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n729pa
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Re: What Goods are Shipped by Air

Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:37 pm

If it will fit on a plane someone will want. We ship everything from touring rock bands to microchips. Luxury cars to contraceptives.
Bulky cheap stuff like furniture or clothing, machinery move but sea. Ultimately it's hown quickly you want it and how much you want to pay. Some contracts might have heavy penalties therefore airfreight is used to recover lost production time or other issues.
 
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AirKevin
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Re: What Goods are Shipped by Air

Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:28 pm

n729pa wrote:
If it will fit on a plane someone will want. We ship everything from touring rock bands to microchips.

Didn't know bands get packed into boxes to be shipped.
 
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Re: What Goods are Shipped by Air

Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:56 am

AirKevin wrote:
n729pa wrote:
If it will fit on a plane someone will want. We ship everything from touring rock bands to microchips.

Didn't know bands get packed into boxes to be shipped.

Only if the temperatures can be maintained at 68-74F. Anything different affects the singers vocal chords
 
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Re: What Goods are Shipped by Air

Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:19 am

I heard from a lady when she was working for Continental Cargo that they had a shipment of tarantulas (I believe). I've also heard of lobster and wine being shipped on WN, especially the stories where the respective contaoners broke and pax bags were soaked in wine and dampers had to hunt down the lobsters in the hold. Different flights of course. Also when I was a CSA for WN I had a lady with a medium size styrofoam cooler loaded with bags of breast milk with dry ice to keep cool.
 
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Re: What Goods are Shipped by Air

Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:38 am

n729pa wrote:
If it will fit on a plane someone will want. We ship everything from touring rock bands to microchips.


As well as rock bands, there are other sectors in the live entertainment industry that utilise air lifts.
I work extensively in the live entertainment industry, and one of my more memorable transfers was from Europe to the Middle-east.

By road the production would normally use 50+ trucks.
This particular transfer, the production utilised 4 chartered B747F flights (3 different aircraft, with the 1st returning to conduct the 4th flight).
The entire production was packed up onto aircraft pallets in the departing city’s arena, and trucked directly to the airport.
I was lucky enough to be on the 3rd flight as an attendant (the company asked for 2 volunteers per flight), assisting the loadmaster with loading, and was very privileged to be offered a cockpit jump seat for takeoff and landing.
 
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Re: What Goods are Shipped by Air

Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:28 am

The economics of belly cargo (used to) make for some interesting things going by air. I'm in Australia and at one point I was in a business importing solar panels. Thanks to the cheap belly rates, the premium to have those shipped by air in small amounts was not much more than going by sea, and a heck of a lot quicker. In the current climate though, that would not be the case.
 
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Re: What Goods are Shipped by Air

Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:39 pm

EBT wrote:
The economics of belly cargo (used to) make for some interesting things going by air. I'm in Australia and at one point I was in a business importing solar panels. Thanks to the cheap belly rates, the premium to have those shipped by air in small amounts was not much more than going by sea, and a heck of a lot quicker. In the current climate though, that would not be the case.


I don't know if it still happens, but there is a company out of MSP that ships pool noodles via air. I'm assuming they get a really good rate for just taking up space that would otherwise go empty because I cannot imagine it makes sense to pay normal rates.
 
mackdad
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Re: What Goods are Shipped by Air

Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:23 am

Another Item that nobody mentions is Cash. I have seen 4 LD3 cans filled with bricks of cash. Each brick was 100K and each LD3 can had over 100 bricks inside them. Being shipped from the Fed reserve bank. Armor car, police and bank officials making sure it got all loaded.
 
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Re: What Goods are Shipped by Air

Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:18 am

frmrCapCadet wrote:
Oddly enough, food shipped from halfway around the world has often been found to be more 'green' that produced locally. Take asparagus, it tends to be the same price for much of the season, $1.50-4.00, whether local or air shipped. This raises a question that I have long been seeking. When air shipping is efficiently done (think Amazon) what is the actual cost per pound per, say, 1000 miles? I am suspecting it is a lot lower than most of us think.


BA carries huge quantities of vegetables, for example mange tout, sugar snap peas and baby corn, on every flight from NBO to LHR.
On day one, in the morning the vegetables are picked on farms around Kenya. In the afternoon the vegetables are put into containers and delivered to NBO airport.
Overnight the vegetables are flown to LHR.
Early on day two the vegetables are off-loaded and taken directly to a large specialist handling centre on the eastern perimeter of Heathrow.
During the morning the vegetables are packed into individual punnets and labelled. At this point they are ready to be put onto supermarket shelves.
From late morning onwards they are collected from the processing centre by the supermarkets, and taken to the the supermarket's regional distribution centres.
From the distribution centres the vegetables are taken to individual supermarkets.
It is entirely possible for a consumer in the UK to eat vegetables one evening that were picked in Kenya the day before.
This cargo travels under the floor on passenger services that would operate anyway. That is, apart from the additional fuel to lift the additional weight, there is little effort in providing the capacity to carry the load. That is, as you suggest, this example of shipping by air is very efficient.
Agriculture has become a very important sector of the Kenyan economy, supporting thousands of jobs.
If UK consumers stopped buying vegetables from Kenya because of the air miles involved in getting them here, the Kenyan economy would suffer badly.
So, this is win win. UK consumers get good quality vegetables year round, and money flows from the UK into the Kenyan economy.
 
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Re: What Goods are Shipped by Air

Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:09 pm

Bealine - informative and interesting. In my imagined Online Airshipping Map clicking on Kenya would show those veggies going to LHR
 
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Re: What Goods are Shipped by Air

Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:28 pm

jetmatt777 wrote:
AirKevin wrote:
n729pa wrote:
If it will fit on a plane someone will want. We ship everything from touring rock bands to microchips.

Didn't know bands get packed into boxes to be shipped.

Only if the temperatures can be maintained at 68-74F. Anything different affects the singers vocal chords


....All except Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden - he gets to sit up front.
 
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Re: What Goods are Shipped by Air

Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:00 pm

nws2002 wrote:

I don't know if it still happens, but there is a company out of MSP that ships pool noodles via air. I'm assuming they get a really good rate for just taking up space that would otherwise go empty because I cannot imagine it makes sense to pay normal rates.


Also the weight plays an interesting factor since you usually pay by kg/lb. And really, how much can an LD7 of pool noodles weigh?

When I was involved in cargo we had a similar story as the vegetables to LHR. Lobsters get caught late at night/early in the morning, off to the processing facility to be packaged and wrapped onto skids, then on to the airport, built onto a pallet, and onto the aircraft. Off the flight the next morning in Europe, and broken down off the pallets onto trucks to a different distributors processing facility where they’re removed from the packaging, and then they go to various restaurants, where they get to go for one last swim before being dinner. Your Friday night fresh lobster dinner in Amsterdam, Paris, London, Frankfurt etc was happily living off the coast of New England Thursday morning, and then had a busy day to get to you
 
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Re: What Goods are Shipped by Air

Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:25 pm

In the past few months, I have loaded some aircraft that are doing cabin-load cargo flights. Mostly it is lightweight items that are put into the passenger cabin. I recall seeing auto parts/accessories, syringes, shoes, computers, bags of parcel post, cheap looking densely packed clothing, phone cases and accessories, home decor, and balikbayan boxes.
 
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Re: What Goods are Shipped by Air

Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:44 am

EBT wrote:
The economics of belly cargo (used to) make for some interesting things going by air. I'm in Australia and at one point I was in a business importing solar panels. Thanks to the cheap belly rates, the premium to have those shipped by air in small amounts was not much more than going by sea, and a heck of a lot quicker. In the current climate though, that would not be the case.


I work in a company that manufactures machine parts from alloy steel. They pack nicely onto standard Euro pallets (120x80x80cm) but the pallets are very heavy, like 700kgs ea. in some cases. Typically we ship full containers by sea, but sometimes things happen. Production delays, customer deadlines not flexible, etc etc.

Air freight for 10 pallets easily runs ~$25k from Europe or China to USA in pre-COVID times. Today, that's likely 1.5x higher. Half of the time, this would go by a cargo carrier in a 747 freighter. Sometimes it'll go as belly freight on a passenger 777 or A330, etc.

Interestingly, I've seen air freight vs. sea freight costs for 1 Euro pallet of a few hundred kgs frequently be more or less the same cost.

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