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A320B737NGCapt wrote:Looks like they will be getting 3 of the 6 A333’s that were ordered by the Hainan Group which were never delivered. Good to see they are finally moving forward with the A330.
Antaras wrote:A320B737NGCapt wrote:Looks like they will be getting 3 of the 6 A333’s that were ordered by the Hainan Group which were never delivered. Good to see they are finally moving forward with the A330.
According to planespotters.net, they are potentially these six HX-ntu airframes. As 1940 wasn't built, 1902 and 1907 were already configured (?!) so VJ will most likely get the 'first three' airframes: 1863; 1865 and 1874.
Hope that VJ will be able to get its own config and interior.
MrHMSH wrote:Antaras wrote:A320B737NGCapt wrote:Looks like they will be getting 3 of the 6 A333’s that were ordered by the Hainan Group which were never delivered. Good to see they are finally moving forward with the A330.
According to planespotters.net, they are potentially these six HX-ntu airframes. As 1940 wasn't built, 1902 and 1907 were already configured (?!) so VJ will most likely get the 'first three' airframes: 1863; 1865 and 1874.
Hope that VJ will be able to get its own config and interior.
These either are or can be the 242T variant, so they'll have a possibility to use them on pretty long routes, though to be honest I'd be surprised if we saw them anywhere other than SGN-HAN and SGN/HAN-ICN/NRT/KIX.
Antaras wrote:A320B737NGCapt wrote:Looks like they will be getting 3 of the 6 A333’s that were ordered by the Hainan Group which were never delivered. Good to see they are finally moving forward with the A330.
According to planespotters.net, they are potentially these six HX-ntu airframes. As 1940 wasn't built, 1902 and 1907 were already configured (?!) so VJ will most likely get the 'first three' airframes: 1863; 1865 and 1874.
Hope that VJ will be able to get its own config and interior.
A320B737NGCapt wrote:Antaras wrote:A320B737NGCapt wrote:Looks like they will be getting 3 of the 6 A333’s that were ordered by the Hainan Group which were never delivered. Good to see they are finally moving forward with the A330.
According to planespotters.net, they are potentially these six HX-ntu airframes. As 1940 wasn't built, 1902 and 1907 were already configured (?!) so VJ will most likely get the 'first three' airframes: 1863; 1865 and 1874.
Hope that VJ will be able to get its own config and interior.
The 6th frame is msn 1917, that’s another from the Hainan Group order. As far a I know none of them went through cabin installation, plane spotters have assumed the config as per other A330’s at HX.
Antaras wrote:A320B737NGCapt wrote:Looks like they will be getting 3 of the 6 A333’s that were ordered by the Hainan Group which were never delivered. Good to see they are finally moving forward with the A330.
According to planespotters.net, they are potentially these six HX-ntu airframes. As 1940 wasn't built, 1902 and 1907 were already configured (?!) so VJ will most likely get the 'first three' airframes: 1863; 1865 and 1874.
Hope that VJ will be able to get its own config and interior.
cpthuy wrote:Antaras wrote:A320B737NGCapt wrote:Looks like they will be getting 3 of the 6 A333’s that were ordered by the Hainan Group which were never delivered. Good to see they are finally moving forward with the A330.
According to planespotters.net, they are potentially these six HX-ntu airframes. As 1940 wasn't built, 1902 and 1907 were already configured (?!) so VJ will most likely get the 'first three' airframes: 1863; 1865 and 1874.
Hope that VJ will be able to get its own config and interior.
Per my inside source, the three frames will be ex-XAX.
Antaras wrote:The livery for VJ A333 is revealed in its press release. It is shown that the livery features the gold ribbon runs throughout the aircraft and seems fancier than the simple yellow shade on the narrowbody fleet:
https://www.vietjetair.com/en/news/news ... 6198551530cpthuy wrote:Antaras wrote:According to planespotters.net, they are potentially these six HX-ntu airframes. As 1940 wasn't built, 1902 and 1907 were already configured (?!) so VJ will most likely get the 'first three' airframes: 1863; 1865 and 1874.
Hope that VJ will be able to get its own config and interior.
Per my inside source, the three frames will be ex-XAX.
As Airbus gives the model to Airbus, I assume it is a new delivery (even though it is pretty weak evidence and assumption, LOL).
So we are having confusing sources here. Do you have any info on the lessor(s)?
cpthuy wrote:Per my inside source, the three frames will be ex-XAX.
cpthuy wrote:With enough digging around on planespotters.net, it should be clear which frames VJC will take
cpthuy wrote:Yes I do have the MSN numbers, but unfortunately I cannot share it. If nothing major change, we should see the first airframe touch down in Vietnam pretty soon.
Antaras wrote:cpthuy wrote:Per my inside source, the three frames will be ex-XAX.cpthuy wrote:With enough digging around on planespotters.net, it should be clear which frames VJC will takecpthuy wrote:Yes I do have the MSN numbers, but unfortunately I cannot share it. If nothing major change, we should see the first airframe touch down in Vietnam pretty soon.
In case that your source is right that VJ is taking up ex-XAX airframes, the only airframes available are 1423, 1433, and 1600. It is clear enough that VJ can't register aircraft older than 10 (so there are only those 3 available), their config is 377 seats (12+365) which match previously leaked information, and it is convenient enough that those 3 airframes are owned by the same lessor (Seraph).
Now I will assume that I got the right answer
https://www.planespotters.net/fleet/lis ... e=A330-300
(974 ex 9M-XXB according to Planespotters, and 952, 1165 too…)iridescent wrote:I’d go for an MSN with a bit more “exhilaration”
Antaras wrote:iridescent wrote:I’d go for an MSN with a bit more “exhilaration”
Older-than-10-year-old airframes now cannot receive new registration in Vietnam. Besides that, as VJ aims to operate an extremely young fleet (5 years old in average at this moment), VJ's strategy itself doesn't allow to acquire old airframes.
iridescent wrote:Antaras wrote:iridescent wrote:I’d go for an MSN with a bit more “exhilaration”
Older-than-10-year-old airframes now cannot receive new registration in Vietnam. Besides that, as VJ aims to operate an extremely young fleet (5 years old in average at this moment), VJ's strategy itself doesn't allow to acquire old airframes.
I was simply quoting Planespotters.net who could be wrong but seldom are…
Billly2903 wrote:Hi, I’m new here. So yesterday, I saw 9M-XXA still flying with Air Asia X… So I guess 9M-XXA isn’t the one ://
Billly2903 wrote:Hi, I’m new here. So yesterday, I saw 9M-XXA still flying with Air Asia X… So I guess 9M-XXA isn’t the one ://
iridescent wrote:Antaras wrote:cpthuy wrote:Per my inside source, the three frames will be ex-XAX.cpthuy wrote:With enough digging around on planespotters.net, it should be clear which frames VJC will takecpthuy wrote:Yes I do have the MSN numbers, but unfortunately I cannot share it. If nothing major change, we should see the first airframe touch down in Vietnam pretty soon.
In case that your source is right that VJ is taking up ex-XAX airframes, the only airframes available are 1423, 1433, and 1600. It is clear enough that VJ can't register aircraft older than 10 (so there are only those 3 available), their config is 377 seats (12+365) which match previously leaked information, and it is convenient enough that those 3 airframes are owned by the same lessor (Seraph).
Now I will assume that I got the right answer
https://www.planespotters.net/fleet/lis ... e=A330-300
I’d go for an MSN with a bit more “exhilaration”
Billly2903 wrote:Billly2903 wrote:Hi, I’m new here. So yesterday, I saw 9M-XXA still flying with Air Asia X… So I guess 9M-XXA isn’t the one ://
So… given Vietjet had many ambitious goal, I guess they would fly the A330 to one of these 3 destinations:
+Avalon, Melbourne
+San Jose, California
+London, UK
Billly2903 wrote:5 days away from the end of November...Yet, there is no news about the elusive Trio of Vietjet's A333.
Antaras wrote:
Antaras wrote:The first one, VN-A811 (?!)
@Vietnam Aviation Forum
ben7x wrote:But at least the livery seems to be AirAsia-like.
So maybe that’s another hint?
ben7x wrote:But it seems the fuselage looks a bit plain in the front.
Billly2903 wrote:Should have used the reg "VN-A911" or "VN-A115". Because that's where I ended up after hours on the awful 3-3-3 A330.
Polot wrote:I thought the purchase or dry lease of any plane older than 10 years in Vietnam was banned. How is VietJet getting around that?
Polot wrote:
I thought the purchase or dry lease of any plane older than 10 years in Vietnam was banned. How is VietJet getting around that?
During his visit to the Russian Federation, President Nguyen Xuan Phuc will also have meetings and meetings with: President of the State Duma of Russia Vyacheslav Volodi; Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Mikhail Vladimirovich Mishustin; Chairwoman of the Council of the Russian Federation Valentina Matviyenko; Chairman of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation...
President Nguyen Xuan Phuc will also attend and deliver the opening speech of the Vietnam - Russia Business Forum; meeting representatives of the Vietnamese community in Russia. At the same time, he will meet many leaders of large Russian economic groups in healthcare, oil and gas, finance...; witnessing the signing ceremony of Vietjet's direct service between Vietnam and Moscow.
Antaras wrote:A surprise new piece of information: is VJ launching Moscow services?
https://tuoitre.vn/chu-tich-nuoc-nguyen ... 938631.htmDuring his visit to the Russian Federation, President Nguyen Xuan Phuc will also have meetings and meetings with: President of the State Duma of Russia Vyacheslav Volodi; Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Mikhail Vladimirovich Mishustin; Chairwoman of the Council of the Russian Federation Valentina Matviyenko; Chairman of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation...
President Nguyen Xuan Phuc will also attend and deliver the opening speech of the Vietnam - Russia Business Forum; meeting representatives of the Vietnamese community in Russia. At the same time, he will meet many leaders of large Russian economic groups in healthcare, oil and gas, finance...; witnessing the signing ceremony of Vietjet's direct service between Vietnam and Moscow.
Unknown if this route will be served by the A333 or A321XLR.
Polot wrote:To be honest I think a A321XLR in an incredibly dense configuration as is common with VietJet would probably struggle to reliably make it to Moscow nonstop.
Antaras wrote:Polot wrote:To be honest I think a A321XLR in an incredibly dense configuration as is common with VietJet would probably struggle to reliably make it to Moscow nonstop.
Russia is a pretty low demand market, and it is even also served by VN.
Don't think that VJ can fill a nearly four-hundred-seat A333 in this group. Of course, an around 200-seat XLR would be much more sensical but unfortunately, it is unavailable in the next 2 years.
I guess that VJ will initially serve Moscow with the A333 and relatively low frequency before commissioning the A321XLR.
Billly2903 wrote:Antaras wrote:Polot wrote:To be honest I think a A321XLR in an incredibly dense configuration as is common with VietJet would probably struggle to reliably make it to Moscow nonstop.
Russia is a pretty low demand market, and it is even also served by VN.
Don't think that VJ can fill a nearly four-hundred-seat A333 in this group. Of course, an around 200-seat XLR would be much more sensical but unfortunately, it is unavailable in the next 2 years.
I guess that VJ will initially serve Moscow with the A333 and relatively low frequency before commissioning the A321XLR.
I thought Aeroflot serving HAN and SGN; a bunch of other Russian airlines serving CXR? I'd say Russian-Vietnam demands are pretty high (should we open a new topic ? this is getting off-track).
Polot wrote:I thought the purchase or dry lease of any plane older than 10 years in Vietnam was banned. How is VietJet getting around that?
cpthuy wrote:Polot wrote:I thought the purchase or dry lease of any plane older than 10 years in Vietnam was banned. How is VietJet getting around that?
Bamboo got around that with the only A319 currently operating in Vietnam
Antaras wrote:cpthuy wrote:Polot wrote:I thought the purchase or dry lease of any plane older than 10 years in Vietnam was banned. How is VietJet getting around that?
Bamboo got around that with the only A319 currently operating in Vietnam
I believe that QH registered A581 before the introduction of the mentioned regulation.
The 10-year things can not influence already-registered aircraft or VN and QH will lost ~half of their fleet...
A320B737NGCapt wrote:Antaras wrote:cpthuy wrote:Bamboo got around that with the only A319 currently operating in Vietnam
I believe that QH registered A581 before the introduction of the mentioned regulation.
The 10-year things can not influence already-registered aircraft or VN and QH will lost ~half of their fleet...
The said regulation was brought in after VNA complained about how many second hand aircraft QH were brining in. therefore QH had to abandon a quite a few agreements of A320/A321 over the 10yr mark. A very aggressive QH expansion was stop by VNA to protect its market share.
cpthuy wrote:A320B737NGCapt wrote:Antaras wrote:I believe that QH registered A581 before the introduction of the mentioned regulation.
The 10-year things can not influence already-registered aircraft or VN and QH will lost ~half of their fleet...
The said regulation was brought in after VNA complained about how many second hand aircraft QH were brining in. therefore QH had to abandon a quite a few agreements of A320/A321 over the 10yr mark. A very aggressive QH expansion was stop by VNA to protect its market share.
I thought they already have that regulation for the last 10+ years, just didn’t really enforce it until QH showed up?
For aircraft carrying passengers: No more than 10 years from the date of manufacture to the time of import into Vietnam under the purchase or hire-purchase contract; no more than 20 years from the date of shipment to the end of the lease contract.
Antaras wrote:cpthuy wrote:A320B737NGCapt wrote:
The said regulation was brought in after VNA complained about how many second hand aircraft QH were brining in. therefore QH had to abandon a quite a few agreements of A320/A321 over the 10yr mark. A very aggressive QH expansion was stop by VNA to protect its market share.
I thought they already have that regulation for the last 10+ years, just didn’t really enforce it until QH showed up?
Nah it was just announced and enforced in late 2019.
https://vov.vn/kinh-te/khong-nhap-khau- ... 980548.vovFor aircraft carrying passengers: No more than 10 years from the date of manufacture to the time of import into Vietnam under the purchase or hire-purchase contract; no more than 20 years from the date of shipment to the end of the lease contract.
cpthuy wrote:Antaras wrote:cpthuy wrote:I thought they already have that regulation for the last 10+ years, just didn’t really enforce it until QH showed up?
Nah it was just announced and enforced in late 2019.
https://vov.vn/kinh-te/khong-nhap-khau- ... 980548.vovFor aircraft carrying passengers: No more than 10 years from the date of manufacture to the time of import into Vietnam under the purchase or hire-purchase contract; no more than 20 years from the date of shipment to the end of the lease contract.
I supposed you know how to read Vietnamese. This is the 2016 edition and they already have the age requirements.
https://thuvienphapluat.vn/van-ban/Thuo ... 15470.aspx
This is from back in 2013 and in English and also have that regulation. Article 6.2
http://img2.caa.gov.vn/2016/07/28/02/36 ... ration.pdf
Nimda wrote:https://www.facebook.com/groups/indonesianplanespotter/posts/4847746811931241/
Ex 9M-XXB is now being spotted in Vietjet livery at KUL, it still retains ICBC's reg (VP-CJW) though.
Antaras wrote:Nimda wrote:https://www.facebook.com/groups/indonesianplanespotter/posts/4847746811931241/
Ex 9M-XXB is now being spotted in Vietjet livery at KUL, it still retains ICBC's reg (VP-CJW) though.
I would like to attach those pictures from the post:
Billly2903 wrote:Antaras wrote:Nimda wrote:https://www.facebook.com/groups/indonesianplanespotter/posts/4847746811931241/
Ex 9M-XXB is now being spotted in Vietjet livery at KUL, it still retains ICBC's reg (VP-CJW) though.
I would like to attach those pictures from the post:
Any chance of their delivery flight would be full of medical supplies and repatriation passengers ?
