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SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:52 pm

Due to the pineapple express hitting the Bay Area, the 19's are the only runways in use right now. I know it is fairly common to land on the 19's, especially in bad weather, but taking off on the 19's is like landing on the 01's, I believe, fairly rare. The METAR:

KSFO 241456Z 19032G40KT 2SM -RA BR FEW008 BKN046 OVC085 17/15 A2963 RMK AO2 PK WND 20041/1443 SLP033 P0011 60034 T01720150 58007

32 kt sustained gusting to 40 kt right down the 19's will do it!
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:10 pm

In all my years flying, I never had a landing on the 1s or a departure from the 19s at KSFO.

Yikes:

KSFO 241556Z 19032G41KT 2SM -RA BR FEW008 BKN070 OVC090 17/15 A2963 RMK AO2 PK WND 20045/1515 SLP034 P0010 T01720150
KSFO 241456Z 19032G40KT 2SM -RA BR FEW008 BKN046 OVC085 17/15 A2963 RMK AO2 PK WND 20041/1443 SLP033 P0011 60034 T01720150 58007
KSFO 241356Z 20029G38KT 3SM -RA BR FEW011 BKN049 OVC075 17/15 A2964 RMK AO2 PK WND 19038/1355 SLP037 P0014 T01720150

KSFO 241503Z 2415/2518 19025G40KT 3SM RA BR SCT012 BKN030 OVC060 WS020/23050KT
FM241700 20025G42KT 3SM +RA BR OVC012 WS011/23055KT
FM242100 19030G46KT 2SM +RA BR OVC020
FM250100 19025G40KT 1/2SM +RA FG BKN006 OVC015 WS015/24050KT
FM250400 23017G25KT 2SM RA BR OVC011 WS015/24045KT
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:16 pm

CIITY3 and GAPP7 departures currently in use off of the 19's. It will be interesting how this progresses throughout the day as the forecast indicates that the weather is only going to get worse throughout the day.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:43 pm

I wonder how many noise complaints the airport gets today.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:27 pm

Not getting any better:

KSFO 241656Z 20032G42KT 2SM -RA BR FEW008 BKN042 OVC060 17/15 A2963 RMK AO2 PK WND 19044/1620 SLP034 P0011 T01720150

Prost wrote:
I wonder how many noise complaints the airport gets today.


Could be quite a few. I guess the preference is the CIITY3 RNAV departure, which puts them directly over Hillsborough and Burlingame on their way down the peninsula, which typically don't get low level overflight noise from SFO. If they used GAPP7, which is not RNAV, then the turn would be tighter and more flight would be over the bay.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:32 pm

Prost wrote:
I wonder how many noise complaints the airport gets today.


It was loud this morning. Certainly louder than the occasional days w landings on the 1s.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:42 pm

In all my years of flying in and out of SFO, today was my first time taking off into the Millbrae hills. DL716 took off right into the storm. Wasn’t too bumpy. I chose a window seat 6A looking forward to the view and wouldn’t you know it, there is NO FLIPPING WINDOW at this seat. Didn’t say that on the ap when I chose my seat either. Oh well…..
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:24 pm

Air India used 10 into:

KSFO 241756Z 19036G46KT 2SM -RA BR FEW008 BKN030 OVC050 18/16 A2961 RMK AO2 PK WND 19046/1756 SLP026 P0010 60065 T01780156 10178 20167 58007

Thinking that was a rough take off
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:41 pm

vegasplanes wrote:
Air India used 10 into:

KSFO 241756Z 19036G46KT 2SM -RA BR FEW008 BKN030 OVC050 18/16 A2961 RMK AO2 PK WND 19046/1756 SLP026 P0010 60065 T01780156 10178 20167 58007

Thinking that was a rough take off


Wow, it sure did! Must not have been enough length on the 19's for the extremely long flight. Anyone know what the crosswind limits for take-off on a 77L are? 40 kts?
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:52 pm

joemac547 wrote:
In all my years of flying in and out of SFO, today was my first time taking off into the Millbrae hills. DL716 took off right into the storm. Wasn’t too bumpy. I chose a window seat 6A looking forward to the view and wouldn’t you know it, there is NO FLIPPING WINDOW at this seat. Didn’t say that on the ap when I chose my seat either. Oh well…..


It won't help for today, but Seatguru.com has it noted on the 767-300 seat map versions that 6A has either a misaligned or missing window. Been there done that so have found this website very helpful if any question as to seat layouts/pros and cons etc before selection or to change.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:55 pm

Several go-arounds per FR24 and switchback patterns coming into the 19's.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:02 pm

phatfarmlines wrote:
Several go-arounds per FR24 and switchback patterns coming into the 19's.


AMX668 taking a second stab at it right now:

https://www.flightradar24.com/AMX668/299f2cf2

What's interesting is it looks like it didn't fly the normal missed approach, which is a climbing left turn. Instead, it went right over the hills and back into the pattern.

It just went missed for a second time.

KSFO 241856Z 19036G49KT 2SM -RA BR FEW008 BKN022 OVC034 17/16 A2960 RMK AO2 PK WND 20049/1851 SLP023 P0009 T01720156

Gusting to 49 kts now...good luck everyone!

UPDATE:

AMX668 now diverting to FAT. Long way to go for more fuel?
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:28 pm

adipasqu wrote:
phatfarmlines wrote:
Several go-arounds per FR24 and switchback patterns coming into the 19's.


AMX668 taking a second stab at it right now:

https://www.flightradar24.com/AMX668/299f2cf2

What's interesting is it looks like it didn't fly the normal missed approach, which is a climbing left turn. Instead, it went right over the hills and back into the pattern.

It just went missed for a second time.

KSFO 241856Z 19036G49KT 2SM -RA BR FEW008 BKN022 OVC034 17/16 A2960 RMK AO2 PK WND 20049/1851 SLP023 P0009 T01720156

Gusting to 49 kts now...good luck everyone!

Update: AM668 now diverting to FAT after two missed approaches.... good lord.

DL1047 in from MSP might be diverting as well? UA1909 from SEA appears to be trying for a second time, and DL2339 from SEA appears to have given up before even reaching the Bay Area (maybe just in a holding pattern). Etc, etc, etc.

Will be quite interesting to see what happens later today as LH454 (748) will be landing in 30 mins... along with tons more EU/ME arrivals. Sheesh.

Update, DL1047 now diverting to LAX.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:49 pm

Listening to the tower, pilots are getting wind shear alerts sitting on the runway waiting for take-off clearance.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:10 pm

adipasqu wrote:
Listening to the tower, pilots are getting wind shear alerts sitting on the runway waiting for take-off clearance.


Landed first time no issues.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:16 pm

I'm currently on DL 487 SFO-JFK 763ER N182DN and it was a very bumpy climb out. I noticed a SAS A330 taking to take off on the longer adjacent runway.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:43 pm

FlyHossD wrote:
In all my years flying, I never had a landing on the 1s or a departure from the 19s at KSFO.

Yikes:

KSFO 241556Z 19032G41KT 2SM -RA BR FEW008 BKN070 OVC090 17/15 A2963 RMK AO2 PK WND 20045/1515 SLP034 P0010 T01720150
KSFO 241456Z 19032G40KT 2SM -RA BR FEW008 BKN046 OVC085 17/15 A2963 RMK AO2 PK WND 20041/1443 SLP033 P0011 60034 T01720150 58007
KSFO 241356Z 20029G38KT 3SM -RA BR FEW011 BKN049 OVC075 17/15 A2964 RMK AO2 PK WND 19038/1355 SLP037 P0014 T01720150

KSFO 241503Z 2415/2518 19025G40KT 3SM RA BR SCT012 BKN030 OVC060 WS020/23050KT
FM241700 20025G42KT 3SM +RA BR OVC012 WS011/23055KT
FM242100 19030G46KT 2SM +RA BR OVC020
FM250100 19025G40KT 1/2SM +RA FG BKN006 OVC015 WS015/24050KT
FM250400 23017G25KT 2SM RA BR OVC011 WS015/24045KT


Back in 1975 I was on a UAL 747 that departed 19L for a flight to HNL. Super windy and rainy at the time.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:00 pm

adipasqu wrote:
phatfarmlines wrote:
Several go-arounds per FR24 and switchback patterns coming into the 19's.


AMX668 taking a second stab at it right now:

https://www.flightradar24.com/AMX668/299f2cf2

What's interesting is it looks like it didn't fly the normal missed approach, which is a climbing left turn. Instead, it went right over the hills and back into the pattern.

It just went missed for a second time.

KSFO 241856Z 19036G49KT 2SM -RA BR FEW008 BKN022 OVC034 17/16 A2960 RMK AO2 PK WND 20049/1851 SLP023 P0009 T01720156

Gusting to 49 kts now...good luck everyone!

UPDATE:

AMX668 now diverting to FAT. Long way to go for more fuel?


UA 2246 SNA-SFO flew same missed approach, straight ahead and right turn back in the pattern - UA 2036 to TPA had just taken off and was making the left out of SFO

AA 1631 from PHX went missed with a right turn back to the pattern, landed on try #2

DL 1317 from SLC just missed, right turn back to the pattern
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:12 pm

vegasplanes wrote:

DL 1317 from SLC just missed, right turn back to the pattern


DL 1317 was told to go around due to insufficient spacing. Looks like it was just pulled off the ILS approach again for the same reason.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:19 pm

adipasqu wrote:
vegasplanes wrote:

DL 1317 from SLC just missed, right turn back to the pattern


DL 1317 was told to go around due to insufficient spacing. Looks like it was just pulled off the ILS approach again for the same reason.



Interesting, looks like trying to squeeze out departures in between landings not working so well.

AA 614 from PHL -- left base for 19s, interesting that the flight was not sent "around" for the right base line with the others......looks like it sat in PHL for over 2 hours after push-back and prior to departure if FA is correct - wondering if fuel was an issue for this one. And now going around.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:30 pm

vegasplanes wrote:

Interesting, looks like trying to squeeze out departures in between landings not working so well.

.


Yeah, all landings are on 19L and they are trying to get the heavies out on 19L, as well. At some point, it stops working when the numbers are too much for 19L. Throw in the fact they can only depart one aircraft from 19R or 19L at a time since they are using the same departure, I'm surprised the situation isn't any worse.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:24 pm

Had to be fun at SFO today, especially for the controllers at NCT working those arrivals. As for bumps, beyond the issues with LLWS and crosswinds, you'd be surprised how smooth it can be flying through this more typical California rain. This kind of heavy, showery precipitation is generally not at all convective and can be quite smooth, though loud, to fly through.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:54 pm

N1120A wrote:
Had to be fun at SFO today, especially for the controllers at NCT working those arrivals. As for bumps, beyond the issues with LLWS and crosswinds, you'd be surprised how smooth it can be flying through this more typical California rain. This kind of heavy, showery precipitation is generally not at all convective and can be quite smooth, though loud, to fly through.


That’s what I was thinking - once you’re above the nearby ridgelines everything usually smooths right out.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:08 am

Wind changed, now 230. Theyre switching the airport around, pretty neat to listen on liveatc and watch fr24
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:17 am

r6russian wrote:
Wind changed, now 230. Theyre switching the airport around, pretty neat to listen on liveatc and watch fr24


Awesome to see all of the aircraft moving from the 19's to the 28's en masse.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:20 am

r6russian wrote:
Wind changed, now 230. Theyre switching the airport around, pretty neat to listen on liveatc and watch fr24


OAK has also turned around. SJC still using the 12s.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:34 am

Man I hope someone got a takeoff video from a window seat. That'd be neat to see!
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:36 am

I miss Channel 9 for days like today… I captured our touchdown onto 19L from SNA on UA2230 earlier. What a fun ride, made in one attempt with a very squeaky interior 738:

https://share.icloud.com/photos/0E2CaVT ... ZEe3FUyg3w


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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:43 am

scairbus wrote:
I miss Channel 9 for days like today… I captured our touchdown onto 19L from SNA on UA2230 earlier. What a fun ride, made in one attempt with a very squeaky interior 738:

https://share.icloud.com/photos/0E2CaVT ... ZEe3FUyg3w


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Thanks for sharing! Looked like a fun ride indeed :D
 
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Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:40 pm

 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:08 pm

GalaxyFlyer wrote:

Yikes. You'd think a driver with a lite load might've wanted to sit that crossing out.... otherwise, thing's going to act like a sail!
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:08 am

GalaxyFlyer wrote:


Check out the wind resonance on the Golden Gate Bridge:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6oH3iWux18
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:20 am

Yikes, that’s one scary drive! Flashbacks to Tacoma Narrows.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:27 am

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
Yikes, that’s one scary drive! Flashbacks to Tacoma Narrows.


Indeed...fortunately a much sturdier bridge design. Fun to look up - the GGB has been 'whistling' for a few years now in high winds because of the modifications made to the railing to prevent suicides.
 
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Re: SFO takeoffs and landings on 19's Sunday, 10/24

Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:05 pm

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