Turkish Aviation June 2021

Delta28L · Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:19 am

TK773ER wrote:
Does anyone know why TK operated a 77W into Columbus direct from Istanbul https://www.flightradar24.com/THY6011/280ccc3d

Cargo runs. A logistics provider is handling the flights

TK787 · Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:26 am

TK773ER wrote:
Does anyone know why TK operated a 77W into Columbus direct from Istanbul https://www.flightradar24.com/THY6011/280ccc3d

I've seen that in the past, I imagine Cargo ops.

ARNbased · Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:03 am

Glad to hear everyone is safe!

In a total unrelated (and obviously less important) matter, does anyone know if the Versace amenity kits are still distributed in long-haul TATL business? I thought so, but then I saw that TK has posted both on Youtube and Twitter that "long-haul business class passengers" get what I understood to be a regional kit featuring artwork by Devrim Erbil (https://thedesignair.net/2021/05/28/tur ... h-culture/). Has anyone actually gotten the Erbill sets btw?

TKflyer · Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:18 pm

TURKISH AIRLINES (TK/THY)
TC–LTF Airbus A321-271NX msn 10346, f1 today (16/06/2021) test Reg. D–AYAN

LAXintl · Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:56 pm

The Columbus Rickenbacker International Airport (LCK) flights are scheduled charters carrying garments from Sri Lanka and have been running since early May using A333 and 77W.

TK787 · Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:03 am

ARNbased wrote:
does anyone know if the Versace amenity kits are still distributed in long-haul TATL business?

Yes, that is what I got couple weeks ago.

ARNbased · Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:33 am

TK787 wrote:
ARNbased wrote:
does anyone know if the Versace amenity kits are still distributed in long-haul TATL business?

Yes, that is what I got couple weeks ago.

Thanks! I'll report back on Thursday next week (pending a neg. covid test)

Also, thanks for the tips about walks around Conrad Istanbul. I can't recommend this place enough (for the price you pay)

ARNbased · Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:51 pm

Does anyone know if Istanbul Airport offers rapid antigen tests (not PCR) landside without checking in and going through security? I’ve googled but I couldn’t understand if they offer antigen landside.

If not, does anyone know a place to get an antigen test in Istanbul? I’ve searched and searched but can only find PCR tests.

ozzietukker · Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:03 pm

ARNbased wrote:
Does anyone know if Istanbul Airport offers rapid antigen tests (not PCR) landside without checking in and going through security? I’ve googled but I couldn’t understand if they offer antigen landside.

If not, does anyone know a place to get an antigen test in Istanbul? I’ve searched and searched but can only find PCR tests.

They actually do 'landside' but the problem is getting in if you not have a flight the same day. Thing is, the price for antigen is the same as for PCR, and the PCR test is actually quite fast processed making the antigen test actually for not much use, okay you can get the result in 15 minutes, but the PCR test is within 2 hours.

https://www.istairport.com/en/announcem ... rvice-24-7

Otherwise, just ask your hotel, I always let them come to my room for the PCR test, the result takes a bit longer then at Istanbul Airport as they will visit many clients in hotels before delivering the samples to the place where they actually test them. Anti-gen test can only be done in hospitals I assume as there must be someone making the report.
All the test taken in various hotels where legit, as they do show up in E-nabiz, so the tests are processed by a licensed lab.

TK787 · Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:22 pm

Couple of things:
-Finally 15th TK 787 on its way to IST
-Herpa is releasing 1:500 scale TK 350-900.

ARNbased · Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:58 am

ozzietukker wrote:
ARNbased wrote:
Does anyone know if Istanbul Airport offers rapid antigen tests (not PCR) landside without checking in and going through security? I’ve googled but I couldn’t understand if they offer antigen landside.

If not, does anyone know a place to get an antigen test in Istanbul? I’ve searched and searched but can only find PCR tests.

They actually do 'landside' but the problem is getting in if you not have a flight the same day. Thing is, the price for antigen is the same as for PCR, and the PCR test is actually quite fast processed making the antigen test actually for not much use, okay you can get the result in 15 minutes, but the PCR test is within 2 hours.

https://www.istairport.com/en/announcem ... rvice-24-7

Otherwise, just ask your hotel, I always let them come to my room for the PCR test, the result takes a bit longer then at Istanbul Airport as they will visit many clients in hotels before delivering the samples to the place where they actually test them. Anti-gen test can only be done in hospitals I assume as there must be someone making the report.
All the test taken in various hotels where legit, as they do show up in E-nabiz, so the tests are processed by a licensed lab.

Awesome, thanks. I checked with Conrad and they were able to provide an antigen test but it would take 3 hours to get the results and cost more than the PCR test, so I might as well stick with the PCR test.

ankaraflyjet · Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:19 pm

I reported a few days ago here that Pegasus is introducing 4 times weekly Ankara Dubai flights from July 2, 2021. Today FlyDubai also reported that they will launch direct services between Ankara and Dubai starting with 2 times weekly from July 29, 2021 and increasing to 4 times weekly from 30 September 2021. TK and AnadoluJet is out of the picture and it's a pity that they missed this opportunity for so many years as Dubai was the largest unserved market from Ankara in the Middle East. Anyways great to see two airlines operating on this sector finally.

A330Inter · Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:46 pm

ankaraflyjet wrote:
I reported a few days ago here that Pegasus is introducing 4 times weekly Ankara Dubai flights from July 2, 2021. Today FlyDubai also reported that they will launch direct services between Ankara and Dubai starting with 2 times weekly from July 29, 2021 and increasing to 4 times weekly from 30 September 2021. TK and AnadoluJet is out of the picture and it's a pity that they missed this opportunity for so many years as Dubai was the largest unserved market from Ankara in the Middle East. Anyways great to see two airlines operating on this sector finally.

Quite an increase in flights and capacity between UAE and Turkey this summer, Air Arabia launching AUH-Trabzon too will be a good addition!
Have there been a change in the bilaterals recently between the two countries?

LAXintl · Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:04 pm

ACT Airlines resumed service with its 2020 tail strike damaged B747-400F TC-MCT. It is again operating for Saudia

ankaraflyjet · Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:30 pm

Yes I asked the same question in my previous message about the bilateral Air Service Agreement between UAE and Turkey. The two countries are at odds for a while at political level so I was not expecitng a favourable amendment for either party but if it was achieved great news indeed. I hope we can get some information on that from those members who has information about it.

A330Inter wrote:
ankaraflyjet wrote:
I reported a few days ago here that Pegasus is introducing 4 times weekly Ankara Dubai flights from July 2, 2021. Today FlyDubai also reported that they will launch direct services between Ankara and Dubai starting with 2 times weekly from July 29, 2021 and increasing to 4 times weekly from 30 September 2021. TK and AnadoluJet is out of the picture and it's a pity that they missed this opportunity for so many years as Dubai was the largest unserved market from Ankara in the Middle East. Anyways great to see two airlines operating on this sector finally.

Quite an increase in flights and capacity between UAE and Turkey this summer, Air Arabia launching AUH-Trabzon too will be a good addition!
Have there been a change in the bilaterals recently between the two countries?

YYJTurkman · Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:40 pm

I thought Air Canada stopped flying to Istanbul many years ago,

https://www.flightradar24.com/ACA7239/28206773

Delta28L · Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:49 pm

YYJTurkman wrote:
I thought Air Canada stopped flying to Istanbul many years ago,

https://www.flightradar24.com/ACA7239/28206773

Cargo run

LAXintl · Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:10 am

With lower COVID case counts Russia lifting restrictions on Turkey flights effective June 22. Should help open the flood gates for Russian tourist arrivals.

TKflyer · Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:47 am

According to Fr24 and planespotters.net, TC–JZV was delivered

TC-JZV Boeing 737-8AS wl msn/ln 40319/4220 dd 06/2021, lsd Avolon (btw nr. 55 in AJA‘s Fleet)

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/tc-jzv

TKflyer · Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:23 pm

TC–JGB Boeing 737–8F2 wl cn/ln 29786/566 „Foça“ has left the fleet, it brings the Fleet size down to 54 B738 (again) at AnadoluJet.
It was ferried to Guangzhou (CAN) on 18/06/2021 and it’s expected for conversion to SF, same as like TC–JGD (stored at Jinan (TNA) sinne 05/03/2021).
Maybe both for TURKISH CARGO?

TK787 · Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:36 am

Question if this sounds correct:
- I will arrive at IST from DLM in the afternoon, get a PCR test near arrivals??, then stay overnight at Yotel Land-side, in the morning fly to JFK.
Am I missing something? This is all possible, right?

ushuaia · Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:47 am

23.06.2021 - New Route Announcement

The Incorporation decided to start operating scheduled flights, based on market conditions, to DFW and DEN in the US.

Source:
https://investor.turkishairlines.com/en ... nouncement

Planes4you · Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:03 pm

The crazy part is Turkish was supposed to announce both DFW and DEN in 2018

ARNbased · Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:39 pm

Fingers crossed! TK to DFW and DEN would be amazing (for me)!

Delta28L · Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:25 pm

They keep passing up DTW for a route when there’s a big ME population in Michigan that could fill a flight a couple times weekly.

debonair · Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:49 pm

Hi, summer season just started and I spotted all the Turkish Charter airlines coming back, like Freebird, Corendon - except OnurAir and Tailwind so far... What's their current status in operational fleet?!

TK773ER · Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:05 am

TK's next 737 MAX 9 TC-LYB on its way to Istanbul https://www.flightradar24.com/THY6834/282a32e4

LAXintl · Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:58 pm

Seems Onur Air faces legal action from Fraport TAV over outstanding airport debts. A lien has been placed on eight aircraft.

https://www.raillynews.com/2021/06/All- ... -stopped./

TKflyer · Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:37 am

TC-JZN Boeing 737-8JP wl cn/ln 39026/4676 has been transferred to AnadoluJet.
AJA's Fleetsize is back up to 55 B738

AirbusA343 · Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:02 am

TC-JRY, a TK A321, has been painted in the Star Alliance livery.

Also, TK629 to Accra, operated by TC-JYH seems to have been in a holding pattern near Istanbul for almost four hours now, I wonder what the situation is.

Golf7GTI · Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:03 am

Any information about TC-JYH?

Circling at ISL for 3 hours now.

TK787 · Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:53 am

ushuaia wrote:
23.06.2021 - New Route Announcement

The Incorporation decided to start operating scheduled flights, based on market conditions, to DFW and DEN in the US.

Source:
https://investor.turkishairlines.com/en ... nouncement

I would say this was a bit unexpected for me.
We were talking about this earlier this year and IIRC, Detroit, Seattle even Orlando seemed on the top of the list.
(Not a whole lot of airports left..... Phoenix, Las Vegas, Charlotte and I can not think of any other US airports nonstop from IST)
15th 787-9 got delivered and two more within weeks/months and DEN/DFW will be 787 routes.
I could see them start as soon as late summer.

TK787 · Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:39 pm

A "Spotting Area" is now open at IST:
https://www.airporthaber.com/havacilik- ... girdi.html

leftcoast8 · Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:41 pm

Anyone think YVR could be upgauged to a 77W and/or daily service after the pandemic subsides? Especially with India and China on bad terms and the crisis in Hong Kong, I don't think Cathay or mainland Chinese carriers will be connecting to India as much as they used to, maybe TK could compete on YVR-DEL fares. Plus Turkish flies to TLV, DXB, ATH, and countless destinations in Eastern Europe, subsaharan Africa and in the Indian Ocean (SEZ, MRU, MLE), all areas that lacked 1-stop service from YVR due to the lack of Emirates service here.

Is TK also seriously considering other routes in western North America? (SEA, PDX, SAN, YYC)

ricq · Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:50 pm

TK787 wrote:
A "Spotting Area" is now open at IST:
https://www.airporthaber.com/havacilik- ... girdi.html

Nice, but rather limited?

"The spotter area will be open only on Saturdays between 08:00 and 17:30"

Must apply for entry: "Persons who upload their Turkish Identity or Passport front face photos and fill in the HES code in the spotter form will be able to submit their passport photos and submit their applications."

"Applications will be evaluated on a weekly basis"

Still . . . something is better than nothing.

TKflyer · Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:40 pm

TURKISH AIRLINES is getting it's 12th Boeing 737 MAX 8 cn/ln 60057/7453 TC-LCO
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/tc-lco

TKflyer · Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:03 pm

Some changes at the Corendon Airlines Group

Corendon Dutch Airlines (CD/CDN)
PH-CDK Boeing 737MAX 9 cn/ln 43393/7503 lsd. ALC, was ntu (now for N979AK Alaska Airlines)

Corendon Airlines (XC/CAI)
TC-TJV Boeing 737-86J wl cn/ln 37740/2638 lsd. DAE Capital ex LZ-DAD, dd 25/06/2021
TC-COH Boeing 737-8EH wl cn/ln 35850/4124 lsd. Avolon, transerfered to Corendon Airlines Europe 9H-TJE

Corendon Airlines Europe (XR/CXI)
9H-TJE Boeing 737-8EH wl cn/ln 35850/4124 lsd. Avolon ex TC-COH Corendon Airlines

A333MSPtoAMS · Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:31 pm

TK787 wrote:
ushuaia wrote:
23.06.2021 - New Route Announcement

The Incorporation decided to start operating scheduled flights, based on market conditions, to DFW and DEN in the US.

Source:
https://investor.turkishairlines.com/en ... nouncement

I would say this was a bit unexpected for me.
We were talking about this earlier this year and IIRC, Detroit, Seattle even Orlando seemed on the top of the list.
(Not a whole lot of airports left..... Phoenix, Las Vegas, Charlotte and I can not think of any other US airports nonstop from IST)
15th 787-9 got delivered and two more within weeks/months and DEN/DFW will be 787 routes.
I could see them start as soon as late summer.

At this rate they should also start MSP.

ARNbased · Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:50 am

Quick update from TK5 IST-ORD yesterday, June 25th:

- Check-in and security at IST took 5 minutes, no issues at all despite having an EU passport and so forth
- Annoying that TK keeps the business class lounge closed - M&S lounge was probably at 90% capacity
- Total chaos at boarding, TK changed status to "BOARDING" approx one hour before boarding began, which created a lot (A LOT) of crowding at the gate for a long time
- Flight probably 70% full in business, no idea about Y load factor
- Most passengers kept their masks on, although some didn't and staff didn't care
- Overall a very nice flight, despite it being scheduled with an older 777 without the "new"-ish business class seats
- Tasty meals, but as usual the same options as the last 5-6 years

- No table cloths, no PDB etc. so one wonders why they've reinstated the flying chefs, but I suppose it's a nice touch
- Versace kits, full bedding, Denon, etc.
- Good crew
- Took 5 minuts to deplane and go through immigration at ORD, probably thanks to current entry restrictions

AC4500 · Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:33 pm

leftcoast8 wrote:
Is TK also seriously considering other routes in western North America? (SEA, PDX, SAN, YYC)

Maybe SEA...? As for the other three, no way.

Although, if TK launched SEA, they would need to become a partner with AS for connecting feed, as the O&D traffic from Seattle alone is certainly not enough to fill a 777.

TKflyer · Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:17 pm

TKflyer wrote:
Some changes at the Corendon Airlines Group

Corendon Dutch Airlines (CD/CDN)
PH-CDK Boeing 737MAX 9 cn/ln 43393/7503 lsd. ALC, was ntu (now for N979AK Alaska Airlines)

Corendon Airlines (XC/CAI)
TC-TJV Boeing 737-86J wl cn/ln 37740/2638 lsd. DAE Capital ex LZ-DAD, dd 25/06/2021
TC-COH Boeing 737-8EH wl cn/ln 35850/4124 lsd. Avolon, transerfered to Corendon Airlines Europe 9H-TJE

Corendon Airlines Europe (XR/CXI)
9H-TJE Boeing 737-8EH wl cn/ln 35850/4124 lsd. Avolon ex TC-COH Corendon Airlines

Correction
According to skyliner-aviation.de TC-COH is ferried back to AYT, still in the fleet?

9H-TJE Boeing 737-85R WL cn/ln 35106/2530 ex N1786B, VT-JBE JetAirways, VT-SYE SpiceJet, EI-GSN Aircastle, 9H-TJE Corendon Airlines Europe

FLYKTPA · Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:45 pm

AC4500 wrote:
leftcoast8 wrote:
Is TK also seriously considering other routes in western North America? (SEA, PDX, SAN, YYC)

Maybe SEA...? As for the other three, no way.

Although, if TK launched SEA, they would need to become a partner with AS for connecting feed, as the O&D traffic from Seattle alone is certainly not enough to fill a 777.

Good thing Turkish’s operation isn’t about O&D! They could easily fill a flight solely with their massive IST hub.

emre787 · Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:24 pm

FLYKTPA wrote:
AC4500 wrote:
leftcoast8 wrote:
Is TK also seriously considering other routes in western North America? (SEA, PDX, SAN, YYC)

Maybe SEA...? As for the other three, no way.

Although, if TK launched SEA, they would need to become a partner with AS for connecting feed, as the O&D traffic from Seattle alone is certainly not enough to fill a 777.

Good thing Turkish’s operation isn’t about O&D! They could easily fill a flight solely with their massive IST hub.

Yeah, and they would fly their more suited 787-9s anyways and not the 77Ws

ankaraflyjet · Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:03 pm

Don't expect any immediate additional capacity increase at YVR, YYZ and YUL not because TK doesn't want but the existing bilateral has restrictions. We lobbied as Canadian Turkish Business Council for YVR launch since 2013 and could achieve 3 slots there and it has been very difficult. Yes TK could increase capacity by changing a/c type to 777 that option is there and I am sure TK will do that once Canada air traffic loads return to normal. YYZ and YUL have always had very high loads and YVR will be the same, also for cargo it is a great revenue maker for THY. I guess the next step we will see should be YYZ to go daily, AC to reinstate IST and then we can look at favorable additons to YUL and YVR and see if Calgary will be added in the next decade. AC's return to Turkey is very important so codeshare can be reintroduced on TK's flights and will make things easier to push at the Canadian end. I hope the informaiton was helpful.

leftcoast8 wrote:
Anyone think YVR could be upgauged to a 77W and/or daily service after the pandemic subsides? Especially with India and China on bad terms and the crisis in Hong Kong, I don't think Cathay or mainland Chinese carriers will be connecting to India as much as they used to, maybe TK could compete on YVR-DEL fares. Plus Turkish flies to TLV, DXB, ATH, and countless destinations in Eastern Europe, subsaharan Africa and in the Indian Ocean (SEZ, MRU, MLE), all areas that lacked 1-stop service from YVR due to the lack of Emirates service here.

Is TK also seriously considering other routes in western North America? (SEA, PDX, SAN, YYC)

TKflyer · Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:53 pm

double delivery for TURKISH AIRLINES

TC-LCN Boeing 737 MAX 8 cn/ln 60056/7446 (nr. 13) dd 20/06/2021
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/tc-lcn

TC-LCP Boeing 737 MAX 8 cn/ln 60058/7475 (nr. 14) dd 29/06/2021
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/tc-lcp

TC-LTF Airbus A321-271NX cn 10346 is also ready for delivery, still in XFW. It's expected tomorrow

TKflyer · Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:19 pm

TKflyer wrote:
double delivery for TURKISH AIRLINES

TC-LCN Boeing 737 MAX 8 cn/ln 60056/7446 (nr. 13) dd 20/06/2021
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/tc-lcn

TC-LCP Boeing 737 MAX 8 cn/ln 60058/7475 (nr. 14) dd 29/06/2021
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/tc-lcp

TC-LTF Airbus A321-271NX cn 10346 is also ready for delivery, still in XFW. It's expected tomorrow

TC–LTF is on the delivery flight, btw nr. 30
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/tc-ltf

mafaky · Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:41 pm

I have this idea since long, which has never materialised even before the Covid-19 pandemic days.

It's a well known fact that there's a well-addicted Jewish community in Israel for gambling and there's a big gambling center (with huge casinos...) in Macau. If well negotiated with the Chinese authorities, Turkey (and TK) should be able to grant say something like x3 weekly frequency for this destination. Gambling means big profit for the casinos and therefore for the country. It may be very feasible for TK to open a TLV - GZT (=Gaziantep in southeastern Anatolia...) - Macau route say with 333s. GZT will be used for a technical stop-over (for re-fuelling and catering replenishment, say with only a one hour stop-over).

Anybody with any ideas or with any objections? :airplane:

GZT will have a brand new domestic/international terminal with 6 PBBs, possibly by the end of this year, if not early 2022 and a rwy totally suitable for 333/789/359 ops. In fact one PBB on the terminal will be compatible with Cat. E wide bodies that can be used for international ER flights.

LAXintl · Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:43 pm

Please see the July thread >>> viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1462307

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