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DXB (1970s) and MEM Terminals--Similar Design

Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:56 pm

I recently noticed that Dubai's 1971 terminal and Memphis are quite similar in design--yet have seemingly unconnected origins. Is there any connection or direct influence? I feel like there are other similar terminals as well.

Memphis (1963), by local architect Roy Harrover: https://www.airporthistory.org/blue-con ... arly-1960s
Dubai (1971), by Page and Broughton--appears to be an American firm? http://www.dubaiasitusedtobe.net/BrianB ... port.shtml
 
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Re: DXB (1970s) and MEM Terminals--Similar Design

Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:24 pm

Wow, that's an interesting bit of history!
 
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Re: DXB (1970s) and MEM Terminals--Similar Design

Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:55 pm

Holy crap- Nice catch!!

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Re: DXB (1970s) and MEM Terminals--Similar Design

Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:41 pm

simairlinenet wrote:
I recently noticed that Dubai's 1971 terminal and Memphis are quite similar in design--yet have seemingly unconnected origins. Is there any connection or direct influence? I feel like there are other similar terminals as well.


DMM (Dammam - King Fahd International, Saudi Arabia) is similar as well. Here is a visual comparison between DMM, DXB and MEM...

 
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Re: DXB (1970s) and MEM Terminals--Similar Design

Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:27 pm

To me that design is also somewhat reminiscent of the entry structures for Terminals A and B at EWR, which opened in the same era.
 
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Re: DXB (1970s) and MEM Terminals--Similar Design

Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:44 pm

EWR Terminals A, B, C and Boston's former Terminal 1.
 
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Re: DXB (1970s) and MEM Terminals--Similar Design

Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:47 pm

Maybe there's an architect lurking who can describe the fun-with-concrete 1960s...
 
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Re: DXB (1970s) and MEM Terminals--Similar Design

Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:52 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
Maybe there's an architect lurking who can describe the fun-with-concrete 1960s...


The popularity of concrete, especially in the 50s and 60s, was in part due to 'brutalist' architecture being in vogue for public works in that time. If you want to see some horrific stuff from that period, check out works of Le Corbusier or the Smithsons in the UK. Very ugly stuff.
 
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Re: DXB (1970s) and MEM Terminals--Similar Design

Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:04 pm

STT757 wrote:
EWR Terminals A, B, C and Boston's former Terminal 1.

Excellent, I knew there was something in mind. So to add them:

Boston (1970)
Newark (1973)

So the question still remains, what is the link? There must have been some style or structure that preceded these.
 
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Re: DXB (1970s) and MEM Terminals--Similar Design

Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:08 pm

UA training center in Denver.
 
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Re: DXB (1970s) and MEM Terminals--Similar Design

Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:58 pm

Aaron747 wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:
Maybe there's an architect lurking who can describe the fun-with-concrete 1960s...


The popularity of concrete, especially in the 50s and 60s, was in part due to 'brutalist' architecture being in vogue for public works in that time. If you want to see some horrific stuff from that period, check out works of Le Corbusier or the Smithsons in the UK. Very ugly stuff.


I see your point, but the TWA Flight Center at JFK dated from the early 60s, too. It is a contemporary of MEM. Concrete doesn't have to be ugly.

In the airport realm, see UA's ORD Terminal 1 (glass & steel, 1987) as the reverse.

https://www.nytimes.com/1987/08/23/arts ... ation.html
 
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Re: DXB (1970s) and MEM Terminals--Similar Design

Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:16 pm

Add SNA old terminal to the martini glass crowd.
 
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Re: DXB (1970s) and MEM Terminals--Similar Design

Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:14 pm

Nice to see the 741/742 at MEM! Was it scheduled or a one-off?
 
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Re: DXB (1970s) and MEM Terminals--Similar Design

Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:07 am

MIflyer12 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:
Maybe there's an architect lurking who can describe the fun-with-concrete 1960s...


The popularity of concrete, especially in the 50s and 60s, was in part due to 'brutalist' architecture being in vogue for public works in that time. If you want to see some horrific stuff from that period, check out works of Le Corbusier or the Smithsons in the UK. Very ugly stuff.


I see your point, but the TWA Flight Center at JFK dated from the early 60s, too. It is a contemporary of MEM. Concrete doesn't have to be ugly.

In the airport realm, see UA's ORD Terminal 1 (glass & steel, 1987) as the reverse.

https://www.nytimes.com/1987/08/23/arts ... ation.html


I didn’t say it was all bad, just that designs inspired by Brutalism were. Saarinen’s work was quite nice - not only TWA but the original IAD terminal.
 
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Re: DXB (1970s) and MEM Terminals--Similar Design

Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:29 am

I like the Newark terminals. Frankly I’ll miss the design once it’s gone. Very manly and mathematic in its design. Nothing dainty about 60s construction at all.

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