jetmatt777 wrote:lightsaber wrote:Just to be clear, the FDA, EMA, NHA, and other health authorities know it as BNT162b2 vaccine.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... NTech.html
Please don't get hung up on a marketing name. Legally that is a Biontech vaccine anyway.jetmatt777 wrote:I work with some of these individuals. Stuck their chest out saying they weren’t going to get the shot, yet here they are today “yeah, I went and got it anyway”. So much drama. Why would you even call the company’s bluff on something that risks such a great job with excellent benefits.
I'm not surprised as many alternatives are not as good employment wise. In a seniority based system, I couldn't imagine walking away unless one was near the bottom of the list.
I know a 25-year guy who is pushing this as far as he can. He didn’t file for an exemption and didn’t get a shot.
I think they’ll probably give him the opportunity to change his mind before driving him to the parking lot. Not worth the risk. Total stupidity.
My interpretation of previous links is that UA will try to help people comply. The don't want to send people out the door.
However I and my extended family are curtailing flying due to coronavirus damage to myself (I have exploratory surgery Monday to access the damage beyond what ultrasound could find) and one cousin (possibly another) have damage too (I have tons of cousins, fwiw). Steps like this will allow us to return to normal.
Cardude2 wrote:FlyingElvii wrote:Polot wrote:There is a federal mandate (executive order) requiring federal employees to be vaccinated (by some point towards end of November). So far it is not been successfully challenged.
Now that there is a FDA approved vaccine UA employees would probably find it difficult to win their case- UA provided exemptions for health and religion.
There is no “approved” available yet, Comirnaty won’t be available for at least another year. The current one may be used under emergency authorization, in it’s place.
Got a lawyer buddy licking his chops about all of this, already has potential clients lined up. When the firings actually begin, is when the lawsuits start flying. Many Companies already backing down, or informing customers that they will not be able to deliver product on schedule.
He will probably continue licking his lips because that would risk his license to practice. I'm no lawyer but that's teeteringly close to a frivolous lawsuit.
Federal contractors, which UA and their employees are, must be vaccinated by December 8th.
https://www.shrm.org/ResourcesAndTools/ ... t=READ-MOR
I do not know the legalities (I am not a lawyer). There is a legal risk of UA having unvaccinated longer than the deadline. If someone sues, I'm sure it can be tied up past December 8th
I posted links earlier. So far courts have thrown out every case. Best case the lawyer looses weeks of time. Worst case reprimanded and as you note, risk the license to practice.
UA has no choice as a federal contractor. I posted upthread links on the vaccine approval, I'm not repeating a 3rd time, age 16+ can be mandated now.
e.g., San Diego has mandated vaccines for schools for everyone (including students). Students will be mandated as full approval by age happens. San Diego is educated conservative California too:
https://timesofsandiego.com/uncategoriz ... -students/
There is no legal reason not to allow mandates (by age, 16+ today).