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aristoenigma
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Who bought 747-8i LN 1435 LH ntu

Sun May 23, 2021 11:00 pm

After a few months I figured the unidentified purchaser might have emerged as a result of human nature. The theories tossed around include::
1) USAF as a spare for the new AF1 but that has been shot down due to transparency
2) USAF for E5 program but again that not likely able to be hidden from public eye. (the E5 needs four similar aircraft from the get go eg. two stored newest LH PAX 748s plus LN 1435 plus LN 1446 were my uneducated guess)
3) some convoluted scheme to convert a new 748 PAX to freight on spec provided the price was compelling enough and pull through of enough additional 748is from LH and maybe Korean could be arranged with Boeing selling 787 and 777 replacements for PAX. The possible listing of LN 1446 for 95M with refences to freighter conversion added this farfetched idea for me
4) another wealthy Gulf state for VIP conversion although if saturation matters arguably there are too many 747 VIPs already in the Gulf with Qatar Amiri trying to sell one of three VIPs and Saudis rejecting LN 1446 in favor of twins. Maybe UAE? But why hidden identity?
5) new Cryptocurrency billionaire?

Any ideas?
 
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Re: Who bought 747-8i LN 1435 LH ntu

Mon May 24, 2021 3:54 am

Currently it is being used as a test plane for the VC-25B program. Originally the USAF was considering buying 3 VC-25B so 2 would always be in flying condition if one were undergoing heavy maintenance or modifications. I wonder if the USAF could have bought it as a third VC-25B?
 
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Re: Who bought 747-8i LN 1435 LH ntu

Mon May 24, 2021 8:22 am

My guess is that the USAF may have bought it as a parts doner to keep the two upcoming VC-25B's going in the 30+ years of their service life.
 
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Re: Who bought 747-8i LN 1435 LH ntu

Mon May 24, 2021 9:11 am

It has always been with Boeing "under control" no airline or VIP conversion company could interfere. So taking this for spares would make much sense. New or better passenger -8s are history.
 
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Re: Who bought 747-8i LN 1435 LH ntu

Mon May 24, 2021 4:49 pm

If the USAF bought it, there should be a line-item in the last Defense Budget and one would think somebody in the media would have picked that up.
 
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Re: Who bought 747-8i LN 1435 LH ntu

Mon May 24, 2021 6:29 pm

Please don't shout me down, but could it have been sold for scrap. There were rumours where I work that a B 747 was possibly coming to be scrapped. I naturally assumed it to be a 400, however, we were asked the weight of a GEnx engine for stands etc. I may have added 2 and 2 making 5, but just a thought. This would be in Europe for info.
 
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Re: Who bought 747-8i LN 1435 LH ntu

Mon May 24, 2021 6:43 pm

It's funny how Google can lead to a treasure trove of information...

https://www.scramble.nl/civil-news/boei ... 8-l-n-1435
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Re: Who bought 747-8i LN 1435 LH ntu

Mon May 24, 2021 7:02 pm

berty320 wrote:
Please don't shout me down, but could it have been sold for scrap. There were rumours where I work that a B 747 was possibly coming to be scrapped. I naturally assumed it to be a 400, however, we were asked the weight of a GEnx engine for stands etc. I may have added 2 and 2 making 5, but just a thought. This would be in Europe for info.



Maybe it's N458BJ which has been stored in France since 2012?
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Re: Who bought 747-8i LN 1435 LH ntu

Mon May 24, 2021 7:50 pm

That article and similar reports on airliners.net says "in its February orders and deliveries update, Boeing showed that it has logged an Unidentified order .... which is not going to an airline but is reportedly going to a VIP-customer. What kind of VIP customer stays unidentified for two plus months?
 
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Re: Who bought 747-8i LN 1435 LH ntu

Mon May 24, 2021 8:13 pm

Boeing757100 wrote:
berty320 wrote:
Please don't shout me down, but could it have been sold for scrap. There were rumours where I work that a B 747 was possibly coming to be scrapped. I naturally assumed it to be a 400, however, we were asked the weight of a GEnx engine for stands etc. I may have added 2 and 2 making 5, but just a thought. This would be in Europe for info.



Maybe it's N458BJ which has been stored in France since 2012?


Whoever the owner is, I would be surprised that scrapping pays a loss-free price. On the other hand, the pandemic has already brought other surprises.
N458BJ is definitely not in the "Queen of the Skies" category though.
 
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Re: Who bought 747-8i LN 1435 LH ntu

Mon May 24, 2021 8:31 pm

aristoenigma wrote:
What kind of VIP customer stays unidentified for two plus months?


One that doesn't want to advertise (yet) that it just bought a very expensive airplane?
 
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Re: Who bought 747-8i LN 1435 LH ntu

Mon May 24, 2021 8:53 pm

Kudos to that customer for succeeding in keeping the lid on the info, Human nature and the internet tends to let the cat out of the bag inadvertently eventually.
 
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Re: Who bought 747-8i LN 1435 LH ntu

Mon May 24, 2021 9:28 pm

Boeing757100 wrote:
Maybe it's N458BJ which has been stored in France since 2012?


Thinking out loud here: Hmmm...maybe planespotters.net can be of some help here. Let's see. (type, type, type) 747-8. Sort by Registration. (scroll scroll scroll) Scroll down to the Ns. N458BJ. Line number: 1446. Is this line number 1435? My interpretation: Nope, it is not LN 1435.

Source: https://www.planespotters.net/productio ... 8?sort=reg
Since 60s: AA AC AS BA BD BF BN BR(85) BY B6 CO CZ(16) DG DL EA EI EN FI FL FT F9 HA HP ICX JI JQ J7 KE KL KS LH MC NW OC OO OZ(87) OZ(88) PA PI PN(97) PT QF QQ RM RO RV(99) RV(16) RW SK SM SQ S4 TI TS TW UA UK US UZ VS VX WA WN WS W7 XV YV YX(13) ZZ 9K
 
aristoenigma
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Re: Who bought 747-8i LN 1435 LH ntu

Mon May 24, 2021 10:14 pm

In fairness to Boeing757100 I think his reference to N458BJ / LN 1446 was in answer to the post number 6 by berty320 abouta 747 being scrapped in Europe
 
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Re: Who bought 747-8i LN 1435 LH ntu

Mon May 24, 2021 10:47 pm

aeromoe wrote:
Boeing757100 wrote:
Maybe it's N458BJ which has been stored in France since 2012?


Thinking out loud here: Hmmm...maybe planespotters.net can be of some help here. Let's see. (type, type, type) 747-8. Sort by Registration. (scroll scroll scroll) Scroll down to the Ns. N458BJ. Line number: 1446. Is this line number 1435? My interpretation: Nope, it is not LN 1435.

Source: https://www.planespotters.net/productio ... 8?sort=reg




I was not referring to line 1435. I was simply trying to answer the question posted in reply #6, as I knew that frame was stored in Europe.
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Re: Who bought 747-8i LN 1435 LH ntu

Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:51 am

berty320 wrote:
Please don't shout me down, but could it have been sold for scrap. There were rumours where I work that a B 747 was possibly coming to be scrapped. I naturally assumed it to be a 400, however, we were asked the weight of a GEnx engine for stands etc. I may have added 2 and 2 making 5, but just a thought. This would be in Europe for info.


Fascinating possibility berty320. Have you heard any more rumors on whether LN 1446 is headed to scrap? Is the rumored 95M asking price alleged by CSDS close to reasonable? Not sure whether the sum of the parts of a new green 748 might add to.95M.

This thread is about LN 1435 but the fate of LN 1446 seems germaine.

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