audidudi wrote:

Latest movement for 4 March 2022:

MSN 55137 Breeze Airwys A223 C-GPOS/N204BZ, delivered from BFM>TPA:

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/55137

oldJoe wrote:

audidudi wrote:

Latest movement for 4 March 2022:

MSN 55137 Breeze Airwys A223 C-GPOS/N204BZ, delivered from BFM>TPA:

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/55137

If my counting is correct than this is the #199 delivered of the A220`s series. Somebody can confirm ?

audidudi wrote:

oldJoe wrote:

audidudi wrote:

Latest movement for 4 March 2022:

MSN 55137 Breeze Airwys A223 C-GPOS/N204BZ, delivered from BFM>TPA:

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/55137

If my counting is correct than this is the #199 delivered of the A220`s series. Somebody can confirm ?

I tried to add the monthly/yearly/totals to the deliveries last year and apparently AIB Family Flights #s didn't agree with someone else on here. According to their statistics, this is the breakdown of deliveries to date (170 total...CS300/A221/A223):

2017...2 total
CS 300...2

2018...26 total
A221...4
CS 300...6
A223...16

2019...48 total
A221...25
A223...23

2020...38 total
A221...10
A223...28

2021...50 total
A221...3
A223...47

2022...6 total...YTD
A221...3
A223...6

oldJoe wrote:

audidudi wrote:

oldJoe wrote:

If my counting is correct than this is the #199 delivered of the A220`s series. Somebody can confirm ?

I tried to add the monthly/yearly/totals to the deliveries last year and apparently AIB Family Flights #s didn't agree with someone else on here. According to their statistics, this is the breakdown of deliveries to date (170 total...CS300/A221/A223):

2017...2 total
CS 300...2

2018...26 total
A221...4
CS 300...6
A223...16

2019...48 total
A221...25
A223...23

2020...38 total
A221...10
A223...28

2021...50 total
A221...3
A223...47

2022...6 total...YTD
A221...3
A223...6

I just checked the O&D spreadsheet from Airbus wich tells me at the end of 2021 there were 50 A220-100`s and 143 A220-300`s delivered so a total of 193.
AIB Family Flights statistic starts in 2017. The first ever delivered aircaft was in July 2016 to Swiss if I remember correct. It looks like to me that only from 2020 on they have the right numbers. At the end of the day my YTD number of 199 delivered frames seems correct. Who gets the 200th frame ?

audidudi wrote:

oldJoe wrote:

audidudi wrote:

I tried to add the monthly/yearly/totals to the deliveries last year and apparently AIB Family Flights #s didn't agree with someone else on here. According to their statistics, this is the breakdown of deliveries to date (170 total...CS300/A221/A223):

2017...2 total
CS 300...2

2018...26 total
A221...4
CS 300...6
A223...16

2019...48 total
A221...25
A223...23

2020...38 total
A221...10
A223...28

2021...50 total
A221...3
A223...47

2022...6 total...YTD
A221...3
A223...6

I just checked the O&D spreadsheet from Airbus wich tells me at the end of 2021 there were 50 A220-100`s and 143 A220-300`s delivered so a total of 193.
AIB Family Flights statistic starts in 2017. The first ever delivered aircaft was in July 2016 to Swiss if I remember correct. It looks like to me that only from 2020 on they have the right numbers. At the end of the day my YTD number of 199 delivered frames seems correct. Who gets the 200th frame ?

Yes I forgot about the 5 Swiss CS 100s and 2 Air Baltic CS 300s which were delivered in 2016, which still only gives a total of 177. So I'm still missing 16 deliveries! Help!

oldJoe wrote:

audidudi wrote:

oldJoe wrote:

I just checked the O&D spreadsheet from Airbus wich tells me at the end of 2021 there were 50 A220-100`s and 143 A220-300`s delivered so a total of 193.
AIB Family Flights statistic starts in 2017. The first ever delivered aircaft was in July 2016 to Swiss if I remember correct. It looks like to me that only from 2020 on they have the right numbers. At the end of the day my YTD number of 199 delivered frames seems correct. Who gets the 200th frame ?

Yes I forgot about the 5 Swiss CS 100s and 2 Air Baltic CS 300s which were delivered in 2016, which still only gives a total of 177. So I'm still missing 16 deliveries! Help!

Let`s start in 2017 which says only 2 CS300 delivered. Thats absolutely wrong. Swiss took delivery in that year of 3 -100`s and 7 -300`s as well as Air Baltic for 4 -300`s. Now we have found already 12 frames. I keep on searching for the other 4 missed.
Edit : 2018 6 CS300 is wrong too. Swiss took delivery of 8 CS300 plus 4 A220-300`s in this year

bspc wrote:

oldJoe wrote:

audidudi wrote:

Yes I forgot about the 5 Swiss CS 100s and 2 Air Baltic CS 300s which were delivered in 2016, which still only gives a total of 177. So I'm still missing 16 deliveries! Help!

Let`s start in 2017 which says only 2 CS300 delivered. Thats absolutely wrong. Swiss took delivery in that year of 3 -100`s and 7 -300`s as well as Air Baltic for 4 -300`s. Now we have found already 12 frames. I keep on searching for the other 4 missed.
Edit : 2018 6 CS300 is wrong too. Swiss took delivery of 8 CS300 plus 4 A220-300`s in this year

The guy that runs the AIB Family Flights site seems to pay attention to the feedback that people are saying. On the site's discord he pointed out that some Contractual Deliveries were missing for the CSeries aircraft and supposedly added them.

oldJoe wrote:

bspc wrote:

oldJoe wrote:

Let`s start in 2017 which says only 2 CS300 delivered. Thats absolutely wrong. Swiss took delivery in that year of 3 -100`s and 7 -300`s as well as Air Baltic for 4 -300`s. Now we have found already 12 frames. I keep on searching for the other 4 missed.
Edit : 2018 6 CS300 is wrong too. Swiss took delivery of 8 CS300 plus 4 A220-300`s in this year

The guy that runs the AIB Family Flights site seems to pay attention to the feedback that people are saying. On the site's discord he pointed out that some Contractual Deliveries were missing for the CSeries aircraft and supposedly added them.

Indeed. The most easy way was to read and check post #277 from "mfranjic" of last years topic which shows even the delivery date. ( Thanks Mario )
So todays MSN 50064 A220-100 N144DU for Delta marks the 200th delivery. Someone proofs me wrong ?

lightsaber wrote:

Thank you for the movement details. There isn't much to comment on other that is seems like an end of the quarter delivery surge looks plausible.

Skywatcher wrote:

Based on the Airbus site 9 have been delivered so far in 2022 as of today;

DL (x 3)-100
Comlux (x 1)-100
Breeze (x 1)-300
AF (x 1)-300
Air Baltic (x 1)-300
Iraq (x 2)-300

So maybe 4 more before quarter end would be 13?

audidudi wrote:

Skywatcher wrote:

Based on the Airbus site 9 have been delivered so far in 2022 as of today;

DL (x 3)-100
Comlux (x 1)-100
Breeze (x 1)-300
AF (x 1)-300
Air Baltic (x 1)-300
Iraq (x 2)-300

So maybe 4 more before quarter end would be 13?

According to both AIB Family Flights and planespotters.net, the two Iraqi Airways A223s, YI-ARE and YI-ARF were "delivered on contract" on 8 November 2021 and 30 December 2021 respectively. So why are they being counted in 2022 totals when they were both already counted in 2021 totals? I'm going to stick with my total of 7 YTD.

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/55136

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/55145

FlyingCheetos wrote:

Looks like Airbus is having a hard time ramping up production rates for the A220. How many are expected to be delivered this year? At this rate it’s going to take more than 10 years to deliver the current backlog.

audidudi wrote:

Latest movement for 19 March 2022:

MSN 50065 Delta Air Lines A221 C-FOUY/N145DQ, maiden test flight at YMX:

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/50065

FLALEFTY wrote:

audidudi wrote:

Latest movement for 19 March 2022:

MSN 50065 Delta Air Lines A221 C-FOUY/N145DQ, maiden test flight at YMX:

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/50065

This one would be the final A221 for DL, correct?

audidudi wrote:

Latest movement for 20 March 2022;

MSN 55161 Air Canada A223 C-GVUH/C-GVUH, maiden test flight at YMX:

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/55161

9252fly wrote:

audidudi wrote:

Latest movement for 20 March 2022;

MSN 55161 Air Canada A223 C-GVUH/C-GVUH, maiden test flight at YMX:

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/55161

It has been awhile since AC has taken delivery of any A223's. Would MSN 55161 be part of the order that was deferred and now proceeding? If that is the case, how many units were in that original deferral? I believe AC currently has 27 and the deferral was for an additional 6. The original firm order was for 45, which I believe the final 10 are slated for delivery around 2025/2026 if correct? When the original order was placed many years ago, I believe there were also 30 options, don't know if they still exist? If post 2025 Airbus has officially launched a A225 variant, I would imagine AC would look at that variant for those remaining options.

Air Canada had previously determined it would no longer be purchasing under an amendment to the purchase
agreement concluded with Airbus in November 2020.

yyztpa2 wrote:

FlyingCheetos wrote:

Looks like Airbus is having a hard time ramping up production rates for the A220. How many are expected to be delivered this year? At this rate it’s going to take more than 10 years to deliver the current backlog.

I'm wondering the same. When Breeze received their first in October, they also announced they were expecting one per month through April 2022. They only now have 2 and you could argue a 3rd is ready in Mobile but still the prodcution has not met what they originally projected.

WayexTDI wrote:

yyztpa2 wrote:

FlyingCheetos wrote:

Looks like Airbus is having a hard time ramping up production rates for the A220. How many are expected to be delivered this year? At this rate it’s going to take more than 10 years to deliver the current backlog.

I'm wondering the same. When Breeze received their first in October, they also announced they were expecting one per month through April 2022. They only now have 2 and you could argue a 3rd is ready in Mobile but still the prodcution has not met what they originally projected.

Well, with raw material and part shortages left and right, is anyone surprised that Airbus is having issues ramping up A220 production?

audidudi wrote:

Latest movement for 18 March 2022:

MSN 55150 JetBlue Airways A223 C-GPZX/N3104J, maiden test flight at BFM:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/546

FlyingCheetos wrote:

I have always wondered, how does aircraft manufacturers cope with raw materials prices fluctuations? I mean, most of the A220 firm orders are from 2015-2019, and since then most materials used to manufacture an aircraft (aluminum, steel, electronics, nickel, titanium) have more than doubled in price, most of them are with prices on a 50 year high, if not a all time high. When a airline firms an order with a aircraft manufacturer, is the price fixed? Or is it variable depending on current costs?

TheLunchbox wrote:

audidudi wrote:

Latest movement for 18 March 2022:

MSN 55150 JetBlue Airways A223 C-GPZX/N3104J, maiden test flight at BFM:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/546

This link is for an Air France A350

TheLunchbox wrote:

audidudi wrote:

Latest movement for 18 March 2022:

MSN 55150 JetBlue Airways A223 C-GPZX/N3104J, maiden test flight at BFM:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/546

This link is for an Air France A350

yyztpa2 wrote:

55143 was registered as N206BZ for Breeze on March 30
https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquir ... mberResult

yyztpa2 wrote:

Also to note that the last A220-100 for Delta (50065) was FAA registered for Delta on March 31. N145DQ