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jetmatt777 wrote:I imagine United has talked to the rental car agencies and has some plan to get some services in place at Bishop.
jetmatt777 wrote:I imagine United has talked to the rental car agencies and has some plan to get some services in place at Bishop.
USAirALB wrote:Discontinuing MMH is interesting as IIRC they are currently in the process of expanding the terminal and apron to allow for larger aircraft.
What is the drive like between Mammoth Lakes and Bishop in the winter time?
LAXintl wrote:The only reason MMH was flown was because of the ski area subsidy, which now has been transferred to Bishop airport. This move was originally supposed to happen in October 2020, but COVID upended things. Shuttle service will be available to Mammoth Mountain ski resort.
While Bishop will be operationally more reliable, not sure it will necessarily benefit taking the air service as you just added a 1-hour road journey. In many ways now makes it more appealing just to drive the entire way from LA for instance.
airlinepeanuts wrote:Bishop as in Bishop California!? That’s way cool!! How long (if ever) has it been since they’ve had commercial service!?
airlinepeanuts wrote:Bishop as in Bishop California!? That’s way cool!! How long (if ever) has it been since they’ve had commercial service!?
FATFlyer wrote:Inyo County will set up a 50-foot-by-60-foot tensioned fabric terminal at BIH for immediate use. The county says it already has funds to build a more permanent terminal in the next 5 years.
https://sierrawave.net/inyo-county-supervisors-authorize-purchase-of-temporary-structure-for-commercial-air-passengers-at-bishop-airport/
The airport change is partially driven by Mammoth Mountain Ski Area owner Alterra's desire to draw visitors from a larger area than just Southern California. Alterra wants Mammoth to develop into a larger year-round resort more like the Tahoe/Rocky Mountain area resorts. The company has just announced plans for an expansion of the main lodge area with more lodging, food, and retail. The move of flights to BIH is an attempt to make service more reliable for those connecting from areas outside of California.
ahj2000 wrote:Bishop airport is owned by the city of LA apparently. Does that have anything to do with it?
mercure1 wrote:With BIH being at 4000'msl vs. MMH @ 7000'msl, I'm sure the runway takeoff performance is much better. Maybe a 737/A320 could get in there with some limitations if the resort biz really takes off (pun intended).
LAXintl wrote:The only reason MMH was flown was because of the ski area subsidy, which now has been transferred to Bishop airport. This move was originally supposed to happen in October 2020, but COVID upended things. Shuttle service will be available to Mammoth Mountain ski resort.
While Bishop will be operationally more reliable, not sure it will necessarily benefit taking the air service as you just added a 1-hour road journey. In many ways now makes it more appealing just to drive the entire way from LA for instance.
atcdan wrote:Max 4 1/2 hour drive from LA with a stop for food, and it’s a pretty drive too.
YQBexYHZBGM wrote:When I read the header for this thread, I thought it was referring to FNT
Was wondering why they'd be announcing such long haul flights.
ahj2000 wrote:Bishop airport is owned by the city of LA apparently. Does that have anything to do with it?
jayunited wrote:UA's O&D pax numbers at SFO increase in June to 45% of our pre-COVID levels, the largest one month increase for UA at SFO since the pandemic. Keep in mind the Bay Area was under a severe lockdown throughout much of this pandemic and really didn't lift those restrictions until June 15th or so, so a 14% increase in O&D passengers is good.
UA's O&D pax numbers at LAX increase in June to 58% of our pre-COVID levels, just a 4% increase over May.
Comparing LAX to SFO even though they are in the same state isn't really a fair comparison because the lockdown in the Bay Area was much more severe than it was Los Angeles/County. The Bay Area like New York City has just begun to come out of their COVID hibernation, no way United pivots toward LAX.
Since April, SFO has been working on the complete resurfacing of its longest runway, 20 hours a day, six days a week.
"What we're standing on is really the life blood of an airport and it really allows everything to flow in and out of this space," said SF Airport Information Officer Doug Yakel.
The $160 million project will soon be delivered on budget and a year ahead of the original schedule. "We were actually planning on doing this in 2022, but we decided to do it now to take advantage of the reduced flight schedule, so that it would have less of an impact on our travelers," said Mr. Yakel.
Scarebus34 wrote:Some good news - United has reopened some United Clubs at line stations and has set a schedule for when others will open.
Now: AUS, HNL, MCO
July: CLE, FLL, LAS, LGA, SAN
August: ATL, BOS, DCA, DFW, RDU, SAT, SNA
September: MSP, MSY, PHL, PDX, SEA
Also announced that construction will resume on the newest United Club in PHX. Plans also being developed to reopen Polaris lounges as well as international United Club locations.
Scarebus34 wrote:Some good news - United has reopened some United Clubs at line stations and has set a schedule for when others will open.
Now: AUS, HNL, MCO
July: CLE, FLL, LAS, LGA, SAN
August: ATL, BOS, DCA, DFW, RDU, SAT, SNA
September: MSP, MSY, PHL, PDX, SEA
Also announced that construction will resume on the newest United Club in PHX. Plans also being developed to reopen Polaris lounges as well as international United Club locations.
Scarebus34 wrote:Some good news - United has reopened some United Clubs at line stations and has set a schedule for when others will open.
Now: AUS, HNL, MCO
July: CLE, FLL, LAS, LGA, SAN
August: ATL, BOS, DCA, DFW, RDU, SAT, SNA
September: MSP, MSY, PHL, PDX, SEA
Also announced that construction will resume on the newest United Club in PHX. Plans also being developed to reopen Polaris lounges as well as international United Club locations.
cosyr wrote:Scarebus34 wrote:Some good news - United has reopened some United Clubs at line stations and has set a schedule for when others will open.
Now: AUS, HNL, MCO
July: CLE, FLL, LAS, LGA, SAN
August: ATL, BOS, DCA, DFW, RDU, SAT, SNA
September: MSP, MSY, PHL, PDX, SEA
Also announced that construction will resume on the newest United Club in PHX. Plans also being developed to reopen Polaris lounges as well as international United Club locations.
Any updates on the construction of the UA club at EWR? I went through EWR last week, but we didn't have time to go over there and look. I don't think I would have known what the progress is like inside anyway, just what the concourse looks like from the outside of the club.
codc10 wrote:cosyr wrote:Scarebus34 wrote:Some good news - United has reopened some United Clubs at line stations and has set a schedule for when others will open.
Now: AUS, HNL, MCO
July: CLE, FLL, LAS, LGA, SAN
August: ATL, BOS, DCA, DFW, RDU, SAT, SNA
September: MSP, MSY, PHL, PDX, SEA
Also announced that construction will resume on the newest United Club in PHX. Plans also being developed to reopen Polaris lounges as well as international United Club locations.
Any updates on the construction of the UA club at EWR? I went through EWR last week, but we didn't have time to go over there and look. I don't think I would have known what the progress is like inside anyway, just what the concourse looks like from the outside of the club.
Yes, it is under construction, and the area cordoned off for it is massive. Can't really see inside from the terminal but interior work is underway.
sldispatcher wrote:Beefier July schedule underway.
Reports on morale amongst employees?
Scarebus34 wrote:sldispatcher wrote:Beefier July schedule underway.
Reports on morale amongst employees?
Depends who you ask. Overall, not good.
Scarebus34 wrote:sldispatcher wrote:Beefier July schedule underway.
Reports on morale amongst employees?
Depends who you ask. Overall, not good.
LHUSA wrote:Scarebus34 wrote:sldispatcher wrote:Beefier July schedule underway.
Reports on morale amongst employees?
Depends who you ask. Overall, not good.
Interesting. I have the complete opposite observation. Myself and every single other employee I know are extremely optimistic about the future and grateful for the leadership of Scott. Yes there are current challenges, but we’ve just been through ans are still recovering from a pandemic. All of my recent flights have had outstanding crew, the excitement is palpable. In my division and those I work with there is a massive (but still slightly cautious) feeling of relief and gratitude. I could see how some CSRs are over worked or stressed, but we are doing massive campaigns to hire additional staff, people are just not showing up for interviews.
Scarebus34 wrote:sldispatcher wrote:Beefier July schedule underway.
Reports on morale amongst employees?
Depends who you ask. Overall, not good.
LHUSA wrote:Scarebus34 wrote:sldispatcher wrote:Beefier July schedule underway.
Reports on morale amongst employees?
Depends who you ask. Overall, not good.
Interesting. I have the complete opposite observation. Myself and every single other employee I know are extremely optimistic about the future and grateful for the leadership of Scott. Yes there are current challenges, but we’ve just been through ans are still recovering from a pandemic. All of my recent flights have had outstanding crew, the excitement is palpable. In my division and those I work with there is a massive (but still slightly cautious) feeling of relief and gratitude. I could see how some CSRs are over worked or stressed, but we are doing massive campaigns to hire additional staff, people are just not showing up for interviews.
jayunited wrote:I guess there are some non-operational folks at Willis still working this holiday weekend because late last night they revised our total revenue passenger for this week June 27 - July 3rd and the comparison to last week is just astounding. United expected an increase in revenue passengers but the numbers released last night demonstrates American's desire to get away this 4th of July holiday.
Last Week June 20th - June 26th, 2.2 million revenue passengers flew on United Airlines
This Week June 27th - July 3rd, 2.6 million revenue passenger flew on United Airlines
Last Friday June 25th the numbers showed an increase of 263,000 revenue passengers for the holiday week which would have put United right under 2.5 million revenue passengers for this week. Now with the update late last night once this week ends tonight at 23:59 United states 2.6 million revenue passengers would have flown on our aircraft. There were extra sections/fliers added this week and even with the weather United has tried to limit the number of cancellations although we had our fair share. It hasn't been pretty we've had flights delayed 7, 8, 9 or even 10 hours this week but canceling flights with the load factors we've seen this week would only exacerbate the problem for passengers.
What I began hearing last week when the first set of holiday numbers were released was United isn't really that concerned about Labor Day we do expect a boost in traffic around Labor Day but nothing like what we are seeing for the 4th of July. Once the 4th is behind us United will turn its attention to Thanksgiving. The thinking is this if the 4th of July is this crazy busy what are the days or week leading into Thanksgiving 2021 going to look like?
Over the span of 7 days once today ends United would have seen a surge in revenue passengers to the tune of 400,000 for the 4th of July. It has been all over the news 4th of July travel will hit pre-pandemic levels this year. If we hit pre-pandemic levels this Thanksgiving is this industry ready to accommodate that many travelers? Is United Airlines ready for that type of traffic? In my opinion we are barely keeping it together for this holiday, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned about Thanksgiving.
sldispatcher wrote:Is anyone at Willis Tower a little unnerved by Commutair’s performance metrics or is the regional doing about as expected under all of the various circumstances?
codc10 wrote:sldispatcher wrote:Is anyone at Willis Tower a little unnerved by Commutair’s performance metrics or is the regional doing about as expected under all of the various circumstances?
The introduction of a new contractor, or a contractor spooling up a new base is usually an operational disaster, but CommutAir ops in DEN are going poorly even by this relatively low standard. Still, I don't anticipate much, if anything, will change. There are contract penalties, UA will add extra mainline sections where possible to move pax, and the train rolls on...