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BMcD
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Southwest COS announcement and performance

Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:48 pm

https://gazette.com/business/southwest- ... shXWqJMeYM

Southwest announced flights to Houston and San Antonio from COS for the holidays:

Houston flight daily on Nov. 23-24, 28-29; Dec 23, 26-30 and Jan 2-3;
San Antonio flight daily on Nov. 20, 23-24, 27-29; Dec. 18, 23, 26-30 and Jan. 1-3,

Some other highlights:
42,329 passengers boarded for outbound flights in March and April. COS is reporting that traffic surged during May (numbers are not available)
Southwest boarded 35% of all passengers leaving COS in April, 30.5% in March.

Looks like Southwest is flourishing in COS in their first quarter here.

Note: Didn't add to the Southwest route thread due to the station specific information.
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FriscoHeavy
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Re: Southwest COS announcement and performance

Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:19 pm

That's superb news. I'm glad to hear Southwest is doing well in COS and have added flights to HOU and SAT for the Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year's holidays.
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Wneast
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Re: Southwest COS announcement and performance

Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:22 pm

I hope they add OAK,STL,BNA,BWI,SAN,MCO,TPA
 
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Re: Southwest COS announcement and performance

Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:25 pm

Wneast wrote:
I hope they add OAK,STL,BNA,BWI,SAN,MCO,TPA

MCO and TPA are a stretch. Everything else seems feasible for at least a Saturday-only flight.
Next:
UA: PDX-ORD-BWI
WN: BWI-STL-PDX
 
Wneast
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Re: Southwest COS announcement and performance

Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:27 pm

AC4500 wrote:
Wneast wrote:
I hope they add OAK,STL,BNA,BWI,SAN,MCO,TPA

MCO and TPA are a stretch. Everything else seems feasible for at least a Saturday-only flight.

MCO probably would be full at least seasonal and TPA
 
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Re: Southwest COS announcement and performance

Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:18 pm

No shock WN would surge in COS. They have a huge FF base and save people that drive. With gas creeping higher and Denver airport parking harder again , COS is getting more attractive to more people.
 
jplatts
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Re: Southwest COS announcement and performance

Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:54 pm

Here are the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for WN out of COS in March 2021:
COS-DAL - 10196 passengers, 16319 seats, 62.48% load factor
COS-DEN - 10120 passengers, 19401 seats, 52.16% load factor
COS-LAS - 6839 passengers, 10757 seats, 63.58% load factor
COS-MDW - 4658 passengers, 10503 seats, 44.35% load factor
COS-PHX - 8535 passengers, 10678 seats, 79.93% load factor
 
BMcD
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Re: Southwest COS announcement and performance

Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:15 pm

jplatts wrote:
Here are the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for WN out of COS in March 2021:
COS-DAL - 10196 passengers, 16319 seats, 62.48% load factor
COS-DEN - 10120 passengers, 19401 seats, 52.16% load factor
COS-LAS - 6839 passengers, 10757 seats, 63.58% load factor
COS-MDW - 4658 passengers, 10503 seats, 44.35% load factor
COS-PHX - 8535 passengers, 10678 seats, 79.93% load factor


Thanks for the numbers. Guessing April would be a bit better than March. What is the target load factor that airlines try to go for?
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DenverTed
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Re: Southwest COS announcement and performance

Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:24 pm

With Denver being the largest O and D in the nation (maybe the world?), not too surprised WN is doing very well in COS. Next Colorado airport with untapped potential, Fort Collins.
 
jetskipper
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Re: Southwest COS announcement and performance

Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:32 pm

DenverTed wrote:
With Denver being the largest O and D in the nation (maybe the world?), not too surprised WN is doing very well in COS. Next Colorado airport with untapped potential, Fort Collins.


Denver isn’t the top O&D in the US, let alone the world. LAX and MCO were both higher in O&D traffic in 2020. When you go back to 2019, DEN was number 7 in the US.
 
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Re: Southwest COS announcement and performance

Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:39 pm

BMcD wrote:
Thanks for the numbers. Guessing April would be a bit better than March. What is the target load factor that airlines try to go for?


If you want to measure success with a single number, it's PRASM, not load factor (or yield).
 
BMcD
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Re: Southwest COS announcement and performance

Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:48 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
BMcD wrote:
Thanks for the numbers. Guessing April would be a bit better than March. What is the target load factor that airlines try to go for?


If you want to measure success with a single number, it's PRASM, not load factor (or yield).


Is it possible to know? How "successful" would Southwest consider COS?
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Re: Southwest COS announcement and performance

Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:49 pm

BMcD wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:
BMcD wrote:
Thanks for the numbers. Guessing April would be a bit better than March. What is the target load factor that airlines try to go for?


If you want to measure success with a single number, it's PRASM, not load factor (or yield).


Is it possible to know? How "successful" would Southwest consider COS?

Well they have said in articles they are seeing books exceeding expectation whatever that might mean for them
 
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Re: Southwest COS announcement and performance

Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:49 pm

Smart, Texas is the largest represented state at USAFA and Houston the most represented city so the holiday adds make sense to capture that traffic along with other O&D of course. SA is not far behind for cadets. More than enough to fill a flight or two. Smart move IMO
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Re: Southwest COS announcement and performance

Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:51 pm

Wneast wrote:
BMcD wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:

If you want to measure success with a single number, it's PRASM, not load factor (or yield).


Is it possible to know? How "successful" would Southwest consider COS?

Well they have said in articles they are seeing books exceeding expectation whatever that might mean for them


Yes, as their PR Department would say anything otherwise.
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Re: Southwest COS announcement and performance

Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:52 pm

What we see being added next I think we should see more by end of summer probably are just letting it mature some before we see even more adds
 
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Re: Southwest COS announcement and performance

Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:32 am

jetskipper wrote:
DenverTed wrote:
With Denver being the largest O and D in the nation (maybe the world?), not too surprised WN is doing very well in COS. Next Colorado airport with untapped potential, Fort Collins.


Denver isn’t the top O&D in the US, let alone the world. LAX and MCO were both higher in O&D traffic in 2020. When you go back to 2019, DEN was number 7 in the US.

This was from the Denver aviation thread, post 251
With the DOT O&D numbers out from 2020, it is interesting to see that DEN is now #1 for originating passengers, I did not realize that DEN was #2 in 2019, I thought DEN was lower than that, closer to 4 or 5. Here are the Top 10 US airports for 2020.

2020 Rank...2019 Rank...Airport...Pax count (millions)
...1…………….2………...DEN………..18.1
...2……………1…………LAX………...17.6
...3…………….3………..MCO………..17.5
...4…………….4………..LAS………...16.6
...5……………..6………..ATL………...15.1
...6……………10………..PHX………..13.7
...7…………….5………..ORD………..13.1
...8……………11……….DFW………..12.2
...9…………...14………..FLL………....11.5
...10…………..8………..SEA………….10.9
 
jplatts
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Re: Southwest COS announcement and performance

Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:03 am

Here were the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for WN flights out of COS in April 2021:
COS-DAL - 11380 passengers, 25518 seats, 44.60% load factor
COS-DEN - 15986 passengers, 33208 seats, 48.14% load factor
COS-LAS - 9096 passengers, 17160 seats, 53.01% load factor
COS-MDW - 6627 passengers, 17160 seats, 38.62% load factor
COS-PHX - 11673 passengers, 17192 seats, 67.90% load factor
 
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Re: Southwest COS announcement and performance

Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:26 am

jplatts wrote:
Here were the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for WN flights out of COS in April 2021:
COS-DAL - 11380 passengers, 25518 seats, 44.60% load factor
COS-DEN - 15986 passengers, 33208 seats, 48.14% load factor
COS-LAS - 9096 passengers, 17160 seats, 53.01% load factor
COS-MDW - 6627 passengers, 17160 seats, 38.62% load factor
COS-PHX - 11673 passengers, 17192 seats, 67.90% load factor

Service to COS didn’t start until 2nd week of March, so I expected numbers to be lower. May and June will be a better litmus test IMHO….
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