United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q4 2021

Midwestindy · Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:34 pm

Not surprising network notes from earnings call from Andrew:

Almost 100% focused on hub-hub. What’s left in p2p was very successful so therefore it will remain.

About to return to 90 day schedule load process

Cmac787 · Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:33 pm

Right now there is a 737-900, A320 and a 757 in AMA for paint. 3418 only was there for 9 days. Nothing showing scheduled as of now

avi8 wrote:
Cmac787 wrote:
N497UA A320 is scheduled to exit AMA paint with Evo blue livery and ferry to DEN F2729/20 Oct

So I take it the 737-900ER that went in for paint yesterday replaced the A320? Or was there another 739 being painted?

I think I mixed those up haha.

adamblang · Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:43 pm

@ByERussell, quoting the earnings call:

United has one more "significant international network announcement" for 2022 later this month, says Nocella.

O23 · Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:49 pm

Does anyone have an update/timeline of when United plans to start refurbishing their cabins?

sldispatcher · Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:14 am

Midwestindy wrote:
Not surprising network notes from earnings call from Andrew:

Almost 100% focused on hub-hub. What’s left in p2p was very successful so therefore it will remain.

About to return to 90 day schedule load process

Glad that revenue forecasting and route planning is stable enough to give those departments a little breathing room.

atal17 · Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:06 am

Off-topic slightly, but is there any reason why UA has downgauged EWR-BOM/DEL to 789 from the 77W? Is this due to the PW4000 issues or the airspace closures or something else?

portola2727 · Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:24 am

atal17 wrote:
Off-topic slightly, but is there any reason why UA has downgauged EWR-BOM/DEL to 789 from the 77W? Is this due to the PW4000 issues or the airspace closures or something else?

Now is a slight low period in US-India bookings as October usually has fewer people traveling to India. The planes will get upgauged in November/December presumably when the Winter Holidays traffic picks up again. This is what I think but there might be some other factors in play.

portola2727 · Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:26 am

adamblang wrote:
@ByERussell, quoting the earnings call:

United has one more "significant international network announcement" for 2022 later this month, says Nocella.

Cue the speculations again

. Hopefully LAX gets something meaningful this time around :crossfingers:

.

atal17 · Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:00 am

portola2727 wrote:
atal17 wrote:
Off-topic slightly, but is there any reason why UA has downgauged EWR-BOM/DEL to 789 from the 77W? Is this due to the PW4000 issues or the airspace closures or something else?

Now is a slight low period in US-India bookings as October usually has fewer people traveling to India. The planes will get upgauged in November/December presumably when the Winter Holidays traffic picks up again. This is what I think but there might be some other factors in play.

That might be true for EWR-DEL (I may be wrong, but some cursory bookings shows the 77W scheduled for DEL), but BOM still shows the 789 at the moment.

Pinto · Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:41 am

atal17 wrote:
Off-topic slightly, but is there any reason why UA has downgauged EWR-BOM/DEL to 789 from the 77W? Is this due to the PW4000 issues or the airspace closures or something else?

As someone else said mostly due to the low in bookings. Also UA just did or is about to start using 5 77Ws for cargo only flights. These were probably were UA figured that they could have the least amount of operational impact. Given how long these stage lengths are those 5 frames might almost all come from EWR - DEL/BOM.

atal17 · Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:07 am

Pinto wrote:
atal17 wrote:
Off-topic slightly, but is there any reason why UA has downgauged EWR-BOM/DEL to 789 from the 77W? Is this due to the PW4000 issues or the airspace closures or something else?

As someone else said mostly due to the low in bookings. Also UA just did or is about to start using 5 77Ws for cargo only flights. These were probably were UA figured that they could have the least amount of operational impact. Given how long these stage lengths are those 5 frames might almost all come from EWR - DEL/BOM.

Interesting, I didn’t know that - thank you!

fun2fly · Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:17 am

portola2727 wrote:
adamblang wrote:
@ByERussell, quoting the earnings call:

United has one more "significant international network announcement" for 2022 later this month, says Nocella.

Cue the speculations again . Hopefully LAX gets something meaningful this time around .

Seems odd they will do this 2x in one month. Significant is a weighted word vs. "another announcement this month." Two theories: 1) waiting for government approval or a country to allow travelers officially that delayed a TATL destination or 2) it's a different region (not TATL) so they are differentiating the announcements. Most likely not TPAC due to low volumes. Perhaps Oceana or S. America?

atcsundevil · Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:53 am

O23 wrote:
Does anyone have an update/timeline of when United plans to start refurbishing their cabins?

I have merged your thread into the United Fleet thread, as your question is one of the primary purposes of this thread. There are several users here who should be able to answer your questions.

✈️ atcsundevil

adamblang · Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:16 pm

fun2fly wrote:
it's a different region (not TATL) so they are differentiating the announcements. Most likely not TPAC due to low volumes. Perhaps Oceana or S. America?

I think the smart money would be on Latin American / Caribbean expansion. It’s been one of the few bright spots in the COVID era and we haven’t heard a peep about network development there for a while.

jetblastdubai · Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:58 pm

adamblang wrote:
fun2fly wrote:
it's a different region (not TATL) so they are differentiating the announcements. Most likely not TPAC due to low volumes. Perhaps Oceana or S. America?

I think the smart money would be on Latin American / Caribbean expansion. It’s been one of the few bright spots in the COVID era and we haven’t heard a peep about network development there for a while.

Throwing out the conspiracy theory...maybe the "UA exec meeting" in TPA last month that was mentioned here has something to do with possibly new Latin/Caribbean service?

CALMSP · Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:01 pm

jetblastdubai wrote:
adamblang wrote:
fun2fly wrote:
it's a different region (not TATL) so they are differentiating the announcements. Most likely not TPAC due to low volumes. Perhaps Oceana or S. America?

I think the smart money would be on Latin American / Caribbean expansion. It’s been one of the few bright spots in the COVID era and we haven’t heard a peep about network development there for a while.

Throwing out the conspiracy theory...maybe the "UA exec meeting" in TPA last month that was mentioned here has something to do with possibly new Latin/Caribbean service?

nah, a sales VP meeting her team for probably the first time in person.

portola2727 · Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:52 pm

adamblang wrote:
fun2fly wrote:
it's a different region (not TATL) so they are differentiating the announcements. Most likely not TPAC due to low volumes. Perhaps Oceana or S. America?

I think the smart money would be on Latin American / Caribbean expansion. It’s been one of the few bright spots in the COVID era and we haven’t heard a peep about network development there for a while.

Who knows man, for all intents and purposes it might be TATL v2 to connect UA's remaining hubs to JV hubs overseas. It also could be a Latin America expansion where the obvious contenders would be LAX and IAH. We'll have to wait and see

. Thing that works against S.America/Latin America/Caribbean is the fact that UA doesn't have a hub like MIA that works really really well for Latin America/Caribbean.

avi8 · Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:13 pm

UA already expanded massively to Latin America. I don't really know what else they could add. They've already announced weekly ORD-GUA flights as well for December.

Maybe a token destination to the Caribbean from a new hub or something like that.

LAXdude1023 · Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:27 pm

avi8 wrote:
UA already expanded massively to Latin America. I don't really know what else they could add. They've already announced weekly ORD-GUA flights as well for December.

Maybe a token destination to the Caribbean from a new hub or something like that.

There are destinations like MDE, GYE, CLO, CTG, etc.

avi8 · Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:37 pm

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LAXdude1023 wrote:
avi8 wrote:
UA already expanded massively to Latin America. I don't really know what else they could add. They've already announced weekly ORD-GUA flights as well for December.

Maybe a token destination to the Caribbean from a new hub or something like that.

There are destinations like MDE, GYE, CLO, CTG, etc.

You are 100% right.

CALMSP · Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:39 pm

portola2727 wrote:
adamblang wrote:
fun2fly wrote:
it's a different region (not TATL) so they are differentiating the announcements. Most likely not TPAC due to low volumes. Perhaps Oceana or S. America?

I think the smart money would be on Latin American / Caribbean expansion. It’s been one of the few bright spots in the COVID era and we haven’t heard a peep about network development there for a while.

Who knows man, for all intents and purposes it might be TATL v2 to connect UA's remaining hubs to JV hubs overseas. It also could be a Latin America expansion where the obvious contenders would be LAX and IAH. We'll have to wait and see . Thing that works against S.America/Latin America/Caribbean is the fact that UA doesn't have a hub like MIA that works really really well for Latin America/Caribbean.

IAH doesn't work well for Latin America??

Pi7472000 · Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:49 pm

CALMSP wrote:
portola2727 wrote:
adamblang wrote:
I think the smart money would be on Latin American / Caribbean expansion. It’s been one of the few bright spots in the COVID era and we haven’t heard a peep about network development there for a while.

Who knows man, for all intents and purposes it might be TATL v2 to connect UA's remaining hubs to JV hubs overseas. It also could be a Latin America expansion where the obvious contenders would be LAX and IAH. We'll have to wait and see . Thing that works against S.America/Latin America/Caribbean is the fact that UA doesn't have a hub like MIA that works really really well for Latin America/Caribbean.

IAH doesn't work well for Latin America??

For United it is all they have access too. However it is not Miami or even ATL when it comes to Latin America. It is out of the way for many travelers.

CALMSP · Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:53 pm

Pi7472000 wrote:
CALMSP wrote:
portola2727 wrote:
Who knows man, for all intents and purposes it might be TATL v2 to connect UA's remaining hubs to JV hubs overseas. It also could be a Latin America expansion where the obvious contenders would be LAX and IAH. We'll have to wait and see . Thing that works against S.America/Latin America/Caribbean is the fact that UA doesn't have a hub like MIA that works really really well for Latin America/Caribbean.

IAH doesn't work well for Latin America??

For United it is all they have access too. However it is not Miami or even ATL when it comes to Latin America. It is out of the way for many travelers.

thats just a.net nonsense. So MIA/ATL is better than IAH for everyone living west of the Mississippi? Even east of the Mississippi, IAH works well. People are not buying their tickets solely based on a website love for MIA/ATL as the only Latin America gateways.

LAXdude1023 · Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:03 pm

Pi7472000 wrote:
CALMSP wrote:
portola2727 wrote:
Who knows man, for all intents and purposes it might be TATL v2 to connect UA's remaining hubs to JV hubs overseas. It also could be a Latin America expansion where the obvious contenders would be LAX and IAH. We'll have to wait and see . Thing that works against S.America/Latin America/Caribbean is the fact that UA doesn't have a hub like MIA that works really really well for Latin America/Caribbean.

IAH doesn't work well for Latin America??

For United it is all they have access too. However it is not Miami or even ATL when it comes to Latin America. It is out of the way for many travelers.

That’s rubbish. If that were the case, they wouldn’t cancel Latin American flights from other hubs to put there.

You’re also leaving out the huge factor of O&D which IAH has way more of to central and South America than does ATL.

MIA is the end all be all for Latin America. IAH is about the next best thing for a Latin hub because of the combo of O&D and location. The exceptions are the Caribbean and Brazil where ATL is better located to capture that. Even though ATL is better situated to capture Brazil traffic, they can’t support GIG but IAH does.

Colombia is 6 one way half a dozen the other geographically.

Coalways · Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:29 pm

Pi7472000 wrote:
CALMSP wrote:
portola2727 wrote:
Who knows man, for all intents and purposes it might be TATL v2 to connect UA's remaining hubs to JV hubs overseas. It also could be a Latin America expansion where the obvious contenders would be LAX and IAH. We'll have to wait and see . Thing that works against S.America/Latin America/Caribbean is the fact that UA doesn't have a hub like MIA that works really really well for Latin America/Caribbean.

IAH doesn't work well for Latin America??

For United it is all they have access too. However it is not Miami or even ATL when it comes to Latin America. It is out of the way for many travelers.

This is to funny to me. ATL more of a Latin America hub then IAH LOL

fun2fly · Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:45 pm

So, if I'm reading this right, the UA management team announced that the 14 x Polaris 767's that don't have PE (76A) will be retrofitted with the product. Any thoughts on seats and timeline? It's a good move by UA to have PE on all flights.

Even more exciting the 321XLR will also get the product.

jetmatt777 · Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:05 am

Network issues?

I have noticed a few flights are cancelled or delayed with the reason being “an issue with our computer systems”.

Scarebus34 · Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:20 am

jetmatt777 wrote:
Network issues?

I have noticed a few flights are cancelled or delayed with the reason being “an issue with our computer systems”.

SkyWest has an ongoing IT issue. Currently no SkyWest flights are airborne across the entire country.

jetmatt777 · Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:23 am

Scarebus34 wrote:
jetmatt777 wrote:
Network issues?

I have noticed a few flights are cancelled or delayed with the reason being “an issue with our computer systems”.

SkyWest has an ongoing IT issue. Only 2 SkyWest flights in the air.

Thanks. Glad I bought a ticket on WN, I was going to gamble on non rev on one of the flights that ended up canceled.

Of course WN is delayed as well. Just happy to go home!

Scarebus34 · Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:26 am

jetmatt777 wrote:
Scarebus34 wrote:
jetmatt777 wrote:
Network issues?

I have noticed a few flights are cancelled or delayed with the reason being “an issue with our computer systems”.

SkyWest has an ongoing IT issue. Only 2 SkyWest flights in the air.

Thanks. Glad I bought a ticket on WN, I was going to gamble on non rev on one of the flights that ended up canceled.

Of course WN is delayed as well. Just happy to go home!

Yep - this issue has been ongoing 4+ hours and is across their entire network (DL/AA/UA/AS) - messy for sure.

Cmac787 · Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:06 am

N837UA A319 is scheduled to exit ROW storage and ferry to BFM MX F2717/22Oct. This is in the old configuration. Both old configurations are now in BFM
N69059 767-400 is scheduled to enter HKG MX

ChaseP · Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:05 am

Maintenance Update:
N17122 (757-200) is scheduled to ferry from ILN to DEN (UA2761/22) after heavy MX.

Storage Update:
N657UA (767-300) is scheduled to ferry from EWR to ORD (UA2745/22). Aircraft will undergo pre-storage MX before heading off to GYR.

airplanedriver6 · Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:28 pm

ChaseP wrote:
Storage Update:
N657UA (767-300) is scheduled to ferry from EWR to ORD (UA2745/22). Aircraft will undergo pre-storage MX before heading off to GYR.

FWIW, that's been one of few, if not the only, "diamond" 763 actively flying. Glad to see it will hang out in GYR until it gets the Polaris mod.

fun2fly · Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:32 pm

airplanedriver6 wrote:
ChaseP wrote:
Storage Update:
N657UA (767-300) is scheduled to ferry from EWR to ORD (UA2745/22). Aircraft will undergo pre-storage MX before heading off to GYR.

FWIW, that's been one of few, if not the only, "diamond" 763 actively flying. Glad to see it will hang out in GYR until it gets the Polaris mod.

What's weird is that UA still has the diamond 763's in the schedule for next summer on routes like EWR/IAD>BCN, EWR>MAD, EWR>BER, etc. They actually have more flights scheduled than they have diamond units left. When will they switch this over to the 763 Polaris?

Seems like most 764's are going to IAD to allow for EWR to be all Polaris. Can anyone confirm?

codc10 · Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:57 pm

fun2fly wrote:
airplanedriver6 wrote:
ChaseP wrote:
Storage Update:
N657UA (767-300) is scheduled to ferry from EWR to ORD (UA2745/22). Aircraft will undergo pre-storage MX before heading off to GYR.

FWIW, that's been one of few, if not the only, "diamond" 763 actively flying. Glad to see it will hang out in GYR until it gets the Polaris mod.

What's weird is that UA still has the diamond 763's in the schedule for next summer on routes like EWR/IAD>BCN, EWR>MAD, EWR>BER, etc. They actually have more flights scheduled than they have diamond units left. When will they switch this over to the 763 Polaris?

Seems like most 764's are going to IAD to allow for EWR to be all Polaris. Can anyone confirm?

Until a Polaris aircraft (76A) is assigned, the "default" 763 seatmap (for both 76A/76C flights) is the old configuration (76C) with Diamond business class seats. If a 763 market is selling Premium Plus, the expectation is it will operate with the 46J 76L unless late swapped.

Now that there won't be any 76C in active service and presumably they won't come back for the winter, after which they'll have Polaris, I wonder if UA will finally update the schedules to reflect a Polaris (76A) seatmap.

Once the configuration is approved, I would expect the Premium Plus mod for the 76A to move pretty quickly, and perhaps can be done in-house. There are no monuments like galleys or lavs to move around, and so the process shouldn't be a lot more complicated than taking out/repitching a few rows of Y seats, adding a few bulkheads, and installing the PE seats.

x1234 · Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:30 pm

I heard a rumor that the new route announcement is SFO-MNL or SFO-BKK with MNL before BKK. Tagalog is the 3rd most foreign language spoken in the USA after Spanish and Mandarin/Cantonese.

LAXdude1023 · Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:40 pm

x1234 wrote:
I heard a rumor that the new route announcement is SFO-MNL or SFO-BKK with MNL before BKK. Tagalog is the 3rd most foreign language spoken in the USA after Spanish and Mandarin/Cantonese.

I would be surprised if that were the case. Traffic to Asia is still off a cliff.

codc10 · Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:41 pm

x1234 wrote:
I heard a rumor that the new route announcement is SFO-MNL or SFO-BKK with MNL before BKK. Tagalog is the 3rd most foreign language spoken in the USA after Spanish and Mandarin/Cantonese.

Of course. No UA route announcement would be complete without "rumors" and "leaks" about SFO-BKK... I am not holding my breath.

Scarebus34 · Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:06 pm

codc10 wrote:
x1234 wrote:
I heard a rumor that the new route announcement is SFO-MNL or SFO-BKK with MNL before BKK. Tagalog is the 3rd most foreign language spoken in the USA after Spanish and Mandarin/Cantonese.

Of course. No UA route announcement would be complete without "rumors" and "leaks" about SFO-BKK... I am not holding my breath.

Came here to say the same. Although if the Philippines and Thailand are going to allow American visitors, it might be worth a shot. Highly doubt it, however.

codc10 · Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:20 pm

Longhaul leisure has been compelling during the pandemic, since premium demand in that sector has recovered well ahead of business, and the 787 is a great platform for it. But rising fuel prices are tough to overcome.

CALMSP · Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:28 pm

codc10 wrote:
Longhaul leisure has been compelling during the pandemic, since premium demand in that sector has recovered well ahead of business, and the 787 is a great platform for it. But rising fuel prices are tough to overcome.

unless UA is going to codeshare with PAL, MNL offers no leisure.............I was actually shocked how filthy it was.......and the only place in the world where I didn't feel 100% comfortable walking around.

SRT75 · Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:45 pm

portola2727 wrote:
adamblang wrote:
fun2fly wrote:
it's a different region (not TATL) so they are differentiating the announcements. Most likely not TPAC due to low volumes. Perhaps Oceana or S. America?

I think the smart money would be on Latin American / Caribbean expansion. It’s been one of the few bright spots in the COVID era and we haven’t heard a peep about network development there for a while.

Who knows man, for all intents and purposes it might be TATL v2 to connect UA's remaining hubs to JV hubs overseas. It also could be a Latin America expansion where the obvious contenders would be LAX and IAH. We'll have to wait and see . Thing that works against S.America/Latin America/Caribbean is the fact that UA doesn't have a hub like MIA that works really really well for Latin America/Caribbean.

Umm . . . . IAH!?!?

portola2727 · Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:58 pm

SRT75 wrote:
portola2727 wrote:
adamblang wrote:
I think the smart money would be on Latin American / Caribbean expansion. It’s been one of the few bright spots in the COVID era and we haven’t heard a peep about network development there for a while.

Who knows man, for all intents and purposes it might be TATL v2 to connect UA's remaining hubs to JV hubs overseas. It also could be a Latin America expansion where the obvious contenders would be LAX and IAH. We'll have to wait and see . Thing that works against S.America/Latin America/Caribbean is the fact that UA doesn't have a hub like MIA that works really really well for Latin America/Caribbean.

Umm . . . . IAH!?!?

IAH is good for S.America/Latin America but Caribbean is a bit lacking. This is what I mean when I say that UA doesn't have a dedicated hub that covers all 3.

jbs2886 · Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:00 pm

portola2727 wrote:
SRT75 wrote:
portola2727 wrote:
Who knows man, for all intents and purposes it might be TATL v2 to connect UA's remaining hubs to JV hubs overseas. It also could be a Latin America expansion where the obvious contenders would be LAX and IAH. We'll have to wait and see . Thing that works against S.America/Latin America/Caribbean is the fact that UA doesn't have a hub like MIA that works really really well for Latin America/Caribbean.

Umm . . . . IAH!?!?

IAH is good for S.America/Latin America but Caribbean is a bit lacking. This is what I mean when I say that UA doesn't have a dedicated hub that covers all 3.

IAH is not positioned well for Caribbean; IAD is the closest.

Tyroneguy · Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:39 pm

portola2727 wrote:
SRT75 wrote:
portola2727 wrote:
Who knows man, for all intents and purposes it might be TATL v2 to connect UA's remaining hubs to JV hubs overseas. It also could be a Latin America expansion where the obvious contenders would be LAX and IAH. We'll have to wait and see . Thing that works against S.America/Latin America/Caribbean is the fact that UA doesn't have a hub like MIA that works really really well for Latin America/Caribbean.

Umm . . . . IAH!?!?

IAH is good for S.America/Latin America but Caribbean is a bit lacking. This is what I mean when I say that UA doesn't have a dedicated hub that covers all 3.

United covers the Caribbean from IAD, EWR, ORD and a few offerings from IAH and DEN. Sure, we can beat that dead horse of them not having a SE hub, but the US is more than just the SE and UA's portfolio is still growing.

LAXdude1023 · Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:41 pm

portola2727 wrote:
SRT75 wrote:
portola2727 wrote:
Who knows man, for all intents and purposes it might be TATL v2 to connect UA's remaining hubs to JV hubs overseas. It also could be a Latin America expansion where the obvious contenders would be LAX and IAH. We'll have to wait and see . Thing that works against S.America/Latin America/Caribbean is the fact that UA doesn't have a hub like MIA that works really really well for Latin America/Caribbean.

Umm . . . . IAH!?!?

IAH is good for S.America/Latin America but Caribbean is a bit lacking. This is what I mean when I say that UA doesn't have a dedicated hub that covers all 3.

The Caribbean is somewhat unique because demand is so heavily skewed towards the East Coast. If a hub isnt on the East Coast, it cant work as a Caribbean hub.

So much of the Caribbean demand is ethnic. Outside SJU and Cuba (which still overwhelmingly favor the Northeast and Florida) and outliers like IAH-POS which are business oriented, there isnt much west of the Mississippi.

adamblang · Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:04 pm

This Simple Flying article mostly rehashes things we already know but I thought this nugget was interesting.

Andrew Nocella, Chief Commercial Officer, on whether United's new transatlantic flights will hurt its Star partners:

in many of these city pairs, United, and our Star Alliance partners had very low share. The traffic between the United States and those markets are carried by other alliances, not ours. That’s why these markets are great.

Cmac787 · Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:12 pm

N76065 767-400 is scheduled to exit HKG MX and ferry HKG-NRT-ORD 24Oct F2779.

portola2727 · Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:54 pm

I think the next UAL route announcement will also be leisure based or be JV hub to hub announcement like LAX-FRA or LAX-MUC.

sand26391 · Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:57 pm

codc10 wrote:
x1234 wrote:
I heard a rumor that the new route announcement is SFO-MNL or SFO-BKK with MNL before BKK. Tagalog is the 3rd most foreign language spoken in the USA after Spanish and Mandarin/Cantonese.

Of course. No UA route announcement would be complete without "rumors" and "leaks" about SFO-BKK... I am not holding my breath.

Also I keep hearing EWR-BLR/MAA/HYD quiet often.

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