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Would US Military Ever Sell C-5 to the Civilian Cargo Market?

Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:10 pm

In reading about the Volga-Dnepr An-124 at AUS today, I just wondered if the US military would ever sell C-5's to the civilian cargo market (at least to a US-based operator).

The An-124 was made for exclusive Soviet military use and is now in 'private' hands. There also seems to be large market for this type of cargo service as evidenced by the Ruslan being in high demand.
 
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Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:21 pm

I believe the 747 started out originally as a military project that was subsequently picked up by the civilian market but never the military.
 
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Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:29 pm

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I believe the 747 started out originally as a military project that was subsequently picked up by the civilian market but never the military.


Yes, that's how I understand it.

The ability to drop the nose and drive in large cargo without the use of lifts, plus the anhedral wing and subsequent wider fuselage at the base of the An-124 & C-5, gives them carrying capacity the 747 cannot match.
 
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Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:31 pm

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In reading about the Volga-Dnepr An-124 at AUS today, I just wondered if the US military would ever sell C-5's to the civilian cargo market (at least to a US-based operator).

The An-124 was made for exclusive Soviet military use and is now in 'private' hands. There also seems to be large market for this type of cargo service as evidenced by the Ruslan being in high demand.


I don't think any cargo operator would want it. The military has a basically unlimited budget and they can use this to keep ancient aircraft flying and do modernization projects with it.

Civilian operators don't have this kind of budget or strategic need to keep specific types flying.
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Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:38 pm

Antarius wrote:
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In reading about the Volga-Dnepr An-124 at AUS today, I just wondered if the US military would ever sell C-5's to the civilian cargo market (at least to a US-based operator).

The An-124 was made for exclusive Soviet military use and is now in 'private' hands. There also seems to be large market for this type of cargo service as evidenced by the Ruslan being in high demand.


I don't think any cargo operator would want it. The military has a basically unlimited budget and they can use this to keep ancient aircraft flying and do modernization projects with it.

Civilian operators don't have this kind of budget or strategic need to keep specific types flying.


Volga-Dnepr seems to be making it work with the exact same challenges, with far fewer Ruslans, parts, knowledgeable technicians, etc.
 
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Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:45 pm

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In reading about the Volga-Dnepr An-124 at AUS today, I just wondered if the US military would ever sell C-5's to the civilian cargo market (at least to a US-based operator).

The An-124 was made for exclusive Soviet military use and is now in 'private' hands. There also seems to be large market for this type of cargo service as evidenced by the Ruslan being in high demand.


I don't think any cargo operator would want it. The military has a basically unlimited budget and they can use this to keep ancient aircraft flying and do modernization projects with it.

Civilian operators don't have this kind of budget or strategic need to keep specific types flying.


Volga-Dnepr seems to be making it work with the exact same challenges, with far fewer Ruslans, parts, knowledgeable technicians, etc.

Volga-Dnepr is. Avery big fish in a very small pond. They can charge almost anything and the customers that need that kind of service are willing and able to pay for it. Plus, not to sound jingoist, I'm sure labor in Russia is a lot cheaper than labor in the west.
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Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:46 pm

If there were a C-5 fleet in private hands, operated cheaper and more efficiently, than USAF fleet of C-5's, it would raise all kind of inconvenient questions.

If the root of the problem turned out to be the OEM and contractors overbilling their government customer vs. commercial customers - it'd be a scandal, everyone concerned would lose money and face.
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Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:48 pm

The C-5 has no civilian type certificate - so someone would have to convince L-M to spend the money on certification. And then the issue of parts and support.
 
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Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:53 pm

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In reading about the Volga-Dnepr An-124 at AUS today, I just wondered if the US military would ever sell C-5's to the civilian cargo market (at least to a US-based operator).

The An-124 was made for exclusive Soviet military use and is now in 'private' hands. There also seems to be large market for this type of cargo service as evidenced by the Ruslan being in high demand.


I don't think any cargo operator would want it. The military has a basically unlimited budget and they can use this to keep ancient aircraft flying and do modernization projects with it.

Civilian operators don't have this kind of budget or strategic need to keep specific types flying.


Volga-Dnepr seems to be making it work with the exact same challenges, with far fewer Ruslans, parts, knowledgeable technicians, etc.

Volgna-Dnepr is not the only operator of the An-124. One other major operator is Antonov Airlines, owned by Antonov...the original designer of the aircraft. The other big operator? The Russian Air Force.

Both those operators ensure there are parts and knowledgeable technicians to keep the plane flying.
 
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Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:01 pm

Polot wrote:
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Antarius wrote:

I don't think any cargo operator would want it. The military has a basically unlimited budget and they can use this to keep ancient aircraft flying and do modernization projects with it.

Civilian operators don't have this kind of budget or strategic need to keep specific types flying.


Volga-Dnepr seems to be making it work with the exact same challenges, with far fewer Ruslans, parts, knowledgeable technicians, etc.

Volgna-Dnepr is not the only operator of the An-124. One other major operator is Antonov Airlines, owned by Antonov...the original designer of the aircraft. The other big operator? The Russian Air Force.

Both those operators ensure there are parts and knowledgeable technicians to keep the plane flying.


Also the An-124 is almost 20 years newer than the C5.

Volga Dnepr does have Il76s though that are of the same vintage as the C5s. But as you and others have mentioned, labor is cheaper and there is a historic infrastructure present to support these Russian jets.
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Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:11 pm

The plane we know as the B747 was never a military project. The HL C-X RFP from the Pentagon resulted in a bid by Lockheed and Boeing, which looked fairly similar as you’d expect. Lockheed won, Boeing went to build a passenger/cargo plane which looked entirely different than their C-X bid-low wing instead of high, high cockpit, forward or side loading instead of Ro-Ro. Of course, Boeing learned a lot from the design process, engines were designed that went on to become the GE CF-6 or the P&W JT-9D. The C-5 and the 124 are broadly similar in size and capability, but the M model is probably superior in many ways especially the engines, cargo loading (roller bed capability).

The Economy Act prevents the use of it for civilian operations, unless there’s a declared emergency and only to meet the immediate needs. That’s why, and cost, even FEMA use the AN-124.
 
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Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:45 pm

There was if course the civilian L-500 proposal from Lockheed, that saw no takers when offered. I'm surprised one or two didn't end up with some commercial cargo lifter for specialised load uplifting.
 
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Didn't McD try to offer an MD-17, which was a civilian-configured C-17? They got no bites.
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I do remember seeing a photo of a Delta C-130, but I may just be getting old and not remembering things properly.
 
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I do remember seeing a photo of a Delta C-130, but I may just be getting old and not remembering things properly.


 
 
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There was if course the civilian L-500 proposal from Lockheed, that saw no takers when offered. I'm surprised one or two didn't end up with some commercial cargo lifter for specialised load uplifting.


Yes, though they planned to power that one with Pratts.

Lockheed also were certifying the C-141 as the L-300
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That still belongs to the Qatari Air Force. They just have it in QR’s livery to promote the airline especially when doing humanitarian work with the aircraft. Their other C-17s painted in standard military grey for use on missions where they might want more discretion.
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Technically it belongs to Qatari AF, and in fact, QRAF operates many aircraft in QR livery.
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If Lockheed tried to offer the Galaxy as a civilian type, I don't know if I need a "NEO" option (for example: powered by GENx, Trent 1K).
And offer the NEO to both the military and commercial operator? Is it worth the R&D cost?
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If Lockheed tried to offer the Galaxy as a civilian type, I don't know if I need a "NEO" option (for example: powered by GENx, Trent 1K).
And offer the NEO to both the military and commercial operator? Is it worth the R&D cost?


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Also the An-124 is almost 20 years newer than the C5.


Just to be precise: the An-124 design is newer than the C-5 design. The C-5B airframes date from the 1980s...same time period as the An-124.
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I do remember seeing a photo of a Delta C-130, but I may just be getting old and not remembering things properly.




Technically it is an L-100. There are some physical differences.
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There is a C-17 in Qatar Airways colors isn't it? Said to sometimes be some transport for race horses?

That still belongs to the Qatari Air Force. They just have it in QR’s livery to promote the airline especially when doing humanitarian work with the aircraft.

It likely also accompanies the Emir's Flight when the latter is on official missions and there are lots to carry..... :weightlifter: .....

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I do remember seeing a photo of a Delta C-130, but I may just be getting old and not remembering things properly.




Technically it is an L-100. There are some physical differences.

What are the differences between the L-100 and the C-130?
 
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Also the An-124 is almost 20 years newer than the C5.


Just to be precise: the An-124 design is newer than the C-5 design. The C-5B airframes date from the 1980s...same time period as the An-124.

The C-5Bs were produced between 1986 and 1989, the An-124 between 1982 and 2004 (with an introduction in 1986, so most of the production is 1986 and later); the bulk of the An-124s are newer than the C-5Bs.
 
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LAXdenizen wrote:
In reading about the Volga-Dnepr An-124 at AUS today, I just wondered if the US military would ever sell C-5's to the civilian cargo market (at least to a US-based operator).

The An-124 was made for exclusive Soviet military use and is now in 'private' hands. There also seems to be large market for this type of cargo service as evidenced by the Ruslan being in high demand.

Keep in mind that the civilian operators of the An-124 are Volga-Dnepr Airlines (Russia) and Antonov Airlines (Ukraine); while the latter is a division of the Antonov State Enterprise (designer of the An-124), the former was started as a joint-venture in which the Antonov State Enterprise is also a major shareholder (I cannot find their current stake in it). Later, in 2005, both companies formed a partnership called Ruslan Salis. So, basically, the civilian An-124s are operated by companies in which Antonov have financial interests (a "politically correct" way to say that the OEM is operating them in commercial operation).
 
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Technically it is an L-100. There are some physical differences.

What are the differences between the L-100 and the C-130?

On the current L-100J and C-130J, the most obvious visual difference would be the lack of lower windows under the windscreen, which allows the C-130J pilots to look ahead and down to see drop zones.

Another less obvious distinguishing feature is eighteen small, lightweight, strake-like devices on each side of the aircraft's aft fuselage near the cargo ramp door and horizontal tail on the C-130J, which the L-100J doesn't have. Finally, externally, the low voltage formation lights and the station keeping equipment on the C-130J are also not installed as you won't be flying a L-100 in tight formation flying.

Internally, various military specific bits of hardware are deleted or disabled, mostly surrounding the ability to air drop cargo, and of course, the air countermeasures suite. The flush toilet is also removed in the L-100J, as it is deemed that most flights with the L-100J are fairly short in length. The rear passenger doors also won't serve as paratrooper doors, and the deflectors in front of the doors are also disabled.

Also, the LOX system is also replaced by a gaseous oxygen system with two walk-around oxygen bottles for emergencies.
 
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I think that other than cost of acquisition would be spare parts! What operator could afford to buy just a few parts here and there. The price would be astronomical I believe
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Who would want a C-5?! Fully loaded, it only has a 2500 mile range. It requires over a week of maintenance for every hour of flight. It's a completely useless airplane except in the hands of a military with an effectively unlimited budget and a fleet of tanker planes.
 
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There’s a reason the C-5 got the nickname FRED: F* Ridiculous Economic Disaster. As others have already said, it would likely be cost-prohibitive for a civil operator. Both its development and operation have proven exorbitant
 
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Who would want a C-5?! Fully loaded, it only has a 2500 mile range. It requires over a week of maintenance for every hour of flight. It's a completely useless airplane except in the hands of a military with an effectively unlimited budget and a fleet of tanker planes.


I don’t where you got that info, but a C-5M will carry 125,000# non-stop LTAG, westbound to KDOV easily, that’s 4,900 nautical great circle. Even an A would take a full load of pallets, ETAR to KDOV, both without refueling. The AN stops are PIK and YQX, so I’m betting their range isn’t a lot better. An M with a 200k load can fly 8+30 at M.79. Maintenance-intensive? Sure, but it’s pretty complicated machine, worked on inexperienced techs right out of tech school. I’ve gone 3 years without a broken jet. Once flew 13.4 hours of beating up the traffic pattern, three days on a row. Not easy on the plane, for sure.
 
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Actually, if I could choose a military workhorse to be commercialized, I would choose the C-17 but not the C-5
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Not if you flew them, you wouldn’t. The C-5M has so many more load carrying options for heavy or out-sized cargo.
 
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I recall seeing C-133's parked at Anchorage (C-133's were big airplanes). Weren't those along with the C-119K's operated in Alaska?
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    Drill pipe for pipeline, I think. 133s were built to hail ICBMs. Lot of mysterious crashes in them, too.
     
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    Good looking planes with weird face - believe they were actively involved in supporting the war in se Asia. I wonder who operated the aircraft in Alaska? Unless it was a Govt Agency, that would be a precedent to use C-5's in a civilian capacity. How about a water bomber?
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      Drill pipe for pipeline, I think. 133s were built to hail ICBMs. Lot of mysterious crashes in them, too.


      Pipeline doesn’t use drill pipe. Oil wells do though. Lots of it. In the conus it gets hauled by semi though, getting it to remote drill sites in Alaska takes airlift though. What ever happened to that swing tail cone MD-80 proposal for drill pipe from a few years back?
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      Not if you flew them, you wouldn’t. The C-5M has so many more load carrying options for heavy or out-sized cargo.


      Depends on the cargo. That's the point made above - there's a market for Volga with their small fleet and then there is the military with endless budgets.

      It isn't like there is endless demand for outsized cargo that needs to be transported on an aircraft. Otherwise there would be an economically viable option.
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      There was if course the civilian L-500 proposal from Lockheed, that saw no takers when offered. I'm surprised one or two didn't end up with some commercial cargo lifter for specialised load uplifting.


      Yes, though they planned to power that one with Pratts.

      Lockheed also were certifying the C-141 as the L-300

      Fun fact: Lockheed actually did build an L300 and put it on an around the world sales your. The one example ended up at NASA to become the Kuiper Airborne Observatory, the forerunner to today's SOFIA.
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      Didn't McD try to offer an MD-17, which was a civilian-configured C-17? They got no bites.


      Boeing tried too as the BC-17. Nether sold. The market for such an aircraft is limited and the cost of owning a commercial C-17 variant was unattractive compared to the cost of chartering an An-124 when needed.
       
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      I think that other than cost of acquisition would be spare parts! What operator could afford to buy just a few parts here and there. The price would be astronomical I believe


      I don't think the original poster meant "sell" as much as "charter", so spares and maintenance would remain with the USAF.

      As an aside, Lockheed sketched some commercial versions of the Galaxy seating up to 1,033 passengers!
       
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      I think that other than cost of acquisition would be spare parts! What operator could afford to buy just a few parts here and there. The price would be astronomical I believe


      I don't think the original poster meant "sell" as much as "charter", so spares and maintenance would remain with the USAF.

      As an aside, Lockheed sketched some commercial versions of the Galaxy seating up to 1,033 passengers!


      There is a rare 1/144 scale model of an L500 out there somewhere in Pan Am colours, so the wishful thinking was there at the time.
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      Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:38 am

      cougar15 wrote:
      ELBOB wrote:
      DaCubbyBearBar wrote:
      I think that other than cost of acquisition would be spare parts! What operator could afford to buy just a few parts here and there. The price would be astronomical I believe


      I don't think the original poster meant "sell" as much as "charter", so spares and maintenance would remain with the USAF.

      As an aside, Lockheed sketched some commercial versions of the Galaxy seating up to 1,033 passengers!


      There is a rare 1/144 scale model of an L500 out there somewhere in Pan Am colours, so the wishful thinking was there at the time.

      I found this after reading your post.
      https://www.aviationmegastore.com/c5a-g ... art=116864
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      Re: Would US Military Ever Sell C-5 to the Civilian Cargo Market?

      Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:44 am

      Antarius wrote:
      LAXdenizen wrote:
      In reading about the Volga-Dnepr An-124 at AUS today, I just wondered if the US military would ever sell C-5's to the civilian cargo market (at least to a US-based operator).

      The An-124 was made for exclusive Soviet military use and is now in 'private' hands. There also seems to be large market for this type of cargo service as evidenced by the Ruslan being in high demand.


      I don't think any cargo operator would want it. The military has a basically unlimited budget and they can use this to keep ancient aircraft flying and do modernization projects with it.

      Civilian operators don't have this kind of budget or strategic need to keep specific types flying.


      A more significant reason is that it lacks the overhead gantry crane. A family member worked in the heavy lift industry (heavy lift ships to be fair, but there is actually a fair bit of overlap). The crane is central to loading these aircraft with commercial loads to the extent that these niche operators won't even consider aircraft that don't have it.
       
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      Re: Would US Military Ever Sell C-5 to the Civilian Cargo Market?

      Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:51 am

      Antarius wrote:
      Also the An-124 is almost 20 years newer than the C5.


      how long would a C5 take the hard use that the An-124 get?

      and capabilities aren't the same.
      Internal infrastructure and the demand on external infrastructure are far apart, aren't they?

      C5 is a box carrier,
      The Antonov a tramp freighter with heavy duty autonomous loading equipment.
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      Re: Would US Military Ever Sell C-5 to the Civilian Cargo Market?

      Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:57 am

      Box carrier? The C-5 is made to carry even main battle tanks.
       
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      Re: Would US Military Ever Sell C-5 to the Civilian Cargo Market?

      Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:30 am

      WIederling wrote:
      Antarius wrote:
      Also the An-124 is almost 20 years newer than the C5.


      how long would a C5 take the hard use that the An-124 get?

      and capabilities aren't the same.
      Internal infrastructure and the demand on external infrastructure are far apart, aren't they?

      C5 is a box carrier,
      The Antonov a tramp freighter with heavy duty autonomous loading equipment.

      Calling a C5 a “box carrier” is really underselling the aircraft. I don’t know many box carriers that allow you to roll tanks and helicopters into them. The An-124 was basically designed to be the USSR’s equivalent to the C-5 with similar roles in the military fleet.



      N766UA wrote:
      Who would want a C-5?! Fully loaded, it only has a 2500 mile range.


      Fully loaded the An-124 has similar range. Most commercial operations of the An-124 are taking advantage of its ability to fit large/oversized cargo that cannot fit in regular commercial freighters, not the plane’s max payload capability. If all you are doing is carrying a lot of stuff that can fit in a normal freighter it is usually cheaper to just charter multiple ones of those then a An-124.
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      Re: Would US Military Ever Sell C-5 to the Civilian Cargo Market?

      Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:37 am

      The C-5 has always been a maintenance hog. It would not work for civilian markets do to op cost vs 747-400R/777F.

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