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Mesa Air to get in drone delivery business

Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:21 am

Mesa Air Group says it is planning to test home delivery of food and beverages via drones in Nevada.

The regional airline is teaming up with Nevada based drone maker Flirtey to offer food deliveries to less densely populated parts of Reno.
The drones can carry up to 8 pounds the equivalent of four large pizzas. Mesa will initially operate 4, with options for 500 more and expansion to other markets.

Flirtey delivery drones were first flown in 2015 have been approved by the FAA and utilized by companies such as Amazon.


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https://www.wsj.com/articles/mesa-air-m ... 091?page=1

...let see how this goes :duck:
 
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Re: Mesa Air to get in drone delivery business

Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:28 am

You have to give credit to Mesa for at least always looking for opportunities outside of the box.

Cargo 737’s
United’s electric regional sky taxi.
Mokulele
This…

You can’t fault them for dipping their toes in potential work outside of the traditional regional model.
 
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Re: Mesa Air to get in drone delivery business

Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:34 am

Interesting, I figured that the first use for drones would be shuttling blood/meds between hospitals. Fixed locations out of the way of LAS.

Not being funny, I wonder how long it will be before one is shot down, the Florida man gene is strong in certain parts of the Vegas valley.
 
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Re: Mesa Air to get in drone delivery business

Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:07 am

I keep checking the date and wondering why it's not saying that it's April 1st. I can't fault successful companies for branching out and innovating, but the problem is that Mesa isn't what I'd call a successful company. I still can't believe they survived bankruptcy, and I'll never understand how JO has hung on for all these years. This is either some sort of strange PR stunt, or they're really risking losing sight of what they're actually in business to do.
 
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Re: Mesa Air to get in drone delivery business

Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:28 am

JO is finally getting rid of those pesky workers he has to employ and pay I guess.
 
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Re: Mesa Air to get in drone delivery business

Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:29 am

atcsundevil wrote:
I keep checking the date and wondering why it's not saying that it's April 1st. I can't fault successful companies for branching out and innovating, but the problem is that Mesa isn't what I'd call a successful company. I still can't believe they survived bankruptcy, and I'll never understand how JO has hung on for all these years. This is either some sort of strange PR stunt, or they're really risking losing sight of what they're actually in business to do.


This. This exactly.

Sometimes I wonder if we will see Mesa evolve into a completely different type of company over time. They keep throwing ideas at the wall. Eventually something might stick and work out for them. At that point why be a bottom feeder CRJ operator? Maybe change is what’s best for them. They’re not exactly a shining star at what they do right now anyway.
 
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Re: Mesa Air to get in drone delivery business

Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:35 am

Quite scaring from a certain point of view: drone deliverying something without any human controlor or supervision.

I think this photo is just marketing, I would not feel really safe to see something flying with a cable and a load attached to it around a city.

When something goes wrong and the cable will breakup releasing the load on the head of someone, I wonder who will be charged with a legal action: the drone?
 
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Re: Mesa Air to get in drone delivery business

Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:27 pm

kabq737 wrote:
This. This exactly.

Sometimes I wonder if we will see Mesa evolve into a completely different type of company over time. They keep throwing ideas at the wall. Eventually something might stick and work out for them. At that point why be a bottom feeder CRJ operator? Maybe change is what’s best for them. They’re not exactly a shining star at what they do right now anyway.

Yeah. I mean, they've had some pretty harebrained ideas over the years (and by "they", I mean JO), but this is absolutely right up there. At least most of their ideas still involve being in the business of flying. Kunming was weird and stupid, but I still see where they were going with it. Same thing with Go! or buying the Spacejet. Even flying cargo is a little crazy, because I don't see how they can make it work long term, but it's still in relatively in their wheelhouse. Drone delivery is taking them in an entirely different direction. They make their pilots buy their iPads, and now they want to be a tech company?? I'm very much failing to see how this is a logical progression for a company that doesn't even operate under its own branding.
 
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Re: Mesa Air to get in drone delivery business

Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:16 pm

atcsundevil wrote:
kabq737 wrote:
This. This exactly.

Sometimes I wonder if we will see Mesa evolve into a completely different type of company over time. They keep throwing ideas at the wall. Eventually something might stick and work out for them. At that point why be a bottom feeder CRJ operator? Maybe change is what’s best for them. They’re not exactly a shining star at what they do right now anyway.

Yeah. I mean, they've had some pretty harebrained ideas over the years (and by "they", I mean JO), but this is absolutely right up there. At least most of their ideas still involve being in the business of flying. Kunming was weird and stupid, but I still see where they were going with it. Same thing with Go! or buying the Spacejet. Even flying cargo is a little crazy, because I don't see how they can make it work long term, but it's still in relatively in their wheelhouse. Drone delivery is taking them in an entirely different direction. They make their pilots buy their iPads, and now they want to be a tech company?? I'm very much failing to see how this is a logical progression for a company that doesn't even operate under its own branding.

Im struggling to see mesa's angle here who wants to make drones to sell to them instead of selling them to the big players who already have last mile operations
 
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Re: Mesa Air to get in drone delivery business

Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:25 pm

jetmatt777 wrote:
You can’t fault them for dipping their toes in potential work outside of the traditional regional model.


I can; I'd expect them to devote resources to improving their regional operation (you know, the one that keeps the lights on) before chasing after the next cockamamie idea. It'd be one thing if they ran an operation as good as OO (in normal times).
 
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Re: Mesa Air to get in drone delivery business

Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:40 pm

ScottB wrote:
jetmatt777 wrote:
You can’t fault them for dipping their toes in potential work outside of the traditional regional model.


I can; I'd expect them to devote resources to improving their regional operation (you know, the one that keeps the lights on) before chasing after the next cockamamie idea. It'd be one thing if they ran an operation as good as OO (in normal times).


How many resources are being devoted into this?

I dislike Mesa for many reasons but this is not one of them.
 
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Re: Mesa Air to get in drone delivery business

Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:42 pm

jetmatt777 wrote:
ScottB wrote:
jetmatt777 wrote:
You can’t fault them for dipping their toes in potential work outside of the traditional regional model.


I can; I'd expect them to devote resources to improving their regional operation (you know, the one that keeps the lights on) before chasing after the next cockamamie idea. It'd be one thing if they ran an operation as good as OO (in normal times).


How many resources are being devoted into this?

I dislike Mesa for many reasons but this is not one of them.

Mesa keeps trying these stupid schemes and they keep blowing up on them
 
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Re: Mesa Air to get in drone delivery business

Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:56 pm

jetmatt777 wrote:
How many resources are being devoted into this?

I dislike Mesa for many reasons but this is not one of them.


I get that you don't necessarily solve a problem by throwing more bodies at it. But people call this airline Messy for a reason. If they're devoting resources to all number of harebrained schemes, why can't they devote resources to get the damn operation fixed?
 
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Re: Mesa Air to get in drone delivery business

Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:32 pm

ScottB wrote:
jetmatt777 wrote:
How many resources are being devoted into this?

I dislike Mesa for many reasons but this is not one of them.


I get that you don't necessarily solve a problem by throwing more bodies at it. But people call this airline Messy for a reason. If they're devoting resources to all number of harebrained schemes, why can't they devote resources to get the damn operation fixed?


Why do they need to fix the operation if the majors continue to contract with them? Mesa is the cheapest for a reason. They are not going to improve operational reliability unless it is demanded by their customers.
 
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Re: Mesa Air to get in drone delivery business

Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:56 pm

Start with small packages and deliveries, then to small air taxis. I guess this is the new "adjacent possible".

nws2002 wrote:
ScottB wrote:
jetmatt777 wrote:
How many resources are being devoted into this?

I dislike Mesa for many reasons but this is not one of them.


I get that you don't necessarily solve a problem by throwing more bodies at it. But people call this airline Messy for a reason. If they're devoting resources to all number of harebrained schemes, why can't they devote resources to get the damn operation fixed?


Why do they need to fix the operation if the majors continue to contract with them? Mesa is the cheapest for a reason. They are not going to improve operational reliability unless it is demanded by their customers.


Bingo - Mesa is just the brand that the majors use to hid the race to the bottom via regionals.

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