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RTWin10
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:38 pm

AB330 wrote:
It seem Stanley is inching closer will soon go on a Swiss challege question is will the national goverment support? Considering the background of the current DOTr there is a good chance this will be approved swiftly. But lets see if there will be backclash from RSA?

https://www.bworldonline.com/top-storie ... t-in-sept/


According to the article, no group participated in the Swiss challenge which is why the contract will be awarded next month.

Very curious how this will all play out…could the national government intervene?
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:28 am

Btw, Bulacan Airport is far from Taal or Pinatubo.

What I mean is, it can get affected, but not as bad as the other airports.

Another advantage of the Bulacan Airport is the expressway.

The plan for Sangley is to have the expressway connected to Coastal Road, one big u-turn just to get to Sangley Airport.

Sangley is also too near to NAIA. The latter just celebrted the opening of a new LTP hangar and is far from the end of its service.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:40 am

Considering the close ties between both the governor and congressman with the current administration and helping Junior win the election.

There is a chance this project will push through or advanced regardless of our opinions weither we agree or disagreed! Just like RSA who push hard for his Bulacan pet project despite the criticism and disagreement about the location as a sucessor to MNL/RPLL.

As for the new hanger it will take years or decades for a sucessor for MNL/RPLL to open so in the short term expanding CRK and connectivity with it along with capacity expansion of the current MNL should still cotinue especially when demand continues to surge especially for domestic and regional flying in asia which could recover in 2-3 years from now!
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Sun Aug 28, 2022 7:36 am

RTWin10 wrote:
AB330 wrote:
It seem Stanley is inching closer will soon go on a Swiss challege question is will the national goverment support? Considering the background of the current DOTr there is a good chance this will be approved swiftly. But lets see if there will be backclash from RSA?

https://www.bworldonline.com/top-storie ... t-in-sept/


According to the article, no group participated in the Swiss challenge which is why the contract will be awarded next month.

Very curious how this will all play out…could the national government intervene?




1. Most likely, PAL will choose to be based in Cavite.

2. NAIA can continue to operate, but with lesser traffic eg turboprop ops being relocated somewhere else. MRO businesses most likely will continue at NAIA.

3. The govt should identify what will be the use of NAIA.
Will it be an airport for MRO and cargo like Essendon Aiport near Melbourne Airport? Like Don Mueang Airport, catering to LCC’s? Or like Seoul Gimpo Airport, for regional and domestic flights?

4. The govt can offer more slots (no restrictions) at the new airports in Cavite and Bulacan. They have done this in other local airports before. Ala open-skies.

5. The worst decision the govt can do is to close NAIA completely after the 2 airports become operational.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:09 am

PAL drops (more than 10 spots) in Skytrax ranking

Probably the densification of cabin isn’t well-received by Skytrax!
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Sun Aug 28, 2022 2:03 pm

Bobby27ph wrote:
PAL drops (more than 10 spots) in Skytrax ranking

Probably the densification of cabin isn’t well-received by Skytrax!


Personally I think the reason why PAL ranking droping is due to dispatch issues which effects frequency and schedules which have been suffering due to the reduces fleet sized especially long-haul aircraft.

PAL hasn't started densificing there A330 and A350 yet. And will start with there A320s first since there seating contract was awarded recently and no word for the A330 and A350 at this time.
 
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Devilfish
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:05 pm

Bobby27ph wrote:
The only expansion feasible involves a midfield concourse, second and third terminals connected like forming a U-shape (similar to Changi).

Something similar to this perchance...albeit with more modern lines?..... :eyepopping:

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It's in keeping with the engineered timber construction of the last two regional hubs in the country...fire and rain could be of some concern though! :scratchchin:


Bobby27ph wrote:
The ‘sun rays’ design is becoming unlikely if the masterplan is like this.

The semi spoke and hub configuration was probably meant to rally more support for the project rather than a genuine intent to implement it. :spin:
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:46 pm

The DOTr is planning to reopen BAG to commercial flights next year..... :airplane:

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... rcial.html

Quote:
"PAL earlier manifested intent to fly Manila-Loakan 5 times a week should airport reopens to the public using Q400 aircraft.

The Director General said the current passenger terminal cannot handle that number of people.

'And that is not the end of the problem for Loakan. We still have to contend with other airport facilities, such as navigation, drainage, runway safe areas, and the weather which could be problem for airlines,' Tamayo adds.

CAAP is looking to extend the length of the runway by at least 100 meters from the present 1,683 meters, and clear natural and man made obstructions along the airside.

'Its a safety concern. It would not be a problem if a small plane is used. But airline operators got bigger planes now.' says the CAAP head."



Pending airfield and terminal improvements, it seems only AirSWIFT has the right equipment to serve the route now...but would they fly their ATR42-600s there :?: Ordering or leasing new short-field ATR-42S in #211 may be too niche and prohibitive for the smaller carriers who might otherwise be interested.



From SkyscraperCity...latest photos of CRK T2..... :camera:

source: @Kyle Managa Chagwaten - 08/26/2022
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In connection to my comment about LTPI in #187, their recently completed hangar at NAIA could be busier in the months ahead doing the 'densification' work on some of PR's current aircraft..... :crowded:

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... angar.html


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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:24 am

Bobby27ph wrote:
Probably the densification of cabin isn’t well-received by Skytrax!

Maybe something else was not received? :mischievous:


RTWin10 wrote:
According to the article, no group participated in the Swiss challenge which is why the contract will be awarded next month.

Were the others worried about potential meager returns on their investments? :worried:


Bobby27ph wrote:
The plan for Sangley is to have the expressway connected to Coastal Road, one big u-turn just to get to Sangley Airport.

May not be too long of a backtrack if a causeway is built..... :arrow:

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Bobby27ph wrote:
1. Most likely, PAL will choose to be based in Cavite.

Especially as they're part of the consortium advocating for SGY and particularly if it emerges looking like this..... :wideeyed:

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Bobby27ph wrote:
2. NAIA can continue to operate, but with lesser traffic eg turboprop ops being relocated somewhere else. MRO businesses most likely will continue at NAIA.

It's likely that GenAv and turboprops would return to NAIA which could become a charter/cargo/maintenance hub for the near term ...in addition to being the PAF/PCG's headquarters should their operations be forced out of Sangley.


Bobby27ph wrote:
3. The govt should identify what will be the use of NAIA.

I still see converting the rest of NAIA into a "greener" :mrgreen: new National Government Center with research labs, health institutions and technological hub as the best future use of this national patrimony.


Bobby27ph wrote:
4. The govt can offer more slots (no restrictions) at the new airports in Cavite and Bulacan. They have done this in other local airports before. Ala open-skies.

So, MNL North and MNL South in relatively close proximity. The risk lies in having both airports cannibalizing each others' airline users and diluting the value of those slots. Now, for the billion dollar question :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: ...who will fund the enterprise and who is going to build SGY -- China :?:


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Bobby27ph
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Sep 01, 2022 4:58 pm

Has anyone thought yet of having a ferry service between Bulacan and Cavite airports?

Like Chek Lap Kok - Macau
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:58 pm

Bobby27ph wrote:
Has anyone thought yet of having a ferry service between Bulacan and Cavite airports?

Since neither gateway is up and running -- probably no one had.


Aboitiz Group is taking full ownership of MCIA for P25B.....

https://www.philstar.com/business/2022/ ... t-operator


source: @fretburner
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"A consortium that includes India's GMR Group is selling its business developing and operating the Philippines' second-largest airport for 25 billion pesos ($440.2 million), its Filipino partner announces Friday.

The consortium of GMR Group and the Philippines' Megawide Construction Corp. will sell its interests to operate the Mactan-Cebu International Airport to Aboitiz InfraCapital Inc., a unit of a family-owned conglomerate."


https://www.philstar.com/happens/884


Could we see Megawide redeploying the proceeds for NAIA's rehabilitation :?:
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:37 am

Bulacan and Cavite airports won’t cannibalize each other.

They are being built by consortiums and private entities, not a big risk to the govt.

Our local carriers are good in choping their slots, eg PAL wants to chope Cavite Airport as its base.

The population of Metro Manila is very big, we deserve to have multiple airports. PH population is 3x that of Malaysia’s!

Ticket prices will go down bec of having more options.

Smaller carriers like AirSwift can facilitate connecting flights for EK, QR passengers too!

Emirates and Qatar can finally unleash their flagship aircraft and deploy them to Manila.

And one of the major complaints at Manila airport - the lounges! Plaza Premium Lounge can open a franchise in Bulacan, while Marhaba can open one in Cavite! ;)

Cannibalization, competition etc are not all bad. It just means things are improving!
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:31 am

PAL has released the first version of the Winter Timetable effective 30 October on their website. Highlights are increases in service (as well as seasonal) and plenty of service resumptions to Mainland China and Korea. Other highlights will be included in this update, this is not a complete list.

International
No mentions of MNL-Heathrow/Perth/Seattle/Tel Aviv and CEB-LAX.
MNL-DPS v.v. 1x daily
MNL-BKK v.v. 3x Daily
MNL-PEK v.v. resumes 22 January, 6x weekly
MNL-BNE v.v. 5x weekly
MNL-CAN v.v. resumes 21 January, 1x daily
MNL-DOH v.v. temporary service increase, 1x daily from 5 November-20 December. 5x weekly other dates except 20-31 Dec, 6x weekly.
MNL-HKG 2x daily, increasing to 3x daily from 14 Dec
MNL-LAX v.v. seasonal service increase from 13 December-10 Jan. Additional 2x weekly service on top of 2x daily flights.
MNL-MFM v.v. resumes 21 January, 1x daily
MNL-JFK/YYZ v.v. listed non-stop both ways. Further revision possible
MNL-JJN v.v. resumes 21 January, 1x daily
MNL-NRT v.v. 2x daily
MNL-RUH v.v. 1x daily
MNL-SFO v.v. seasonal increase to 9x weekly from 29 Nov 22 to 10 Jan 23
MNL-ICN v.v. 2x daily
MNL-PVG resumes 21 January, 7x weekly
MNL-SYD v.v. 1x daily from 7 Dec (MNL dep)
MNL-TPE v.v. increases to 2x daily from 21 Jan 23, operates 7x weekly initially
MNL-WUH v.v. begins from 2 Nov 22-20 Jan 23, 1x weekly
MNL-XMN v.v. resumes 21 January, 7x weekly
CEB-NGO v.v. resumes, 4x weekly. 5x weekly from 7 Jan 23.
CEB-NRT v.v. 1x daily
CRK-ICN v.v. resumes 11 November
CRK-PUS v.v. begins 10 November

Domestic
MNL-BSO v.v. 1x daily
MNL-BCD v.v. 6x daily, all opb PALex
MNL-CGY v.v. 4x daily, all opb PALex
MNL-CEB v.v. 11x weekly. 10 flights opb PALex, 1 flight opb Mainline
MNL-DVO v.v. 8x daily. All opb PALex
MNL-GES v.v. remains Mainline operated. MNL-GES on 30 Oct operates as PR452 instead of PR453.
MNL-PPS v.v. 2x daily. All opb PALex
MNL-TAC v.v. 3x daily. All opb PALex
CEB-BCD v.v. increases to 3x daily from 1 Jan 23
CEB-MPH v.v. 2x daily from 1 Nov
CEB-DVO v.v. 3x daily
CEB-CGY v.v. returns to 4x daily
COT-TWT v.v. remains on the schedule
 
ZK-NBT
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:44 am

Philippine747 wrote:
PAL has released the first version of the Winter Timetable effective 30 October on their website. Highlights are increases in service (as well as seasonal) and plenty of service resumptions to Mainland China and Korea. Other highlights will be included in this update, this is not a complete list.

International
No mentions of MNL-Heathrow/Perth/Seattle/Tel Aviv and CEB-LAX.
MNL-DPS v.v. 1x daily
MNL-BKK v.v. 3x Daily
MNL-PEK v.v. resumes 22 January, 6x weekly
MNL-BNE v.v. 5x weekly
MNL-CAN v.v. resumes 21 January, 1x daily
MNL-DOH v.v. temporary service increase, 1x daily from 5 November-20 December. 5x weekly other dates except 20-31 Dec, 6x weekly.
MNL-HKG 2x daily, increasing to 3x daily from 14 Dec
MNL-LAX v.v. seasonal service increase from 13 December-10 Jan. Additional 2x weekly service on top of 2x daily flights.
MNL-MFM v.v. resumes 21 January, 1x daily
MNL-JFK/YYZ v.v. listed non-stop both ways. Further revision possible
MNL-JJN v.v. resumes 21 January, 1x daily
MNL-NRT v.v. 2x daily
MNL-RUH v.v. 1x daily
MNL-SFO v.v. seasonal increase to 9x weekly from 29 Nov 22 to 10 Jan 23
MNL-ICN v.v. 2x daily
MNL-PVG resumes 21 January, 7x weekly
MNL-SYD v.v. 1x daily from 7 Dec (MNL dep)
MNL-TPE v.v. increases to 2x daily from 21 Jan 23, operates 7x weekly initially
MNL-WUH v.v. begins from 2 Nov 22-20 Jan 23, 1x weekly
MNL-XMN v.v. resumes 21 January, 7x weekly
CEB-NGO v.v. resumes, 4x weekly. 5x weekly from 7 Jan 23.
CEB-NRT v.v. 1x daily
CRK-ICN v.v. resumes 11 November
CRK-PUS v.v. begins 10 November

Domestic
MNL-BSO v.v. 1x daily
MNL-BCD v.v. 6x daily, all opb PALex
MNL-CGY v.v. 4x daily, all opb PALex
MNL-CEB v.v. 11x weekly. 10 flights opb PALex, 1 flight opb Mainline
MNL-DVO v.v. 8x daily. All opb PALex
MNL-GES v.v. remains Mainline operated. MNL-GES on 30 Oct operates as PR452 instead of PR453.
MNL-PPS v.v. 2x daily. All opb PALex
MNL-TAC v.v. 3x daily. All opb PALex
CEB-BCD v.v. increases to 3x daily from 1 Jan 23
CEB-MPH v.v. 2x daily from 1 Nov
CEB-DVO v.v. 3x daily
CEB-CGY v.v. returns to 4x daily
COT-TWT v.v. remains on the schedule


Nothing for AKL either. How about MEL?
 
Philippine747
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:47 am

ZK-NBT wrote:
Philippine747 wrote:
PAL has released the first version of the Winter Timetable effective 30 October on their website. Highlights are increases in service (as well as seasonal) and plenty of service resumptions to Mainland China and Korea. Other highlights will be included in this update, this is not a complete list.

International
No mentions of MNL-Heathrow/Perth/Seattle/Tel Aviv and CEB-LAX.
MNL-DPS v.v. 1x daily
MNL-BKK v.v. 3x Daily
MNL-PEK v.v. resumes 22 January, 6x weekly
MNL-BNE v.v. 5x weekly
MNL-CAN v.v. resumes 21 January, 1x daily
MNL-DOH v.v. temporary service increase, 1x daily from 5 November-20 December. 5x weekly other dates except 20-31 Dec, 6x weekly.
MNL-HKG 2x daily, increasing to 3x daily from 14 Dec
MNL-LAX v.v. seasonal service increase from 13 December-10 Jan. Additional 2x weekly service on top of 2x daily flights.
MNL-MFM v.v. resumes 21 January, 1x daily
MNL-JFK/YYZ v.v. listed non-stop both ways. Further revision possible
MNL-JJN v.v. resumes 21 January, 1x daily
MNL-NRT v.v. 2x daily
MNL-RUH v.v. 1x daily
MNL-SFO v.v. seasonal increase to 9x weekly from 29 Nov 22 to 10 Jan 23
MNL-ICN v.v. 2x daily
MNL-PVG resumes 21 January, 7x weekly
MNL-SYD v.v. 1x daily from 7 Dec (MNL dep)
MNL-TPE v.v. increases to 2x daily from 21 Jan 23, operates 7x weekly initially
MNL-WUH v.v. begins from 2 Nov 22-20 Jan 23, 1x weekly
MNL-XMN v.v. resumes 21 January, 7x weekly
CEB-NGO v.v. resumes, 4x weekly. 5x weekly from 7 Jan 23.
CEB-NRT v.v. 1x daily
CRK-ICN v.v. resumes 11 November
CRK-PUS v.v. begins 10 November

Domestic
MNL-BSO v.v. 1x daily
MNL-BCD v.v. 6x daily, all opb PALex
MNL-CGY v.v. 4x daily, all opb PALex
MNL-CEB v.v. 11x weekly. 10 flights opb PALex, 1 flight opb Mainline
MNL-DVO v.v. 8x daily. All opb PALex
MNL-GES v.v. remains Mainline operated. MNL-GES on 30 Oct operates as PR452 instead of PR453.
MNL-PPS v.v. 2x daily. All opb PALex
MNL-TAC v.v. 3x daily. All opb PALex
CEB-BCD v.v. increases to 3x daily from 1 Jan 23
CEB-MPH v.v. 2x daily from 1 Nov
CEB-DVO v.v. 3x daily
CEB-CGY v.v. returns to 4x daily
COT-TWT v.v. remains on the schedule


Nothing for AKL either. How about MEL?



Auckland not listed either. MNL-MEL v.v. is 5x weekly.
 
Philippine747
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Sep 13, 2022 10:11 am

Update to reply #263

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/220913-prnw22puswuh

MNL-WUH service to be operated using A330, CRK-PUS opb A321
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:46 am

It seems PAL has rebranded its [Premium Economy to Domestic Comfort Class or simply Comfort Class and Economy Comfort for its A321ceo, and Bi-class A330-300. To differentiate it from PE featured on there Tri-class A330-300 and A350-900 hoping PAL maintainins 32" legroom for regular economy if they decided to densified there A330, A350 and B77W while adding PE on the latter.

https://mondortiz.com/pal-launches-its- ... t-service/
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:44 am

With the PR Winter Timetable 1st edition released, also comes the update to the Summer Timetable.

International:
MNL-DPS v.v. increases to 1x daily from 4 October (Manila dep)
MNL-LAX v.v. PR112 via ICN and 113 via HNL scheduled 11/13/17/19-24 Sep, other dates non-stop
CEB-NRT v.v. additional one-off service on 21 Sep
Other ex-CEB international routes not listed

Domestic:
MNL-CEB v.v. 4x weekly service opb Mainline transferred to PALex from 1 October
MNL-CGY v.v. temporary reduction to 3x daily from 8 Sep-1 October, returns to 4x daily after that date
MNL-DGT v.v. increase to 23x weekly from 1 October, previously 2x daily
MNL-LAO v.v. 3/7 weekly flights opb Mainline until 1 Oct. 4/14 weekly flights opb Mainline from 1 Oct.
MNL-ROX v.v. increases to 8x weekly from 1 October
MNL-TAC v.v. 1 daily flight moved to PALex from 1 October.
CEB-CGY v.v. 3 flights on 22/23 Sep, permanent from 1 October
CEB-MPH v.v. 2x daily from 1 October
CEB-BXU v.v. 2x daily from 1 October
CEB-ILO v.v. one-off extra flights on 1 October and 27 Sep
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:53 am

Philippine747 wrote:
With the PR Winter Timetable 1st edition released, also comes the update to the Summer Timetable.

Domestic:
MNL-CEB v.v. 4x weekly service opb Mainline transferred to PALex from 1 October
MNL-CGY v.v. temporary reduction to 3x daily from 8 Sep-1 October, returns to 4x daily after that date
MNL-DGT v.v. increase to 23x weekly from 1 October, previously 2x daily
MNL-LAO v.v. 3/7 weekly flights opb Mainline until 1 Oct. 4/14 weekly flights opb Mainline from 1 Oct.
MNL-ROX v.v. increases to 8x weekly from 1 October
MNL-TAC v.v. 1 daily flight moved to PALex from 1 October.
CEB-CGY v.v. 3 flights on 22/23 Sep, permanent from 1 October
CEB-MPH v.v. 2x daily from 1 October
CEB-BXU v.v. 2x daily from 1 October
CEB-ILO v.v. one-off extra flights on 1 October and 27 Sep


Still no CEB-GES-CEB guess it will be either next year or the following years probably due to lacked aircraft and other higher pax and revenue routes receiving priorty.

It seem PALEx is content with its ILO-GES-ILO trice weekly service using the DHC-8-Q400 although I have to asked how long can keep up with CEB also operating the same frequency with an extra day flight using an A320-200 operating from CEB? Won't be surprised they will revert back to there previous schedule the question is just when?
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:30 am

Correction to reply #263:

MNL-CEB v.v. is 11x daily, not weekly.

AB330 wrote:
Still no CEB-GES-CEB guess it will be either next year or the following years probably due to lacked aircraft and other higher pax and revenue routes receiving priorty.

It seem PALEx is content with its ILO-GES-ILO trice weekly service using the DHC-8-Q400 although I have to asked how long can keep up with CEB also operating the same frequency with an extra day flight using an A320-200 operating from CEB? Won't be surprised they will revert back to there previous schedule the question is just when?


Me too, also surprised to still see no CEB-CGM relaunch yet. Cebgo is filling that gap in the meantime.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:37 am

Philippines' PSI Air 2007 acquired Boeing 777-200 for intercontinental cargo operations.

PSI Air 2007 has acquired its first widebody jet for use in launching in-house intercontinental cargo flights. The 777 is formerly used by Thai Airways with registry HS-TJC.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:02 am

Hi

Hope its ok to ask this here. I'm from the UK and next month im traveling to Iloilo (RPVI) to see my girlfriend there. Like all of you on here the pandemic took 3 years from our lives and I want to make that up.

However I found out that the regular Singapore flight I used to take (WSSS-RPVI) on CebuPacifc (A320ceo) does not exist any more. Further digging into Google Flights show zero direct flights to RPVI. I then found out that the airport is closed to international flights.

Anyone here based in the Philippines - would you know why this is? Other airports there are open, borders are open but this one airport is holding out. It means I will have to go through Cebu routing EGLL-WSSS-RPVM-RPVI

I do not want to touch Manila airport. Worst experience of my life and i never want to go near that place again. Other airports in the country are very nice.

Not a big deal but it adds costs.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:32 pm

You can go to Cebu or Clark and from there book flight to Iloilo
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:52 am

Photo courtesy of the Model Aviation Shop looks like RP-C3508 is being used by Marcos Jr as PR01 to New York also means only 1 A350-900 is in PAL regular pax service hence why they should have kept 3504 though its to late. Just hope the Philippine Goverment will consider acquring its own aircraft in the future either the ACJ320neo or BBJ 737 Max 8 may fit the requirement with LTP providing maintenance so no lost revenue from El Kapitan

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Not related to Civil Aviation though not sure where to share it? looks like the PAF acquisition of C-130J-30 will soon be funded this year with contract signing soon to follow probably next year! However numbers have been reduced from 5 to just 3 guess cause by budget constraints!

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Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:49 am

Devilfish wrote:
It's in keeping with the engineered timber construction of the last two regional hubs in the country...fire and rain could be of some concern though! :scratchchin:


Slightly off topic, but fire is no concern. Steel beams start sagging at high temperatures, laminated wood is structurally stable. This means a fire in a big building with traditional steel beams could result in the roof caving in at a much earlier point in time. With glulam the possbilities to evacuate people/items in time are much higher.
The wood building technology is now at a point where in my country Sweden, it is now allowed again to build tall buildings (over 3 storeys) in wood. The reason it was forbidden was indeed fire risks, but that was with older building technologies.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:22 pm

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Bulacan and Cavite airports won’t cannibalize each other. They are being built by consortiums and private entities, not a big risk to the govt.

Cannibalization, competition etc are not all bad. It just means things are improving!

An Infrawatch convenor thinks otherwise...ultimately, the traveling public and the local economy could suffer should one or both fail.

https://www.philstar.com/business/2022/ ... lling-naia

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"'All four airports will invariably compete for the same passengers and airlines even in the years prior to 2028, or the year when the first phase of SPIA will be completed, but the public and the government have yet to see whether Sangley and Bulacan will even be able to proceed to their full construction in the next five years,' Ridon told The STAR.

'If the government redevelops NAIA instead of repurposing it, the market will then decide which of the four airports will be most viable, particularly on their ease of access and flight availability,' he added."



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The population of Metro Manila is very big, we deserve to have multiple airports. PH population is 3x that of Malaysia’s! Ticket prices will go down bec of having more options.

True, but did you consider what percentage of that is business driven and what is financially able to fly long distances on a whim? Ticket prices will not necessarily go down when even airlines are struggling to stay afloat.


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Emirates and Qatar can finally unleash their flagship aircraft and deploy them to Manila.

At a time when others are beginning to ban the Whale in their airspace to curb emissions and help the environment. 'Unleash' is a very apt word -- behemoths would bury local carriers in their wake. Unless Philippine-flagged airlines have the wherewithal to go head-to-head with both Sovereign-backed, petro-dollar flush competition. Would they give our airlines fifth-freedom rights for example, to even out the playing field a bit?


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Slightly off topic, but fire is no concern. Steel beams start sagging at high temperatures, laminated wood is structurally stable. This means a fire in a big building with traditional steel beams could result in the roof caving in at a much earlier point in time. With glulam the possbilities to evacuate people/items in time are much higher.

My concern stems from not seeing sprinklers directed upward to the roof structure. Perhaps local authorities deem it a low enough risk as the soffit is high and the area wide open that airport Fire & Rescue units could respond fairly quickly to an incident.

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looks like RP-C3508 is being used by Marcos Jr as PR01 to New York also means only 1 A350-900 is in PAL regular pax service hence why they should have kept 3504 though its to late.


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As indicated, I believe it's in connection with his address to the U.N. General Assembly, which makes me think a sizeable delegation was onboard too to conduct some state business in D.C. while he's at the U.N. I do wonder though if 1251 was pre-positioned there for a quick side trip to the U.K. to convey the country's respects. :scratchchin:

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Just hope the Philippine Goverment will consider acquring its own aircraft in the future either the ACJ320neo or BBJ 737 Max 8 may fit the requirement with LTP providing maintenance

While I appreciate the range and extra capacity, either may be too rich (read expensive) for the country's pocket, particularly now. Maybe when the country can better afford it in the future as you say, a compromise could be made for a 'greener' TwoTwenty shown in #189. And the Government could even arrange a modus vivendi with PR and LTPI so that such an expensive asset wouldn't be a hangar queen for much of its existence. :cloudnine:

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Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:27 pm

All bets are off...this suggests to me that PAL could be re-nationalized anytime soon...I just wonder what the repercussions would be for SMC's NMIA..... :spin:

https://www.philstar.com/business/2022/ ... -companies


As to which particular Boeing model may be in the running, this blog hints at the 778X.....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... riple.html

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"New York- Aerospace giant Boeing has meet with the President of the Philippines Ferdinand R. Marcos Jr. relative to its acquisition of a long haul jet.

According to Palace Officials, Boeing offered to the Philippine government the brand new Boeing 777-8X powered by GE9x engine, with a price tag of $410 million, (₱22.6 billion) at listed price in 2022 for its long haul travel needs.

Boeing said the aircraft has a range of up to 8,730 nmi (16,170 km) with 310 passengers. It is capable to fly to all continents, except South America."



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While the offer was for the Philippine Government, the PAW wouldn't have much practical use for a 778X (especially when a huge part of the citizenry is wallowing in poverty). More credible would be an offer of updated FA-18s, with a BBJ to sweeten it...and perhaps influence PR's re-fleeting decision. :stirthepot:
 
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Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:30 am

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As to which particular Boeing model may be in the running, this blog hints at the 778X.....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... riple.html

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"New York- Aerospace giant Boeing has meet with the President of the Philippines Ferdinand R. Marcos Jr. relative to its acquisition of a long haul jet.

According to Palace Officials, Boeing offered to the Philippine government the brand new Boeing 777-8X powered by GE9x engine, with a price tag of $410 million, (₱22.6 billion) at listed price in 2022 for its long haul travel needs.

Boeing said the aircraft has a range of up to 8,730 nmi (16,170 km) with 310 passengers. It is capable to fly to all continents, except South America."


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While the offer was for the Philippine Government, the PAW wouldn't have much practical use for a 778X (especially when a huge part of the citizenry is wallowing in poverty). More credible would be an offer of updated FA-18s, with a BBJ to sweeten it...and perhaps influence PR's re-fleeting decision.


Perhaps though remains to be seen considering PAL is now privately owned and doing well despite the downturn. Though I don't doubt Boeing will won't to loses market share to Airbus so they will probably offer a tempting deal for both the A330 Replacement and eventually the B777 Replacement within this decade!

As for the Philippine Goverment the PAF recently scrapped its order for 16 Mil Mi-171sh helicopters and is probably pitching the CH-47 Chinock as a replacement which both the PAF and DND originally preferred there is also the AH-6i which maybe offered to the Army Aviation Regiment. As for fix-wing aircraft the B777-8 seem to big for the PH Goverment so a smaller aircraft like the BBJ 737 Max or BBJ 787-8 would have made more sense IMHO. Outisde of Business jet there is the B737 AE&C and KC-46A Pegasus which could be offered in a future requirement if the PAF needed an Aerial tanker once they have sufficient numbers of MRF I certainly prefer the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet not because in was featured in the recent TopGun movie. But due its capability to operate in Maritime environment which ideal considering the Philippines Geography!
 
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Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:11 am

Philippines AirAsia resuming CEB-KUL and MNL-TPE along with service increases.

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Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:00 am

Better for PAL to buy 787-9 and 787-10 Dreamliners with GENx engines to replace A330 and possibly 777-300ER fleets.
 
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Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:49 pm

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Better for PAL to buy 787-9 and 787-10 Dreamliners with GENx engines to replace A330 and possibly 777-300ER fleets.


And if the 777-9 proved to be successful, PAL can order these to replace 777-300ERs.
 
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Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:43 pm

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Perhaps though remains to be seen considering PAL is now privately owned and doing well despite the downturn.

You'd have seen RSA at the extreme right of that lineup had you viewed the video report (no LT)...it ties in with my comment in #205. Of course, that image in itself means nothing as the latter may be avoiding long trips due to his health.

AB330 wrote:
Though I don't doubt Boeing will won't to loses market share to Airbus so they will probably offer a tempting deal for both the A330 Replacement and eventually the B777 Replacement within this decade!

What I'm saying though is Boeing's 778X offer to the Government may be a diversion to mask their real goal.

AB330 wrote:
As for fix-wing aircraft the B777-8 seem to big for the PH Goverment so a smaller aircraft like the BBJ 737 Max or BBJ 787-8 would have made more sense IMHO.

A Max BBJ would indeed make infinitely better sense, however, I still feel a dedicated 788 State Transport a bit too much for the country. The other items are more appropriately discussed in MilAv.
 
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Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:16 am

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Lingon wrote:
Slightly off topic, but fire is no concern. Steel beams start sagging at high temperatures, laminated wood is structurally stable. This means a fire in a big building with traditional steel beams could result in the roof caving in at a much earlier point in time. With glulam the possbilities to evacuate people/items in time are much higher.

My concern stems from not seeing sprinklers directed upward to the roof structure. Perhaps local authorities deem it a low enough risk as the soffit is high and the area wide open that airport Fire & Rescue units could respond fairly quickly to an incident.


Sprinklers are generally not needed. Here is an image from an Australian test. I don't embed the image for coypright reasons. The beams have been exposed to fire for two hours.
Wood does not conduct heat very well, this is why the thick glulam beams can survive (and why you can sit in a sauna without getting burns). The thin wood structures of a traditional old wooden small building is an entirely other thing, such houses burn down more like you expect from seeing firewood in a fireplace. Glulam does not. That is why you now can see multi-story buildings built with glulam structures in north Europe. In Norway there is now an 18-storey timber building (Mjøstårnet) . So next time you walk in under the glulam supported roof in the new terminal of Cebu-Mactan, enjoy the extra fire safety added by the glulam.
 
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Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:52 pm

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The thin wood structures of a traditional old wooden small building is an entirely other thing, such houses burn down more like you expect from seeing firewood in a fireplace. Glulam does not. That is why you now can see multi-story buildings built with glulam structures in north Europe. In Norway there is now an 18-storey timber building (Mjøstårnet) . So next time you walk in under the glulam supported roof in the new terminal of Cebu-Mactan, enjoy the extra fire safety added by the glulam.

I'll keep those in mind the first chance I get to holiday in hot & sunny CEB. :sun:

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A member who seldom posts here is debating on the same site the merits of the 'supposed' 778X offer to the Government with another poster who brought up the A321XLR instead. Doubtless a fine choice in terms of capability and laudable as it seeks to cut extravagance in public office. Nonetheless, it will still put the country ahead of the U.K. (an economy magnitudes greater than RP) which is just contracting A321NXs with Titan for its ministers' travel needs.

Maybe Boeing could piggy back this on their 778XF development? What may be more embarrassing is if the offer wasn't made at all and the airframer got a free endorsement. :oops:
 
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Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:33 pm

Come to think of it, there are some MAX 7s that Boeing is eager to remarket..... :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign:

https://www.flightglobal.com/airframers ... 74.article


But if I have to guess, I'd bet they offered a VIP version of this -- given how the in-service helo was lent for the VP to use..... :goodvibes:

https://www.boeing.com/defense/mh-139a/index.page
 
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Sat Sep 24, 2022 4:51 am

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/220924-5jnw22au

5J resuming MEL in Summer 2023 instead of Winter 2022-2023
 
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Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:13 pm

Simple Flying has a new, lengthy piece about PR's fleet..... :airplane:

https://simpleflying.com/2022-deep-dive ... -airlines/

2P's oldest Dash 8 - (which could be converted to a dedicated cargo frame after modifications & refurbishment) augmenting jet belly freight to service domestic demand, was mentioned. However, a tougher question was left for the reader to reflect on..... :scratchchin:

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"This will work well for the carrier, as Boeing is still a few more years away from the 777X entering commercial passenger service. But do you think Philippine Airlines should eventually update its 777-300ER fleet to the 777-9? Or should it modernize with Airbus A350s instead?"


I believe recent developments above have supplanted the candidates with the 778-X and A350-K respectively. :box:
 
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Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:18 pm

Devilfish wrote:
Simple Flying has a new, lengthy piece about PR's fleet..... :airplane:

https://simpleflying.com/2022-deep-dive ... -airlines/

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"This will work well for the carrier, as Boeing is still a few more years away from the 777X entering commercial passenger service. But do you think Philippine Airlines should eventually update its 777-300ER fleet to the 777-9? Or should it modernize with Airbus A350s instead?"

I believe recent developments above have supplanted the candidates with the 778-X and A350-K respectively. :box:


The diffrence between the two is one already in service while the other is still a few years away from entering service most likely the former will be selected while the latter could be used as "Philippine One"
 
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Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:54 pm

Typhoon KARDING scored a direct hit on CRK. As predicted in #33, that walkway's ceiling was susceptible to beating. Good thing the storm was already 'somewhat' weakened after passing over the Sierra Madre in the East - which spared some of the young trees just taking root..... :swirl:

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Maybe the last quarter of the year will see more international arrivals into CRK as opposed to this lonely QR 787.....

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Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:35 am

AB330 wrote:
Devilfish wrote:
Simple Flying has a new, lengthy piece about PR's fleet..... :airplane:

https://simpleflying.com/2022-deep-dive ... -airlines/

Quote:
"This will work well for the carrier, as Boeing is still a few more years away from the 777X entering commercial passenger service. But do you think Philippine Airlines should eventually update its 777-300ER fleet to the 777-9? Or should it modernize with Airbus A350s instead?"

I believe recent developments above have supplanted the candidates with the 778-X and A350-K respectively. :box:


The diffrence between the two is one already in service while the other is still a few years away from entering service most likely the former will be selected while the latter could be used as "Philippine One"


Better for PAL to buy 787-9 and/or 787-10 Dreamliners to replace 777-300ERs just in case the 777-8 or 9 delays due to misc issues.
 
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Tue Sep 27, 2022 5:40 pm

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The diffrence between the two is one already in service while the other is still a few years away from entering service most likely the former will be selected while the latter could be used as "Philippine One"

The likelihood of one being favored over the other also depends on commonality and the political landscape. OTOH, this is why I said an AW139 offer was more credible...the Bell 412 has obviously seen much better days..... :old:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rU_ntwm0nk

They might find a stripped-down, slightly bigger AW149 better suited for presidential use though - with just advance comms, RWR, chaff & flare dispensers integrated into the higher-powered, sturdier airframe. And while the jury is still out whether it could match the Bell's durability & dependability, a VIP version with its glass cockpit and plush interior has AW109 stablemates in the PAF & PN (not without some service issues) to parlay for lower than its $12M list price - provided procurement staff are not tuned in to WIII-FM.

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Better for PAL to buy 787-9 and/or 787-10 Dreamliners to replace 777-300ERs just in case the 777-8 or 9 delays due to misc issues.

The aim of such an exercise is to find a suitable replacement for PR's bigger jets on its bread & butter TPAC routes to LAX and SFO. It's arguable that the 789 could do much better than their current A359s which have critical spares ready and with which PR's personnel are already familiar. As to the 787-10, would be eager to see it cross the ocean nonstop westbound, full of pax and boxes. :hyper:
 
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Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:28 am

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AB330 wrote:
The diffrence between the two is one already in service while the other is still a few years away from entering service most likely the former will be selected while the latter could be used as "Philippine One"

The likelihood of one being favored over the other also depends on commonality and the political landscape. OTOH, this is why I said an AW139 offer was more credible...the Bell 412 has obviously seen much better days..... :old:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rU_ntwm0nk

They might find a stripped-down, slightly bigger AW149 better suited for presidential use though - with just advance comms, RWR, chaff & flare dispensers integrated into the higher-powered, sturdier airframe. And while the jury is still out whether it could match the Bell's durability & dependability, a VIP version with its glass cockpit and plush interior has AW109 stablemates in the PAF & PN (not without some service issues) to parlay for lower than its $12M list price - provided procurement staff are not tuned in to WIII-FM.

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PAF is having diffculty keeping there air assets operational recently only 5 out of the 12 FA-50PH where operational which isn't acceptable IMHO. May also affect there other new assets such as the C-295 transport aircraft, A-29B Close air support aircraft and S-70i Black Hawk utility helicopter!

The issues isn't the maintenance. But rather the lacked of spare parts which endemic within the PAF there is also an issue with the egos of those top brass who refused to admit problems or mistakes which have been the source of contention within the defense community!

Anyways of the AW139 I've heard its being considered as a replacement for the 250th PAW Bell 412EP which will be transferred to the 205th Tactical Helicopter Wing! The AW139 would be a happy middle between the Bell 412EP and Sikorsky S-70A Blackhawk which has been transferred to the 505th Search and Rescue Group.

Speaking of Search and rescue (SAR) the PAF is planning to acquire a new SAR helicopter too at less 3 which will replaced the Bell 205A and in the future the Sikorsky S-76A it would be produent if the they choose one type for both to help reduced the number of helicopters within the PAF ideally to just 4-5 types with the AW109E, Bell 412EP, S-70i Black Hawk, T-129B ATAK and maybe the AW139 or AW149 to replace both the Bell 205A, Bell 412EP, Sikorsky S-70A and S-76A.

The only downside with the AW139 or AW149 is Leonardo Helicopters (Agusta Westland) lackluster after sales support which have affected both the AW109E and AW159 Wildcat in service with the PN which may become a bigger issue if combined with the PAF piece meal buying of spare parts. Hence why I'm hesitant to go with them although if they improve the why not it was help reduced maintenance cost for the Air force also the AW139M or AW149 maybe ideal for both the [Naval Air Wing and Coast Guard Aviation who don't have to depend on the AF when it comes to helicopters at less! As for the Army Aviation Regiment I think they would be better off with Light Utility Helicopters (LUH) such as the AW109 LUH or Airbus Helicopters H-145M.
 
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Fri Sep 30, 2022 5:34 pm

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Anyways of the AW139 I've heard its being considered as a replacement for the 250th PAW Bell 412EP which will be transferred to the 205th Tactical Helicopter Wing!

The 'hope' in sourcing from a USAF order (were it possible) is that might have already banished potential gremlins inside the prospective platform, so there wouldn't be another incident like the one involving the PNP Chief.

https://www.flightglobal.com/helicopter ... 81.article

https://www.flightglobal.com/helicopter ... 78.article


AB330 wrote:
The only downside with the AW139 or AW149 is Leonardo Helicopters (Agusta Westland) lackluster after sales support which have affected both the AW109E and AW159 Wildcat in service with the PN which may become a bigger issue if combined with the PAF piece meal buying of spare parts.

Thing is, even if they ordered direct from Leonardo, chances are the buy would be coursed thru PZL to reduce the price.

AB330 wrote:
Speaking of Search and rescue (SAR) the PAF is planning to acquire a new SAR helicopter too at less 3 which will replaced the Bell 205A and in the future the Sikorsky S-76A it would be produent if the they choose one type for both to help reduced the number of helicopters within the PAF

Bringing the whole thing around to the infamous Sokols which were initially tasked as CUHs - then repurposed for SAR duties. They could look into this though.....

https://www.flightglobal.com/helicopter ... 47.article
 
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Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:01 am

Sangley Airport construction will only start next year!

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Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:51 pm

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If only they didn't use a big twinjet to illustrate their report. :embarrassed2: Understandably, this blog was better versed on the matter.....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... -cebu.html

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It seems 5J is not interested and content to leave this route to 2P as the former are not proposing to fly their ATR-72s there :?:


Local media are currently abuzz with the recent trip of 1251 to SIN (pardon the pun). Quite apart from the propriety of it all, the G280 in #276 also needed its "exercise" and the crew to maintain their proficiency.....

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=MNL-SIN&DU=nm

It's just that the timing was unfortunate and the camera shy Gulfstream didn't prove "stealthy" after all. :camera:
 
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Fri Oct 07, 2022 10:00 am

PAL released another Winter Timetable update as of October 7. Incomplete highlights here.

International
MNL-BNE v.v. temporary increase to 1x daily from 4 December 2022-15 January 2023. 6x weekly from 22-29 January 2023.
MNL-HKG v.v. second daily service postponed to 29 November. 3rd daily service brought forward to 9 December.
CEB-BKK v.v. resumes 9 December, 2x weekly. Flight is now a morning departure from Cebu with a noontime return from Bangkok instead of a redeye.
MNL-WUH sched unlisted. WUH-MNL remains unchanged. To be watched in future updates.
CEB-NRT v.v. service increase postponed. 1x daily begins 29 December. 3x weekly flights until them.
CEB-NGO v.v. service resumption pushed to Jan 1.

Domestic
MNL-CEB/DVO v.v. planned Mainline to PALex service shift adjusted. Service alternates between PALex and Mainline, but overall frequency remains somewhat consistent. [Sorry no detailed breakdown, a bit confusing to summarize]
MNL-PPS v.v. Mainline service ends 1 November instead.
DVO-TAG v.v. extra flight on 1 November
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2022 2:15 am

From SkyscraperCity -- looks like the 'BER' season has brought more life into an otherwise dreary CRK..... :goodvibes:

Source: @Janice Flores Frias - 10//07/2022

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posted by: @ajosh821


Hopefully, many more will come and outnumber the greeters outside as X'MAS nears. :santahat: A deluge of incoming flights might hasten the completion of the ATC tower in the background of the bottom pic, which seems to be stalled. :confused:
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:13 am

That’s the theme in Southeast Asia… airports with cultural and religious displays!

If you think Cebu and Clark look like churches, then they’ve achieved their goal in terms of airport design.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2022

Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:59 am

Cebu Pacific: Asian LCC Pioneer in SAF Flights

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