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departedflights
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What does "RC" mean in McDonnell Douglas aircraft types?

Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:47 pm

I have seen several photos that have "RC" included in the aircraft type.

For example, this DC-9-33RC:



Can someone please tell me what that means?

Thank you in advance.
 
JoseSalazar
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Re: What does "RC" mean in McDonnell Douglas aircraft types?

Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:54 pm

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_DC-9

DC-9-33: Following the Series 31 and 32 came the Series 33 for passenger/cargo or all-cargo use. Certificated on April 15, 1968, the aircraft's MTOW was 114,000 lb (52,000 kg), MLW to 102,000 lb (46,000 kg) and MZFW to 95,500 lb (43,300 kg). JT8D-9 or -11 (15,000 lbf (67 kN) thrust) engines were used. Wing incidence was increased 1.25 degrees to reduce cruise drag.[18] Only 22 were built, as All Freight (AF), Convertible Freight (CF) and Rapid Change (RC) aircraft
 
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Re: What does "RC" mean in McDonnell Douglas aircraft types?

Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:55 pm

JoseSalazar wrote:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_DC-9

DC-9-33: Following the Series 31 and 32 came the Series 33 for passenger/cargo or all-cargo use. Certificated on April 15, 1968, the aircraft's MTOW was 114,000 lb (52,000 kg), MLW to 102,000 lb (46,000 kg) and MZFW to 95,500 lb (43,300 kg). JT8D-9 or -11 (15,000 lbf (67 kN) thrust) engines were used. Wing incidence was increased 1.25 degrees to reduce cruise drag.[18] Only 22 were built, as All Freight (AF), Convertible Freight (CF) and Rapid Change (RC) aircraft


JoseSalazar... Thank you! I actually scanned that exact Wikipedia article looking for that information but did not see it.

I appreciate that!
 
YULACYYZ
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Re: What does "RC" mean in McDonnell Douglas aircraft types?

Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:03 pm

it's DC09-33 with cargo and passengers RC meaning Rapid Change .... the rapid configuration either cargo and or passengers

My guess!

....All Freight (AF), Convertible Freight (CF) and Rapid Change (RC) aircraft.....
 
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Re: What does "RC" mean in McDonnell Douglas aircraft types?

Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:25 pm

departedflights wrote:
I have seen several photos that have "RC" included in the aircraft type.

For example, this DC-9-33RC:



Can someone please tell me what that means?

Thank you in advance.


The DC9-30RC can be recognised by the large main deck cargo door on the front left of the aircraft.
If you look just forward of the capital M of Martinair and just underneath the N of Martin, you will see passenger windows are missing.
These are the forward and rear edge of the main cargo door.

Both Martinair and KLM operated DC9-30Rapid Change aircraft.
Seats were installed on pallets and could be moved in/out of the aircraft in just under an hour, so the aircraft offered a convertible Pax/All Cargo cabin for day/night operations.
If you walked through the cabin aisle, the seat pallets moved a little and you heard a clicking sound of the pallets moving on their rollers.
There were three rows of 5 seats on each pallet. These pallets raised the cabin floor a little, so the ceiling was closer over your head, than on regular DC9s.
The cargo door could be easily identified in the cabin and it was not unknown for the door to whistle, as air leaked on the pressurisation of the cabin.
The open luggage racks were foldable and collapsed downwards to allow for cargo pallets.

The convertibale pax/cargo operations were never a real success, so KLM converted the DC9-30RC to permanent Passenger Aircraft with seats fitted to the floor (not on pallets) and regular sized cabin handluggage bins.
The cargo doors were sealed with regular sidewall panels, which resulted in some seats without windows.

The DC9-30RC was heavier than regular DC9-30s, had less range and were less economic.


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Re: What does "RC" mean in McDonnell Douglas aircraft types?

Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:42 pm

YULACYYZ wrote:
it's DC09-33 with cargo and passengers RC meaning Rapid Change .... the rapid configuration either cargo and or passengers

My guess!

....All Freight (AF), Convertible Freight (CF) and Rapid Change (RC) aircraft.....

AF is Advanced Freighter
 
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Re: What does "RC" mean in McDonnell Douglas aircraft types?

Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:43 pm

departedflights wrote:
I have seen several photos that have "RC" included in the aircraft type.

For example, this DC-9-33RC:



Can someone please tell me what that means?

Thank you in advance.


Wiki also says that on the RC, the seats were put on pallets. The first airline I think of is Hughes Airwest. Both my possible -15RC images are right side only, (N9348, 9349) so I can't see the cargo door...Doug
 
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Re: What does "RC" mean in McDonnell Douglas aircraft types?

Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:15 am

deebee278 wrote:
Wiki also says that on the RC, the seats were put on pallets. The first airline I think of is Hughes Airwest. Both my possible -15RC images are right side only, (N9348, 9349) so I can't see the cargo door...Doug

Don't bother to look at the picture of N9348 again, it started it's carrier with Swissair and wasn't an RC. All other Hughes Airwest model -15's were the RC variant, all were second hands from Continental Air Lines.
 
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Re: What does "RC" mean in McDonnell Douglas aircraft types?

Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:41 pm

So, MDD wasn't ahead of the time by offering a drone variant of the DC-9? Thought RC meant "Remote Controlled" :duck:
 
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Re: What does "RC" mean in McDonnell Douglas aircraft types?

Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:31 pm

Looks like Douglas and Boeing used different terms to describe the same capability, QC v RC. Interestingly there was also an MC "Mixed Cargo" variant too.
 
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Re: What does "RC" mean in McDonnell Douglas aircraft types?

Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:33 pm

In this pic of a KLM -RC, you can see the outline of the cargo door (which you can't really see in that Martinair photo). You may have to enlarge the picture.
 
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Re: What does "RC" mean in McDonnell Douglas aircraft types?

Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:29 pm

The USAF, Navy and Marines in the past had a total of 48 C9A/B/C, the military versions of the DC9-32CF.
 
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Re: What does "RC" mean in McDonnell Douglas aircraft types?

Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:15 am

SELMER40 wrote:
The USAF, Navy and Marines in the past had a total of 48 C9A/B/C, the military versions of the DC9-32CF.


And 2 were delivered to the Kuwaiti Air Force, as C-9K models

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