32andBelow wrote:

Maint base in Houston? That’s gonna be challenging

they could be referencing hobby? I don't know the situation at either airport

Cardude2 wrote:

also here's the route map they hope to have

just realized simple flying said ITM was the airport in Osaka *facepalm*. When they fly there it would defiantly have to be KIX

Wneast wrote:

Cardude2 wrote:

Wneast wrote:

They want to add GEG or BOI lol not happening one could wish though

where does it state that in the article?

It doesn’t oh sorry I meant I want them my bad but still unlikely

yeah I don't think either of those are on the table unless they get 737-700's

Cardude2 wrote:

Wneast wrote:

Cardude2 wrote:

where does it state that in the article?

It doesn’t oh sorry I meant I want them my bad but still unlikely

yeah I don't think either of those are on the table unless they get 737-700's

Is the 737-700 the only aircraft that can land/take-off from those airports?

XRadar98 wrote:

Cardude2 wrote:

Wneast wrote:

It doesn’t oh sorry I meant I want them my bad but still unlikely

yeah I don't think either of those are on the table unless they get 737-700's

Is the 737-700 the only aircraft that can land/take-off from those airports?

No 787s can land here I just think he means those are to big

Wneast wrote:

XRadar98 wrote:

Cardude2 wrote:

yeah I don't think either of those are on the table unless they get 737-700's

Is the 737-700 the only aircraft that can land/take-off from those airports?

No 787s can land here I just think he means those are to big

I skipped quite a few posts, maybe that’s my mistake and I missed something, but I thought they were talking about using 757’s

XRadar98 wrote:

Wneast wrote:

XRadar98 wrote:

Is the 737-700 the only aircraft that can land/take-off from those airports?

No 787s can land here I just think he means those are to big

I skipped quite a few posts, maybe that’s my mistake and I missed something, but I thought they were talking about using 757’s

No they are you asked if that couldn’t land at those airports ?

Wneast wrote:

XRadar98 wrote:

Wneast wrote:

No 787s can land here I just think he means those are to big

I skipped quite a few posts, maybe that’s my mistake and I missed something, but I thought they were talking about using 757’s

No they are you asked if that couldn’t land at those airports ?

No, I asked if the 737 was the only plane for those airports, quoting a post prior to me. Just going back to see that this airline intends to use 757’s, so some misguided posts are there.

This airline and its concept is very intriguing.

It would not surprise me if United did the maintenance on the 757s either Orlando or Houston.

Cardude2 wrote:

32andBelow wrote:

Maint base in Houston? That’s gonna be challenging

they could be referencing hobby? I don't know the situation at either airport

As a spoke. If you have 10 airplanes it can only get each airplane once every 10 days unless they run more than 1 flight out of there

I really wish them all the best. If they can pull it, it can really be an outstanding venture. I wonder if others will follow later. Canada also has some advantageous ports on the way to crossing the pacific and the atlantic; YYT comes to mind... I had the chance of visiting Newfoundland some time ago and found it absolutely gorgeous. I like the idea of new business models; I just would not put my money on them. I don´t have any, anyways.

https://simpleflying.com/why-northern-p ... oeing-757/

When simple flying can’t find enough stories for the day

Bit of an oldie but here's northern pacific news story about then recruiting staff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfQr39Y5Xzc

promotional vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFfAr7RCosE

and a video version of the article I previously posted (CEO on zoom interview): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hreWTJTRPKw

Their website is up and running:

https://np.com

Oh no, I can't tell if this is the 2021 or 2022 thread!!! LOL. Funny how EVERY thread seemingly needs a '22 edition.....
As for this company, hope it at least starts up operations to see how good or bad the concept is.

BigGSFO wrote:

Their website is up and running:

https://np.com

Their website has been up but that looks like a new URL

interesting development, Dj's Aviation is heading to the Northern Pacific Airways launch event on the 16th in LA. He will be interviewing CEO Rob McKinney and he is asking for possible questions to ask. If you have a youtube/Gmail account you can leave a comment here:
https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxN8a-JQ ... LjSeCRRdGh

it also looks like they might be showing off N627UP in all its glory

Cardude2 wrote:

also here's the route map they hope to have

All of the US cities but Orlando have direct service to Asia Hubs. Many of those options have multiple. I expected AUS, BNA, type destinations and not major US cities with plenty of better options.

Alaska Airlines could do this with A321's could they not?

strangeplanes wrote:

Cardude2 wrote:

also here's the route map they hope to have

All of the US cities but Orlando have direct service to Asia Hubs. Many of those options have multiple. I expected AUS, BNA, type destinations and not major US cities with plenty of better options.

Alaska Airlines could do this with A321's could they not?

not the Asian ones

strangeplanes wrote:

Cardude2 wrote:

also here's the route map they hope to have

All of the US cities but Orlando have direct service to Asia Hubs. Many of those options have multiple. I expected AUS, BNA, type destinations and not major US cities with plenty of better options.

also, their main objective is t be a west coast copy of Icelandair/WOW/PLAY so price

While I would definitely take a trip to Asia on them, this is going to be a hard row to hoe. I wish them luck.

32andBelow wrote:

BigGSFO wrote:

Their website is up and running:

https://np.com

Their website has been up but that looks like a new URL

yes it has been up for months now https://twitter.com/jetcitystar/status/ ... 96994?s=20

nothing new has been added since then

Why does one of the photos in their Navigators Fly Freely montage look like an old-school Windows screensaver?

This evening is their aircraft reveal in SBD. While invited I could not be bothered with the drive out there with Covid and all going on.

I am sure we will see some images posted later.

LAXintl wrote:

This evening is their aircraft reveal in SBD. While invited I could not be bothered with the drive out there with Covid and all going on.

I am sure we will see some images posted later.

thanks for the update, I know DJ's aviation went there as I saw from his Twitter, But I think he and everyone else are under embargo

Will they consider Alaska - Hawaii flights, or do the 757s not possess enough range? I know there are a fair number of Alaskans who visit Hawaii who need to stage through places like Seattle, so might nonstops to Honolulu or Kahalui, for example, fit in with their business model?

Aptivaboy wrote:

Will they consider Alaska - Hawaii flights, or do the 757s not possess enough range? I know there are a fair number of Alaskans who visit Hawaii who need to stage through places like Seattle, so might nonstops to Honolulu or Kahalui, for example, fit in with their business model?

I could personally see that and yes the 757 can easily make hawaii especially if they can make Asia

Surprising YVR isn't on the list. If things go well for them I imagine we'll see its added down the line.

Aptivaboy wrote:

Will they consider Alaska - Hawaii flights, or do the 757s not possess enough range? I know there are a fair number of Alaskans who visit Hawaii who need to stage through places like Seattle, so might nonstops to Honolulu or Kahalui, for example, fit in with their business model?

there already is a direct flight to Honolulu from anchorage on alaska. It would not be the best idea for them with a 752, but if they get a smaller aircraft it might work.

Interesting, I didn't see it the last time I looked. I was thinking of doing an Alaska - Maui vacay a few months back and the idea of doing the cold and the warm thing was appealing but I didn't see any direct flights. Thank you!

[twoid][/twoid]

Aptivaboy wrote:

Interesting, I didn't see it the last time I looked. I was thinking of doing an Alaska - Maui vacay a few months back and the idea of doing the cold and the warm thing was appealing but I didn't see any direct flights. Thank you!

AS flies ANC-HNL/OGG/KOA nonstop. ANC-HNL is year round, OGG/KOA are winter seasonal.

Aptivaboy wrote:

Will they consider Alaska - Hawaii flights, or do the 757s not possess enough range? I know there are a fair number of Alaskans who visit Hawaii who need to stage through places like Seattle, so might nonstops to Honolulu or Kahalui, for example, fit in with their business model?

Range wouldn't be an issue, but I don't think it suits their business model. Hawaii to East Asia is already so competitive and well-served so NorPac would be dumb to try to compete for that, and Alaska already flies direct ANC-HNL/KOA/OGG on 737s. That's 3 out of 4 (main) islands covered. My understanding is that NorPac also isn't looking to appeal to ANC-based passengers, but instead, they want to focus almost entirely on transit pax. I guess we'll see and hear more about it this evening. I'm very excited because boy, is that livery pretty.

alright now I'm starting to think their CEO is high, either way, the event I guess is happening right now or Dan from Dj’s Aviation is late in the Twitter posts.

"Rob McKinney notes that Northern Pacific Airways have already had discussions with Boom Technology over the acquisition of their Supersonic aircraft moving forward."

https://twitter.com/DjsAviation/status/ ... 7661095937

Also here's their seats. They look pretty comfy image link: https://twitter.com/DjsAviation/status/ ... 7276047360

https://twitter.com/DjsAviation/status/ ... 86113?s=20 A guess a lounge is coming to ANC too

Northern Pacific, sounds like a Railroad.

bravotango75 wrote:

Northern Pacific, sounds like a Railroad.

it was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Pacific_Railway

The jet is alive courtesy of Dan from Dj’s Aviation: https://twitter.com/DjsAviation

I really like their livery and the seats looks smart. Wish them all the best.

inconveniently this video was posted today by the YouTuber Austin Scott Aviation titled "Is Northern Pacific Airways a SCAM?". TLDR: watched the whole vid, doesn't give the answer, just red flags. Says he will give an answer in part 2, I'm the only one that left a comment on the video.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-hhdoy_z5E

Cardude2 wrote:

The jet is alive courtesy of Dan from Dj’s Aviation: https://twitter.com/DjsAviation

They could've done better with the livery in my opinion. Doesn't exactly convey the look, feel & culture of the "Northern Pacific".

MavyWavyATR wrote:

Cardude2 wrote:

The jet is alive courtesy of Dan from Dj’s Aviation: https://twitter.com/DjsAviation

They could've done better with the livery in my opinion. Doesn't exactly convey the look, feel & culture of the "Northern Pacific".

Honestly, I don't know what does besides Icelandair 2 special liveries and northern pacific original livery before they altered it.

ANC-LHR is right at the max range of the 757. I wonder if they would consider this or a couple other destinations in northern Europe during the summer season. If so, ANC-Hawaii becomes significantly more attractive as it allows Northern Pacific to offer the fastest and most direct Europe - Hawaii routing. At least until someone offers a nonstop, if that ever happens.

more images here: https://twitter.com/DjsAviation

flyPIT wrote:

ANC-LHR is right at the max range of the 757. I wonder if they would consider this or a couple other destinations in northern Europe during the summer season. If so, ANC-Hawaii becomes significantly more attractive as it allows Northern Pacific to offer the fastest and most direct Europe - Hawaii routing. At least until someone offers a nonstop, if that ever happens.

last I checked the UK is a bit far. Really you can only do Scandinavia, St Petersburg, and Moscow from ANC.

also, one last thing from Dan, "Northern Pacific Airways are already looking towards the 737 MAX 9 & 10 and the A321XLR moving forward. They’ll either go Airbus or Boeing and are in discussions over wide-body aircraft moving forward. Targeting prices of 10-15% under what people are paying. Potentially 25%" Source: https://twitter.com/DjsAviation/status/ ... LK9ZYpAAAA

Cardude2 wrote:

also, one last thing from Dan, "Northern Pacific Airways are already looking towards the 737 MAX 9 & 10 and the A321XLR moving forward. They’ll either go Airbus or Boeing and are in discussions over wide-body aircraft moving forward. Targeting prices of 10-15% under what people are paying. Potentially 25%" Source: https://twitter.com/DjsAviation/status/ ... LK9ZYpAAAA

oh and "Northern Pacific Airways will offer 3 classes, that includes Economy, Economy+ and finally Business Class. They are close to 9 firm commitments on the 757s, however, they’d ideally want to reach 12. Launch is expected for Q3 of this year. It might slide to Q4"



image and info source: https://twitter.com/DjsAviation/status/ ... 81/photo/1

Cardude2 wrote:

inconveniently this video was posted today by the YouTuber Austin Scott Aviation titled "Is Northern Pacific Airways a SCAM?". TLDR: watched the whole vid, doesn't give the answer, just red flags. Says he will give an answer in part 2, I'm the only one that left a comment on the video.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-hhdoy_z5E

It’s definitely a scam. This guy is just soaking up investment from public and private whirl pedaling. a plan that makes no sense

32andBelow wrote:

Cardude2 wrote:

inconveniently this video was posted today by the YouTuber Austin Scott Aviation titled "Is Northern Pacific Airways a SCAM?". TLDR: watched the whole vid, doesn't give the answer, just red flags. Says he will give an answer in part 2, I'm the only one that left a comment on the video.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-hhdoy_z5E

It’s definitely a scam. This guy is just soaking up investment from public and private whirl pedaling. a plan that makes no sense

Bingo.

Rob McKinney is a slime and everything he touches turns to mush. He comes in to run the new Ravn and I wouldn’t call that a raging success at this point. Why not perfect that before jumping into this extremely high risk, IMO terrible business model that is Northern Pacific? Sure, it could work, but I don’t see how.

It’s a lot easier to connect to mainland Europe via KEF than it would be to connect to Asia via ANC. Wish them the best, but I wouldn’t even invest Skittles in a Rob McKinney led effort.

32andBelow wrote:

Cardude2 wrote:

inconveniently this video was posted today by the YouTuber Austin Scott Aviation titled "Is Northern Pacific Airways a SCAM?". TLDR: watched the whole vid, doesn't give the answer, just red flags. Says he will give an answer in part 2, I'm the only one that left a comment on the video.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-hhdoy_z5E

It’s definitely a scam. This guy is just soaking up investment from public and private whirl pedaling. a plan that makes no sense

I don't know about that video... it seems to be grasping at straws.

Do I think NorPac has the most secure, best business model when you look at what covid has done to US-Asia travel? Not at all.

Does the CEO seem slimy from what many people have said? I guess so...

But are they a full-blown scam? I find that hard to believe. Their plan seems pretty harebrained to me, for sure, considering how different the US-Asia and US-Europe markets are. But some of the points brought up in that video can easily be disputed:

1. The youtuber thinks that them choosing the 757 is sketchy, when PVG and HKG are out of its range from ANC, since this is a major part of Asia that can't be reached with their (current) plans. Well, in today's unveiling, the CEO revealed that they are looking at the MAX and XLR as 757 replacement, and are "in discussions over wide-body aircraft moving forward" per DJ Aviation's Twitter. https://twitter.com/DjsAviation/status/ ... 94/photo/1

2. Another of the things he seems to think is sketchy is that N627NP is not in Anchorage. He thinks that it is, for some reason, "stuck" in San Bernardino. Well, today's unveiling was located in–you guessed it–the hangar that 627NP currently occupies in SBD before it is flown out to ANC. And even so, what's the rush for it to go out to ANC? They're only planning on starting operations in Q3/Q4 of this year and the 757 will much prefer SBD's dry climate as opposed to the very wet ANC. Shouldn't they have ample time?

It just seems like a lot of grasping at straws in order to make an interesting-looking video. If it really does end up being a scam, though, good for the people that will be able to say "I told you so". I just think it's a poorly thought out vision rather than an actual scam. I am more interested in finding out what they're going to do with those 12 752s every winter, because the extreme seasonality of the operation is the most intriguing element to me, not whether it's legit or a scam.