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LAXintl wrote:New research has uncovered more details about risk of Covid-19 transmission on planes including a sharp increase in the possible spread during in-flight meal service and the importance of precautions during boarding and deplaning.
Also no surprise newer variants have changed the risk equation compared to earlier studies during a pandemic.
WSJ story
What Science Knows Now About the Risk of Covid-19 Transmission on Planes
https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-tran ... 1632857439
UPlog wrote:CDC urges unvaccinated travelers to delay domestic trips until they are fully vaccinated.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/n ... 002497001/
UPlog wrote:CDC urges unvaccinated travelers to delay domestic trips until they are fully vaccinated.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/n ... 002497001/
Cardude2 wrote:American Airlines, JetBlue, and Alaska Airlines are all joining United Airlines in firing everybody who is unvaccinated as soon as December 8 with no option for testing.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... es-jetblue
American Airlines would be technically going against their union for this as the union has requested for testing to be an option.
cpd wrote:Cardude2 wrote:American Airlines, JetBlue, and Alaska Airlines are all joining United Airlines in firing everybody who is unvaccinated as soon as December 8 with no option for testing.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... es-jetblue
American Airlines would be technically going against their union for this as the union has requested for testing to be an option.
I just briefly saw another topic (now removed) on the Delta boss reckoning they have to make accommodations for those employees not vaccinated rather than threatening loss of employment.
Okay, I can see the issue you’d have with recruiting enough people fast enough to cover those lost jobs then training them up (we have that problem too), but my organisation even for those not in front line jobs had mandated vaccination and if we don’t have it by a particular date you are in a tricky situation. They are tracking who has first or first and second vaccination.
An airline would probably have no choice.
Feel free to delete this reply if you want.
cpd wrote:Cardude2 wrote:American Airlines, JetBlue, and Alaska Airlines are all joining United Airlines in firing everybody who is unvaccinated as soon as December 8 with no option for testing.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... es-jetblue
American Airlines would be technically going against their union for this as the union has requested for testing to be an option.
I just briefly saw another topic (now removed) on the Delta boss reckoning they have to make accommodations for those employees not vaccinated rather than threatening loss of employment.
Okay, I can see the issue you’d have with recruiting enough people fast enough to cover those lost jobs then training them up (we have that problem too), but my organisation even for those not in front line jobs had mandated vaccination and if we don’t have it by a particular date you are in a tricky situation. They are tracking who has first or first and second vaccination.
An airline would probably have no choice.
Feel free to delete this reply if you want.
Effective on November 30, 2021, international flights carrying passengers will be permitted to land at the following additional Canadian airports:
St. John's International
John C. Munro Hamilton International
Region of Waterloo International
Regina International
Saskatoon John G. Diefenbaker International
Kelowna International
Abbotsford International
Victoria International
janders wrote:I saw the UK will ban flights from South Africa, Namibia, Zimbabwe, Botswana, Lesotho due to virulant new mutation.
Anyone arriving from these countries starting Sunday will have to quarantine in a hotel.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-59424269
baje427 wrote:I suppose its only a matter of time before international travel is shutdown again.
jfklganyc wrote:If travel bans worked well, it would have never left China or Italy or Europe or New York or…
jfklganyc wrote:If travel bans worked well, it would have never left China or Italy or Europe or New York or…
LNCS0930 wrote:jfklganyc wrote:If travel bans worked well, it would have never left China or Italy or Europe or New York or…
It had already spread everywhere by then. It could very well be the same this time
NolaMD88fan wrote:A new variant was bound to happen as viruses constantly evolve. The difference between when the Gamma and Delta variants were detected and now is that over 50% of the world population is vaccinated and there are therapeutics available that curb the effects if you do become infected. With effective treatments available, hopefully governments will start realizing this virus is not going anywhere and to treat it as an endemic disease (i.e. no travel bans, lockdowns, etc.) sooner rather than later.
factsonly wrote:On Friday Nov. 26, the Netherlands Health Authorities forced a COVID test on all passengers arriving from South Africa on two KLM flights; 1x B77W from CPT and 1x B77W from JNB.
Passengers were isolated from all other arriving passengers and were given an option, (1) rapid PCR test or (2) a 7 day hotel isolation.
Of the 600 arriving passengers a total of 61 tested positive for COVID = 10%.
All 61 passengers have been placed in isolation hotels.
https://nltimes.nl/2021/11/27/61-600-pa ... oronavirus
KLM will continue to operate to JNB & CPT, as only the citizens of 6x Southern Africa nations are banned from entering the EU, while EU citizens can travel freely to/from Southern Africa.