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Ishrion
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Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:23 pm

I believe these were just loaded. Sun Country has added these destinations:

- Green Bay
- Rochester, MN (existing landline, now adding flights)
- Duluth (existing landline, now adding flights)
- Phoenix/Mesa
- St. Pete–Clearwater
- Milwaukee
- Grand Cayman
- Turks & Caicos
- Punta Gorda

The specific routes look to be:

MSP to GCM, PGD, PLS, PIE, AZA
RSW to GRB, DLH, MKE, RST
GRB to PHX

Press release should be tomorrow morning, which will encompass the RST/DLH announcements.

And now I wonder how long it'll take for a specific set of people to copy this down :stirthepot:
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:39 pm

Somewhat surprised to see MSP-AZA. Is there really enough demand to sustain MSP-PHX and MSP-AZA? I guess it's worth a shot, as AZA avoids some hassle.
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:49 pm

Milwaukee is RSW/CUN/LAS/PHX
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:50 pm

gdavis003 wrote:
Somewhat surprised to see MSP-AZA. Is there really enough demand to sustain MSP-PHX and MSP-AZA? I guess it's worth a shot, as AZA avoids some hassle.


Delta has been operating multiple widebodies (both 330s and 764s) MSP-PHX...seems like a really "hot" market right now from the Cities.
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:58 pm

I must say, I was not expecting this for Duluth. Landline has been successful, so I'm sure that booking insight led to this.
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:07 am

Ishrion wrote:
Milwaukee is RSW/CUN/LAS/PHX

Wow there's been quite an avalanche of new airlines arriving at MKE recently! This makes 3 in the past 2 months.
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:30 am

There is also non stop DLH-Phoenix being added
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:37 am

When are the start dates?
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:38 am

tys777 wrote:
There is also non stop DLH-Phoenix being added


PHX-RST as well, 2x weekly starting February 4.
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:38 am

Jshank83 wrote:
When are the start dates?


December for DLH, not sure on others.
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:50 am

Forgot to mention 1x weekly MSP-MKE from August 29. At 297 miles, I think this is Sun Country's second shortest route behind LAX-LAS.
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:02 am

Sun Country really going after G4 with PIE, PGD, and AZA.
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:10 am

rajincajun01 wrote:
Sun Country really going after G4 with PIE, PGD, and AZA.


G4 uses "switchback ramps" (for want of a better term) for boarding & unboarding at PGD. What kind of gate accommodations will Sun Country have?
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:28 am

rajincajun01 wrote:
Sun Country really going after G4 with PIE, PGD, and AZA.


Everyone is after G4 too, WN is doing the same thing at airports like SRQ, VPS, BLI, e.t.c.

"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:34 am

Seems like almost everyone is trying to copy the G4 model these days (except UA is trying to do it with RJs)
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:51 am

SY will add 5 737-800 pax jets this year.. 1st is in PAE currently. Rumor 3 this spring 2 in the fall...They want 50 737-800 by end of 2023 IIRC. Not including Amazon jets.
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:09 am

Ishrion wrote:
Forgot to mention 1x weekly MSP-MKE from August 29. At 297 miles, I think this is Sun Country's second shortest route behind LAX-LAS.


They show MSP-MSN on their current route map. That has to be closer than MKE.
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:28 am

themon wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Forgot to mention 1x weekly MSP-MKE from August 29. At 297 miles, I think this is Sun Country's second shortest route behind LAX-LAS.


They show MSP-MSN on their current route map. That has to be closer than MKE.


That's right.

LAS-LAX 236 mi
MSP-MSN 228 mi
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:48 am

SkyVoice wrote:
rajincajun01 wrote:
Sun Country really going after G4 with PIE, PGD, and AZA.


G4 uses "switchback ramps" (for want of a better term) for boarding & unboarding at PGD. What kind of gate accommodations will Sun Country have?

If they are using the same contract handed, then it will likely be the same setup. Been a long while since PIE saw more than one Domestic carrier.

And another at PGD will help a lot toward developing it into a larger facility down the road.
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:59 am

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
Seems like almost everyone is trying to copy the G4 model these days (except UA is trying to do it with RJs)

At this rate, Who will be the first to set up shop at APF-Naples? They did nearly 200,000 passengers a year in the 90’s, and see a huge amount of Seasonal private jet traffic from the Northeast and Chicago.

5/23 is 6600 feet, which is 1600 longer than Key West, and 600 shorter than PGD, so it could handle most narrow bodies.
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:43 am

themon wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
They show MSP-MSN on their current route map. That has to be closer than MKE.


I thought I read that MSPMSN isn’t coming back? That said, MSNSEA is returning later next month.
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:11 pm

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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:17 pm

SteveXC500 wrote:
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They really pulled a G4 lol, good for them. I really wonder how DLH & RST will come out
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:24 pm

I think DLH and RST might be fine. This saves passengers driving to MSP. I'm assuming SY had some data on where they were coming from and this might stimulate even more demand.
RSW's #1 destination by number of departures in Feb/Mar is MSP. All other airports in Florida, it's ATL. That tells you something.
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:40 pm

SteveXC500 wrote:
I think DLH and RST might be fine. This saves passengers driving to MSP. I'm assuming SY had some data on where they were coming from and this might stimulate even more demand.
RSW's #1 destination by number of departures in Feb/Mar is MSP. All other airports in Florida, it's ATL. That tells you something.


If anything, it will hurt the loads on their own MSP flights, but that’s about it. I’m not sure a 2x weekly on these routes really does anything to stimulate demand. It’s more of a throw a pile of crap at the wall and see what sticks
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:41 pm

SteveXC500 wrote:
I think DLH and RST might be fine. This saves passengers driving to MSP. I'm assuming SY had some data on where they were coming from and this might stimulate even more demand.
RSW's #1 destination by number of departures in Feb/Mar is MSP. All other airports in Florida, it's ATL. That tells you something.


100 percent... RSW-MSP has been the peak vacation route from MSP for a long time. Frankly, I’m surprised it took SY this long to begin expanding out into the other airports of the upper Midwest. They have the brand recognition across the region (seemingly unlike G4... who can’t get a foothold in MN).

I wouldn’t be surprised to see places like FSD and FAR next. Or tag on service to get folks into MSP for connections
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:55 pm

Surprised RST to PHX is not more than twice weekly, with a satellite Mayo Clinic. I know Sun Country is not a business traveler type of airline, but some Mayo travelers would use Sun Country instead taking the 90 minute shuttle or connection in MSP.
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:12 pm

RSW is where the Twins spring training is so I suppose that helps make it popular.
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:44 pm

JBoy wrote:
RSW is where the Twins spring training is so I suppose that helps make it popular.


For about 7 weeks, yes. It's just an extremely popular destination throughout the year though as well.
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:33 pm

flyfresno wrote:
gdavis003 wrote:
Somewhat surprised to see MSP-AZA. Is there really enough demand to sustain MSP-PHX and MSP-AZA? I guess it's worth a shot, as AZA avoids some hassle.


Delta has been operating multiple widebodies (both 330s and 764s) MSP-PHX...seems like a really "hot" market right now from the Cities.


I live about 10 minutes away from AZA. Judging by the number of Minnesota license plates I see here, I think AZA will do just fine.
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:35 pm

SteveXC500 wrote:
I think DLH and RST might be fine. This saves passengers driving to MSP. I'm assuming SY had some data on where they were coming from and this might stimulate even more demand.
RSW's #1 destination by number of departures in Feb/Mar is MSP. All other airports in Florida, it's ATL. That tells you something.

Sun Country has a decades-old strong brand in Minnesota. Establishing the brand isn’t required for DLH and RST, so that won’t be the issue it will be in other places.
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:02 pm

I'm curious; as SY 'spreads it's wings' beyond MSP and offers more p2p flying in different regions around the country....how are they able to maintain the day trip model for crew scheduling purposes?
Are they adding relief flight/cabin crew on some of these rotations?
 
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Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:14 pm

Italianflyer wrote:
I'm curious; as SY 'spreads it's wings' beyond MSP and offers more p2p flying in different regions around the country....how are they able to maintain the day trip model for crew scheduling purposes?
Are they adding relief flight/cabin crew on some of these rotations?

There are a lot of awfully times MSP flights, which I assume are partially crew shuttles

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