United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q4 2021

Cardude2 · Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:11 pm

LAXintl wrote:
CommutAir refreshing E145 interiors

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FF8S1SWXMAM ... me=360x360

I thought they were slowly being retired due to the weight issue

intotheair · Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:49 am

I wasn't necessarily expecting much from them. The Fly to the Finish and Breakout Bonus offers were pretty generous in terms of getting more PQP. I think there was also a promo earlier this year to try to encourage people to fly for the first time in a while or something, because I got a 150 PQP bonus in March. I guess I'm not necessarily surprised they didn't universally extend status like DL given those conditions.

Though altogether, I have one more trip this year and I will have gone from a GM to Gold :shock:

UPlog · Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:00 am

Regardless of any promotions, I suspect United saw they still had a sizable contingent of elites - especially corporate types that have not flown at all and did not want to risk losing/alienate them.

For example, have a 1K family member who flew last in March 2020. With ongoing work from home, and corporate travel freeze there simply is no need to travel. Previously they racked up well over 100,000 miles with $30-40,000 annual spend. Probably not a customer United wants to shut a door on.

CALTECH · Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:30 am

Did not look to see if reported yet, but 854, a 757-300 is in AMA getting full paint including wings. Evo-Blue, saw the paint drawing and it looks good on the 757-300.
0012 is also getting paint in AMA, Evo-Blue.
Except for the special liveries, they all will be Evo-Blue....

dc10lover · Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:35 am

Are the crj 550's successful?

jetmatt777 · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:26 am

dc10lover wrote:
Are the crj 550's successful?

They keep converting every 700 they can get their hands on that isn’t flying 70 seat missions for OO, so I would say, yes.

kngkyle · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:22 am

I hope United does something to reward/acknowledge the people that actually earned status in 2021... at least put those who earned status above the extended status flyers in the upgrade priority. I went out of my way multiple times this year to make sure I'd meet the requirements after they didn't extend when AA/DL did.

I'm also getting concerned about the number of people with status if these extensions keep happening.... if everyone has status then nobody has status.

dmstorm22 · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:49 am

cosyr wrote:
LAXdude1023 wrote:
Scarebus34 wrote:

It's not a rumor - it has been done.

Thats good news. Has there been a press release?

I'm sure there won't be a press release, because they aren't doing it for everyone. I have not had my status extended, which is frustrating, as I will end a level lower this year, because I kept having trips canceled.

Yeah, if anything this is making me even more annoyed at UA.

I was a 1K from 2017-2019 who is barely scraping back to Platinum in 2021 for 2022 including a little pointless mileage run the week of Christmas to get it.

I really hope the fact I was able to get to Platinum doing almost exclusively personal travel (earlier 1K was 90% work related) is not being held against me here.

I'm glad to get back to Platinum but will definitely be annoyed if there are 1Ks who did way less flying (not that I blame anyone there) that are now getting their status extended again.

In the end, I'll just be grateful the plus points got extended to midyear.

adamblang · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:34 pm

Some CommutAir ERJ-145 press photos from PR Newswire:

MIflyer12 · Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:50 pm

jetmatt777 wrote:
dc10lover wrote:
Are the crj 550's successful?

They keep converting every 700 they can get their hands on that isn’t flying 70 seat missions for OO, so I would say, yes.

How much of that is scope-driven?

CALMSP · Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:55 pm

kngkyle wrote:
I hope United does something to reward/acknowledge the people that actually earned status in 2021... at least put those who earned status above the extended status flyers in the upgrade priority. I went out of my way multiple times this year to make sure I'd meet the requirements after they didn't extend when AA/DL did.

I'm also getting concerned about the number of people with status if these extensions keep happening.... if everyone has status then nobody has status.

agreed. For those that actually did fly, why would they stick around and keep dishing out money when UA rewards those that didn't fly.

and yes, way too many elites and club members, think its time to up the requirements again.

airplanedriver6 · Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:08 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
jetmatt777 wrote:
dc10lover wrote:
Are the crj 550's successful?

They keep converting every 700 they can get their hands on that isn’t flying 70 seat missions for OO, so I would say, yes.

How much of that is scope-driven?

It's absolutely scope related, but UA is also on a BIG push with "United Next" to offer F cabins in as many markets as possible.

Under current scope UA can fly as many 50-seat jets as it wants so if was not about the onboard product UA could be using 50-seat CRJs and ERJs in those markets.

Benni228 · Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:22 pm

I have mixed feelings on the status extension. On the one hand, I’m a 1K that did receive an extension so thank you very much, I’m grateful for another year of status. On the other hand, I should requalify anyway once fly to the finish credits to my account.

Like others have said, the annoying part is that I’ve gone out of my way to fly UA and sometimes to take an indirect UA flight in order to make sure I did hit my status with the promotions. Also, assuming my PlusPoints would be expiring at the end of the year, I burned them on short hops that I wouldn’t have otherwise used them on. I certainly didn’t care much for domestic F on my IAH-PHX flight last week, but I would have loved to have put them towards Polaris on my IAH-LHR flights in February!

InnsbruckFlyer · Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:33 pm

adamblang wrote:
Some CommutAir ERJ-145 press photos from PR Newswire:

Kinda surprised to see that they didn't re-upholster the seats to match the rest of the UA/UAX cabins. Still though, an improvement over the old cabins.

cosyr · Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:46 pm

InnsbruckFlyer wrote:
adamblang wrote:
Some CommutAir ERJ-145 press photos from PR Newswire:

Kinda surprised to see that they didn't re-upholster the seats to match the rest of the UA/UAX cabins. Still though, an improvement over the old cabins.

I did notice seats were omitted from the description of the upgrades. All parts are really necessary, but the seats need some love. Mostly the rubber parts on the armrests and new tray tables all around. There are very few planes that I have ever noticed quite so much rubbing type wear all around.

It's a shame, because the E145's are some of my favorite planes to fly. I hope these upgrades mean they have at least another 10 years with UA.

Cmac787 · Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:07 pm

N27266 737 MAX8 is scheduled to enter SEA induction today F2702. Should be the last delivery this year.

redrooster3 · Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:40 pm

N16183 is sporting the new interiors after being in MCN for 3 months. You can visually see from the outside of the airplane the difference in the lighting as far as the cabin and exterior lights specifically the logo lights. The plane also had a fresh paint job and actually looked quite good, the sidewalls are the same exact thing you see in the mainline airplanes (787/777/737MAX/767s.)

itripreport · Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:20 pm

jetmatt777 wrote:
dc10lover wrote:
Are the crj 550's successful?

They keep converting every 700 they can get their hands on that isn’t flying 70 seat missions for OO, so I would say, yes.

Apparently from what a pilot told me, the 550s are also restricted to the weight limitations of a 200, which does cause a major issue on certain routes

Any ideas when we'll finally see the first retrofitted United Next aircraft?

ericm2031 · Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:19 pm

Interesting they aren’t including PDE on the refurbed 145s, as that was the plan pre-COVID. Some of the OO CRJs have it, so maybe it’ll be rolled out after more testing. They haven’t really said much about it, but it’s out there on planes

VirginFlyer · Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:29 pm

Something I’ve been wondering, with the weight limits impacting the total number of pax which can be carried on the ERJ 145 (and CRJ-200 as well was it?), would there be any benefit of doing a CRJ-550 lite on these types? Obviously nothing as major as the 550, but more a simple configuration tweak of some Economy Plus seating or even a couple of First seats? I’d suspect there wouldn’t be enough space for the other 550 features like the snack bar and the carry-on stowage.

If they’re already limited to less than 50 pax, having some premium seating could allow yields to be raised in markets which are clearly in the 50 seat category and couldn’t absorb the full premium capacity of the 550. I’m not sure if it’s practical or not, but wanted to throw it out there for the United experts to chew on.

V/F

Cmac787 · Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:42 pm

Paint update:
N36247 737-800 has exited AMA paint with Evo blue livery F2743
N828UA A319 has entered AMA paint for Evo blue livery F2742

cosyr · Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:08 am

VirginFlyer wrote:
Something I’ve been wondering, with the weight limits impacting the total number of pax which can be carried on the ERJ 145 (and CRJ-200 as well was it?), would there be any benefit of doing a CRJ-550 lite on these types? Obviously nothing as major as the 550, but more a simple configuration tweak of some Economy Plus seating or even a couple of First seats? I’d suspect there wouldn’t be enough space for the other 550 features like the snack bar and the carry-on stowage.

If they’re already limited to less than 50 pax, having some premium seating could allow yields to be raised in markets which are clearly in the 50 seat category and couldn’t absorb the full premium capacity of the 550. I’m not sure if it’s practical or not, but wanted to throw it out there for the United experts to chew on.

V/F

As much as I love a first class upgrade, I hope they don't mess with the configuration on the E145's. It is my favorite plane, and the E175 would be, if it weren't for all the misaligned windows. For the short duration of the flights these planes fly, the legroom is fine, and the view can't be beat. I've even flown an E145 from DEN-CLE, pretty long flight, and found it more than comfortable enough. (Even got served a meal on it! I miss CO)

LAXdude1023 · Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:44 am

cosyr wrote:
VirginFlyer wrote:
Something I’ve been wondering, with the weight limits impacting the total number of pax which can be carried on the ERJ 145 (and CRJ-200 as well was it?), would there be any benefit of doing a CRJ-550 lite on these types? Obviously nothing as major as the 550, but more a simple configuration tweak of some Economy Plus seating or even a couple of First seats? I’d suspect there wouldn’t be enough space for the other 550 features like the snack bar and the carry-on stowage.

If they’re already limited to less than 50 pax, having some premium seating could allow yields to be raised in markets which are clearly in the 50 seat category and couldn’t absorb the full premium capacity of the 550. I’m not sure if it’s practical or not, but wanted to throw it out there for the United experts to chew on.

V/F

As much as I love a first class upgrade, I hope they don't mess with the configuration on the E145's. It is my favorite plane, and the E175 would be, if it weren't for all the misaligned windows. For the short duration of the flights these planes fly, the legroom is fine, and the view can't be beat. I've even flown an E145 from DEN-CLE, pretty long flight, and found it more than comfortable enough. (Even got served a meal on it! I miss CO)

I have no beef with the ERJ-145. I’m happy to fly it. The CRJ-200 on the other hand sucks.

Cmac787 · Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:47 pm

N26952 787-9 is scheduled to enter XMN for Polaris f2736/10 Dec
N27964 787-9 is scheduled to exit XMN with Polaris F2741/11 Dec
N27971 787-9 is scheduled to exit XMN with Polaris F2737/11 Dec
N27966 787-9 is scheduled to enter XMN for Polaris F2740/11 Dec

dmstorm22 · Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:18 pm

cosyr wrote:
VirginFlyer wrote:
Something I’ve been wondering, with the weight limits impacting the total number of pax which can be carried on the ERJ 145 (and CRJ-200 as well was it?), would there be any benefit of doing a CRJ-550 lite on these types? Obviously nothing as major as the 550, but more a simple configuration tweak of some Economy Plus seating or even a couple of First seats? I’d suspect there wouldn’t be enough space for the other 550 features like the snack bar and the carry-on stowage.

If they’re already limited to less than 50 pax, having some premium seating could allow yields to be raised in markets which are clearly in the 50 seat category and couldn’t absorb the full premium capacity of the 550. I’m not sure if it’s practical or not, but wanted to throw it out there for the United experts to chew on.

V/F

As much as I love a first class upgrade, I hope they don't mess with the configuration on the E145's. It is my favorite plane, and the E175 would be, if it weren't for all the misaligned windows. For the short duration of the flights these planes fly, the legroom is fine, and the view can't be beat. I've even flown an E145 from DEN-CLE, pretty long flight, and found it more than comfortable enough. (Even got served a meal on it! I miss CO)

I don't know if I would call it my favorite but you are 100% correct on the fact the views can't be beat from it. You never feel a better sense of 'Man, I'm flying through air' then when on a E145.

For some maybe it's unnerving but for me it was a blast every time.

United787 · Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:49 pm

dmstorm22 wrote:
You never feel a better sense of 'Man, I'm flying through air' then when on a E145.

For some maybe it's unnerving but for me it was a blast every time.

OMG that is so true but I get that on the CRJs also. It is both unnerving and exciting at the same time. Thrilling you might say.

adamblang · Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:10 am

The Archer Maker eVTOLS United has signed up to buy have received their experimental airworthiness certificate and is being prepped for test flights.

An avionics suite has been selected for the 19-seat Heart ES-19 electric aircraft United is the launch customer for. Heart has also signed Aernnova for fuselage and wing design work. Aernnova includes Airbus, Beechcraft, Boeing, Bombardier, Embraer, and Pilatus among their customers.

Discussions are underway to set up manufacturing at Greensboro, NC's airport for the Boom Overture SSTs United and others have letters of intent for.

na · Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:23 pm

keesje wrote:
United's A320, 757, and 767 are getting pretty old, on average.

(type, number, age)

- Airbus A320 96 22.9 years
- Boeing 757 72 23 years
- Boeing 767 54 23.8 years

While 777s and A319 fleets aren't getting any younger either

- Airbus A319 66 19.5 years
- Boeing 777 95 17.8 years (incl young 77W's)

https://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/Uni ... rlines.htm

It seems United has 370 A321NEO/XLR/ 737-10s on order to replace 61 757's so a general significant upsizing of their NB fleet seems in the cards. With the 120 A321NEOs probably replacing many 767s. Not optimal at all for Uniteds network, but little choice in absense of an NMA. Only 8 787s left on order (787-10s). Something is gonna be ordered / pulled forward there I think.

Grandpas fleet. US majors traditionally have the oldest widebody fleets worldwide (odd secondhand operators not counted, and Germanys charter airline Condor).

airplanedriver6 · Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:43 pm

na wrote:
keesje wrote:
United's A320, 757, and 767 are getting pretty old, on average.

(type, number, age)

- Airbus A320 96 22.9 years
- Boeing 757 72 23 years
- Boeing 767 54 23.8 years

While 777s and A319 fleets aren't getting any younger either

- Airbus A319 66 19.5 years
- Boeing 777 95 17.8 years (incl young 77W's)

https://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/Uni ... rlines.htm

It seems United has 370 A321NEO/XLR/ 737-10s on order to replace 61 757's so a general significant upsizing of their NB fleet seems in the cards. With the 120 A321NEOs probably replacing many 767s. Not optimal at all for Uniteds network, but little choice in absense of an NMA. Only 8 787s left on order (787-10s). Something is gonna be ordered / pulled forward there I think.

Grandpas fleet. US majors traditionally have the oldest widebody fleets worldwide (odd secondhand operators not counted, and Germanys charter airline Condor).

Meh. It goes in fleet lifecycles, so no, not traditionally.

Go back 20 years and UA’s widebody fleet was new 747-400s and 777s with young 767s. We are currently witnessing the next fleet cycle with a bunch of 787s on property and about 500 new mainline aircraft being delivered in the next five years.

What the US legacies don’t do is lease new aircraft for three years and then replace. So it would be just as silly to say in 2027 that UA typically has a young fleet.

calpsafltskeds · Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:41 am

763 Polaris:
N661UA sked to exit HKG 2788/12Dec with High Polaris/PP.

gwrudolph · Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:17 am

airplanedriver6 wrote:
na wrote:
keesje wrote:
United's A320, 757, and 767 are getting pretty old, on average.

(type, number, age)

- Airbus A320 96 22.9 years
- Boeing 757 72 23 years
- Boeing 767 54 23.8 years

While 777s and A319 fleets aren't getting any younger either

- Airbus A319 66 19.5 years
- Boeing 777 95 17.8 years (incl young 77W's)

https://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/Uni ... rlines.htm

It seems United has 370 A321NEO/XLR/ 737-10s on order to replace 61 757's so a general significant upsizing of their NB fleet seems in the cards. With the 120 A321NEOs probably replacing many 767s. Not optimal at all for Uniteds network, but little choice in absense of an NMA. Only 8 787s left on order (787-10s). Something is gonna be ordered / pulled forward there I think.

Grandpas fleet. US majors traditionally have the oldest widebody fleets worldwide (odd secondhand operators not counted, and Germanys charter airline Condor).

Meh. It goes in fleet lifecycles, so no, not traditionally.

Go back 20 years and UA’s widebody fleet was new 747-400s and 777s with young 767s. We are currently witnessing the next fleet cycle with a bunch of 787s on property and about 500 new mainline aircraft being delivered in the next five years.

What the US legacies don’t do is lease new aircraft for three years and then replace. So it would be just as silly to say in 2027 that UA typically has a young fleet.

I agree. U.S. carriers order in large replacement batches. When you look at a specific point in time, the fleet is often either much younger or much older depending on where they are in the cycle. Besides, from a customer perspective, the perception of aircraft age is all about the age of the interior fittings and paint job. They know nothing about the actual aircraft age, engine technology, carbonfiber fuselages, and cockpit technology in their perception of the aircraft age.

fun2fly · Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:39 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
763 Polaris:
N661UA sked to exit HKG 2788/12Dec with High Polaris/PP.

Good deal. Been there a long time. I don't see 657 or 658 headed that way yet.

Any news on the PP for the low J 763's? Just an easy mod or will this require a STC and a much longer process?

Opus99 · Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:24 pm

There’s a 78X on its way back from NRT after having gone XMN. Does anyone know what it went there for?

Pinto · Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:29 pm

Opus99 wrote:
There’s a 78X on its way back from NRT after having gone XMN. Does anyone know what it went there for?

Probably in there for maintenance and depending on where it is headed in the states it might need a fuel stop. That or UA sold cargo space on it to make some extra money.

Opus99 · Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:32 pm

Pinto wrote:
Opus99 wrote:
There’s a 78X on its way back from NRT after having gone XMN. Does anyone know what it went there for?

Probably in there for maintenance and depending on where it is headed in the states it might need a fuel stop. That or UA sold cargo space on it to make some extra money.

Heading to ORD

Aliqiout · Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:03 pm

na wrote:
keesje wrote:
United's A320, 757, and 767 are getting pretty old, on average.

(type, number, age)

- Airbus A320 96 22.9 years
- Boeing 757 72 23 years
- Boeing 767 54 23.8 years

While 777s and A319 fleets aren't getting any younger either

- Airbus A319 66 19.5 years
- Boeing 777 95 17.8 years (incl young 77W's)

https://www.airfleets.net/ageflotte/Uni ... rlines.htm

It seems United has 370 A321NEO/XLR/ 737-10s on order to replace 61 757's so a general significant upsizing of their NB fleet seems in the cards. With the 120 A321NEOs probably replacing many 767s. Not optimal at all for Uniteds network, but little choice in absense of an NMA. Only 8 787s left on order (787-10s). Something is gonna be ordered / pulled forward there I think.

Grandpas fleet. US majors traditionally have the oldest widebody fleets worldwide (odd secondhand operators not counted, and Germanys charter airline Condor).

I don't think I would call Condor a "charter airline". At one point that's all they did, but they have a very robust scheduled operation now, complete with traditional interline agreements and frequent flyer partnerships.

Cmac787 · Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:20 pm

N29907 787-8 has been stuck in Accra since the 9th of December. Down for MX.

adamblang · Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:52 pm

Whenever United teases new route announcements, Ecuador always pops up as an A.net hypothetical favorite and then gets swatted down in subsequent comments because the U.S.-Ecuador bilateral is full.

The U.S. and Ecuador have reached agreement on open skies.

STT757 · Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:22 pm

adamblang wrote:
Whenever United teases new route announcements, Ecuador always pops up as an A.net hypothetical favorite and then gets swatted down in subsequent comments because the U.S.-Ecuador bilateral is full.

The U.S. and Ecuador have reached agreement on open skies.

Continental previously flew nonstop from IAH and EWR to GYE, and EWR-UIO via BOG.

airplanedriver6 · Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:31 pm

Opus99 wrote:
There’s a 78X on its way back from NRT after having gone XMN. Does anyone know what it went there for?

Likely a crew change. Under current covid restrictions it's not uncommon for airlines to attempt to avoid layovers.

Thus, a single crew can bring one aircraft into the MX station and then immediately fly another out from a staging point like NRT.

TrafficCop · Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:07 pm

airplanedriver6 wrote:
Opus99 wrote:
There’s a 78X on its way back from NRT after having gone XMN. Does anyone know what it went there for?

Likely a crew change. Under current covid restrictions it's not uncommon for airlines to attempt to avoid layovers.

Thus, a single crew can bring one aircraft into the MX station and then immediately fly another out from a staging point like NRT.

It's a cargo flight and then re-positions to EWR line for flight 90 to TLV tonight.

FlyGuy27 · Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:56 pm

Another underwhelming experience in F on one of the ex-CO 737s. UA has been surprisingly quiet on the 737 refurbs. They are needed.

Scarebus34 · Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:04 pm

FlyGuy27 wrote:
Another underwhelming experience in F on one of the ex-CO 737s. UA has been surprisingly quiet on the 737 refurbs. They are needed.

You must have missed the United Next announcement - it's going to take time to refurb, can't happen overnight.

codc10 · Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:17 pm

Scarebus34 wrote:
FlyGuy27 wrote:
Another underwhelming experience in F on one of the ex-CO 737s. UA has been surprisingly quiet on the 737 refurbs. They are needed.

You must have missed the United Next announcement - it's going to take time to refurb, can't happen overnight.

No word on when the retrofit program is due to begin, though…

FlyHossD · Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:02 pm

Scarebus34 wrote:
FlyGuy27 wrote:
Another underwhelming experience in F on one of the ex-CO 737s. UA has been surprisingly quiet on the 737 refurbs. They are needed.

You must have missed the United Next announcement - it's going to take time to refurb, can't happen overnight.

Are F seats on the newer 737s - like the 8Max and 9Max - any different than the older 737NGs? Further, is there a difference between the older and newer NGs?

I recently had a 2 hour flight in a UAL 737NG and was comfortable in F. However, I was a bit disappointed in the offerings.

adamblang · Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:54 pm

Some of the NGs are this:

Some of the NGs and all of the MAXes are this:

FlyGuy27 · Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:51 pm

I believe it’s as follows:

Some of the NGs: old CO F seats
Many of the NGs: new, UA F seats (no PTVs)
Max 9: new, UA F seats (no PTVs)
Max 8: new, UA F seats (with PTVs)

My complaint focuses on the ex-CO seats, and to a lesser extent, the non-PTV seats, which I believe aligns with most folks on here.

Scarebus, I did see the announcement, but to echo codc10, no word on when those refurbs will actually begin, which is disappointing.

itripreport · Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:12 pm

FlyGuy27 wrote:
I believe it’s as follows:

Some of the NGs: old CO F seats
Many of the NGs: new, UA F seats (no PTVs)
Max 9: new, UA F seats (no PTVs)
Max 8: new, UA F seats (with PTVs)

My complaint focuses on the ex-CO seats, and to a lesser extent, the non-PTV seats, which I believe aligns with most folks on here.

Scarebus, I did see the announcement, but to echo codc10, no word on when those refurbs will actually begin, which is disappointing.

Slight correction here
All NGs aside from the 700s have the old CO seats (some have a newer version of said seat), and some "all post 2013, and a few ex Copa NGs don't feature DTV"
As for the 700s, all feature the new UA F seats, with a few not featuring DTV.
But yes all 800s and 900s have the old CO seats.

Cmac787 · Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:37 am

N75854 757-300 is scheduled to exit AMA paint with Evo blue livery and ferry to ORD F2754/13Dec

drerx7 · Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:11 am

Lets be real here...does any u.s. carrier have a different/good domestic F hard product? Besides the transcontinental configurations at B6 and AA? I'm not overly concerned about F upgrades on any of those.

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