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American Eagle E170 in retro paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:11 am

I heard a rumor on Facebook that American Eagle is repainting one of their Embraer E170/175 in the older
American Eagle paint with the eagle on the tail and red white blue cheat line.Can anyone verify if this is true,
Maybe part of their heritage fleet.
 
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Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:40 am

 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:47 am

Speaking of E170s, is there a seat map available for them anywhere? Scheduled to fly on one in a month and I know they have been just introduced into the Eagle fleet, I'm scheduled to fly on one via Republic.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:06 am

ikolkyo wrote:
Speaking of E170s, is there a seat map available for them anywhere? Scheduled to fly on one in a month and I know they have been just introduced into the Eagle fleet, I'm scheduled to fly on one via Republic.


https://www.seatguru.com
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:07 am

What's the reg?
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:17 am

freakyrat wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
Speaking of E170s, is there a seat map available for them anywhere? Scheduled to fly on one in a month and I know they have been just introduced into the Eagle fleet, I'm scheduled to fly on one via Republic.


https://www.seatguru.com


I've already tried this, there is no seat map available
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:26 am

ikolkyo wrote:
freakyrat wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
Speaking of E170s, is there a seat map available for them anywhere? Scheduled to fly on one in a month and I know they have been just introduced into the Eagle fleet, I'm scheduled to fly on one via Republic.


https://www.seatguru.com


I've already tried this, there is no seat map available


Republic flies the E175 version for American Airlines. Below is a link to the seatguru seating chart. Seating charts are also available on the American Airlines website.

https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ameri ... MB-175.php
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:33 am

maps4ltd wrote:
What's the reg?

N762DT
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:42 am

freakyrat wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
freakyrat wrote:


I've already tried this, there is no seat map available


Republic flies the E175 version for American Airlines. Below is a link to the seatguru seating chart. Seating charts are also available on the American Airlines website.

https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ameri ... MB-175.php


The E170 is currently being introduced into the fleet and does not yet have a seat-map published. I’m very aware of the differences between the -170 and 175. The -170 will fly in a 65 seat configuration for American Eagle.
https://thepointsguy.com/news/american- ... braer-170/
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:51 am

Sorry to disappoint y'all. That photo is fake. The only Envoy 170 that has gone to paint so far has been N761RW, and it's not in heritage paint.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:30 am

Its too recent for that livery to be considered “retro” anyway.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:53 pm

Heh, in the past I had no idea that no e170 was ever in that paintjob (I think that was the case).

Should have kept an e145 in that paintjob? No?

n797mx wrote:
Sorry to disappoint y'all. That photo is fake. The only Envoy 170 that has gone to paint so far has been N761RW, and it's not in heritage paint.


Oh really ?Ah!
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:16 pm

n797mx wrote:
Sorry to disappoint y'all. That photo is fake. The only Envoy 170 that has gone to paint so far has been N761RW, and it's not in heritage paint.


are you sure? N760mq and N762dt are in macon which has paint. N761rw is in abeline and i havent seen abeline airport paint planes.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:58 pm

CarlosSi wrote:
Heh, in the past I had no idea that no e170 was ever in that paintjob (I think that was the case).


E-Jets never wore that paint scheme, just ER3/D/4 and CR7s before the merger and CR2s after (plus, obviously, a menagerie of props).
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:00 pm

F27500 wrote:
Its too recent for that livery to be considered “retro” anyway.


Considering how long ago that paint scheme came out though? It might as well be.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:01 pm

Cubsrule wrote:
CarlosSi wrote:
Heh, in the past I had no idea that no e170 was ever in that paintjob (I think that was the case).


E-Jets never wore that paint scheme, just ER3/D/4 and CR7s before the merger and CR2s after (plus, obviously, a menagerie of props).


I think it's a retro paint job and not necessarily true to the exact plane that carried that paint job. AA Mainline has a lot of retro paint jobs.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:34 pm

Is it truly truly a retrojet if the jet has previously worn that paintjob in that paintjob before ;) ? Raw thought, but otherwise it might feel "accidental" and look like the airline "missed a spot" rather than intentionally painting a plane in a special scheme.

I really like Air Canada's retro a220.

https://simpleflying.com/wp-content/upl ... 220_03.png
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:56 pm

CarlosSi wrote:
Is it truly truly a retrojet if the jet has previously worn that paintjob in that paintjob before ;) ? Raw thought, but otherwise it might feel "accidental" and look like the airline "missed a spot" rather than intentionally painting a plane in a special scheme.

I really like Air Canada's retro a220.

https://simpleflying.com/wp-content/upl ... 220_03.png


What are you talking about? The E170 has never previously worn that paint job....
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:07 pm

PITFlyer330 wrote:
n797mx wrote:
Sorry to disappoint y'all. That photo is fake. The only Envoy 170 that has gone to paint so far has been N761RW, and it's not in heritage paint.


are you sure? N760mq and N762dt are in macon which has paint. N761rw is in abeline and i havent seen abeline airport paint planes.

Are these brand new registrations? I can't even find them on Flightaware, which is unusual. I can find N761RW but not the 760MQ or 762DT.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:16 pm

n797mx wrote:
Sorry to disappoint y'all. That photo is fake. The only Envoy 170 that has gone to paint so far has been N761RW, and it's not in heritage paint.


Not true at all. There’s two in paint right now.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in retro paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:42 pm

I mentioned this the other day in the American Eagle thread but back in April the Envoy Facebook page posted about the retirement of the last E140 wearing the old livery and teased that it wouldn't be the last time we'd see the livery.

"Embraer ERJ-140 aircraft #N842AE went into retirement on Tuesday, April 27, 2021. This plane, delivered to us in December 2002, was the last active unit to wear the original 1984 American Eagle ‘Scissor Eagle’ livery. Some might say that it’s seemingly the end of an era . . . or is it? The late great Sean Connery said in 1971 that he would never play the role of James Bond again. How did that turn out? Check out the gallery of photos from our fellow AVgeeks of aircraft N842AE over the years." Also on the same post, Envoy commented a light bulb emoji when someone mentioned that an E170 should be painted in the old livery.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:45 pm

PITFlyer330 wrote:
n797mx wrote:
Sorry to disappoint y'all. That photo is fake. The only Envoy 170 that has gone to paint so far has been N761RW, and it's not in heritage paint.


are you sure? N760mq and N762dt are in macon which has paint. N761rw is in abeline and i havent seen abeline airport paint planes.

Looking at 761 right now actually. Not in the old colors.

The BACF planes are going to ROW for paint, then ABI for conformity.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:52 pm

n797mx wrote:
Sorry to disappoint y'all. That photo is fake. The only Envoy 170 that has gone to paint so far has been N761RW, and it's not in heritage paint.


The aircraft and scheme has been confirmed internally, and from several coworkers (I work for AAG), so Im not sure how you came to this conclusion.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in retro paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:35 pm

It’s like being back over CHSTR inbound for 14R.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:38 pm

floridaflyboy wrote:
CarlosSi wrote:
Is it truly truly a retrojet if the jet has previously worn that paintjob in that paintjob before ;) ? Raw thought, but otherwise it might feel "accidental" and look like the airline "missed a spot" rather than intentionally painting a plane in a special scheme.

I really like Air Canada's retro a220.

https://simpleflying.com/wp-content/upl ... 220_03.png


What are you talking about? The E170 has never previously worn that paint job....


Whoops, forgot to mention why not put it on an e145 in the beginning, which then asks the question "is it really retro if you just not long ago had that livery on that same jet"?

To which I say, I suppose... I always think of at least a couple of generations back before it's "retro" and not just a now retired livery.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:09 pm

UA748i wrote:
n797mx wrote:
Sorry to disappoint y'all. That photo is fake. The only Envoy 170 that has gone to paint so far has been N761RW, and it's not in heritage paint.


The aircraft and scheme has been confirmed internally, and from several coworkers (I work for AAG), so Im not sure how you came to this conclusion.

The photo is fake. I never said anything about the paint scheme being fake or there never being a heritage paint.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:44 pm

UA748i wrote:
n797mx wrote:
Sorry to disappoint y'all. That photo is fake. The only Envoy 170 that has gone to paint so far has been N761RW, and it's not in heritage paint.


The aircraft and scheme has been confirmed internally, and from several coworkers (I work for AAG), so Im not sure how you came to this conclusion.



I'm confused. Is there going to be or is there a plane painted in the retro colors out there? I really like the old colors of Eagle. I like it alot better than the current paint scheme.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in retro paint job

Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:52 pm

CATIIIevery5yrs wrote:
It’s like being back over CHSTR inbound for 14R.


Holy crap that brings back memories.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:39 am

airlinepeanuts wrote:
I think it's a retro paint job and not necessarily true to the exact plane that carried that paint job. AA Mainline has a lot of retro paint jobs.


Most AA retro schemes are on aircraft that never wore the colors originally... The Allegheny, Piedmont, and PSA 319s, the Reno Air, AirCal, and TWA 738s, even the AstroJet 738. The America West 319, the US Airways 321, and the legacy AA 738 are the exceptions, I believe.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in retro paint job

Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:44 am

Sure beats the current livery.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in retro paint job

Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:49 am

I guess we'll find out whether this is legit or not soon enough.

Either way, I always preferred the old Eagle livery over the old bare-metal mainline livery. The stripes were always so big and bold on the smaller regional aircraft (except for those that had huge windows to where they just lined the stripes below them, like the Metro and Jetstream). The standalone scissor-eagle looked better on the tail as well.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:13 am

F27500 wrote:
Its too recent for that livery to be considered “retro” anyway.


To soon on that plane or too soon on any plane. After all there have been Retro 737-800's & they never flew those models in the AA paint.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:50 am

n797mx wrote:
UA748i wrote:
n797mx wrote:
Sorry to disappoint y'all. That photo is fake. The only Envoy 170 that has gone to paint so far has been N761RW, and it's not in heritage paint.


The aircraft and scheme has been confirmed internally, and from several coworkers (I work for AAG), so Im not sure how you came to this conclusion.

The photo is fake. I never said anything about the paint scheme being fake or there never being a heritage paint.


I’m pretty sure this photo is not a fake. There is confirmation floating around from inside AA and Envoy and ALPA.
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in retro paint job

Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:36 am

Seeing a 170 in that scheme gives me SF340 vibes.

The classic American Eagle paint has always been one of my favorite liveries, along with Saul Bass. I guess I’m just a sucker for cheatlines.

Here’s to hoping the photo is legit!
 
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Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:04 am

FSDan wrote:
airlinepeanuts wrote:
I think it's a retro paint job and not necessarily true to the exact plane that carried that paint job. AA Mainline has a lot of retro paint jobs.


Most AA retro schemes are on aircraft that never wore the colors originally... The Allegheny, Piedmont, and PSA 319s, the Reno Air, AirCal, and TWA 738s, even the AstroJet 738. The America West 319, the US Airways 321, and the legacy AA 738 are the exceptions, I believe.


I email DP every few months to ask for a Trans-Caribbean retrojet but I'm still waiting....
Hopefully on one of the 737MAX8's,
 
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Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:13 am

CarlosSi wrote:
Heh, in the past I had no idea that no e170 was ever in that paintjob (I think that was the case).

Should have kept an e145 in that paintjob? No?

The E170 was never a pmAA Eagle aircraft. They were first acquired by US Airways (Mid Atlantic) in the early 2000's. Then they were sold off to Republic before eventually being removed from the US Express fleet. Now they're back. And more of them (when all get delivered).
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in older paint job

Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:59 am

FSDan wrote:
airlinepeanuts wrote:
I think it's a retro paint job and not necessarily true to the exact plane that carried that paint job. AA Mainline has a lot of retro paint jobs.


Most AA retro schemes are on aircraft that never wore the colors originally... The Allegheny, Piedmont, and PSA 319s, the Reno Air, AirCal, and TWA 738s, even the AstroJet 738. The America West 319, the US Airways 321, and the legacy AA 738 are the exceptions, I believe.


US Airways had plenty of 321s and for sure wore the USAirways livery.
 
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Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:32 am

NW747-400 wrote:
Seeing a 170 in that scheme gives me SF340 vibes.


Glad I'm not the only one who thought of that. Lack of T-tail I think.
 
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Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:52 am

ContinentalEWR wrote:
FSDan wrote:
airlinepeanuts wrote:
I think it's a retro paint job and not necessarily true to the exact plane that carried that paint job. AA Mainline has a lot of retro paint jobs.


Most AA retro schemes are on aircraft that never wore the colors originally... The Allegheny, Piedmont, and PSA 319s, the Reno Air, AirCal, and TWA 738s, even the AstroJet 738. The America West 319, the US Airways 321, and the legacy AA 738 are the exceptions, I believe.


US Airways had plenty of 321s and for sure wore the USAirways livery.

That's what he was highlighting that the AA HP and US classic liveries are all on fleets they once operated
 
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Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:04 pm

BAINY3 wrote:
PITFlyer330 wrote:
n797mx wrote:
Sorry to disappoint y'all. That photo is fake. The only Envoy 170 that has gone to paint so far has been N761RW, and it's not in heritage paint.


are you sure? N760mq and N762dt are in macon which has paint. N761rw is in abeline and i havent seen abeline airport paint planes.

Are these brand new registrations? I can't even find them on Flightaware, which is unusual. I can find N761RW but not the 760MQ or 762DT.


- New registrations, former BA Cityflyer aircraft
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in retro paint job

Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:44 pm

As PSA727 noted these are not new, but a re-introduction. I wonder how many of them coming back were originally MidAtlantic birds to begin with?
 
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Re: American Eagle E170 in retro paint job

Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:03 pm

phllax wrote:
As PSA727 noted these are not new, but a re-introduction. I wonder how many of them coming back were originally MidAtlantic birds to begin with?


None on the Envoy side. YX had all the old Mid-Atlantic birds I think, and they were all on the Delta side. But Delta announced a while ago that they were gonna draw down their 170's, leaving just the 175's. A few (6 IIRC) are going to the desert (all YX owned) and the rest (like 12-15) are being repainted and given new interiors and being shifted to AA. So, yes you may see some old Mid-Atlantic E170's in Eagle paint, just not for ENY.
 
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Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:08 pm

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As PSA727 noted these are not new, but a re-introduction. I wonder how many of them coming back were originally MidAtlantic birds to begin with?


The ENY 170s are coming from BA CityFlyer and Aeromexico Connect.

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