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777
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PIlatus PC-12 crashes near Milan Linate after take off - no survivors

Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:37 pm

Just read this on the main Italian newspaper… looks like an horrific crash with no survivors.

The aircraft (YR-PDV) supposed to fly LIN-OLB crashed shortly after take off on an under-construction building.

All onboard (2 pilots + 6 pax including a child) are reported dead.

FR24 captured the flight path:

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... v#295f5ded

News here (in Italian):

https://milano.corriere.it/notizie/cron ... 6849.shtml

According to this article (in Italian) the passengers were French.

https://milano.repubblica.it/cronaca/20 ... 8-P1-S1-T1
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Re: PIlatus PC-12 crashes near Milan Linate after take off - no survivors

Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:36 pm

That doesn't look good but it could have been worse. Crashed into an empty office building that was being renovated, a fire appears to have broken out in the building. Luckily there was nobody in the building but that doesn't make it any better for the people on board.
 
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Re: PIlatus PC-12 crashes near Milan Linate after take off - no survivors

Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:46 pm

According to some witnesses, their engine was on fire.

May all who perished in the crash rest in peace. :tombstone:
 
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Re: PIlatus PC-12 crashes near Milan Linate after take off - no survivors

Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:54 pm

PatrickZ80 wrote:
That doesn't look good but it could have been worse. Crashed into an empty office building that was being renovated, a fire appears to have broken out in the building. Luckily there was nobody in the building but that doesn't make it any better for the people on board.

Definitely! The area surrounding LIN is heavily urbanized with a few exceptions like the area where they crashed.
 
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Re: PIlatus PC-12 crashes near Milan Linate after take off - no survivors

Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:41 pm

Is that 270° turn shown on FR24 a normal departure route from LIN for small aircraft? The flight data looks pretty consistent almost until the end.
 
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Re: PIlatus PC-12 crashes near Milan Linate after take off - no survivors

Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:34 pm

According to this newspaper (in Italian), the Romanian billionaire Dan Petrescu was flying his own aircraft. His wife and son were onboard together with some friends.

https://milano.corriere.it/notizie/cron ... 6849.shtml
 
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Re: PIlatus PC-12 crashes near Milan Linate after take off - no survivors

Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:45 pm

vfw614 wrote:
Is that 270° turn shown on FR24 a normal departure route from LIN for small aircraft? The flight data looks pretty consistent almost until the end.

They call it the impossible turn for a reason.
 
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Re: PIlatus PC-12 crashes near Milan Linate after take off - no survivors

Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:03 pm

Dan Petrescu as in the former Chelsea footballer ?
 
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Re: PIlatus PC-12 crashes near Milan Linate after take off - no survivors

Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:08 pm

TC957 wrote:
Dan Petrescu as in the former Chelsea footballer ?


no not the same. The pilot was 68 years old and the football player is 53.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Petrescu

https://www.italy24news.com/News/amp/208997

Eight people died in the plane crash in San Donato Milanese, in the crash of the Pilatus Pc-12 departing from Linate airport towards Olbia (Sardinia) and crashed into a building between via Marignano and via 8 Ottobre 2001. At the controls of the plane there ‘was Romanian commander Dan Petrescu, 68 years old, owner of the aircraft (bought in 2015 by Petrescu together with Vova Cohn, former shareholder of the football club Dinamo Bucharest).
 
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Re: PIlatus PC-12 crashes near Milan Linate after take off - no survivors

Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:49 pm

vfw614 wrote:
Is that 270° turn shown on FR24 a normal departure route from LIN for small aircraft? The flight data looks pretty consistent almost until the end.


There is a number of standard departures from RW36 which would be consistent for the initial turn to the south. The desired route to LIEO would be south, I am not sure why they started to head west.

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They call it the impossible turn for a reason.


PC-12 has a fantastic engine out glide profile, it can easily do a 180 degree turn after takeoff and land on the reciprocal runway for about 1200 ft. In this case they look as if they were up around 5000 ft, they had options from a glide point of view. The suspected engine fire may have changed their options.
 
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Re: PIlatus PC-12 crashes near Milan Linate after take off - no survivors

Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:21 pm

If you look at the FR24 track and speed/alt. readout, there is a increase in alt. with a sudden speed decay. That's followed by the sudden turn in combination with an increase in speed and drop in alt. Almost like a stall, roll, and nose drop.
 
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Re: PIlatus PC-12 crashes near Milan Linate after take off - no survivors

Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:11 am

News outlet in the country are speaking about possible spatial disorientation. Cloud base was low, with light drizzle.
 
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Re: PIlatus PC-12 crashes near Milan Linate after take off - no survivors

Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:02 pm

oldannyboy wrote:
News outlet in the country are speaking about possible spatial disorientation. Cloud base was low, with light drizzle.


This seems more plausible than the “witness reported seeing an engine fire” theory. Almost all eye witness knew seem to claim engine fie, which rarely ends up being the case
 
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Re: PIlatus PC-12 crashes near Milan Linate after take off - no survivors

Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:44 pm

The video of the aircraft impacting the ground is really scaring…. It went down almost vertically!

Link in Italian

https://milano.corriere.it/notizie/cron ... 1f2d.shtml
 
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Re: PIlatus PC-12 crashes near Milan Linate after take off - no survivors

Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:42 pm

777 wrote:
The video of the aircraft impacting the ground is really scaring…. It went down almost vertically!

Link in Italian

https://milano.corriere.it/notizie/cron ... 1f2d.shtml


Wow, that is pretty horrific. I guess at that point you know your time is up. Sad.

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