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Turkish Aviation May 2021

Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:34 pm

Hello there, Turkish Aviation fans.
Welcome to the May Edition :)



“Two steps forward, One step back”
It is a constant adjustment game in terms of planning for the future.
I was about to travel to Turkey next week and the total lock down happened :(
Things are changing on a daily basis with this pandemic.
While Turkey is going to a full lock down for 17 days, NY might open 100% by July1st.
In any case, we still can agree that the worst is behind us. Fingers Crossed.

-This month we might see TK fly to EWR and YVR. Looks like, first week of EWR might be operated by 789s and then switch to A333. I almost got a ticket on one of the first flights out of EWR, but opted out. I really do not want to deal with any more cancellations and ticket changes at the moment.
-One of the biggest news of past month was the TK’s MAX decision. TK cancelled 10 frames and converted 40 to options, to be decided by Dec.
-As always, a.net member “mafaky” was right. Back in January, he argued that M11 metro line from Kagithane to IST would not be open by now. I would always like to hear his next prediction on this.

Please continue and Be Safe.

*You can find last month’s thread here: Turkish Aviation April 2021
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:56 pm

Thanks for a new thread. Nice shot of the new A350 on the last post in previous thread. Hopefully we will see these on a few European routes
for most of the year so at least we can bag a few once things have eased a bit.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Sat May 01, 2021 3:24 pm

TAV purchased 85% stake in Kazakhstans Almaty Airport and associated fuel and catering businesses. Almaty is the first airport in TAV’s portfolio where the company owns the airport instead of a time-limited concession.

TAV plans to double the capacity of the airport including the construction of a new terminal

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http://www.tavhavalimanlari.com.tr/en-E ... ty-airport
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Sat May 01, 2021 3:36 pm

Several Latin America media sources reporting that TK wants to make Colombia its 'hub' in Latin America, connecting nations in the region through its agreement with Avianca.

https://www.reportur.com/aerolineas/202 ... noamerica/

Lets see what comes of it in post-pandemic world.
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Sat May 01, 2021 3:40 pm

LAXintl wrote:
TAV purchased 85% stake in Kazakhstans Almaty Airport and associated fuel and catering businesses.

That is great for TAV.
I was in Almaty for work, probably 9 years ago and the airport was not that bad.
But 9 years is a long time and even it looked dated then. TK used to fly 738s, 739s there. It was a long 6 hour flight from IST.
Now, I see that they even use the 789s occasionally.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Sat May 01, 2021 9:06 pm

LAXintl wrote:
TAV plans to double the capacity of the airport including the construction of a new terminal


Looks very nice.

I find it interesting that Turkish companies are so strong with infrastructure projects across Middle East, Balkans, Africa and CIS, be it highways, office buildings, airports, shopping centers etc.

What makes Turkish companies to well suited in the construction sector?
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Sun May 02, 2021 11:05 am

Latest news, Ministry of Health of Turkey will not require PCR tests from arriving pax from the following countries starting May15th:
Hong Kong
China
Taiwan
Vietnam
Australia
New Zealand
Singapore
Thailand
South Korea
Israel
Japan
U.K.
Latvia
Luxemburg
Ukraine
Estonia
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Sun May 02, 2021 12:28 pm

OA260 wrote:
Nice shot of the new A350 on the last post in previous thread. Hopefully we will see these on a few European routes for most of the year so at least we can bag a few once things have eased a bit.

I logged TC-LGC twice last week at Amsterdam Airport.
It was my first sighting of the A350 of Turkish Airlines.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Sun May 02, 2021 1:39 pm

mercure1 wrote:
LAXintl wrote:
TAV plans to double the capacity of the airport including the construction of a new terminal


Looks very nice.

I find it interesting that Turkish companies are so strong with infrastructure projects across Middle East, Balkans, Africa and CIS, be it highways, office buildings, airports, shopping centers etc.

What makes Turkish companies to well suited in the construction sector?


Historical/cultural links with Kazakhstan and CIS countries, or Middle East as well as Balkans.
Relatively cheap labor
And strong political involvement from the top, who supports Turkish business' development in these countries, the perfect recipe for this business to flourish.

Now for ALA that's quite an expansion... of course Air Astana has big plans to connect East/West with their fleet and FlyAristan is growing well too, but Im not sure if this is really required...
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Sun May 02, 2021 1:42 pm

LAXintl wrote:
TAV purchased 85% stake in Kazakhstans Almaty Airport and associated fuel and catering businesses. Almaty is the first airport in TAV’s portfolio where the company owns the airport instead of a time-limited concession.

TAV plans to double the capacity of the airport including the construction of a new terminal

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http://www.tavhavalimanlari.com.tr/en-E ... ty-airport


This is a picture of DOH Hamad International, not sure if there's a rendering of TAV's plan for ALA somewhere?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Sun May 02, 2021 6:29 pm

Seems the TAV PR department used the wrong image for ALA in their press release.

Here is the correct one they posted on Twitter.

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0NknQCWQAE ... name=large
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Mon May 03, 2021 1:43 am

Well, IST-YVR started finally :)
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/THY75
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Mon May 03, 2021 9:14 pm

Another great news:

TK made profit in Q1!!! :D

In the first quarter of the year, the airline made 438 million liras of profit with the majority coming from cargo ops. Of course that number isn't that high, but considering that Q1 is the toughest period for an airline and we're still in a global pandemic, that number is a remarkable achievement!
(In comparison other airlines such as LH for example are still making big losses... viewtopic.php?p=22769349#p22769349)

Source (in turkish): https://www.instagram.com/p/COawNmYBv_E/
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Tue May 04, 2021 7:34 am

Here is a video of inaugural TK75 arriving into Vancouver with ATC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHiyYY6 ... eyetrapper
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Tue May 04, 2021 11:35 am

Wow, great video, thanks. And what a gorgeous looking day. Congratulations to TK and Vancouver. In few weeks EWR.
I really do not know if there is any other cities left in N.America TK has its eyes on.
Seattle, Detroit, Orlando, Denver, Las Vegas, Phoenix....
What do you think??
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Tue May 04, 2021 11:53 am

Anyone know the load on the inaugural flight to YVR?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Tue May 04, 2021 11:54 am

I am confused with all these entry/restriction changes..Are US/Canadian citizens allowed in Turkey without vaccine or negative pcr? And conversely are turkish citizens allowed freely in US/Canada
? If not, how is TK going to fill all these long-haul flights? Is it a bit premature of them, considering the fact that there is still..a covid "haze" about who can travel where and how (the same for transfer pax also)..
Flying is breathing..no planes no life..
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Tue May 04, 2021 12:45 pm

Blerg wrote:
Anyone know the load on the inaugural flight to YVR?

About half full, 167 inbound, 157 outbound.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Tue May 04, 2021 12:53 pm

marcogr12 wrote:
I am confused with all these entry/restriction changes..Are US/Canadian citizens allowed in Turkey without vaccine or negative pcr? And conversely are turkish citizens allowed freely in US/Canada
? If not, how is TK going to fill all these long-haul flights? Is it a bit premature of them, considering the fact that there is still..a covid "haze" about who can travel where and how (the same for transfer pax also)..

For USA; US citizens can enter Turkey with ONLY a 72hr Negative PCR test, ( no vaccinations rules yet), Turks can travel to USA with PCR tests only also.
For Canada, Canadians can enter Turkey with ONLY a 72hr Negative PCR test, Turks can not travel to Canada.
As usual, this route has been in the works for years. TK does not depend on O&D demand, since IST is a huge hub serving 236 destinations. And let's not forget Cargo.
I think it is only 3 x weekly flight and eventually the loads will get better.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Wed May 05, 2021 9:46 am

TK787 wrote:
Wow, great video, thanks. And what a gorgeous looking day. Congratulations to TK and Vancouver. In few weeks EWR.
I really do not know if there is any other cities left in N.America TK has its eyes on.
Seattle, Detroit, Orlando, Denver, Las Vegas, Phoenix....
What do you think??


Looks like EWR will finally take off this month. I've seen Turkish Airlines billboards up & down the turnpike this past weekend.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Wed May 05, 2021 10:59 am

I just came across this video last night. It is always fun to watch other people travel these days:)
This is a flight from Gothenburg to Istanbul to Tashkent on TK 321NEO and 789 in J Class.
Still no pillows on board ???? Why?????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePGEJxCysfk
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Wed May 05, 2021 2:57 pm

TK787 wrote:
Wow, great video, thanks. And what a gorgeous looking day. Congratulations to TK and Vancouver. In few weeks EWR.
I really do not know if there is any other cities left in N.America TK has its eyes on.
Seattle, Detroit, Orlando, Denver, Las Vegas, Phoenix....
What do you think??


Well, before the pandemic the CEO said in an interview that they were looking at Seattle, Las Vegas and Orlando. I think those will definitely come when long haul fully recovers
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Wed May 05, 2021 3:51 pm

Las Vegas and Orlando is too much of a leisure market I imagine.
Not sure about Phoenix or Denver...
Seattle YES, how about Dallas, Detroit, Charlotte...

I just can not imagine anything else besides these cities in the US.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Wed May 05, 2021 4:43 pm

The fifth A350, TC-LGE, has just taken off from Toulouse for delivery.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Wed May 05, 2021 8:19 pm

EWR first flight is now scheduled with 777-300ER instead of 787-9
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation May 2021

Wed May 05, 2021 9:58 pm

    MoonC wrote:
    The fifth A350, TC-LGE, has just taken off from Toulouse for delivery.


    Finally :checkeredflag:
     
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    Thu May 06, 2021 12:52 am

    Any chance of BOS seeing a aircraft change??
     
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    Thu May 06, 2021 11:48 am

    jerseyewr777 wrote:
    EWR first flight is now scheduled with 777-300ER instead of 787-9

    Mmmm. TK does that :(
    That is one of the reasons I did not want to be on the first flight.
    I was on the first TK 787-9 flight from the US to Turkey, IAD; few years back.
    But I will most likely fly out of EWR instead of JFK in the future, since EWR is easier to get to from where I live.

    BOS, is the only 332 route left among the US flights, maybe it is the lowest demand.
    Which brings to questions, could IST-BOS go down to A321N??
     
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    Fri May 07, 2021 4:56 pm

    The UK has added Turkey to the red list meaning hotel quarantine is required.

    www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-a ... 0.html?amp

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