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The COP26 movement thread

Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:08 pm

The COP26 summit in Glasgow is soon upon us so from an aviation enthusiasts point of view, I thought a thread on associated aircraft movements would be in order.
Like who is arriving in what and when.
Presume both GLA and PIK will see a substantial increase in traffic.
 
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Re: The COP26 thread

Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:22 pm

Will be interesting to see the plane charters.
 
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Re: The COP26 thread

Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:30 pm

IceCream wrote:
Will be interesting to see the plane charters.

Yes, hence this thread. I'm wondering how much capacity GLA has for parking private jets.
 
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Re: The COP26 thread

Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:27 pm

TC957 wrote:
IceCream wrote:
Will be interesting to see the plane charters.

Yes, hence this thread. I'm wondering how much capacity GLA has for parking private jets.

Especially with Covid and the end of the summer travel season I think there'll be more than enough space.
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:35 pm

I’m sure the event will attract plenty of rich, self-important types in their private jets to discuss the climate. If the ramp attracts too much interest, they’ll direct the crews to fly empty to various locations, only to burn more fuel, create more pollution. Been there, done that.

I was flying for a guy named Sulzberger, we were at the Kentucky Derby, 60 Minutes started filming, “Get the plane out of here”. “Yes, sir”, didn’t want to stay anyway. Repeated at the Masters, I may have the order wrong, it was long ago. 60 Minutes stopped being interested when the rich started fighting back.
 
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Re: The COP26 thread

Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:39 pm

TC957 wrote:
IceCream wrote:
Will be interesting to see the plane charters.

Yes, hence this thread. I'm wondering how much capacity GLA has for parking private jets.


Both nearby Edinburgh and Prestwick have massive disused runways for parking !

If St Mawgan can cope a region with three airports surely can.

A few dozen bizjets, government transports ,and military support craft into Prestwick ain't going to stretch the airport capacity of the Scottish Central Belt !
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:50 pm

Given that COB26 is meant to address, amongst other things, how, by reducing emissions we can help stop killing the planet I wonder if there will be less business jets and more arrivals on scheduled flights.
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:26 pm

jumpjets wrote:
Given that COB26 is meant to address, amongst other things, how, by reducing emissions we can help stop killing the planet I wonder if there will be less business jets and more arrivals on scheduled flights.


Of the 25.000 delegates to COP26, quite a number plan to travel to Glasgow by train from LHR and Europe.

There will even be a special climate train:
Eurostar - AMS-BRU-St. Pancras and then Euston-Glasgow Central

https://www.transport.gov.scot/cop26/co ... port-plan/
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:58 pm

Japan sent it's empty 777-300 to Edinburgh, Prestwick and Glasgow a week or so ago, and then back to Tokyo, all in the name of crew familiarisation . You really couldn't write it. As far as I know the airport 6 miles away from the conference (GLA) will be busy. As will the nearby (27 miles) aircraft overspill (PIK) and the airport 40 miles east of Glasgow (EDI).
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:09 am

Couldn't that have not be done on a simulator instead ? I thought airport layouts and flight paths can be programmed in these days.
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:39 pm

I think most flights for the VVIPs i.e. Air Force One et al will be landing at PIK. Less important folk might be slumming it on a Ryanair flight to GLA. :mrgreen:
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:14 pm

TC957 wrote:
Couldn't that have not be done on a simulator instead ? I thought airport layouts and flight paths can be programmed in these days.


Indeed so, especially given GLA handles an EK 777 daily (twice daily pre-covid times) and PIK the Air France Cargo 777 weekly. It certainly got a few journalists tongues wagging.
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:51 pm

Skipness....may I suggest this thread is for the aviation side of the event and leave political, enviornmental and other non-av subjects associated with it for another time ? Maybe start a tread in non-av for what's not aircraft related ?
Thanks. I hope our Scottish spotter friends have a field day with exotic visitors. Please do share the photos !
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:19 pm

Hi, first post so go easy.

PAP to GLA in a MAX 8
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ok-swb#29a26f36

Flew from GLA to PUJ yesterday morning in 9 hours. I had no idea they could cover this distance, albeit without much weight on board.
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:42 pm

Boeing does deliveries to EU non-stop out of Seattle, not a problem.
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:59 pm

kramer81 wrote:
Hi, first post so go easy.

PAP to GLA in a MAX 8
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ok-swb#29a26f36

Flew from GLA to PUJ yesterday morning in 9 hours. I had no idea they could cover this distance, albeit without much weight on board.


I've see a fair few flights from Seattle stopping in GLA in the middle of the night showing up on flightradar
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:09 pm

jomur wrote:
kramer81 wrote:
Hi, first post so go easy.

PAP to GLA in a MAX 8
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ok-swb#29a26f36

Flew from GLA to PUJ yesterday morning in 9 hours. I had no idea they could cover this distance, albeit without much weight on board.


I've see a fair few flights from Seattle stopping in GLA in the middle of the night showing up on flightradar


Yes Oman Air, and Fly Dubai examples are regular business.
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:12 pm

Two USAF C-17's arrived at Glasgow today and the former RAF Leuchars base today, each offloading 'Marine One' type choppers. A French Air Force/goverment Dassault Falcon 900 also appeared at GLA.
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:50 am

having a quick look through FR24 there looks like a Vietnam Airlines 787 is due Sunday morning and then re-positions to Edinburgh for Parking, also showing is a Cyprus A319 . C17 00-0175 is on the ground along with Learjet 84-0141 which arrived a few days ago.
For Glasgow on Sunday Swedish Air Force Gulf5 102005 is showing due 1600 and Slovenian Air Force F2000 L1-01 due 1800

Birmingham has slots booked for aircraft parking for the next week but whether they will be used or not time will tell

obviously until they are on the ground none of the above are certain
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Sat Oct 30, 2021 10:44 am

Arriving aircraft will be using stands 32 to 40. 32 to 36 are actual gates and 37 to 40 hard stands near the VIP entrance for those that do not know Glasgow airport. I suspect quite a few flights won't show up on flight tracking sites until the last minute.
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Sat Oct 30, 2021 3:33 pm

These at least are scattered round ROME RIGHT NOW
RA96019 this won’t show coz of the Anglo/Russian Cold War
15001 Canadian 310
XATW BORIS BUS
PKGIG
LVGHO
B3999
4XEHH
A39-007 330mrt
V8-OAS
K7066 INDIAN 77W
09-0016 757
plus some aircraft down the road at pratica de mare including airforce 1 and 2 French airforce 330.

MM62174 Is at home at Champion
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Sat Oct 30, 2021 4:42 pm

JannEejit wrote:
Two USAF C-17's arrived at Glasgow today and the former RAF Leuchars base today, each offloading 'Marine One' type choppers. A French Air Force/goverment Dassault Falcon 900 also appeared at GLA.


I did not think about cargo planes to ferry helicopters. There will be at least one or two more USAF C-17's bringing in presidential limos and Suburbans for the motorcade. As well as a 747 "backup" Air Force One which will be stationed nearby but probably not at GLA just in case it's needed.
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:20 pm

IPFreely wrote:
JannEejit wrote:
Two USAF C-17's arrived at Glasgow today and the former RAF Leuchars base today, each offloading 'Marine One' type choppers. A French Air Force/goverment Dassault Falcon 900 also appeared at GLA.


I did not think about cargo planes to ferry helicopters. There will be at least one or two more USAF C-17's bringing in presidential limos and Suburbans for the motorcade. As well as a 747 "backup" Air Force One which will be stationed nearby but probably not at GLA just in case it's needed.


I believe the limos arrived at Glasgow-Prestwick yesterday ? AF1 is rumoured to be landing at either GLA, PIK, EDI, BHX, MAN or indeed the former RAF Leuchars station in Fife, depending on who you believe. I also saw a rumour today suggesting LHR and a train journey to Glasgow. Some of the rumours are hilarious. Meanwhile in the city environs, Cop26 related road closures and diversions to keep traffic away from the conference venue are kicking in. It took me 1h 8mins yesterday to drive to work, a journey I normally do in under 15 minutes.
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:44 pm

Not sure if related but a lot of heavy equipment was unloaded from a US C-17 at BFS today.
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Sun Oct 31, 2021 12:02 pm

Not sure if these flights are related to COP26, but today we got

CY1630 from Larnaca - A319
BG2102 from Dhaka - B787-9
L61 from Nouakchott - B737-Max
KQ7688 from Nairobi - B787-8
TRK8 from Tirana - A319

a couple of wide bodies from Rome and EK evening flights from DXB these two days
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:10 pm

xijiayu wrote:
Not sure if these flights are related to COP26, but today we got

CY1630 from Larnaca - A319
BG2102 from Dhaka - B787-9
L61 from Nouakchott - B737-Max
KQ7688 from Nairobi - B787-8
TRK8 from Tirana - A319

a couple of wide bodies from Rome and EK evening flights from DXB these two days


They will be as they are not usually at GLA. It's the first time EK has had 2 flights a day since March 2020.
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Sun Oct 31, 2021 7:30 pm

I wonder if any local spotter at GLA today to capture the movement. We need EK to bring A380 back to GLA. GLA spent quite a lot of money to upgrade the departure gate to accommodate A380 prior to pandemic, but sadly A380 did not come last year.
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Sun Oct 31, 2021 8:13 pm

xijiayu wrote:
I wonder if any local spotter at GLA today to capture the movement. We need EK to bring A380 back to GLA. GLA spent quite a lot of money to upgrade the departure gate to accommodate A380 prior to pandemic, but sadly A380 did not come last year.


Not many EK routes saw an A380 last year did they. It'll be back at GLA next spring if demand is sufficient
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Sun Oct 31, 2021 8:15 pm

xijiayu wrote:
Not sure if these flights are related to COP26, but today we got

CY1630 from Larnaca - A319
BG2102 from Dhaka - B787-9
L61 from Nouakchott - B737-Max
KQ7688 from Nairobi - B787-8
TRK8 from Tirana - A319

a couple of wide bodies from Rome and EK evening flights from DXB these two days


Yes they are all Cop26 related, none of these are regular GLA services. EK is extra capacity owing to demand. The Titan A321 in UK government colours is currently enroute from Rome carrying the PM.
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:07 pm

looks like a lot are dropping off pax at Glasgow then moving on
currently at Prestwick are LV-GHQ A330, 5T-CLJ 737max, 102005 GLF5, FAB-001 F900
flown to Birmingham for parking until Wednesday is Kuwaiti BBJ3 9K-GCC
several have relocated down to Luton and Stansted

currently on route to Glasgow are 4K-8888 A319 and K7066 B77W as well as several bizjets still due this evening
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:50 pm

LV-GHQ now en route to MAN
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Mon Nov 01, 2021 10:14 am

AF1 (82-8000) VC-25A, SAM46 (09-0016) C-32A and Greek AF HAF352B (273) FA7X have all just passed London heading northbound.
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Mon Nov 01, 2021 10:17 am

2 x French AF FA7Xs and Italian AF A319 are in the hold for Glasgow, while a Luftwaffe A319 is on final approach.
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:21 am

Article about plane spotters in Glasgow and Edinburgh with some photos and interviews:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-59114688
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:57 am

Japanese "Air Force One" 777 arrived at GLA this morning.

So it joined the Indian 777 and Egyptian A340 on the ramp.
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:38 pm

factsonly wrote:
Of the 25.000 delegates to COP26, quite a number plan to travel to Glasgow by train from LHR and Europe.

There will even be a special climate train:
Eurostar - AMS-BRU-St. Pancras and then Euston-Glasgow Central

They would have made better time in this..... :cheerful:



rutankrd wrote:
These at least are scattered round ROME RIGHT NOW
XATW BORIS BUS

Getting plenty of flak from the 'Fourth Estate'..... :fight:
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:05 pm

TC957 wrote:
I hope our Scottish spotter friends have a field day with exotic visitors. Please do share the photos !


Well you did ask. This is what I managed the past few days, a few quick trips over before and after work. GLA is close to my home. Air Force One went to Edinburgh, various other types including Aerolineas Argentina's A330 and Vietnam Airlines 787 went to Prestwick.

ImagePSX_20211104_120835 by JannEejit, on Flickr

ImagePSX_20211102_125425 by JannEejit, on Flickr

ImagePSX_20211102_131455 by JannEejit, on Flickr

ImagePSX_20211103_155016 by JannEejit, on Flickr

ImagePSX_20211103_134551 by JannEejit, on Flickr

ImagePSX_20211103_134005 by JannEejit, on Flickr

ImagePSX_20211103_133852 by JannEejit, on Flickr

ImagePSX_20211102_122002 by JannEejit, on Flickr

ImagePSX_20211102_122202 by JannEejit, on Flickr

ImagePSX_20211102_130552 by JannEejit, on Flickr

ImagePSX_20211102_130203 by JannEejit, on Flickr

ImagePSX_20211102_131237 by JannEejit, on Flickr

ImagePSX_20211102_131033 by JannEejit, on Flickr
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:12 am

Forgot the Indian 777...

ImageScreenshot_20211105-091022~2 by JannEejit, on Flickr
 
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Re: The COP26 movement thread

Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:15 am

Thanks, JannEejit, for such an amazing collection of photos, what a rich set of unusual GLA visitors

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