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Emirates adds MIA from July 21st, 2021

Tue May 25, 2021 1:15 am

https://worldairlinenews.com/2021/05/24 ... -to-miami/

Exciting news! This route makes sense in my eyes as FLL didn’t offer too much with just JetBlue.
 
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Tue May 25, 2021 1:35 am

Great news. I had originally heard this would replace Fort Lauderdale and Orlando. Not sure if still the plan, but Emirates had a press release saying Orlando would come back June 1st (or 2nd?) and now Orlando has been zero'd out for June (still available for July).
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Tue May 25, 2021 2:03 am

Great news. I expected that when EK returned to So. Fla, it would be to MIA. It just makes more sense for them. I’m a bit surprised that it was this soon but glad to see it. I hope this doesn’t replace MCO as well and both routes can co-exist.
 
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Tue May 25, 2021 2:53 am

Brickell305 wrote:
Great news. I expected that when EK returned to So. Fla, it would be to MIA. It just makes more sense for them. I’m a bit surprised that it was this soon but glad to see it. I hope this doesn’t replace MCO as well and both routes can co-exist.


I think this move from FLL to MIA has been in EK's plans for quite a while. EK has been flying semi-regular cargo flights with their passenger B77W's to MIA throughout the pandemic. These flights usually have parked in the Eastern "U", or in the LATAM maintenance lot next to Cargo City. However, some of the flights have gone over to the South Terminal to get familiar with the gate they plan to use when passenger flights start.
 
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Re: Emirates adds MIA from July 21st, 2021

Tue May 25, 2021 3:05 am

FLL never made any sense. Who in the UAE knows what FLL is lol?
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Re: Emirates adds MIA from July 21st, 2021

Tue May 25, 2021 3:08 am

FLL was always an odd choice.

Even B6 now has a large (for them) operation in MIA.
 
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Tue May 25, 2021 3:21 am

The reasoning for FLL I thought was for its proximity to Port Everglades to cater to cruise ship crew members from Southeast Asia.
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Tue May 25, 2021 3:23 am

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The reasoning for FLL I thought was for its proximity to Port Everglades to cater to cruise ship crew members from Southeast Asia.

You could say the same for MIA and the Port of Miami which is a larger cruise port.
 
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Tue May 25, 2021 6:04 am

If Qatar and Tk can make this work, why not them? Just off of influencers this route will make money lol.
 
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Re: Emirates adds MIA from July 21st, 2021

Tue May 25, 2021 10:20 am

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If Qatar and Tk can make this work, why not them? Just off of influencers this route will make money lol.

This is what I thought, especially re TK. TK has been serving MIA for years and apparently doing well. EK will be competing for a lot of the same connection flows. QR obviously has a OneWorld partner in MIA but I don't know how much of a benefit that is to them in terms of connections or OW customers booking them over competition. However, they by all accounts are doing well too. I wish EK success.
 
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Re: Emirates adds MIA from July 21st, 2021

Tue May 25, 2021 3:53 pm

Please don't post childish nonsene and please keep politics out of the discussion.
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Tue May 25, 2021 4:05 pm

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FLL never made any sense. Who in the UAE knows what FLL is lol?

Not sure why my post responding to this question was deleted but not the question itself, so let me try again?
Who in the UAE knows where Dulles or Tacoma is? EK sold FLL as Miami. People bought a ticket to Miami much in the same way people by a ticket to Washington or to Seattle. Heck, millions of people buy a ticket to New York and end up in a completely different state, in New Jersey.
Whether FLL ever made sense or not I'm pretty sure the people at EK knew better.
 
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Tue May 25, 2021 6:09 pm

does anyone know when this will be bookable or on sale? Im trying to target a bunch of inaugurals with covid being not much of a problem anymore
 
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Re: Emirates adds MIA from July 21st, 2021

Tue May 25, 2021 6:10 pm

This is either cargo driven or a new cruise corporate client driven.

The international market out of MIA is predominantly South America and Europe, middle east/Asia etc is tiny compared to those and not enough to sustain 3 airlines.

Someone will call it quits eventually, and my money is on EK pulling out first.
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Tue May 25, 2021 6:17 pm

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Someone will call it quits eventually, and my money is on EK pulling out first.


Good luck and be prepared to lose money because they have plans for the long run. Don't have to believe me, just wait and see.
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Re: Emirates adds MIA from July 21st, 2021

Tue May 25, 2021 6:41 pm

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Heck, millions of people buy a ticket to New York and end up in a completely different state, in New Jersey.

These people come to visit New York City, not New York State. Newark is conveniently close to Manhattan. It doesn't matter to them that the airport is in another state than the city.
 
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Tue May 25, 2021 8:29 pm

Is this even real?? One mile at a time says its a rumor https://onemileatatime.com/emirates-miami/

Cant buy any tickets
 
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Re: Emirates adds MIA from July 21st, 2021

Tue May 25, 2021 8:39 pm

Miami wrote:
Boiler905 wrote:
Someone will call it quits eventually, and my money is on EK pulling out first.


Good luck and be prepared to lose money because they have plans for the long run. Don't have to believe me, just wait and see.


How well did their long run plan of operating 100 A380s work out? Not great.

:duck:
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Tue May 25, 2021 9:39 pm

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Is this even real?? One mile at a time says its a rumor https://onemileatatime.com/emirates-miami/

Cant buy any tickets


Yes. Just wait.
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Tue May 25, 2021 9:40 pm

Boiler905 wrote:
Miami wrote:
Boiler905 wrote:
Someone will call it quits eventually, and my money is on EK pulling out first.


Good luck and be prepared to lose money because they have plans for the long run. Don't have to believe me, just wait and see.


How well did their long run plan of operating 100 A380s work out? Not great.

:duck:


You can blame a good portion on COVID-19.
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Re: Emirates adds MIA from July 21st, 2021

Wed May 26, 2021 2:26 am

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FLL never made any sense. Who in the UAE knows what FLL is lol?

You do know DXB is a super connector hub and most people are flying in from other places, right?

I for one grew up in FLL and live in SE Asia, so this flight was perfect for me. Also, I noticed quite a few people on the way back were heading to India (big Indian diaspora in Broward and north Dade) as well as people going to the Philippines (Fort Lauderdale is the largest cruise port in the US and most cruise workers are Filipino).
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Wed May 26, 2021 2:34 am

Coal wrote:
stl07 wrote:
FLL never made any sense. Who in the UAE knows what FLL is lol?

You do know DXB is a super connector hub and most people are flying in from other places, right?

I for one grew up in FLL and live in SE Asia, so this flight was perfect for me. Also, I noticed quite a few people on the way back were heading to India (big Indian diaspora in Broward and north Dade) as well as people going to the Philippines (Fort Lauderdale is the largest cruise port in the US and most cruise workers are Filipino).

Port Everglades is not even the biggest cruise port in the metro area. It's third in Florida as well after Port of Miami and Cape Canaveral.

https://www.ship-technology.com/feature ... ise-ports/
 
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Wed May 26, 2021 3:00 am

Coal wrote:
stl07 wrote:
FLL never made any sense. Who in the UAE knows what FLL is lol?

You do know DXB is a super connector hub and most people are flying in from other places, right?

I for one grew up in FLL and live in SE Asia, so this flight was perfect for me. Also, I noticed quite a few people on the way back were heading to India (big Indian diaspora in Broward and north Dade) as well as people going to the Philippines (Fort Lauderdale is the largest cruise port in the US and most cruise workers are Filipino).


I would have never guessed that South Florida had an "Indian diaspora." Do you think these people heading to India from FLL were connecting from other US cities (lets say ATL, AUS, RDU etc)?
I'm asking because I've never heard of an Indian community in the Miami/F.L area.
 
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acavpics wrote:
Coal wrote:
stl07 wrote:
FLL never made any sense. Who in the UAE knows what FLL is lol?

You do know DXB is a super connector hub and most people are flying in from other places, right?

I for one grew up in FLL and live in SE Asia, so this flight was perfect for me. Also, I noticed quite a few people on the way back were heading to India (big Indian diaspora in Broward and north Dade) as well as people going to the Philippines (Fort Lauderdale is the largest cruise port in the US and most cruise workers are Filipino).


I would have never guessed that South Florida had an "Indian diaspora." Do you think these people heading to India from FLL were connecting from other US cities (lets say ATL, AUS, RDU etc)?
I'm asking because I've never heard of an Indian community in the Miami/F.L area.

There definitely is an Indian diaspora in the Broward area.
 
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Wed May 26, 2021 3:49 am

Miami wrote:
Boiler905 wrote:
Someone will call it quits eventually, and my money is on EK pulling out first.


Good luck and be prepared to lose money because they have plans for the long run. Don't have to believe me, just wait and see.


If this is true, this must be a happy moment for you given you have waited for this for so long :D
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Wed May 26, 2021 3:55 am

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Is this even real?? One mile at a time says its a rumor https://onemileatatime.com/emirates-miami/

Cant buy any tickets


its real, the plan was always to bring MIA on board and it will start. Whether or not it is the exact date in 2 months or not, I'm not 100% sure, but it is going to start.
 
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Wed May 26, 2021 4:44 am

Miami wrote:
PITFlyer330 wrote:
Is this even real?? One mile at a time says its a rumor https://onemileatatime.com/emirates-miami/

Cant buy any tickets


Yes. Just wait.


To be fair, you've said the same about a lot of MIA/Asia flights and we're still waiting, even pre-COVID.
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Wed May 26, 2021 4:48 am

Brickell305 wrote:
acavpics wrote:
Coal wrote:
You do know DXB is a super connector hub and most people are flying in from other places, right?

I for one grew up in FLL and live in SE Asia, so this flight was perfect for me. Also, I noticed quite a few people on the way back were heading to India (big Indian diaspora in Broward and north Dade) as well as people going to the Philippines (Fort Lauderdale is the largest cruise port in the US and most cruise workers are Filipino).


I would have never guessed that South Florida had an "Indian diaspora." Do you think these people heading to India from FLL were connecting from other US cities (lets say ATL, AUS, RDU etc)?
I'm asking because I've never heard of an Indian community in the Miami/F.L area.

There definitely is an Indian diaspora in the Broward area.

A lot of them come to the U for medicine or marine bio as well and then stay in South Florida
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Wed May 26, 2021 5:39 am

gatibosgru wrote:
Miami wrote:
PITFlyer330 wrote:
Is this even real?? One mile at a time says its a rumor https://onemileatatime.com/emirates-miami/

Cant buy any tickets


Yes. Just wait.


To be fair, you've said the same about a lot of MIA/Asia flights and we're still waiting, even pre-COVID.


No? I never said anything about Asia flights being official. All rumors. Try again.
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Wed May 26, 2021 7:31 am

Boiler905 wrote:
Miami wrote:
Boiler905 wrote:
Someone will call it quits eventually, and my money is on EK pulling out first.


Good luck and be prepared to lose money because they have plans for the long run. Don't have to believe me, just wait and see.


How well did their long run plan of operating 100 A380s work out? Not great.

:duck:


If I had a Dollar for every post bashing EK and their relationship with the A380. Unlike a lot of airlines Emirates has committed to the A380 post COVID-19. Just leave it!!

Good luck to EK and MIA. Sounds logical and a stronger route than FLL, especially in premium cabins from what I can tell.

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Wed May 26, 2021 10:26 am

looks like the Orlando service begins 4 days a week in July now. M W F Sat.
 
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Wed May 26, 2021 10:30 am

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looks like the Orlando service begins 4 days a week in July now. M W F Sat.


Just did a quick search. The route will be resumed from 2 July.
 
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Wed May 26, 2021 12:57 pm

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This is either cargo driven or a new cruise corporate client driven.

The international market out of MIA is predominantly South America and Europe, middle east/Asia etc is tiny compared to those and not enough to sustain 3 airlines.

Someone will call it quits eventually, and my money is on EK pulling out first.


And yet it supported 4 airlines pre-Covid if we include TK: QR, EK, TK, LY. I suspect LY is mostly O&D, TK is more of a hybrid Europe/Asia connecting airline, whereas EK and QR are predominantly for Asia bound passengers.
 
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Wed May 26, 2021 1:54 pm

acavpics wrote:
Coal wrote:
stl07 wrote:
FLL never made any sense. Who in the UAE knows what FLL is lol?

You do know DXB is a super connector hub and most people are flying in from other places, right?

I for one grew up in FLL and live in SE Asia, so this flight was perfect for me. Also, I noticed quite a few people on the way back were heading to India (big Indian diaspora in Broward and north Dade) as well as people going to the Philippines (Fort Lauderdale is the largest cruise port in the US and most cruise workers are Filipino).


I would have never guessed that South Florida had an "Indian diaspora." Do you think these people heading to India from FLL were connecting from other US cities (lets say ATL, AUS, RDU etc)?
I'm asking because I've never heard of an Indian community in the Miami/F.L area.


If JetBlue has connections to MIA, quite a few will be connecting at MIA to India and surrounding countries, especially from Atlanta and some Caribbean cities. I am still puzzled why EK has not started ATL. Both QR and TK are there too. Most AUS passengers just drive to IAH to catch the flight or connect via IAH or DFW.
 
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Wed May 26, 2021 2:03 pm

Brickell305 wrote:
Coal wrote:
stl07 wrote:
FLL never made any sense. Who in the UAE knows what FLL is lol?

You do know DXB is a super connector hub and most people are flying in from other places, right?

I for one grew up in FLL and live in SE Asia, so this flight was perfect for me. Also, I noticed quite a few people on the way back were heading to India (big Indian diaspora in Broward and north Dade) as well as people going to the Philippines (Fort Lauderdale is the largest cruise port in the US and most cruise workers are Filipino).

Port Everglades is not even the biggest cruise port in the metro area. It's third in Florida as well after Port of Miami and Cape Canaveral.

https://www.ship-technology.com/feature ... ise-ports/

Regardless that cruise crew traffic is quite low yield, and largely to MNL
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Wed May 26, 2021 4:33 pm

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Regardless that cruise crew traffic is quite low yield, and largely to MNL

It's a corporate contract like any other corporate contract.
Here's a line directly from Princess Cruises web site:
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Wed May 26, 2021 5:20 pm

Miami wrote:
Boiler905 wrote:
Miami wrote:
Good luck and be prepared to lose money because they have plans for the long run. Don't have to believe me, just wait and see.

How well did their long run plan of operating 100 A380s work out? Not great.

You can blame a good portion on COVID-19.

Maybe, but you can mostly blame a painfully questionable business plan (not necessarily model), that anyone should've been able to see would eventually suffer severe disruption-- from a mile away.

No matter how much of an AvGeek and/or fanboy one may be, you really have to doubt the wisdom of more than 100 A380 + nearly 200 B777 fleet, with nothing smaller, for an industry known to have enormous upheavals on a consistent ~10yr basis. Granted, COVID was a downturn like no other, but at the end of the day, that's what it was: yet another decade's downturn.

We were well overdue, and EK's A380 debacle hadn't truly been tested in one yet. The last major downturn (the 2008 financial + fuel crises), EK barely had any A380s and its 777 fleet was a fraction of what it was pre-Covid.


acavpics wrote:
I would have never guessed that South Florida had an "Indian diaspora." Do you think these people heading to India from FLL were connecting from other US cities (lets say ATL, AUS, RDU etc)?
I'm asking because I've never heard of an Indian community in the Miami/F.L area.

Would you also have guessed that it has an enormous southern African (particularly S.Africa) diaspora as well, and quite a wealthy one? Another great feed stock for these type of airlines.
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Re: Emirates adds MIA from July 21st, 2021

Wed May 26, 2021 5:26 pm

If it's cruise driven, this makes no sense given how the cruise lines refuse to sail from Florida because of problems on the end of the state's government. That means that adding MIA has to be cargo driven, possibly via a fifth freedom such as BCN (which would indicate Inditex cargo).
 
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Fri May 28, 2021 12:47 pm

Any updates on the matter?

A july launch date seems impossible.
 
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A july launch date seems impossible.

Why? QR launched DOH-SEA/SFO in a matter of weeks after those routes were announced.
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If it's cruise driven, this makes no sense given how the cruise lines refuse to sail from Florida because of problems on the end of the state's government. That means that adding MIA has to be cargo driven, possibly via a fifth freedom such as BCN (which would indicate Inditex cargo).

https://worldairlinenews.com/2021/05/24 ... -to-miami/

The article says "nonstop" DXB-MIA. It doesn't seem like fifth freedom segments will be involved here.
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https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/e ... -to-miami/

Effective 22 Jul'21, 4 times per week on 77W.
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ojas wrote:
https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-to-launch-a-new-service-to-miami/

Effective 22 Jul'21, 4 times per week on 77W.


With the FLL EK213/214 flight numbers no less!
 
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Re: Emirates adds MIA from July 21st, 2021

Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:53 am

Great to see it official.

Perhaps not a coincidence, but Qatar immediately has increased MIADOH to 3w this week and will go to 5w in July (original plan was 2w through June, then 3w July through end of a October).

Miami’s recovery post COVID has been unreal. It lost very few non-stop connections, gained a significant number of new domestic routes (especially smaller cities on AA), gained fairly good sized operations from JetBlue and Southwest, on top of a major expansion by Frontier, and now finally Emirates moves down from FLL. Miami finished May 2021 at over 90% of May 2019 traffic levels and will likely exceed 2019 monthly traffic levels within the next two months. And that’s with many travel restrictions to key long haul travel markets like Brazil, Argentina and Europe, still in place.
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perfect, will hopefully book the inaugural
 
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Great to see it official.

Perhaps not a coincidence, but Qatar immediately has increased MIADOH to 3w this week and will go to 5w in July (original plan was 2w through June, then 3w July through end of a October).

Miami’s recovery post COVID has been unreal. It lost very few non-stop connections, gained a significant number of new domestic routes (especially smaller cities on AA), gained fairly good sized operations from JetBlue and Southwest, on top of a major expansion by Frontier, and now finally Emirates moves down from FLL. Miami finished May 2021 at over 90% of May 2019 traffic levels and will likely exceed 2019 monthly traffic levels within the next two months. And that’s with many travel restrictions to key long haul travel markets like Brazil, Argentina and Europe, still in place.


No really all that shocking. People simply did not want to fly to Central America, or the Caribbean as they normally would the past 14-15 months. South Florida is about as good as it gets in the lower 48 for Americans wanting a tropical vacation, even if Miami is not really "tropical". Key West fits the bill better, but is a lot smaller, and requires a more expensive flight, or a decent drive from Miami. Throw in dirt cheap fares, like what AA was running on LAX-MIA for example, and it's no wonder the region has done pretty well.
 
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Re: Emirates adds MIA from July 21st, 2021

Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:09 pm

So the million dollar question is when Emirates arrives at MIA on July 22 will they do a one-time substitution of the A380 for the 77W as they did for the first flight to Orlando a few years back ? No doubt there are unused A380 gates at MIA available so that if this were done they wouldn't be "Delta'd" as was done to QR at Atlanta when they brought their A380 in on inaugural day at a few years back.

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