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AR returns to JFK

Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:45 am

After a 16-month hiatus and shortly after AA does the same, Aerolíneas Argentinas is returning to JFK, effective July 19th, initially 3x week.

AR1300 EZE 22:30 JFK 08:35+1 146 332
AR1301 JFK 14:45 EZE 02:40+1 257 332

Terrible timing on the return leg. Not sure if it´s a slots issue at JFK or what...
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:50 am

The timing is so that they can fly the flight with one aircraft without it having to spend a ton of time on the ground in NY. Although I don't know why they're not doing like a 1130 departure with a 2325 arrival into EZE. That seems like better timing that still leaves plenty of time for the turn
 
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:19 am

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The timing is so that they can fly the flight with one aircraft without it having to spend a ton of time on the ground in NY. Although I don't know why they're not doing like a 1130 departure with a 2325 arrival into EZE. That seems like better timing that still leaves plenty of time for the turn


Given that there is plenty of slack with the AR A332 fleet right now; not sure if what you state is the reason. At least 2 have not flown for a long while now (LV-FNJ and LV-GKO), the rest is flying to Miami 9x w, Madrid 2-3x w, cargo runs within Argentina (to USH) and then the nonstop vaccine runs to SVO.

Be it as it may, terrible arrival time into EZE.
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:49 am

If they were to use 2 aircraft each one would be flying less than 40 hours per week. Low utilization is expensive even if you have the slack in your fleet to do it.
 
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:04 am

AR continues to have a terrible and not very competitive schedule on the JFK-EZE leg. Glad to see them back though.
 
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:13 am

I have to wonder why the return flight isn't pushed back by 2 hours. If it's only being flown 3 times weekly, make it actually connect to flights at EZE.
 
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:46 am

dcajet wrote:
After a 16-month hiatus and shortly after AA does the same, Aerolíneas Argentinas is returning to JFK, effective July 19th, initially 3x week.

AR1300 EZE 22:30 JFK 08:35+1 146 332
AR1301 JFK 14:45 EZE 02:40+1 257 332

Terrible timing on the return leg. Not sure if it´s a slots issue at JFK or what...


they must have lost the slot. Typically it would leave around 17:00 (and the flight going there too).
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:18 pm

lesfalls wrote:
dcajet wrote:
After a 16-month hiatus and shortly after AA does the same, Aerolíneas Argentinas is returning to JFK, effective July 19th, initially 3x week.

AR1300 EZE 22:30 JFK 08:35+1 146 332
AR1301 JFK 14:45 EZE 02:40+1 257 332

Terrible timing on the return leg. Not sure if it´s a slots issue at JFK or what...


they must have lost the slot. Typically it would leave around 17:00 (and the flight going there too).


Are slots even an issue right now? JFK is still only around 70% or so of its normal flight total. Not sure how high that will be in July.
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:47 pm

lesfalls wrote:
dcajet wrote:
After a 16-month hiatus and shortly after AA does the same, Aerolíneas Argentinas is returning to JFK, effective July 19th, initially 3x week.

AR1300 EZE 22:30 JFK 08:35+1 146 332
AR1301 JFK 14:45 EZE 02:40+1 257 332

Terrible timing on the return leg. Not sure if it´s a slots issue at JFK or what...


they must have lost the slot. Typically it would leave around 17:00 (and the flight going there too).


I heard gates are limited at T7, since LO and UA are now there.
 
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:48 pm

asuflyer wrote:
lesfalls wrote:
dcajet wrote:
After a 16-month hiatus and shortly after AA does the same, Aerolíneas Argentinas is returning to JFK, effective July 19th, initially 3x week.

AR1300 EZE 22:30 JFK 08:35+1 146 332
AR1301 JFK 14:45 EZE 02:40+1 257 332

Terrible timing on the return leg. Not sure if it´s a slots issue at JFK or what...


they must have lost the slot. Typically it would leave around 17:00 (and the flight going there too).


I heard gates are limited at T7, since LO and UA are now there.


Do AR still codeshare with DL? Perhaps DL could find space for them in T4.
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:38 pm

lesfalls wrote:
dcajet wrote:
After a 16-month hiatus and shortly after AA does the same, Aerolíneas Argentinas is returning to JFK, effective July 19th, initially 3x week.

AR1300 EZE 22:30 JFK 08:35+1 146 332
AR1301 JFK 14:45 EZE 02:40+1 257 332

Terrible timing on the return leg. Not sure if it´s a slots issue at JFK or what...


they must have lost the slot. Typically it would leave around 17:00 (and the flight going there too).


Could they have done it on purpose, so to save on daytime aircraft parking time?
 
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:09 pm

One advantage to the schedule is that passengers inbound to JFK from other places in the US will be able to connect to the flight after arriving in the morning without much delay. Upon arrival in EZE, they will be able to check in directly at their hotel instead of having to wait for hours as usual. However, those originating in Argentina will not be so lucky, and that will likely be the bulk of the passengers.
 
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:51 pm

As many others stated, the timing is horrible. AA gets the bulk of high yield traffic on this route; is it really worth it for AR to fly this now? Much of the low yield traffic might prefer flying via PTY/BOG if the D/A times work out better. I was thinking if AR came back to JFK it would be a seasonal flight in the high season (Nov-Mar). Any chance they can get better times then as the seasonal Euro traffic from JFK is down?

I think flying an additional flight to MIA or even flying to LAX (with DL feed) could be a better idea. EZE is one of the big missing links on LAX-SA. I'm also curious if DL flying its own metal JFK-EZE seasonally could work.
 
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:05 pm

Showing Sept 1 start in OAG with 6x weekly?
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:10 pm

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Showing Sept 1 start in OAG with 6x weekly?

Actually seems to be only until Jul 31. In August only US route is MIA. No plans to bring back MCO atm.
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Could very well be some special flights?
 
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:07 pm

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As many others stated, the timing is horrible. AA gets the bulk of high yield traffic on this route; is it really worth it for AR to fly this now? Much of the low yield traffic might prefer flying via PTY/BOG if the D/A times work out better. I was thinking if AR came back to JFK it would be a seasonal flight in the high season (Nov-Mar). Any chance they can get better times then as the seasonal Euro traffic from JFK is down?

I think flying an additional flight to MIA or even flying to LAX (with DL feed) could be a better idea. EZE is one of the big missing links on LAX-SA. I'm also curious if DL flying its own metal JFK-EZE seasonally could work.


IIRC, Delta flew JFK-EZA in 2008. Unfortunately for Delta, AA retaliated by increasing their presence on the route to 2 daily, flooding the route with capacity....

Re LAX: it will be a few years until we will see again flights between EZE and GRU to deep SA. The pandemic killed the AA nonstops to both cities.
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:11 pm

usdcaguy wrote:
Upon arrival in EZE, they will be able to check in directly at their hotel instead of having to wait for hours as usual.


Have another look at that EZE arrival time.
 
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:54 am

asuflyer wrote:
lesfalls wrote:
dcajet wrote:
After a 16-month hiatus and shortly after AA does the same, Aerolíneas Argentinas is returning to JFK, effective July 19th, initially 3x week.

AR1300 EZE 22:30 JFK 08:35+1 146 332
AR1301 JFK 14:45 EZE 02:40+1 257 332

Terrible timing on the return leg. Not sure if it´s a slots issue at JFK or what...


they must have lost the slot. Typically it would leave around 17:00 (and the flight going there too).


I heard gates are limited at T7, since LO and UA are now there.


LO has been at T7 long before the pandemic.
 
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:56 am

Irehdna wrote:
As many others stated, the timing is horrible. AA gets the bulk of high yield traffic on this route; is it really worth it for AR to fly this now? Much of the low yield traffic might prefer flying via PTY/BOG if the D/A times work out better. I was thinking if AR came back to JFK it would be a seasonal flight in the high season (Nov-Mar). Any chance they can get better times then as the seasonal Euro traffic from JFK is down?

I think flying an additional flight to MIA or even flying to LAX (with DL feed) could be a better idea. EZE is one of the big missing links on LAX-SA. I'm also curious if DL flying its own metal JFK-EZE seasonally could work.


DL flew JFK-EZE very briefly in 2008 on a 767-300ER. That was before AR was in SkyTeam but it performed poorly. EZE is a volatile market subject to Argentina's boom and bust cycles and typically a very tough market for anyone but AA, which has a crew and maintenance base there and makes it work with lower costs.
 
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:22 am

ContinentalEWR wrote:
asuflyer wrote:
lesfalls wrote:

they must have lost the slot. Typically it would leave around 17:00 (and the flight going there too).


I heard gates are limited at T7, since LO and UA are now there.


LO has been at T7 long before the pandemic.


And UA has a whopping 2 flights. Gate space and slots are not an issue
 
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jfklganyc wrote:
ContinentalEWR wrote:
asuflyer wrote:

I heard gates are limited at T7, since LO and UA are now there.


LO has been at T7 long before the pandemic.


And UA has a whopping 2 flights. Gate space and slots are not an issue


And BA is what, 2 x a day, at most? IB, one? T7 is not at full capacity.
 
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:34 am

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Re LAX: it will be a few years until we will see again flights between EZE and GRU to deep SA. The pandemic killed the AA nonstops to both cities.


I hope this route returns soon. Is EZE-JFK really this much bigger than EZE-LAX? I would think they both would be similar. LAX would have a good mix of VFR, business, and connecting Asia traffic. CA has more Argentinos than NY (and more than any state besides Florida if I’m not mistaken). JFK overflies MIA and (to a lesser extent) LAX overflies IAH/DFW but there should still be a good deal of traffic willing to pay for a nonstop to LAX. If AR gets favorable times (don’t know what slot situation is like there) it could work out well.
 
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:10 am

Irehdna wrote:
dcajet wrote:
Re LAX: it will be a few years until we will see again flights between EZE and GRU to deep SA. The pandemic killed the AA nonstops to both cities.


I hope this route returns soon. Is EZE-JFK really this much bigger than EZE-LAX? I would think they both would be similar. LAX would have a good mix of VFR, business, and connecting Asia traffic. CA has more Argentinos than NY (and more than any state besides Florida if I’m not mistaken). JFK overflies MIA and (to a lesser extent) LAX overflies IAH/DFW but there should still be a good deal of traffic willing to pay for a nonstop to LAX. If AR gets favorable times (don’t know what slot situation is like there) it could work out well.


Way bigger. JFK also has much higher yields than LAX, There is very little high yielding, corporate traffic from California to deep South America. What there is in abundance is VFR and lower yielding traffic. An EZE (or GRU) nonstop from LAX is a long 12 hour flight, expensive to operate, the operating aircraft must stay all day at EZE and lacks the premium traffic that JFK has. Will it come back? I am sure it will, but not for a few years´ time. In the meantime, DFW and IAH are the next best option for those of us who live in California.
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:26 am

dcajet wrote:
After a 16-month hiatus and shortly after AA does the same, Aerolíneas Argentinas is returning to JFK, effective July 19th, initially 3x week.

AR1300 EZE 22:30 JFK 08:35+1 146 332
AR1301 JFK 14:45 EZE 02:40+1 257 332

Terrible timing on the return leg. Not sure if it´s a slots issue at JFK or what...


Back in early 2018, the times were EZE-JFK depart 23:50 arrive 08:55 +1; JFK-EZE depart 15:25 arrive 0420 +1. So the new times are actually a bit better IMO.

I recall that EZE was a complete mad-house at 4:30 AM on a Sunday morning!
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:27 am

Irehdna wrote:
dcajet wrote:
Re LAX: it will be a few years until we will see again flights between EZE and GRU to deep SA. The pandemic killed the AA nonstops to both cities.


I hope this route returns soon. Is EZE-JFK really this much bigger than EZE-LAX? I would think they both would be similar. LAX would have a good mix of VFR, business, and connecting Asia traffic. CA has more Argentinos than NY (and more than any state besides Florida if I’m not mistaken). JFK overflies MIA and (to a lesser extent) LAX overflies IAH/DFW but there should still be a good deal of traffic willing to pay for a nonstop to LAX. If AR gets favorable times (don’t know what slot situation is like there) it could work out well.


You can't compare the two: JFK = less flying time and way higher yields. LAX you're basically just flying low yield VFR traffic... how long did the AR service last via LIM/MEX way back when?
 
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eta unknown wrote:
Irehdna wrote:
dcajet wrote:
Re LAX: it will be a few years until we will see again flights between EZE and GRU to deep SA. The pandemic killed the AA nonstops to both cities.


I hope this route returns soon. Is EZE-JFK really this much bigger than EZE-LAX? I would think they both would be similar. LAX would have a good mix of VFR, business, and connecting Asia traffic. CA has more Argentinos than NY (and more than any state besides Florida if I’m not mistaken). JFK overflies MIA and (to a lesser extent) LAX overflies IAH/DFW but there should still be a good deal of traffic willing to pay for a nonstop to LAX. If AR gets favorable times (don’t know what slot situation is like there) it could work out well.


You can't compare the two: JFK = less flying time and way higher yields. LAX you're basically just flying low yield VFR traffic... how long did the AR service last via LIM/MEX way back when?


The multi stop Pacific route lasted from 1969 to 1999, with 707, 747 and A310, Then the A340 was introduced nonstop from EZE; LAX was discontinued shortly thereafter in 2001.
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Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:08 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
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Upon arrival in EZE, they will be able to check in directly at their hotel instead of having to wait for hours as usual.


Have another look at that EZE arrival time.


You could possibly do a late check-in at 4a from the reservation from the previous day. I still see that as an advantage.
 
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After 16 months AR returned to JFK today with the arrival of AR1300 from EZE. A rather long-ish western route that took a bit longer than usual, 10hs 51mins. Left EZE over 2 hours late due to late arrival of the incoming plane (LV-GHQ) from Beijing.

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After 16 months AR returned to JFK today with the arrival of AR1300 from EZE. A rather long-ish western route that took a bit longer than usual, 10hs 51mins. Left EZE over 2 hours late due to late arrival of the incoming plane (LV-GHQ) from Beijing.

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Wow, LV-GHQ is working really hard, two hours after arrival in EZE from a long haul from MAD/PEK, it flew again to JFK. That's incredible!
 
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RoyalBrunei757 wrote:
dcajet wrote:
After 16 months AR returned to JFK today with the arrival of AR1300 from EZE. A rather long-ish western route that took a bit longer than usual, 10hs 51mins. Left EZE over 2 hours late due to late arrival of the incoming plane (LV-GHQ) from Beijing.

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Wow, LV-GHQ is working really hard, two hours after arrival in EZE from a long haul from MAD/PEK, it flew again to JFK. That's incredible!


Are you saying that because it’s not normal in these times…?
 
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ZK-NBT wrote:
RoyalBrunei757 wrote:
dcajet wrote:
After 16 months AR returned to JFK today with the arrival of AR1300 from EZE. A rather long-ish western route that took a bit longer than usual, 10hs 51mins. Left EZE over 2 hours late due to late arrival of the incoming plane (LV-GHQ) from Beijing.

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Wow, LV-GHQ is working really hard, two hours after arrival in EZE from a long haul from MAD/PEK, it flew again to JFK. That's incredible!


Are you saying that because it’s not normal in these times…?

What I meant was the machine is working very hard, nothing more. Incredible human creation, that's all.
 
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ZK-NBT wrote:
RoyalBrunei757 wrote:
dcajet wrote:
After 16 months AR returned to JFK today with the arrival of AR1300 from EZE. A rather long-ish western route that took a bit longer than usual, 10hs 51mins. Left EZE over 2 hours late due to late arrival of the incoming plane (LV-GHQ) from Beijing.

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Wow, LV-GHQ is working really hard, two hours after arrival in EZE from a long haul from MAD/PEK, it flew again to JFK. That's incredible!


Are you saying that because it’s not normal in these times…?


Great to see AR maximizing the use of its A330 fleet, which has been quite busy flying scheduled services to MIA, MAD, USH and now JFK, as well as many vaccine carrying flights to/from Memphis, Beijing and Moscow.

Two of its older PW powered A332 (LV-FNI/J) leases are up and are being returned to the lessor; and being replaced with two newer GE powered A332 (LV-KAN/O) both ex TAP machines,
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Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:12 am

dcajet wrote:
After a 16-month hiatus and shortly after AA does the same, Aerolíneas Argentinas is returning to JFK, effective July 19th, initially 3x week.

AR1300 EZE 22:30 JFK 08:35+1 146 332
AR1301 JFK 14:45 EZE 02:40+1 257 332

Terrible timing on the return leg. Not sure if it´s a slots issue at JFK or what...


Not ideal, but on the other hand immigration should be quiet at that time and taxis are cheap in Argentina.
 
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Irehdna wrote:
As many others stated, the timing is horrible. AA gets the bulk of high yield traffic on this route; is it really worth it for AR to fly this now? Much of the low yield traffic might prefer flying via PTY/BOG if the D/A times work out better. I was thinking if AR came back to JFK it would be a seasonal flight in the high season (Nov-Mar). Any chance they can get better times then as the seasonal Euro traffic from JFK is down?

I think flying an additional flight to MIA or even flying to LAX (with DL feed) could be a better idea. EZE is one of the big missing links on LAX-SA. I'm also curious if DL flying its own metal JFK-EZE seasonally could work.


DL flew JFK-EZE very briefly in 2008 on a 767-300ER. That was before AR was in SkyTeam but it performed poorly. EZE is a volatile market subject to Argentina's boom and bust cycles and typically a very tough market for anyone but AA, which has a crew and maintenance base there and makes it work with lower costs.


I remember being at EZE, with 5 AA 777s departing within 2 hours of each other, the place was a zoo. Quite incredible.
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Re: AR returns to JFK

Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:06 am

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After 16 months AR returned to JFK today with the arrival of AR1300 from EZE. A rather long-ish western route that took a bit longer than usual, 10hs 51mins. Left EZE over 2 hours late due to late arrival of the incoming plane (LV-GHQ) from Beijing.

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Great too see.. never flown AR but I've heard demand is booming right now in Argentina, like several other South American countries.. I'm sure load factors will be high..
 
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Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:55 am

AR had, till 2019, all intercontinental arrivals between 4 and 5 AM, so to allow passengers to continue in all the domestic departures (about 8 destinations, such as SLA, TUC, ROS, COR, MDZ, MDQ, NQN, USH) from EZE (and some regional departures such as SCL, ASU, MVD and PDP) between 7 and 9AM...
It was a very bad idea, as Ezeiza was understaffed at that time, and passport control sometimes took up to 3 hours.
Fortunatelly (or not), they were electronic gates for Argentines, but they were very difficult to use. Last time I flew there (LH, 7am arrival) there was a queue of over 3000 people. News reported (Dec. 29th 2019) that people waited over 5 hours to go through migration control. I was fast enough to get to a Electronic Gate and it worked that time.

Then they decided to return international operations to AEP, so this makes no more sense. Plus there are very few flights (domestic) left at EZE now. Well, all in all there are very few flights left.

At the moment, there is only one flight a week on that route, AR1300 departs EZE on Mondays and AR1301 leaves JFK on Tuesdays.
 
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ContinentalEWR wrote:
Irehdna wrote:
As many others stated, the timing is horrible. AA gets the bulk of high yield traffic on this route; is it really worth it for AR to fly this now? Much of the low yield traffic might prefer flying via PTY/BOG if the D/A times work out better. I was thinking if AR came back to JFK it would be a seasonal flight in the high season (Nov-Mar). Any chance they can get better times then as the seasonal Euro traffic from JFK is down?

I think flying an additional flight to MIA or even flying to LAX (with DL feed) could be a better idea. EZE is one of the big missing links on LAX-SA. I'm also curious if DL flying its own metal JFK-EZE seasonally could work.


DL flew JFK-EZE very briefly in 2008 on a 767-300ER. That was before AR was in SkyTeam but it performed poorly. EZE is a volatile market subject to Argentina's boom and bust cycles and typically a very tough market for anyone but AA, which has a crew and maintenance base there and makes it work with lower costs.


I remember being at EZE, with 5 AA 777s departing within 2 hours of each other, the place was a zoo. Quite incredible.


At its peak, AA was 3 x daily at EZE to MIA (high season), and 1 x daily to DFW and JFK. MIA was, at that time, 1 77W and 2 x 772. DFW shifted between 772 and 789. JFK a 772, though on my last JFK-EZE flight in January 2018, the route was briefly operated by a 77W.
 
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Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:44 pm

eielef wrote:
AR had, till 2019, all intercontinental arrivals between 4 and 5 AM, so to allow passengers to continue in all the domestic departures (about 8 destinations, such as SLA, TUC, ROS, COR, MDZ, MDQ, NQN, USH) from EZE (and some regional departures such as SCL, ASU, MVD and PDP) between 7 and 9AM...
It was a very bad idea, as Ezeiza was understaffed at that time, and passport control sometimes took up to 3 hours.
Fortunatelly (or not), they were electronic gates for Argentines, but they were very difficult to use. Last time I flew there (LH, 7am arrival) there was a queue of over 3000 people. News reported (Dec. 29th 2019) that people waited over 5 hours to go through migration control. I was fast enough to get to a Electronic Gate and it worked that time.

Then they decided to return international operations to AEP, so this makes no more sense. Plus there are very few flights (domestic) left at EZE now. Well, all in all there are very few flights left.

At the moment, there is only one flight a week on that route, AR1300 departs EZE on Mondays and AR1301 leaves JFK on Tuesdays.


I flew in there on UA in Nov 2019, arrival was about 1030-11am (Arond that time) and it still was the longest wait I've had in immigration in my travels. Couldnt imagine during the peak time

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