Okay here are the fuselage lengths.
“The 777-8F, if developed, faces its own challenges.
The freighter is slightly longer than the 777-8 but shorter than the -9. The fuselage lengths are:
777-300ER: 239.75 ft
777-8P: 224 ft
777-8F: 227.5 ft
777-9: 246.75 ft
Boeing is pondering a cargo version of the 777-9, according to market sources.
On its face, having three fuselage lengths on the 777X assembly line seems unnecessary. Why not simply build a freighter version of the 777-8P?
The choice came down to favoring payload or range, said a former Boeing salesman who was assigned to the X program. A freighter based on the -8P maximized payload. A slight stretch maximized range.
In an era of e-commerce, a freighter tends to max out by volume before weight, favoring range.”
To me it indicates a fairly detailed model must exist for all these variants.
Airbus will also end up with 3 lengths if they go forward with A350F, -900 pax, -950 freight, -1000 pax.
They also at one point sold -800s too, so it seems length is not that big a problem.
Leeham today published:
The news report said Boeing was showing the 777-8F concept around. This isn’t new, either. Despite putting development of the 777-8 and -8F on hold as cash flow cratered during the MAX and COVID crises, salesmen continued to chat with the market about the 777-8F. Boeing better be doing so.
We reported way back on April 6 that Boeing’s dominance in freighters, dating to the 707 in the 1960s, is under real threat for the first time. Airbus produced an OK freighter in the A300-600RF and a mediocre Combi in the A310. It foul-tipped on the A330F, although the A330-based KC-330 MRTT is a winner. Airbus completely dropped the ball on an A380F. Airbus also is showing a concept of the A350F and industry reaction is this time, Airbus could actually get it right. It’s a real threat to Boeing.
Furthermore, the Boeing 767-300ERF and 777-200LRF don’t meet ICAO’s 2027 CO2 standards. These airplanes can’t be produced from 2028. With the production of the 747-8F ending next year, Boeing must bring the 777-8F to market.
Ref: https://leehamnews.com/2021/06/07/ponti ... nd-aerion/
It's just his opinion, but still, it suggests we will see a 777-8F.
As for the competition, your link said:
Airbus has time to launch the program for a 2027 EIS. But officials also want to be sure they build into the schedule plenty of margin. So, the prospect of a launch “is pretty good.” It could come this year, but one insider says Airbus isn’t in a particular rush to do so.
Maybe AAB's negotiating through the media is accelerating their time line, who knows...
As usual, Leeham's lack of a professional editor shows, his articles ramble on with so much redundant content.