wedgetail737 wrote:

I'm hoping for more connecting-the-dots this year, especially out of BOI and GEG. But I'm also hoping for a couple of new links to smaller CA communities like ACV and BFL.

Wneast wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

I'm hoping for more connecting-the-dots this year, especially out of BOI and GEG. But I'm also hoping for a couple of new links to smaller CA communities like ACV and BFL.

I would agree with you more connecting of the dots from BOI and GEG… BOI so likely to gain more if so though

wedgetail737 wrote:

I'm hoping for more connecting-the-dots this year, especially out of BOI and GEG. But I'm also hoping for a couple of new links to smaller CA communities like ACV and BFL.

AA737-823 wrote:

Could someone point me to a list of which 737-900ERs are ETOPS rated?
I see they've upped ANC-HNL to a 739 sometimes, instead of the typical 738.

DaCubbyBearBar wrote:

Wneast wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

I'm hoping for more connecting-the-dots this year, especially out of BOI and GEG. But I'm also hoping for a couple of new links to smaller CA communities like ACV and BFL.

I would agree with you more connecting of the dots from BOI and GEG… BOI so likely to gain more if so though

I look for AS to make a run at getting SWA to pull back in BOI. I look for BOI to add LAS PHX OAK DEN RNO BUR SNA

Wneast wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

I'm hoping for more connecting-the-dots this year, especially out of BOI and GEG. But I'm also hoping for a couple of new links to smaller CA communities like ACV and BFL.

I would agree with you more connecting of the dots from BOI and GEG… BOI so likely to gain more if so though

LAXBUR wrote:

Wneast wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

I'm hoping for more connecting-the-dots this year, especially out of BOI and GEG. But I'm also hoping for a couple of new links to smaller CA communities like ACV and BFL.

I would agree with you more connecting of the dots from BOI and GEG… BOI so likely to gain more if so though

SJC-GEG is ending this month it looks like.

32andBelow wrote:

It would be nice if they tried some triangle routings on their Hawaii flights. They really don’t have a good inter island solution for people that want to go to different islands, Or switch islands between their trips. It sucks that they don’t have relationship with Hawaiian. If you take ANCHNL for example your options can be pretty bleak.

MIflyer12 wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

I'm hoping for more connecting-the-dots this year, especially out of BOI and GEG. But I'm also hoping for a couple of new links to smaller CA communities like ACV and BFL.

Is AS getting any more E75s this year (or expanding the SkyWest contract) to do that sort of thing in 2022?

FATFlyer wrote:

MIflyer12 wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

I'm hoping for more connecting-the-dots this year, especially out of BOI and GEG. But I'm also hoping for a couple of new links to smaller CA communities like ACV and BFL.

Is AS getting any more E75s this year (or expanding the SkyWest contract) to do that sort of thing in 2022?

OO has 8 175s arriving in 2022 for AS.

QX has 5 arriving in 2022 and 4 arriving in 2023.

jeffh747 wrote:

I had a couple transcon flights booked with AS this month booked on the 7M9s that have been changed to the 739ER/738. Noticed they removed the MAX from a whole lot of other flights this month as well. A little disappointed as I was looking forward to my first ride on the MAX but of course these things happen. Does anyone know why they have been removed from these transcon flights? Late deliveries possibly?

32andBelow wrote:

jeffh747 wrote:

I had a couple transcon flights booked with AS this month booked on the 7M9s that have been changed to the 739ER/738. Noticed they removed the MAX from a whole lot of other flights this month as well. A little disappointed as I was looking forward to my first ride on the MAX but of course these things happen. Does anyone know why they have been removed from these transcon flights? Late deliveries possibly?

Alaska has been known to put bigger planes where they can sell more sets so it’s possible they’re just swapping them are ours. I’ve noticed a lot more going to ANC all of a sudden. If it’s close in then might have been putting bigger planes on routes to clean up this winter storm mess

sfojvjets wrote:

LAXBUR wrote:

Wneast wrote:

I would agree with you more connecting of the dots from BOI and GEG… BOI so likely to gain more if so though

SJC-GEG is ending this month it looks like.

Yep. Although it's not all bad since SFO-GEG gains extra frequencies.

I'm still waiting for AS to re-add SFO-KOA/LIH...

Cardude2 wrote:

sfojvjets wrote:

LAXBUR wrote:

SJC-GEG is ending this month it looks like.

Yep. Although it's not all bad since SFO-GEG gains extra frequencies.

I'm still waiting for AS to re-add SFO-KOA/LIH...

It seems as is pushing more out of SFO and downsizing at OAK and even SJC. It’s becoming a serious hub

wedgetail737 wrote:

Cardude2 wrote:

sfojvjets wrote:

Yep. Although it's not all bad since SFO-GEG gains extra frequencies.

I'm still waiting for AS to re-add SFO-KOA/LIH...

It seems as is pushing more out of SFO and downsizing at OAK and even SJC. It’s becoming a serious hub

They should make SFO a serious hub considering how many gates they have there.

wedgetail737 wrote:

32andBelow wrote:

jeffh747 wrote:

I had a couple transcon flights booked with AS this month booked on the 7M9s that have been changed to the 739ER/738. Noticed they removed the MAX from a whole lot of other flights this month as well. A little disappointed as I was looking forward to my first ride on the MAX but of course these things happen. Does anyone know why they have been removed from these transcon flights? Late deliveries possibly?

Alaska has been known to put bigger planes where they can sell more sets so it’s possible they’re just swapping them are ours. I’ve noticed a lot more going to ANC all of a sudden. If it’s close in then might have been putting bigger planes on routes to clean up this winter storm mess

I don't there is an appreciable difference the 737 MAX 9 and the 737-900/-900ER, other than the current numbers of them. It will take a while for AS to get the number of MAX 9's to a level where they can have widespread use.

I wonder if AS will convert any of their MAX 9 orders to either MAX 10's or MAX 7's.

lhpdx wrote:

I wonder if AS plans to return PDX to a regional hub again???

gunsontheroof wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

32andBelow wrote:

Alaska has been known to put bigger planes where they can sell more sets so it’s possible they’re just swapping them are ours. I’ve noticed a lot more going to ANC all of a sudden. If it’s close in then might have been putting bigger planes on routes to clean up this winter storm mess

I don't there is an appreciable difference the 737 MAX 9 and the 737-900/-900ER, other than the current numbers of them. It will take a while for AS to get the number of MAX 9's to a level where they can have widespread use.

I wonder if AS will convert any of their MAX 9 orders to either MAX 10's or MAX 7's.

I could see them switching some orders over to MAX 10s, but I doubt they'll go for the MAX 7, though I'd love to be proven wrong. My recollection might be incorrect, but I thought that the only reason the pax -700s are still around is because AS owns them outright, the leased frames having been returned.

Cardude2 wrote:

gunsontheroof wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

I don't there is an appreciable difference the 737 MAX 9 and the 737-900/-900ER, other than the current numbers of them. It will take a while for AS to get the number of MAX 9's to a level where they can have widespread use.

I wonder if AS will convert any of their MAX 9 orders to either MAX 10's or MAX 7's.

I could see them switching some orders over to MAX 10s, but I doubt they'll go for the MAX 7, though I'd love to be proven wrong. My recollection might be incorrect, but I thought that the only reason the pax -700s are still around is because AS owns them outright, the leased frames having been returned.

and its looking like they will be replaced with e175's and converted to cargo

wedgetail737 wrote:

I would be surprised if AS adds any flights or destinations out of OAK, since they got rid of ALL HI flights and reduced frequency to both PDX and SEA. OAK is pretty low on Alaska's list.

gunsontheroof wrote:

Cardude2 wrote:

gunsontheroof wrote:

I could see them switching some orders over to MAX 10s, but I doubt they'll go for the MAX 7, though I'd love to be proven wrong. My recollection might be incorrect, but I thought that the only reason the pax -700s are still around is because AS owns them outright, the leased frames having been returned.

and its looking like they will be replaced with e175's and converted to cargo

That wouldn't surprise me. The -700s seem to serve well as combis and the 175s can handle any route AS seems to put the pax -700s on unless I'm missing a long/thin route somewhere. Is there any Intel on AS plans for expanding dedicated freight ops with converted -700s?

theAviationGeek wrote:

Any thoughts on AS’ operations from DAL? I know that they dropped several VX markets during/after the merger; however, now that they are with oneWorld, would it make any sense to add 1 or 2 destinations from DAL that AS could fly allowing a oneWorld code?

It appears AS has managed to hold solid load factors from DAL with the cities *currently* served (obviously there’s some that have flopped in the past), it just seems like it could be a good time to test the waters and see what sticks — adding additional oneWorld presence to the local market.

theAviationGeek wrote:

I know there is a lot of lift between the entire DFW/DAL market and DEN, but do you think AS could jump into it from DAL?

DaCubbyBearBar wrote:

Wneast wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

I'm hoping for more connecting-the-dots this year, especially out of BOI and GEG. But I'm also hoping for a couple of new links to smaller CA communities like ACV and BFL.

I would agree with you more connecting of the dots from BOI and GEG… BOI so likely to gain more if so though

I look for AS to make a run at getting SWA to pull back in BOI. I look for BOI to add LAS PHX OAK DEN RNO BUR SNA

jbs2886 wrote:

Cardude2 wrote:

gunsontheroof wrote:

I could see them switching some orders over to MAX 10s, but I doubt they'll go for the MAX 7, though I'd love to be proven wrong. My recollection might be incorrect, but I thought that the only reason the pax -700s are still around is because AS owns them outright, the leased frames having been returned.

and its looking like they will be replaced with e175's and converted to cargo

Source for “it’s looking”? Or are you speculating. I haven’t seen any indication AS intends to convert its remaining 737-700s.

gunsontheroof wrote:

Cardude2 wrote:

gunsontheroof wrote:

I could see them switching some orders over to MAX 10s, but I doubt they'll go for the MAX 7, though I'd love to be proven wrong. My recollection might be incorrect, but I thought that the only reason the pax -700s are still around is because AS owns them outright, the leased frames having been returned.

and its looking like they will be replaced with e175's and converted to cargo

That wouldn't surprise me. The -700s seem to serve well as combis and the 175s can handle any route AS seems to put the pax -700s on unless I'm missing a long/thin route somewhere. Is there any Intel on AS plans for expanding dedicated freight ops with converted -700s?

jbs2886 wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

jbs2886 wrote:

Source for “it’s looking”? Or are you speculating. I haven’t seen any indication AS intends to convert its remaining 737-700s.

Yes...no source...it's just my humbled opinion and speculation. Their -700's are getting pretty old and some of the markets like BRW or OTZ are too small of their -900's or MAX 9's. Also, I think the E-175's are too small for these markets. But, yes, all speculation.

I think you’re confusing who I was responding to. I was asking cardude for a source for more freighter conversions of 737-700 fleet.

ucdtim17 wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

I would be surprised if AS adds any flights or destinations out of OAK, since they got rid of ALL HI flights and reduced frequency to both PDX and SEA. OAK is pretty low on Alaska's list.

It’s early, and will likely change, but OAK-SEA is up to 6x daily this summer. First real increase in service for AS at OAK since starting Hawaii ten years ago.

wedgetail737 wrote:

gunsontheroof wrote:

Cardude2 wrote:

and its looking like they will be replaced with e175's and converted to cargo

That wouldn't surprise me. The -700s seem to serve well as combis and the 175s can handle any route AS seems to put the pax -700s on unless I'm missing a long/thin route somewhere. Is there any Intel on AS plans for expanding dedicated freight ops with converted -700s?

The -700's fly only in either freighter configuration or the full-pax configuration. AS doesn't want -700 Combis because the FAA won't allow for movable bulkheads.

usxguy wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

gunsontheroof wrote:

That wouldn't surprise me. The -700s seem to serve well as combis and the 175s can handle any route AS seems to put the pax -700s on unless I'm missing a long/thin route somewhere. Is there any Intel on AS plans for expanding dedicated freight ops with converted -700s?

The -700's fly only in either freighter configuration or the full-pax configuration. AS doesn't want -700 Combis because the FAA won't allow for movable bulkheads.

I think there might be more. The -400 combis didn't have moveable bulkheads, only the pigs.

jbs2886 wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

jbs2886 wrote:

Source for “it’s looking”? Or are you speculating. I haven’t seen any indication AS intends to convert its remaining 737-700s.

Yes...no source...it's just my humbled opinion and speculation. Their -700's are getting pretty old and some of the markets like BRW or OTZ are too small of their -900's or MAX 9's. Also, I think the E-175's are too small for these markets. But, yes, all speculation.

I think you’re confusing who I was responding to. I was asking cardude for a source for more freighter conversions of 737-700 fleet.

ytib wrote:

Right now the SE Alaska EAS cities are bid through April 2023 with the 700 (124 seats). In the past they would bid them with the 400 combi which had 72 seats. They will need to have some plan moving forward on those routes (Cordova, Yakutat, Petersburg and Wrangell year-round, and Gustavus in the summer) if they do phase out the 700 in the future. Occasionally these routes are upgauged at Alaska's cost but that wouldn't be a long term plan in the Southeast.

The only other EAS route they have is Adak which runs through September 2023 with the 700.
https://www.transportation.gov/office-p ... ce-reports

Cardude2 wrote:

jbs2886 wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

Yes...no source...it's just my humbled opinion and speculation. Their -700's are getting pretty old and some of the markets like BRW or OTZ are too small of their -900's or MAX 9's. Also, I think the E-175's are too small for these markets. But, yes, all speculation.

I think you’re confusing who I was responding to. I was asking cardude for a source for more freighter conversions of 737-700 fleet.

There is no source but wedge tail is right those planes need replacing very shortly as they’re getting old with mechanical problems for pax use. It just seems like that’s what they’re gonna do because otherwise there’s absolutely no reason for as to put the E175 in Alaska Other than replacement along with expansion. 737 700 in Alaska’s fleet is a black sheep. They only use them in Alaska because everywhere else they’re not great for their use case, that’s why they returned all those leases of 737 700s and a319’s very quickly.

jbs2886 wrote:

Cardude2 wrote:

jbs2886 wrote:

I think you’re confusing who I was responding to. I was asking cardude for a source for more freighter conversions of 737-700 fleet.

There is no source but wedge tail is right those planes need replacing very shortly as they’re getting old with mechanical problems for pax use. It just seems like that’s what they’re gonna do because otherwise there’s absolutely no reason for as to put the E175 in Alaska Other than replacement along with expansion. 737 700 in Alaska’s fleet is a black sheep. They only use them in Alaska because everywhere else they’re not great for their use case, that’s why they returned all those leases of 737 700s and a319’s very quickly.

Why does it seem like they’re gonna convert more aircraft to freighter versus just retire them? You’re making a lot of broad assumptions and speculating but stating as fact.