Air Cargo (non Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2022

DLNZ · Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:53 pm

CX747 wrote:
It was a good day boys. I got to help out, in a small way, on DC-8F operations with Samaritan's Purse. Can't wait to assist again.

Checking in with Aerotranscargo. The 747 fleet with no home, no unified livery but cargo to get hauled in the AM hours of the morning. Like when it reads 02:37 and the Mountain Dew from a field in a different continent than what you are over, and a time zone or two back from where you fly, is finished.

ER-BBC, delivered factory fresh in 1991 to Air Canada. It and G-UNET followed similar paths as sisterships. ER-BBC joined Aerotranscargo in Oct 2020 and currently wears the sharp white and red "corporate" identity of the carrier.

ER-BBC: Calls LEJ in Germany home these days. Normally sitting at the field for a few days between Europe-Stans-China-Stans-Europe runs. It rotated out of LEJ on the 19th at 00:59 and headed for BUD. From there it traveled through Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan, before smoking down in CGO. Out of CGO today, it clocked in a CGO-NQZ-BUD jaunt and looks set to conduct a BUD-LEJ sector in the next few hours.

Awesome, well done that man. A great ship and a great organisation.

In other jumbo news, the recently delivered 'My Freighter' 742F lit up her transponder at TAS yesterday but didn't go anywhere, still trading as N287DE (to be UK47088). Perhaps her EIS isn't far away. Remember this is the mob who said publicly of their desire to acquire another handful of freighters. One to watch going into 2023.

Do the Dew!

jreeves96 · Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:07 am

HPRamper wrote:
jreeves96 wrote:
Peak Season flying has started over here at 'Giant'

Currently, as of Nov 20th, we have two 744s operating for UPS on SDF/IAH and SDF/EWR. Should pick up more routes the closer we get to Christmas.

As for FedEx, only two 744s this year. But I don't know if I would consider it peak flying since these two aircraft have been doing MEM/SJU and MEM/HNL flights since the summer.

I wouldn't really consider them peak flying. I wouldn't be surprised to see FX utilize no wet-leases this peak. We have a glut of capacity and soft volume.

Didn't FedEx just send a bunch of aircraft to Victorville and report a loss on the quarter or am I thinking of someone else? Wouldn't surprise me either to see them be completely independent this peak.

VCVSpotter · Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:26 am

jreeves96 wrote:
HPRamper wrote:
jreeves96 wrote:
Peak Season flying has started over here at 'Giant'

Currently, as of Nov 20th, we have two 744s operating for UPS on SDF/IAH and SDF/EWR. Should pick up more routes the closer we get to Christmas.

As for FedEx, only two 744s this year. But I don't know if I would consider it peak flying since these two aircraft have been doing MEM/SJU and MEM/HNL flights since the summer.

I wouldn't really consider them peak flying. I wouldn't be surprised to see FX utilize no wet-leases this peak. We have a glut of capacity and soft volume.

Didn't FedEx just send a bunch of aircraft to Victorville and report a loss on the quarter or am I thinking of someone else? Wouldn't surprise me either to see them be completely independent this peak.

Yup. "The planes being parked are mostly older aircraft with low ownership costs. Not flying them defers the next major maintenance event, saving money, Lenz said. “It’s an operationally and financially flexible way to manage capacity.”"

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/fedex ... mand-wanes

Moosefire · Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:27 pm

jreeves96 wrote:
HPRamper wrote:
jreeves96 wrote:
Peak Season flying has started over here at 'Giant'

Currently, as of Nov 20th, we have two 744s operating for UPS on SDF/IAH and SDF/EWR. Should pick up more routes the closer we get to Christmas.

As for FedEx, only two 744s this year. But I don't know if I would consider it peak flying since these two aircraft have been doing MEM/SJU and MEM/HNL flights since the summer.

I wouldn't really consider them peak flying. I wouldn't be surprised to see FX utilize no wet-leases this peak. We have a glut of capacity and soft volume.

Didn't FedEx just send a bunch of aircraft to Victorville and report a loss on the quarter or am I thinking of someone else? Wouldn't surprise me either to see them be completely independent this peak.

Nearly correct, not a quarterly loss but did miss revenue estimates.

LH982 · Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:48 am

Not seen it mentioned, but exTUI 763 G-OBYH was converted at SIN and is now TF-ISH. At SNN for painting for Iceair

stretch8 · Fri Nov 25, 2022 5:18 pm

N288CM CAM B763 is enroute ILN-HNL, then 2GUM & XSP for BCF conversion. cheers!

CX747 · Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:29 pm

Atlas Air has taken delivery of Boeig 777F N707GT. N707GT, will be operated on behalf of MSC Air Cargo. It is the first of four 777Fs that MSC Air Cargo will operate via a long term wet-lease agreement with Giant.

I have to say I love the tail number. A little old school Boeing action, mixed with the latest and greatest from Everett.

TS-IOR · Sat Nov 26, 2022 7:06 pm

Express Air Cargo B737-300F TS-ICB finally got painted into the airline livery at Atitech, NAP after operating for 5 years + with untitled Texel Air colors. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... tid=RUbZ1f

CarbonFibre · Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:13 pm

Icelandair Cargo 767 TF-ISH now painted.

https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewph ... icid=11224

jbs2886 · Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:02 pm

CarbonFibre wrote:
Icelandair Cargo 767 TF-ISH now painted.

https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewph ... icid=11224

That's bold...but I kind of like it.

stretch8 · Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:56 pm

After 2 days at HNL, N288CM CAM B763 is enroute HNL-GUM. cheers!

CX747 · Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:15 am

jbs2886 wrote:
CarbonFibre wrote:
Icelandair Cargo 767 TF-ISH now painted.

https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewph ... icid=11224

That's bold...but I kind of like it.

Agreed. I wouldn't have chosen those colors but it stands out nicely.

CX747 · Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:41 am

Now we get to the Blue Blooded, Upper Crust Society, only proper factory built, nose loading 747-400F in Aerotranscargo's fleet. ER-BBJ...His reputation proceeds him......

Originally delivered from Everett to Singapore International Airlines in Sept 1998. It worked just shy of 19 years with SIA before joining Aerotranscargo in April 2017. Currently painted in the house colors of white and sharp red. He no longer plies the routes with the dignity of a Singapore based 747F but cobbles together back of the clock work for his carrier without a home.

ER-BBJ: Living the life of a Nomad currently but also visiting Budapest like fellow Aero 747s. In the last several days, the Blue Blood has operated an eclectic MAD-HKG-DEL-HKG-SHJ-BUD-NVI-CGO. Note the usage of Budapest as with others in his clan. With the Blue Blood continuing to focus in the East, there might be a potential of visiting it's old home plate of SIN. All the cool kids, their money, cargo and freedom trade their now, instead of Kowloon Bay's follow on.

Spacepope · Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:29 pm

Skyliner is reporting the redelivery of Air Canada 767-333F C-GHLV after conversion at TLV today.

Spacepope · Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:55 pm

FedEx MD-10 in Calgary had a #1 engine fire on startup. Crew evacuated via slides. https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/301913

747classic · Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:01 pm

Spacepope wrote:
FedEx MD-10 in Calgary had a #1 engine fire on startup. Crew evacuated via slides. https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/301913

The article is not very clear, no fire warning at the flightdeck and visible flames from the engine during/after startingis indicates a tailpipe fire.
QRH: fuel selector off, motoring the engine with the starter. .
Because the MD10-30F has non FADEC CF6-50C2 engines, normally the ground crew must observe all engines during starting, until all three are stabilized in ground idle and must be in contact with the flightdeck

jetblueguy22 · Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:00 pm

747classic wrote:
Spacepope wrote:
FedEx MD-10 in Calgary had a #1 engine fire on startup. Crew evacuated via slides. https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/301913

The article is not very clear, no fire warning at the flightdeck and visible flames from the engine during/after startingis indicates a tailpipe fire.
QRH: fuel selector off, motoring the engine with the starter. .
Because the MD10-30F has non FADEC CF6-50C2 engines, normally the ground crew must observe all engines during starting, until all three are stabilized in ground idle and must be in contact with the flightdeck

Does FX push all flights with mechanics on the headset like 5X?

jjbiv · Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:25 am

jetblueguy22 wrote:
747classic wrote:
Spacepope wrote:
FedEx MD-10 in Calgary had a #1 engine fire on startup. Crew evacuated via slides. https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/301913

The article is not very clear, no fire warning at the flightdeck and visible flames from the engine during/after startingis indicates a tailpipe fire.
QRH: fuel selector off, motoring the engine with the starter. .
Because the MD10-30F has non FADEC CF6-50C2 engines, normally the ground crew must observe all engines during starting, until all three are stabilized in ground idle and must be in contact with the flightdeck

Does FX push all flights with mechanics on the headset like 5X?

Yes, at least at the hubs they used to. I assume at the outstations with mx they do the same.

Pantonov22 · Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:32 pm

Sporty landing of 9H-MSK of Mesk Air in EBOS on the 23th of November:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-GbyOg ... ckvereecke

Spacepope · Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:19 pm

Pantonov22 wrote:
Sporty landing of 9H-MSK of Mesk Air in EBOS on the 23th of November:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-GbyOg ... ckvereecke

Yeesh. Almost put those Pratt pods in the dirt. Glad it worked itself on out.

wjcandee · Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:51 pm

Spacepope wrote:
Pantonov22 wrote:
Sporty landing of 9H-MSK of Mesk Air in EBOS on the 23th of November:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-GbyOg ... ckvereecke

Yeesh. Almost put those Pratt pods in the dirt. Glad it worked itself on out.

The comments suggest that they took out a couple of light fixtures and damaged the underside of one of the pods. Not really apparent on the video.

Spacepope · Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:08 pm

Skyliner reports former Alaska and CO Mike 722F N296AS has escaped IGM for Opa Locka. I really hope it's not the last flight. It's now registered as N86425.

Newark727 · Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:43 pm

Spacepope wrote:
Skyliner reports former Alaska and CO Mike 722F N296AS has escaped IGM for Opa Locka. I really hope it's not the last flight.

Same! Long live the 727!

DL757NYC · Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:52 pm

DLNZ wrote:
CX747 wrote:
It was a good day boys. I got to help out, in a small way, on DC-8F operations with Samaritan's Purse. Can't wait to assist again.

Checking in with Aerotranscargo. The 747 fleet with no home, no unified livery but cargo to get hauled in the AM hours of the morning. Like when it reads 02:37 and the Mountain Dew from a field in a different continent than what you are over, and a time zone or two back from where you fly, is finished.

ER-BBC, delivered factory fresh in 1991 to Air Canada. It and G-UNET followed similar paths as sisterships. ER-BBC joined Aerotranscargo in Oct 2020 and currently wears the sharp white and red "corporate" identity of the carrier.

ER-BBC: Calls LEJ in Germany home these days. Normally sitting at the field for a few days between Europe-Stans-China-Stans-Europe runs. It rotated out of LEJ on the 19th at 00:59 and headed for BUD. From there it traveled through Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan, before smoking down in CGO. Out of CGO today, it clocked in a CGO-NQZ-BUD jaunt and looks set to conduct a BUD-LEJ sector in the next few hours.

Awesome, well done that man. A great ship and a great organisation.

In other jumbo news, the recently delivered 'My Freighter' 742F lit up her transponder at TAS yesterday but didn't go anywhere, still trading as N287DE (to be UK47088). Perhaps her EIS isn't far away. Remember this is the mob who said publicly of their desire to acquire another handful of freighters. One to watch going into 2023.

Do the Dew!

Since they are dragging 742’s that have been sitting for 10 years. I’d look at the old NW cargo birds. They were 1988 vintage the last year before the line went to the -400 Even the old 200F had impressive cargo weight capacity some around 200 thousand pounds. It’s a shame production is ending. Delayed to 2023. Not bad 53 years.

CX Flyboy · Fri Dec 02, 2022 5:30 am

Spacepope wrote:
Pantonov22 wrote:
Sporty landing of 9H-MSK of Mesk Air in EBOS on the 23th of November:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-GbyOg ... ckvereecke

Yeesh. Almost put those Pratt pods in the dirt. Glad it worked itself on out.

Apparently the nacelle did actually contact the ground but minor damage only.

wjcandee · Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:03 am

CX Flyboy wrote:
Spacepope wrote:
Pantonov22 wrote:
Sporty landing of 9H-MSK of Mesk Air in EBOS on the 23th of November:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-GbyOg ... ckvereecke

Yeesh. Almost put those Pratt pods in the dirt. Glad it worked itself on out.

Apparently the nacelle did actually contact the ground but minor damage only.

I thought it contacted some lights.

CX Flyboy · Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:23 am

wjcandee wrote:
CX Flyboy wrote:
Spacepope wrote:

Yeesh. Almost put those Pratt pods in the dirt. Glad it worked itself on out.

Apparently the nacelle did actually contact the ground but minor damage only.

I thought it contacted some lights.

Ah yes sorry, lights, not the ground!

Spacepope · Sat Dec 03, 2022 4:58 am

CX Flyboy wrote:
wjcandee wrote:
CX Flyboy wrote:

Apparently the nacelle did actually contact the ground but minor damage only.

I thought it contacted some lights.

Ah yes sorry, lights, not the ground!

Update https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oTTxuQ8G8zQ

CX747 · Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:19 pm

Spacepope wrote:
CX Flyboy wrote:
wjcandee wrote:

I thought it contacted some lights.

Ah yes sorry, lights, not the ground!

Update https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oTTxuQ8G8zQ

Glad to see it back in action. Every time I see Sutter's creation, I fall in love with it all over again.

Spacepope · Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:45 pm

Skyliner reports B738 l/n 3637 is headed to freighter conversion for ASL Airlines. Is this the highest line number conversion so far?

TUSAA · Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:25 pm

Interjet West/Sierra West 737-3TOSF N578TR made a cargo run into DAL from TOL yesterday 12/3. Wearing basic Atlantic West colors with no titles.

MCOflyer · Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:17 am

A National airlines 747 freighter carrying a rocket from Seoul Incheon to Brazil. N936CA was the bird that flew the hybrid rocket. This is per simple flying. For those that do not know, 936CA is the former 744 tanker. Previously flown by Japan airlines and evergreen.

wjcandee · Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:30 am

MCOflyer wrote:
A National airlines 747 freighter carrying a rocket from Seoul Incheon to Brazil. N936CA was the bird that flew the hybrid rocket. This is per simple flying. For those that do not know, 936CA is the former 744 tanker. Previously flown by Japan airlines and evergreen.

Interesting that it flew Eastbound. ICN-DWC-SLZ.

Spacepope · Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:55 pm

wjcandee wrote:
MCOflyer wrote:
A National airlines 747 freighter carrying a rocket from Seoul Incheon to Brazil. N936CA was the bird that flew the hybrid rocket. This is per simple flying. For those that do not know, 936CA is the former 744 tanker. Previously flown by Japan airlines and evergreen.

Interesting that it flew Eastbound. ICN-DWC-SLZ.

Speaking of National, I was watching Youtube and saw a Orlando spotter's film that had both of the "new" 744s in it again. One is still a white tail and parked on National's ramp, but the second that is already sporting National titles and tail paint is now towed over to and parked in front of the United hangars. She may be getting into service soon.

N626AA · Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:25 pm

Searched all over a.net and the rest of the web for answers before coming here to ask, and forgive me if it's right in front of me...

Anyone know of when FedEx is going to retire their last MD-10-30? Quite a bit of info on their last 10-10 retirement but nothing about the 30 except that it's going to be be very soon.

Any info or links much appreciated.

MO11 · Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:19 pm

N626AA wrote:
Searched all over a.net and the rest of the web for answers before coming here to ask, and forgive me if it's right in front of me...

Anyone know of when FedEx is going to retire their last MD-10-30? Quite a bit of info on their last 10-10 retirement but nothing about the 30 except that it's going to be be very soon.

Any info or links much appreciated.

https://s21.q4cdn.com/665674268/files/doc_financials/2023/q1/FedEx-Q1-FY23-Stat-Book-9.23.22.pdf

Go to page 15 (page 18 on your pdf reader). The fiscal year ends May 31.

HPRamper · Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:21 am

MO11 wrote:
N626AA wrote:
Searched all over a.net and the rest of the web for answers before coming here to ask, and forgive me if it's right in front of me...

Anyone know of when FedEx is going to retire their last MD-10-30? Quite a bit of info on their last 10-10 retirement but nothing about the 30 except that it's going to be be very soon.

Any info or links much appreciated.

https://s21.q4cdn.com/665674268/files/doc_financials/2023/q1/FedEx-Q1-FY23-Stat-Book-9.23.22.pdf

Go to page 15 (page 18 on your pdf reader). The fiscal year ends May 31.

We are mid-FY23. The plan is for all the 10s to be retired on December 31.

UA444 · Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:48 am

N306FE ferried back to MEM from YUL yesterday. Probably no damage.

Spacepope · Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:14 am

UA444 wrote:
N306FE ferried back to MEM from YUL yesterday. Probably no damage.

How'd it get from YYC to YUL?

747classic · Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:31 am

UA444 wrote:
N306FE ferried back to MEM from YUL yesterday. Probably no damage.

N306FE ferried YYC-MEM at December 03th, see: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N30 ... /CYYC/KMEM

At December 05th , N306FE was back in (peak)action.

HPRamper · Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:09 am

N617FE, an 11F took a hard strike below the aft bulk compartment door in MEM and has been down since 11/22 with a will-advise of 12/13. Currently in heavy mx and getting cannibalized parts, and in danger of missing the majority of peak at this point.

Spacepope · Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:12 pm

HPRamper wrote:
N617FE, an 11F took a hard strike below the aft bulk compartment door in MEM and has been down since 11/22 with a will-advise of 12/13. Currently in heavy mx and getting cannibalized parts, and in danger of missing the majority of peak at this point.

Tailstrike or did someone hit it with a loader?

HPRamper · Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:38 pm

Spacepope wrote:
HPRamper wrote:
N617FE, an 11F took a hard strike below the aft bulk compartment door in MEM and has been down since 11/22 with a will-advise of 12/13. Currently in heavy mx and getting cannibalized parts, and in danger of missing the majority of peak at this point.

Tailstrike or did someone hit it with a loader?

Either a loader strike or - something becoming very common - someone drove a container under the tail section and impacted the aircraft with it. More often than not, the full story never comes out, because the person who causes the damage drives away without reporting it and the damage is found upon later inspection.

Case in point, a 757 also down at IND since 11/30 with "found" 14-inch scratch and skin puncture damage on the lower aft fuselage.

jjbiv · Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:02 am

That would have to be a tall container to reach anywhere close to the bulk compartment door on an MD-11.

Amazing how much damage is "found" and not reported considering it must leave a mark on the container, too. It can't be too hard to figure out who pulled the container or review the CCTV images to see what happened. Pretty risky to just let it ride and not report the incident. Also driving under parts of an aircraft is a big no-no.

HPRamper · Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:17 am

jjbiv wrote:
That would have to be a tall container to reach anywhere close to the bulk compartment door on an MD-11.

Amazing how much damage is "found" and not reported considering it must leave a mark on the container, too. It can't be too hard to figure out who pulled the container or review the CCTV images to see what happened. Pretty risky to just let it ride and not report the incident. Also driving under parts of an aircraft is a big no-no.

An AMJ or AAD on a dolly can reach the spot easily.
Things are just different from what they used to be. A lot of employees care very little about the consequences of their actions.

mercure1 · Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:24 pm

MSC announced Liege Belgium will be its Europe freigher base.

Initial routes will connect Liege with Indianapolis and Mexico City four times weekly with focus on transportation of pharmaceutical products and perishable goods.

Further routes will be operated to China including a round-the-world service

https://www.aircargonews.net/airlines/f ... b-flights/

747classic · Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:39 am

HPRamper wrote:
Spacepope wrote:
HPRamper wrote:
N617FE, an 11F took a hard strike below the aft bulk compartment door in MEM and has been down since 11/22 with a will-advise of 12/13. Currently in heavy mx and getting cannibalized parts, and in danger of missing the majority of peak at this point.

Tailstrike or did someone hit it with a loader?

Either a loader strike or - something becoming very common - someone drove a container under the tail section and impacted the aircraft with it. More often than not, the full story never comes out, because the person who causes the damage drives away without reporting it and the damage is found upon later inspection.

Case in point, a 757 also down at IND since 11/30 with "found" 14-inch scratch and skin puncture damage on the lower aft fuselage.

I found the issue with N617FE already in the FAA Service Difficulty Reporting System (SDRS), see : https://sdrs.faa.gov/Query.aspx and fill in "617FE", click " Run Query" and look for 2022 entries
Found FDEA202211222860, Difficulty Date 11/22/2022, Submission Date 11/30/2022
HUB STRIKE BELOW AFT BULK CARGO DOOR, STRUCTURE DAMAGED

Robert16627 · Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:48 am

D-ACLX was delivered to Kalitta Charters II yesterday in Oscoda who previously flew for Cargologic and N732CK was repainted to the same colors as N336CK.

Spacepope · Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:42 pm

Looks like Aeronaves is picking up another DC-9-30F, this time N45NA, former National Nuclear Security Administration, so should have stupid low hours even with being a 1969 build. Source: Skyliner https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=4

HeavyHauler · Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:01 pm

Rumour has it, Longtail aviation’s new b757F operation, VP-BCX has been cancelled..

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