective tool deployed.
mercure1 wrote:EU says it will open to tourism this summer to vaccinated persons. Details including timing and if things like digital passports will be required are still to be worked out.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/25/worl ... urope.html
LAXintl wrote:When EU spoke about this first back in March, they stressed the need for secure digital certification. Don't see the U.S.CDC paper certification being accepted you can hardly prove them being authentic.
LAXintl wrote:When EU spoke about this first back in March, they stressed the need for secure digital certification. Don't see the U.S.CDC paper certification being accepted you can hardly prove them being authentic.
dtw2hyd wrote:Air India additional frequencies to USA
DEL-JFK/SFO/EWR
https://twitter.com/airindiain/status/1 ... 1810931720
BOM-EWR
https://twitter.com/airindiain/status/1 ... 2126328846
Revelation wrote:Some experts are saying the goal of herd immunity is out of reach, the hope is for it to become a manageable threat.
Thread in non-av: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1460469
LAXdude1023 wrote:Revelation wrote:Some experts are saying the goal of herd immunity is out of reach, the hope is for it to become a manageable threat.
Thread in non-av: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1460469
Well yeah.
Herd immunity was never going to be a thing. We just have to go on and deal with it.