Good work! I was going just based off that spreadsheet (which I guess I should've known better lol), those photos/videos that you provided do indeed show her with GE engines. I guess the theory that the 787s will all be from one airline is blown to bits then. That opens up some more possibilities on who these aircraft could be from...
Per Boeing unfilled orders, ANA has 8 789s with RRs and 1 789 with GE remaining. So, unless ANA is taking leased aircraft, it appears they will be taking most, if not all, RR 789s then.
The engine selection on Boeing's page is not always fully up to date of course, LHs selection for the 787 for example is still Not Selected even though the RR engine order was publicly announced. We'll see what happens.
It could also be the case that LH won't use the seats that are on the white tails they will get, but won't install their own product on these planes. They might another product that is also used by another airline, or better a product that would have been used by another airline that has cancelled or deferred orders making the seats available on such short notice. If this is the case it could be any of the available whitetails, it could even be mix of different original customers.
I believe that Boeing's orders page is incorrect, especially if you say that it currently lists them receiving 8 789s with RRs. LN1091 is the first of the GE 789s. Before that, there are only four RR 789s left.
Good point, what about ZE437 ANA 787-9 line 1095? Seems to be RR and also Everett.
Btw. LH CEO Spohr stated that 4 will be from Everett, one from Charleston. That should be narrowing things down
1095 also GEhttps://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/13 ... 11040?s=21
Going off this info (4 PAE, 1 CHS), let's do some more investigative work lol. Going to Lufthansa Group's original press release (linked below), they state that "Due to the dramatic impact of the coronavirus pandemic on global aviation, aircraft that had been ordered by some airlines could not be delivered in the past twelve months. Lufthansa held talks with Boeing and found a way to buy five 787-9 that were already manufactured.
"https://www.lufthansagroup.com/en/newsr ... craft.html
I believe that means that these birds are (probably) over 1 year old (or will be by the time of delivery), BUT the deliveries must've been delayed due to the covid situation, which rules out aircraft that have been stored for a very long time like LN688 (I'd assume that the press release would mean 2020 build). Now time to look at undelivered RR engined 787-9s that are over 1 year old, let's split it up by PAE and CHS builds. I'll still be referencing the original spreadsheet, link here:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... dit#gid=19
To try to retain accuracy, I'll cross-check information with this production list:https://www.planespotters.net/productio ... /787/787-9
LN #/Airline/Type/Registration/Roll Out Date
LN955 Norwegian 789 G-CLJN 11/25/19
LN971 Norwegian 789 SE-RXA 1/9/20
LN983 Norwegian 789 SE-RXB 2/4/20
LN997 Gulf Air 789 A9C-FH 3/4/20
LN1011 Norwegian 789 SE-RXC 5/13/20
LN1023 ANA 789 JA934A 6/16/20
LN1033 ANA 789 JA924A 7/15/20
LN1039 Gulf Air 789 A9C-FI 7/31/20
LN1083 ANA 789 JA927A 1/20/21
LN1085 Gulf Air 789 A9C-FJ 1/28/21
LN988 Air Europa 789 EC-NGQ 2/20/20
LN992 Air Europa 789 EC-NGR 3/10/20
LN1028 Air Europa 789 EC-NIL 6/24/20
LN1036 LOT 789 SP-LSH 7/17/20
LN1042 Air Europa 789 EC-NJH 8/7/20
LN1046 LOT 789 SP-LSI 8/18/20
LN1060 Air Premia 789 HL8388 9/24/20
LN1070 Air Europa 789 EC-NLR 10/26/20
LN1076 ANA 789 JA926A 1/6/21
LN1082 Air Premia 789 HL8389 3/3/21
LN1086 LAN 789 CC-BGQ 1/18/21 (Note: Not listed on planespotters)
LN1092 LAN 789 CC-BGR ??? (Note: Not listed on planespotters)
LN1090 Air Europa 789 EC-NDM or EC-NMD (conflict between 787 tables & planespotters) ???
Four aircraft have to be from PAE, while one is from CHS. It really
looks like the four aircraft are indeed the Norwegian 787-9s. One other combination I could see is the G- reg Norwegian (odd one out with the G- reg) with 3 Gulf Airs, but I'd put money that the four from PAE are the Norwegians.
Now the trick is figuring out who the final CHS 789 is from:
From my understanding with an internal source, Air Premia is taking theirs for sure, so that's not an option.
The odd one out in the CHS production list is ANA 789 JA926A. The only RR ANA 789 from CHS, and it's already been established that ANA doesn't want the RR 787s. I'd say that one is a possibility.
If that one is not an option, I could easily see it being one of the LOTs (LN1036 is leased from ALC, LN1046 is leased from CIT) or maybe one of the LANs (LATAM Group have sent so many A359s and 787s to the desert).
Regardless, it looks like Lufthansa will need to spend some time (and money) configuring all of these to their specific standards and will likely not retain the existing cabins (for fleet commonality).
Feel free to add or critique this as usual
Love to see the discussion and ideas being bounced back and forth, hopefully we can get to the bottom of this mystery!