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Cubsrule wrote:Aliqiout wrote:alo2yyz wrote:
Cookeville apparently now wants commercial pax service. As if.
https://www.newschannel5.com/news/upper-cumberland-regional-airport-officials-consider-offering-commercial-flights
Who in their right mind would trade an easy 70 mile drive to BNA for infrequent, expensive RJ service?
But the choices are not a flight or driving. They are
flight, or a flight and driving. Depending on what "expensive" is, I wouldn't be driving an extra 70 miles, just to take a flight, when I could have the flight without the driving. Especially since it would actually be 140 miles (you need to get back somehow).
Well, actually, the choices are probably two more expensive flights versus an easy drive to Nashville and a cheaper nonstop. That's a no brainer for most pepople.
Aliqiout wrote:Cubsrule wrote:Aliqiout wrote:But the choices are not a flight or driving. They are
flight, or a flight and driving. Depending on what "expensive" is, I wouldn't be driving an extra 70 miles, just to take a flight, when I could have the flight without the driving. Especially since it would actually be 140 miles (you need to get back somehow).
Well, actually, the choices are probably two more expensive flights versus an easy drive to Nashville and a cheaper nonstop. That's a no brainer for most pepople.
Just how many nonstop destinations do you think BNA has?
Jshank83 wrote:Chicago and Atlanta was the choice. Most expensive one. We will see if it goes thru
https://wnws.com/mckellar-sipes-regiona ... s-express/
Cubsrule wrote:Aliqiout wrote:Cubsrule wrote:
Well, actually, the choices are probably two more expensive flights versus an easy drive to Nashville and a cheaper nonstop. That's a no brainer for most pepople.
Just how many nonstop destinations do you think BNA has?
Dozens, and the nonstop destinations capture probably 95-98 percent of domestic demand.
Aliqiout wrote:Cubsrule wrote:Aliqiout wrote:Just how many nonstop destinations do you think BNA has?
Dozens, and the nonstop destinations capture probably 95-98 percent of domestic demand.
I think you find that nonstop passangers are dramatically lower than 95%,. How much O&D do you think there is to Dallas or Atlanta?
maps4ltd wrote:Jshank83 wrote:Chicago and Atlanta was the choice. Most expensive one. We will see if it goes thru
https://wnws.com/mckellar-sipes-regiona ... s-express/
ORD-MKL?! 450 miles is a long time on a C208.
maps4ltd wrote:Jshank83 wrote:Chicago and Atlanta was the choice. Most expensive one. We will see if it goes thru
https://wnws.com/mckellar-sipes-regiona ... s-express/
ORD-MKL?! 450 miles is a long time on a C208.
atrude777 wrote:maps4ltd wrote:Jshank83 wrote:Chicago and Atlanta was the choice. Most expensive one. We will see if it goes thru
https://wnws.com/mckellar-sipes-regiona ... s-express/
ORD-MKL?! 450 miles is a long time on a C208.
Assuming it’s actually ORD.
Could be MDW.
You’ll see in Southern’s proposal Chicago doesn’t have an airport code, it’s only mentioned by CHI.
ORD would be obvious but Southern doesn’t fly there right now, and there’s defiantly a lack of Gates too.
Alex
mga707 wrote:Fair enough, but 50 years ago they had 'real airplane' (Martin 404) service to Jackson, Shelbyville/Tullahoma, and Crossville as well, courtesy of the C.A.B. and Southern Airways. Jackson even had a few DC-9 flights along with the Martins.
FlyingElvii wrote:Seems to work going direct to a resort with a lot of bags, or a big college town, but doesn’t work for “Normal” destinations. As noted, why take a bus when you can just drive on your own schedule? Miss the last outbound bus just once due to a late flight, and you’ll be back in the car on the next trip.
Cubsrule wrote:Aliqiout wrote:Cubsrule wrote:
Dozens, and the nonstop destinations capture probably 95-98 percent of domestic demand.
I think you find that nonstop passangers are dramatically lower than 95%,. How much O&D do you think there is to Dallas or Atlanta?
BNA-DFW/DAL is a pretty big market, probably 600 or 700 PDEW. BNA-ATL is smaller (200 PDEW?), although that's partially because a lot of the market drives.
Aliqiout wrote:Cubsrule wrote:Aliqiout wrote:I think you find that nonstop passangers are dramatically lower than 95%,. How much O&D do you think there is to Dallas or Atlanta?
BNA-DFW/DAL is a pretty big market, probably 600 or 700 PDEW. BNA-ATL is smaller (200 PDEW?), although that's partially because a lot of the market drives.
So approximately 200 people on the 13 daily scheduled 737's to ATL are not connecting and less than 700 on the 15 daily mainline nonstops to DFW/DAL are not connecting, then we have to consider CLT, DEN, DCA/IAD, MIA,SEA, PHL, LAX, ORD/MDW, SLC...all major connecting hubs that will not be close to 95% O&D....
Cubsrule wrote:Aliqiout wrote:Cubsrule wrote:
BNA-DFW/DAL is a pretty big market, probably 600 or 700 PDEW. BNA-ATL is smaller (200 PDEW?), although that's partially because a lot of the market drives.
So approximately 200 people on the 13 daily scheduled 737's to ATL are not connecting and less than 700 on the 15 daily mainline nonstops to DFW/DAL are not connecting, then we have to consider CLT, DEN, DCA/IAD, MIA,SEA, PHL, LAX, ORD/MDW, SLC...all major connecting hubs that will not be close to 95% O&D....
Of course not. But what’s that got to do with the price of eggs in Malaysia? I said that 95-98 percent of the demand had a nonstop option, not that 95-98 percent of the folks on the flights are O&D.
dennypayne wrote:Clearly you guys haven't experienced Nashville traffic lately. And I've said it before, people in these towns are much more likely to have someone drop them off at the local airport - they are often not comfortable driving in that ridiculous traffic. And if they did drive, they would have to pay to park for the duration of their trip. That added cost is not insignificant either. And finally, people value convenience too. I personally will pay more for a flight out of TYS to avoid driving to BNA or ATL, since I am local, and I imagine I'm not alone. If I were in Jackson or Cookeville, I'd do the same.
NLINK wrote:Talking about Cookeville, in the late 1980's and early 1990's another small town had air service in TN, Clarksville. That was a era when other small towns like Gadsden, Anniston, and Tuscaloosa had ASA service using the Bandeirante to Atlanta.
MIflyer12 wrote:Metchalus wrote:That's a new one to me, an airline being asked to leave an airport because they are crap.
Has this happened before?
Yes. There's been some turnover in EAS routes in the last few years.
Poster knope2001 watches that stuff pretty closely.