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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:19 am

LittleFokker wrote:
Week 6

Buccaneers at Eagles, DL A333:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KTPA/KPHL

I am reading that the Jags/Dolphins are expected to fly out later this afternoon, but I cannot find inbound reposition aircraft into either JAX or FLL.


Jags: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/VIR ... /KJAX/EGLL
Fins: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/VIR ... /KMIA/EGSS
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:32 am

LittleFokker wrote:
Week 6

Buccaneers at Eagles, DL A333:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KTPA/KPHL

I am reading that the Jags/Dolphins are expected to fly out later this afternoon, but I cannot find inbound reposition aircraft into either JAX or FLL.

Dolphins are flying out of MIA. Looks like this was the inbound:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/VIR525
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:26 am

Rest of week 6:

Texans at Colts, UA 772:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KIAH/KIND

Packers at Bears, DL A333:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KGRB/KORD

Bengals at Lions, DL A359 for the short hop:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KCVG/KDTW

Rams at Giants, can't find anything on Flight Aware for an AA 789 between LAX and EWR. Video on team Twitter page shows them using N841AN, an AA 789, but Flight Aware history has nothing correlating with LA to NY

Chiefs at Washington FC, UA 764:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KMCI/KBWI

Vikings at Panthers, DL 763:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KMSP/KCLT

Chargers at Ravens, DL 764:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KLGB/KBWI

Raiders at Broncos, HA A332:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/HAL ... /KLAS/KDEN

Cardinals at Browns, 5Y 744:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI ... /KPHX/KCLE

Cowboys at Patriots, AA789:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL ... /KDFW/KPVD

Seahawks at Steelers, DL A333:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KSEA/KPIT

Bills at Titans, DL 763:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KBUF/KBNA
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:16 pm

Week 8 action, starting with Thursday night

Packers at Cardinals, DL A333:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KGRB/KPHX


And just because I don't see any current threads about MLB Charters, there are two DL charter flights tomorrow morning HOU-ATL for the World Series, I presume the 752 is for the Braves and the 739 for FOX Sports?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KHOU/KATL
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KHOU/KATL

Astros will be on a UAL 772 IAH-ATL tomorrow:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KIAH/KATL
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Fri Oct 29, 2021 3:42 pm

Friday Week 8 flights:

49ers at Bears, UA 772:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KSJC/KORD

Patriots at Chargers, team B763:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/EAL ... /KPVD/KLAX
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:25 pm

LittleFokker wrote:
Week 8 action, starting with Thursday night

Packers at Cardinals, DL A333:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KGRB/KPHX


And just because I don't see any current threads about MLB Charters, there are two DL charter flights tomorrow morning HOU-ATL for the World Series, I presume the 752 is for the Braves and the 739 for FOX Sports?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KHOU/KATL
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KHOU/KATL


Teams often fly front office team employees to WS games, which is what the second airplane may be for. Or season ticket holders and player families.
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:42 pm

PhilMcCrackin wrote:
Teams often fly front office team employees to WS games, which is what the second airplane may be for. Or season ticket holders and player families.


That's true and possible, but I also know that FOX charters a flight for their cast and crew for the World Series. In the past, they have used United, but it could be DL for this year. It's been a 737 variant in the past. I highly doubt season ticket holders would be on a team flight though. If they want to travel for their team, then they are on their own for travel (unless there's a special promotion, but I haven't heard of such an occurrence).
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:56 pm

Rest of Week 8:

Panthers at Falcons, DL B764:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KCLT/KATL

Dolphins at Bills, 5Y B744:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI ... /KFLL/KBUF

Steelers at Browns, possible drive? I think they have in the past

Titans at Colts, DL B764:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KBNA/KIND

Bengals at Jets, DL B763:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KCVG/KEWR

Jaguars at Seahawks, 5Y B744:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI ... /KJAX/KSEA

Washington FC at Broncos, UA B772:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KIAD/KDEN

Buccaneers at Saints, DL A359:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KTPA/KMSY
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Sat Oct 30, 2021 1:26 pm

LittleFokker wrote:
PhilMcCrackin wrote:
I highly doubt season ticket holders would be on a team flight though. If they want to travel for their team, then they are on their own for travel (unless there's a special promotion, but I haven't heard of such an occurrence).


This happens quite often. I know the Baltimore Ravens do this often with various promotions. I would think other teams do the same.
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:28 pm

 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Sun Oct 31, 2021 12:53 am

Joshu wrote:
LittleFokker wrote:
PhilMcCrackin wrote:
I highly doubt season ticket holders would be on a team flight though. If they want to travel for their team, then they are on their own for travel (unless there's a special promotion, but I haven't heard of such an occurrence).


This happens quite often. I know the Baltimore Ravens do this often with various promotions. I would think other teams do the same.


Real-world examples please, as I know of few (if any) teams doing this.
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:50 am

I found 4 flights related to the World Series getting extended to a game 6 Tuesday night.

Astros, UA B773: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KATL/KIAH

Braves, DL B752 and DL A333:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KATL/KIAH
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KATL/KIAH

And then a B6 A321 charter flight, no idea who it's for:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/JBU ... /KATL/KHOU
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:29 pm

airportugal310 wrote:
Joshu wrote:
LittleFokker wrote:


This happens quite often. I know the Baltimore Ravens do this often with various promotions. I would think other teams do the same.


Real-world examples please, as I know of few (if any) teams doing this.


I personally know four people (unrelated in any fashion with each other) who have flown with the team. One was a politician, so I am not sure that counts. I am just speaking to the Baltimore Ravens, and those who I know flew with the team to a game. This was prior to the pandemic.
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:24 am

Week 9 Thursday night, Jets at Colts, UA B772:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KEWR/KIND

And the Braves charters, with an extra 15 lbs piece of cargo:

DL A333: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KIAH/KATL
DL B752: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KIAH/KATL
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:08 pm

More Week 9 flights

Browns at Bengals, UA B764:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KCLE/KCVG

Broncos at Cowboys, UA B772:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KDEN/KDFW

Texans at Dolphins, UA B772:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KIAH/KFLL

Falcons at Saints, DL A359:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KATL/KMSY

Raiders at Giants, HA A332 (Friday flight):
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/HAL ... /KLAS/KEWR

Patriots at Panthers, Team B763 handled by Eastern Airlines
EAL 3614 PVD-CLT

Bills at Jaguars, DL B763:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KBUF/KJAX

Vikings at Ravens, DL A332:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KMSP/KBWI

Chargers at Eagles, DL A333:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KLAX/KPHL

Packers at Chiefs, DL B763:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KGRB/KMCI

Titans at Rams, DL A333:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KBNA/KLAX

Bears at Steelers, UA B753 ((Monday Night game):
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KORD/KPIT
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:36 pm

Best source of information about NFL Charters is JetTip on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/jettipnet?s=21
 
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:31 pm

LittleFokker wrote:
Week 10
Rams at 49ers, AA 9749


Looks like the Rams got a B788 for the short hop up north:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL ... /KLAX/KSJC
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:10 pm

Week 11 Thursday night, Patriots at Falcons, company B763 dispatched by Eastern Air Lines:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/EAL ... /KPVD/KATL
 
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:04 pm

 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:25 pm

Raiders still using HA A333's this year?

Looking forward to seeing that rare bird at KDFW later today :)
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:28 pm

Week 12, beginning with Gobble Gobble Gag games:

Bears at Lions, UA B753:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KORD/KDTW

Raiders at Cowboys, HA A332 (HAL712)

Bills at Saints, DL A333:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KBUF/KMSY


Worth mentioning that there's 6 weeks left and the Eagles are possibly done with charter flights. Only 3 road games left against the Giants, Jets, and Washington FC. IIRC, Eagles typically drive to both of those stadiums since they're each about 90 minute drives.
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:23 pm

LittleFokker wrote:
Raiders at Cowboys, HA A332 (HAL712)


HA is always slow to file their flight plans. And I guess they're using HAL 716 now:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/HAL ... /KLAS/KDFW
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:41 pm

Week 13, Thursday Night

Cowboys at Saints, AA B772:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL ... /KDFW/KMSY
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:40 pm

Big surprise this week, Washington FC only taking a UAL B753 for their cross country flight to face the Raiders:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KIAD/KLAS
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:12 pm

it seems that the majors carry most, if not all of not only the NFL teams, but the other major sports teams as well.

Which leads to my question, do any LCC's fly sports teams around, namely JetBlue, Southwest, Frontier, Spirit etc?
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:00 pm

twoaislesforme wrote:
it seems that the majors carry most, if not all of not only the NFL teams, but the other major sports teams as well.

Which leads to my question, do any LCC's fly sports teams around, namely JetBlue, Southwest, Frontier, Spirit etc?


At the pro level, I think they prefer the majors for the large aircraft and/or amenities (Atlas Air and Hawaiian do NFL charters too). I think the NFLPA agreement actually specifies a minimum aircraft size for travel. I know that in the past, having in seat TV screens was a big selling point to teams.

The smaller airlines get a piece of the college action. If you look at the college charter threads, G4, B6, SY, and WN have done college football charter flights. A couple of other smaller charter outfits like Swiftaero have also gotten in the game.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1464171
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:27 pm

The New England Patriots have a pair of B763's, one of which is leased to 2D (Eastern Airlines), the other carries the Patriots to games. Both are crewed & maintained by 2D. When the Pats are onboard, the pilots use the interesting ATC callsign "Underdog". I don't know if team owner, Bob Kraft has the Patriots' flights blocked on the tracking sites.

https://www.planespotters.net/airline/N ... d-Patriots
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:18 pm

FLALEFTY wrote:
The New England Patriots have a pair of B763's, one of which is leased to 2D (Eastern Airlines), the other carries the Patriots to games. Both are crewed & maintained by 2D. When the Pats are onboard, the pilots use the interesting ATC callsign "Underdog". I don't know if team owner, Bob Kraft has the Patriots' flights blocked on the tracking sites.

https://www.planespotters.net/airline/N ... d-Patriots

They are both on Eastern’s AOC. Patriots signed over both planes to them.
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:20 pm

Wednesday, December 1

Dallas Cowboys @ New Orleans Saints
DFW (3pm CT) - MSY (430pm CT), AAL9748, B772

Friday, December 3

Dallas Cowboys @ New Orleans Saints
MSY (1220am CT) - DFW (2am CT), AAL9748, B772

Jacksonville Jaguars @ Los Angeles Rams
JAX (4pm ET) - LAX (6pm PT), GTI8056, B744

Saturday, December 4

Tampa Bay Buccaneers @ Atlanta Falcons
TPA (540pm ET) - ATL (705pm ET), DAL8869, B763

Arizona Cardinals @ Chicago Bears
PHX (1130am MST) - ORD (345pm CT), GTI8058, B744

Los Angeles Chargers @ Cincinnati Bengals
LAX (10am PT) - CVG (5pm ET), DAL8865, A333

Minnesota Vikings @ Detroit Lions
MSP (130pm CT) - DTW (405pm ET), DAL8866, B763

New York Giants @ Miami Dolphins
EWR (2pm ET) - FLL (510pm ET), UAL2537, B772

Indianapolis Colts @ Houston Texans
IND (230pm ET) - EFD (4pm CT), DAL8871, B763

Washington Football Team @ Las Vegas Raiders
IAD (1220pm ET) - LAS (230pm PT), UAL2533, B772

Baltimore Ravens @ Pittsburgh Steelers
BWI (2pm ET) - PIT (310pm ET), GTI8054, B744

San Francisco 49ers @ Seattle Seahawks
SJC (145pm PT) - SEA (405pm PT), UAL2540, B772

Denver Broncos @ Kansas City Chiefs
DEN (215pm MT) - MCI (505pm CT), UAL2544, B764

Sunday, December 5

Tampa Bay Buccaneers @ Atlanta Falcons
ATL (6pm ET) - TPA (725pm ET), DAL8869, B763

Arizona Cardinals @ Chicago Bears
ORD (6pm CT) - PHX (9pm MST), GTI8059, B744

Los Angeles Chargers @ Cincinnati Bengals
CVG (6pm ET) - LAX (8pm PT), DAL8865, A333

Minnesota Vikings @ Detroit Lions
DTW (6pm ET) - MSP (654pm CT), DAL8866, B763

New York Giants @ Miami Dolphins
FLL (530pm ET) - TUS (820pm MST), UAL2537, B772

Indianapolis Colts @ Houston Texans
EFD (5pm CT) - IND (810pm ET), DAL8871, B763

Washington Football Team @ Las Vegas Raiders
LAS (535pm PT) - IAD (1245am ET), UAL2533, B772

Jacksonville Jaguars @ Los Angeles Rams
LAX (555pm PT) - JAX (115am ET), GTI8057, B744

Baltimore Ravens @ Pittsburgh Steelers
PIT (830pm ET) - BWI (940pm ET), GTI8055, B744

San Francisco 49ers @ Seattle Seahawks
SEA (950pm PT) - SFO (1155pm PT), UAL2540, B772

Denver Broncos @ Kansas City Chiefs
MCI (430pm CT) - DEN (515pm MT), UAL2544, B764

New England Patriots @ Buffalo Bills
PVD (230pm ET) - BUF (350pm ET), EAL3608, B763

Tuesday, December 7

New England Patriots @ Buffalo Bills
BUF (115am ET) - PVD (235am ET), EAL3608, B763
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:42 pm

Week 14, Thursday Night

Steelers at Vikings, DL B763:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KPIT/KMSP
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:47 pm

More Week 14 Flights

49ers at Bengals, UA B772:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KSJC/KCVG

Not commonly seen, but apparently the Giants after playing the Dolphins last week, elected not to return to New York, but instead flew to Tuscon to practice, and will fly to LAX on Saturday, UAL B772:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KTUS/KLAX

Saints at Jets, UAL B772:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2541

Seahawks at Texans, DAL A333:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KSEA/KIAH

Bears at Packers, UAL B753:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2539

Looks like the Radisson Paper Valley Inn in Appleton, WI is getting back into the NFL biz. Haven't seen anyone else flying into ATW this year.
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:44 pm

 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:34 pm

Rest of week 14 Sunday games

Ravens at Browns, 5Y B744:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI ... /KBWI/KCLE

Raiders at Chiefs, HA A332:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/HAL ... /KLAS/KMCI

Cowboys at Washington FC, AA B772:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL ... /KDFW/KBWI
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Mon Dec 13, 2021 1:36 am

Looks like the Rams' flight is at least 4.5 hours late. Flight Aware doesn't have a current flight plan for AA9749, and FR24 shows it as a 8:10 pm dept (was supposed to be a 3:40 dept).

Teams are notorious for running on a strict schedule on roar games to keep as much routine as possible. Wonder how much this will affect them for tomorrow night's game.
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:04 am

LittleFokker wrote:
More Week 14 Flights

Bears at Packers, UAL B753:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2539

Looks like the Radisson Paper Valley Inn in Appleton, WI is getting back into the NFL biz. Haven't seen anyone else flying into ATW this year.


Yes, this is the first one back into ATW since the pandemic. Since no one could attend games last year, teams were able to get hotels in GRB. Also, the Paper Valley is no longer a Radisson and since became a Red Lion to which the quality diminished drastically. Rumor is that it was sold again and is either becoming a Hyatt or Hilton of some sort but either way it sounds like teams are starting to work there way back to staying ATW when they come to play the Pack.
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:42 pm

LittleFokker wrote:
Looks like the Rams' flight is at least 4.5 hours late. Flight Aware doesn't have a current flight plan for AA9749, and FR24 shows it as a 8:10 pm dept (was supposed to be a 3:40 dept).

Teams are notorious for running on a strict schedule on roar games to keep as much routine as possible. Wonder how much this will affect them for tomorrow night's game.


They did leave last night:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL ... /KLAX/KPHX

katwspotter wrote:

Yes, this is the first one back into ATW since the pandemic. Since no one could attend games last year, teams were able to get hotels in GRB. Also, the Paper Valley is no longer a Radisson and since became a Red Lion to which the quality diminished drastically. Rumor is that it was sold again and is either becoming a Hyatt or Hilton of some sort but either way it sounds like teams are starting to work there way back to staying ATW when they come to play the Pack.


Good info, thanks, was not aware of the ownership change.
 
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:54 am

Wednesday, December 15

Kansas City Chiefs @ Los Angeles Chargers
MCI (140pm CT) - LAX (3pm PT), UAL2543, B764
Thursday, December 16

Kansas City Chiefs @ Los Angeles Chargers
LAX (10pm PT) - MCI (255am CT), UAL2543, B764
Friday, December 17

Las Vegas Raiders @ Cleveland Browns
LAS (TBD) - CLE (TBD), HAL720, A332
New England Patriots @ Indianapolis Colts
PVD (230pm ET) - IND (440pm ET), EAL3609, B763
Saturday, December 18

Las Vegas Raiders @ Cleveland Browns
CLE (TBD) - LAS (TBD), HAL721, A332
New York Jets @ Miami Dolphins
EWR (1215pm ET) - FLL (325pm ET), UAL2534, B772
Carolina Panthers @ Buffalo Bills
CLT (1pm ET) - BUF (235pm ET), DAL8860, B763
Arizona Cardinals @ Detroit Lions
PHX (1130am MST) - DTW (505pm ET), GTI8058, B744
Dallas Cowboys @ New York Giants
DFW (2pm CT) - EWR (605pm ET), AAL9748, B772
Washington Football Team @ Philadelphia Eagles
IAD (1pm ET) - PHL (150pm ET), UAL2533, B764
Tennessee Titans @ Pittsburgh Steelers
BNA (145pm CT) - PIT (405pm ET), DAL8870, B763
Houston Texans @ Jacksonville Jaguars
IAH (1215pm CT) - JAX (310pm ET), UAL2536, B772
Cincinnati Bengals @ Denver Broncos
CVG (310pm ET) - DEN (415pm MT), DAL8861, B763
Atlanta Falcons @ San Francisco 49ers
ATL (2pm ET) - SJC (430pm PT), DAL8858, A333
Seattle Seahawks @ Los Angeles Rams
SEA (115pm PT) - LAX (350pm PT), DAL8868, B763
Green Bay Packers @ Baltimore Ravens
GRB (115pm CT) - BWI (410pm ET), DAL8863, B763
New Orleans Saints @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers
MSY (3pm CT) - TPA (530pm ET), UAL2541, B772

Sunday, December 19

New England Patriots @ Indianapolis Colts
IND (TBD) - PVD (TBD), EAL3609, B763
New York Jets @ Miami Dolphins
FLL (530pm ET) - EWR (820pm ET), UAL2534, B772
Carolina Panthers @ Buffalo Bills
BUF (6pm ET) - CLT (745pm ET), DAL8860, B763
Arizona Cardinals @ Detroit Lions
DTW (630pm ET) - PHX (835pm MST), GTI8059, B744
Dallas Cowboys @ New York Giants
EWR (6pm ET) - DFW (910pm CT), AAL9748, B772
Washington Football Team @ Philadelphia Eagles
PHL (TBD) - IAD (TBD), UAL2533, B764
Tennessee Titans @ Pittsburgh Steelers
PIT (6pm ET) - BNA (640pm CT), DAL8870, B763
Houston Texans @ Jacksonville Jaguars
JAX (530pm ET) - IAH (7pm CT), UAL2536, B772
Cincinnati Bengals @ Denver Broncos
DEN (735pm MT) - CVG (12am ET), DAL8861, B763
Seattle Seahawks @ Los Angeles Rams
LAX (625pm PT) - SEA (910pm PT), DAL8868, B763
Green Bay Packers @ Baltimore Ravens
BWI (925pm ET) - GRB (1025pm CT), DAL8863, B763
Minnesota Vikings @ Chicago Bears
MSP (230pm CT) - ORD (345pm CT), DAL8866, B763
Monday, December 20

Atlanta Falcons @ San Francisco 49ers
SJC (1245pm PT) - ATL (805pm ET), DAL8858, A333
New Orleans Saints @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers
TPA (1250am ET) - MSY (140am CT), UAL2541, B772
Tuesday, December 21

Minnesota Vikings @ Chicago Bears
ORD (1215am CT) - MSP (135am CT), DAL8866, B763
 
HAWKXP
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Tue Dec 21, 2021 3:43 am

What is the Fly/Bus limit? Iad-Bwi at about 45 miles would seem to be bus to game. How about Cin-Ind at about 100 miles? Many others under 200 miles. Anyone with info on this?
 
LittleFokker
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:16 pm

HAWKXP wrote:
What is the Fly/Bus limit? Iad-Bwi at about 45 miles would seem to be bus to game. How about Cin-Ind at about 100 miles? Many others under 200 miles. Anyone with info on this?


I don't think the league or the Collective Bargaining Agreement has any language regarding use of airplanes over buses. Best I can tell, it's team choice. This week, Washington is flying to PHL to play the Eagles, though I think the Eagles prefer to drive when going to Washington. Part of that is the fact that the Washington FC practice facility (where teams originate their travel) is only a few miles north of IAD, meaning flying is slightly more convenient than a 90-105 minute bus ride. I don't know what hotel visiting teams use before heading over to Landover, but I have seen examples of visiting teams flying into BWI to play Washington FC, leading me to think the hotel is on the Maryland side and potentially closer to Baltimore. The Eagles also prefer bus when going to play the Giants/Jets. Proximity/availability of hotels also influences the choice to drive or fly.
 
PHLspecial
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:52 am

LittleFokker wrote:
HAWKXP wrote:
What is the Fly/Bus limit? Iad-Bwi at about 45 miles would seem to be bus to game. How about Cin-Ind at about 100 miles? Many others under 200 miles. Anyone with info on this?


I don't think the league or the Collective Bargaining Agreement has any language regarding use of airplanes over buses. Best I can tell, it's team choice. This week, Washington is flying to PHL to play the Eagles, though I think the Eagles prefer to drive when going to Washington. Part of that is the fact that the Washington FC practice facility (where teams originate their travel) is only a few miles north of IAD, meaning flying is slightly more convenient than a 90-105 minute bus ride. I don't know what hotel visiting teams use before heading over to Landover, but I have seen examples of visiting teams flying into BWI to play Washington FC, leading me to think the hotel is on the Maryland side and potentially closer to Baltimore. The Eagles also prefer bus when going to play the Giants/Jets. Proximity/availability of hotels also influences the choice to drive or fly.

In the past the Eagles used Amtrak's Acela to go to DC.
 
LittleFokker
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:27 pm

Week 16 Flights:

49ers at Titans (Thursday night), UA B772:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KSJC/KBNA

Browns at Packers (Saturday night), UA B764:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KCLE/KGRB

Colts at Cardinals (Saturday night), DL B764:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KIND/KPHX
Plus bonus team personnell flight on a DL A319: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KIND/KPHX

Lions at Falcons (aka Delta Airlines commercial), DL B763:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KDTW/KATL

Ravens at Bengals, 5Y B744:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI ... /KBWI/KCVG

Rams at Vikings, AA B789:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9749

Bills at Patriots, DL B763:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KBUF/KPVD

Jaguars at Jets, 5Y B744:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI ... /KJAX/KEWR

Giants at Eagles - Likely driving

Buccaneers at Panthers, DL B763:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KTPA/KCLT

Chargers at Texans, DL B763:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KLGB/KIAH

Bears at Seahawks, UA B772:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KORD/KSEA

Steelers at Chiefs, DL B763:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KPIT/KMCI

Broncos at Raiders, UA B772:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KDEN/KLAS

Washington FC at Cowboys, UA B772:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KIAD/KDFW

Dolphins at Saints (Monday night), 5Y B744:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI8046
 
LittleFokker
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:01 pm

Week 18 Flights:

Saturday games

Chiefs at Broncos, UA B764:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KMCI/KDEN

Cowboys at Eagles, AA B789:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9748

Sunday Games

Patriots at Dolphins, Team B763:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/EAL ... /KPVD/KFLL
 
 
LittleFokker
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:00 pm

Playoffs, Wild Card Round

Raiders at Bengals, Saturday afternoon, HAL A332:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/HAL ... /KLAS/KCVG

Patriots at Bills, Saturday night, both team B763s in use:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/EAL ... /KPVD/KBUF
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/EAL ... /KPVD/KBUF

Eagles at Buccaneers, Sunday early afternoon, AA B789:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9745

49ers at Cowboys, Sunday late afternoon, UA B773:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KSJC/KDFW
 
debonair
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:17 am

FLALEFTY wrote:
The New England Patriots have a pair of B763's, one of which is leased to 2D (Eastern Airlines), the other carries the Patriots to games. Both are crewed & maintained by 2D. When the Pats are onboard, the pilots use the interesting ATC callsign "Underdog". I don't know if team owner, Bob Kraft has the Patriots' flights blocked on the tracking sites.

https://www.planespotters.net/airline/N ... d-Patriots


According to viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1468669 both B763 left EASTERN.
 
wjcandee
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:31 am

debonair wrote:
FLALEFTY wrote:
The New England Patriots have a pair of B763's, one of which is leased to 2D (Eastern Airlines), the other carries the Patriots to games. Both are crewed & maintained by 2D. When the Pats are onboard, the pilots use the interesting ATC callsign "Underdog". I don't know if team owner, Bob Kraft has the Patriots' flights blocked on the tracking sites.

https://www.planespotters.net/airline/N ... d-Patriots


According to viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1468669 both B763 left EASTERN.


Yeah, I think the actual rumor, and I haven't seen it actually confirmed anywhere, is that the two frames would be operated by Omni next season. Meanwhile, apparently Eastern will next season take over the operation of the Cardinals' new 777.
 
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TVNWZ
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:56 am

Here’s a good look at Air Kraft 1. Very interesting on what they did to the plane and how they operate..

https://youtu.be/4BPY-iZb7gE
 
LittleFokker
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Re: 2021 NFL Charters

Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:54 pm

NFL Playoffs, Divisional Round

Bengals at Titans, DL B763 for the short hop:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KCVG/KBNA

49ers at Packers, UA B772:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL ... /KSJC/KGRB

Rams at Buccaneers, AA B789:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9749

Bills at Chiefs, DL B763:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KBUF/KMCI

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