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This thread includes amongst other destinations...
- Eurowings Discover to Mauritius and Namibia
- Scoot to Singapore
- Vueling to Senegal and Gambia
- Easyjet to Turkey and Tunisia
- Transavia France to Algeria and Lebanon
- Eurowings to Tunisia
- Transavia NL to UAE and Eilat
- Ryanair to Jordan and Tbilisi
- Russian carriers to Central and Eastern Russia
- WizzAir to Egypt and Georgia
- flydubai
- SkyUp to Tanzania and Sri Lanka
- and more

Important: state rather unknown facts only by providing links to sources.

Scoot reactivated their route to Singapore. It's a one-stop flight from Berlin via Athens to SIN.
The intra-European leg Berlin-Athens can be booked!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aviati ... nburg/amp/

Btw TR is a low cost airline offering real business class intraeurope

Would Turkish Airlines name itself a low-cost airline?

airlinenavigato wrote:

Would Turkish Airlines name itself a low-cost airline?

Their cost base might be low but their service level certainly far exceeds many of the legacy carriers in Europe, Americas (both North and South included) and Asia.

Michael

eamondzhang wrote:

Their cost base might be low but their service level certainly far exceeds many of the legacy carriers in Europe, Americas (both North and South included) and Asia.

Michael

Agreed.

airlinenavigato wrote:

Scoot reactivated their route to Singapore. It's a one-stop flight from Berlin via Athens to SIN.

Fares start at 245€ to Singapore or back.

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The Dubai World Expo can be visited pretty affordably. As Wizz extended to fly to DXB from BUD, SOF and OTP.



with the Wizz Discount Club it should be 28€ return

Self-hubbing is an option and self-responsible (Ryanair flights are better not be booked currently on kiwi.com)

https://www.kiwi.com/ee/search/results/ ... port=false

The entry regulations of Dubai are:
https://u.ae/en/information-and-service ... to-the-uae

airlinenavigato wrote:

Would Turkish Airlines name itself a low-cost airline?

No, definitely not! Turkish Airlines is a full-service legacy airline, their fares are significantly higher than the low-cost airlines.

Pegasus Airlines is the low-cost airline in Turkey, connecting a lot of European to a lot of Asian and also some African destinations through their hub in Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen. Excluding self-transfers on Wizzair, Pegasus is often the cheapest between Europe and the Middle East. They also have a low-cost service level, charging extra for everything that is included by default on Turkish Airlines.

FlyPop coming soon! UK to near Asia

PatrickZ80 wrote:

airlinenavigato wrote:

Would Turkish Airlines name itself a low-cost airline?

No, definitely not! Turkish Airlines is a full-service legacy airline, their fares are significantly higher than the low-cost airlines.

Pegasus Airlines is the low-cost airline in Turkey, connecting a lot of European to a lot of Asian and also some African destinations through their hub in Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen. Excluding self-transfers on Wizzair, Pegasus is often the cheapest between Europe and the Middle East. They also have a low-cost service level, charging extra for everything that is included by default on Turkish Airlines.

When I went to Central Asia in 2019, most of the European people in my group flew back on Pegasus, ALA-SAW-XXX. They seem to do a great deal of Asia-Europe business.

Would BF ORY-RUN qualify for this? BF is one of the few successful long haul LCCs.

Jutlander wrote:

Would BF ORY-RUN qualify for this? BF is one of the few successful long haul LCCs.

And just a domestic flight too.

PatrickZ80 wrote:

airlinenavigato wrote:

Would Turkish Airlines name itself a low-cost airline?

No, definitely not! Turkish Airlines is a full-service legacy airline, their fares are significantly higher than the low-cost airlines.

However, it is dependent on how 'low cost' is being defined. An airline could have a much lower cost base than many 'legacy' carriers but not necessarily pass that benefit to the consumer (thus more profit). Others do pass that on to the consumer in the form of lower fares.high volume. They are just two different business models. There is no clear cut division of the term.....does low cost carrier mean low cost base, or low fares.....and it is largely opinion. Equally, although there is also no clear cut definition of what constitutes a 'legacy' carrier, it is referred to here on a.net as one which is established. Of course, by that definition and not considering an ego aspect, at which point in a timeframe does an airline become a 'legacy'?

Vicenza wrote:

Equally, although there is also no clear cut definition of what constitutes a 'legacy' carrier, it is referred to here on a.net as one which is established. Of course, by that definition and not considering an ego aspect, at which point in a timeframe does an airline become a 'legacy'?

There certainly is a clear definition of legacy in the U.S. - carriers which operated scheduled interstate passenger service before the effective date of the Airline Deregulation Act of 1978.

Some a.netters use legacy as a proxy for full-service. That is intellectually sloppy, and not particularly meaningful given on-board/interline service reductions by legacy carriers.

Jutlander wrote:

Would BF ORY-RUN qualify for this? BF is one of the few successful long haul LCCs.

I'd say yes

usflyer msp wrote:

PatrickZ80 wrote:

Pegasus Airlines is the low-cost airline in Turkey, connecting a lot of European to a lot of Asian and also some African destinations through their hub in Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen. Excluding self-transfers on Wizzair, Pegasus is often the cheapest between Europe and the Middle East. They also have a low-cost service level, charging extra for everything that is included by default on Turkish Airlines.

When I went to Central Asia in 2019, most of the European people in my group flew back on Pegasus, ALA-SAW-XXX. They seem to do a great deal of Asia-Europe business.

Yes, I had a look on some connections and Pegasus had nice prices one-stop intercontinental.

by738 wrote:

FlyPop coming soon! UK to near Asia

I look forward to that! They gonna have their home base in Stansted! So there is access from over 100 Ryanair destinations for self-hubbing to India!

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... -home-base

These are the destinations of Pegasus in Asia and Africa:



No Nur-Sultan, no Kutaisi, in Egypt only Hurghada and Sharm El Sheikh, in Pakistan only Karachi.

What do you think, could Pegasus become an A321XLR customer?

Are there some interesting routes outside the 6 hour range that Pegasus flies?



For example India. Is not doable from SAW. And not from ESB, because the Afghan airspace is in between.

Scoot currently fly both Berlin-Athens-Singapore and also Berlin-Singapore. After the end of March 2022, I can see fares for BER-SIN and ATH-SIN, but Scoot don't seem to show fares on BER-ATH. It looks like the route will be cancelled, but can anyone give more info ?

davidjohnson6 wrote:

Scoot currently fly both Berlin-Athens-Singapore and also Berlin-Singapore. After the end of March 2022, I can see fares for BER-SIN and ATH-SIN, but Scoot don't seem to show fares on BER-ATH. It looks like the route will be cancelled, but can anyone give more info ?

This was planned for some time already. Currently they serve Berlin as a tag-on from Athens because of the low demand. As time progresses, it's expected that demand will rise so they'll serve both cities individually like they did before COVID-19 broke loose. Athens - Berlin was always meant to be a temporary route.

I think Scoot added LGW-BKK-SIN from Dec 16th.