n515cr wrote:

n515cr wrote:

3230 showing exit from BHM to SAL 5/9. 1 remaining 320 in storage (3229 also at BHM).
3223 showing test flight in SAL 5/10 so expect exit/RTS soon.

3230 on track to exit storage this morning
3223 exit scheduled for 5/10
9566 showing exit from QRO 5/10

3223 and 9566 on track as mentioned above
1817 showing a ferry MZJ-SBD on 5/12...interesting route there.
5008 is out of paint at XFW: https://aibfamily.flights/A320/10898

n515cr wrote:

n515cr wrote:

n515cr wrote:

3230 showing exit from BHM to SAL 5/9. 1 remaining 320 in storage (3229 also at BHM).
3223 showing test flight in SAL 5/10 so expect exit/RTS soon.

3230 on track to exit storage this morning
3223 exit scheduled for 5/10
9566 showing exit from QRO 5/10

3223 and 9566 on track as mentioned above
1817 showing a ferry MZJ-SBD on 5/12...interesting route there.
5008 is out of paint at XFW: https://aibfamily.flights/A320/10898

1817 is getting some MX done prior to induction in CAN next month.

3223's exit/RTS pushed to 5/11
3323's exit pushed to 5/12

3314 N814NW to ferry to SAL tomorrow https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n814nw

1817 ferried to SBD
3314 entered mods
3323 exited mods

B764 1817 N841MH is the last B764 to exit storage. 19 in active service, 1 in mods in CAN (1818) and 1 in maintenance before going to mods (1817)

Fri 5/13/22:
retired B73G ferry:
B73G 3608 N308DE ferry from storage MZJ-OKC DAL9936
Of the 10 retired B73G subfleet per planespotters:
4 - scrapped/partially scrapped: 3601, 3603, 3604, 3607
4 - sold/cargo conversions: 3602, 3605, 3606, 3608
2 - stored 3609, 3610

Back in BHM today and caught a quick glimpse from the road at the Stewart facility. Will hopefully be able to grab the camera at some point soon and get some better shots, but I caught a few quick shots from the car with the phone. Looks like either N177DN or N178DN is in the reactivation area, possibly to be moved to another facility? I would think that CAM may purchase either one or both of these, but assuming they will not return to service with DL. First pic shows either N177DN or N178DN in the reactivation area (I believe that it is N177DN, too far to make out reg without a long lens but I'm basing this guess on where it was sitting on the other side of the hangar, as that space is now empty but they could have shuffled while I was gone). Second pic is N178DN (I believe) on the right and N394DL on the left (can clearly make out the unique R2 door configuration).

Didn't see any 717s on the back side of the facility, which is where they tend to reactivate those. They've got a good bit of hangar space though, so I wouldn't be surprised if some of the work is being done indoors on those with the Alabama heat. Most, if not all, of the 717s at BHM were stored, and are continuing to be stored, indoors.

Thanks, gdavis003! 177 and 1521 should be reactivated. 176 is the other at BHM, not 178.

1603 showing ferry ATL-SEA on 5/18 https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1603
178 showing ferry VCV-SEA on 5/18 https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N178DN

5003 taxi check and RTO today at XFW https://aibfamily.flights/date/2022-05-16
3608 ferried MZJ-OKC, presumably mx before moving to a new owner?
Also seeing another 73W to ferry MZJ-OKC today as DL 9936 but unsure which frame (might be a misfile).
The other 73Ws that have exited storage, had mx, then ferried to OKC, are heading for the Colombian Air Force.

5003 1st flight today https://aibfamily.flights/A320/10974
5001/5002 to ferry to BOS tomorrow for service entry soon
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N501DA
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n502dx

n515cr wrote:

Thanks, gdavis003! 177 and 1521 should be reactivated. 176 is the other at BHM, not 178.

1603 showing ferry ATL-SEA on 5/18 https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1603
178 showing ferry VCV-SEA on 5/18 https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N178DN

5003 taxi check and RTO today at XFW https://aibfamily.flights/date/2022-05-16
3608 ferried MZJ-OKC, presumably mx before moving to a new owner?
Also seeing another 73W to ferry MZJ-OKC today as DL 9936 but unsure which frame (might be a misfile).
The other 73Ws that have exited storage, had mx, then ferried to OKC, are heading for the Colombian Air Force.

n515cr wrote:

5003 1st flight today https://aibfamily.flights/A320/10974
5001/5002 to ferry to BOS tomorrow for service entry soon
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N501DA
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n502dx

1603/178 on track to begin ferrying to CAN today
5001/5002's first revenue flights loaded for 5/20. They will ferry to BOS today
3418 showing first revenue flight 5/20

178 in the air
1603 hitting some rolling delays today
5001/5002 in the air to BOS

177 to exit BHM tomorrow and ferry to SEA/ICN
That leaves two 763s at BHM (none elsewhere): 76Z 1521 and 76L 176

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

B764 1817 N841MH is the last B764 to exit storage. 19 in active service, 1 in mods in CAN (1818) and 1 in maintenance before going to mods (1817)

Fri 5/13/22:
retired B73G ferry:
B73G 3608 N308DE ferry from storage MZJ-OKC DAL9936
Of the 10 retired B73G subfleet per planespotters:
4 - scrapped/partially scrapped: 3601, 3603, 3604, 3607
4 - sold/cargo conversions: 3602, 3605, 3606, 3608
2 - stored 3609, 3610

Scrapped after barely 10 years of service seems like a huge waste, even if the "demand" is low. Especially surprising since they still have commonality with the rest of the 737s and DL likes to fly things until the wings fall off.

UA444 wrote:

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

B764 1817 N841MH is the last B764 to exit storage. 19 in active service, 1 in mods in CAN (1818) and 1 in maintenance before going to mods (1817)

Fri 5/13/22:
retired B73G ferry:
B73G 3608 N308DE ferry from storage MZJ-OKC DAL9936
Of the 10 retired B73G subfleet per planespotters:
4 - scrapped/partially scrapped: 3601, 3603, 3604, 3607
4 - sold/cargo conversions: 3602, 3605, 3606, 3608
2 - stored 3609, 3610

Scrapped after barely 10 years of service seems like a huge waste, even if the "demand" is low. Especially surprising since they still have commonality with the rest of the 737s and DL likes to fly things until the wings fall off.

Delta must be making more money scrapping them or they wouldn't do it. I think the 737 spare parts market is hot.

Inside look at the 321NEO launching BOS-SFO Friday, May 19th.
From thepointsguy:

https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-air ... look-tour/

DL dumped the B73Gs in 2020 since they were a small-subfleet of 10 that added extra complexity and cost to the operation. Their capabilities weren't needed post-merger as the A319 could do anything that the B73G were needed for performance reasons. They were also coming due for heavy maintenance cycle.

Now sure you could debate in hindsight if they should've kept them around, but they were outliers compared to the 77 738s & 130+ 739s

When will the remaining 40 A220-300s be coming online?

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

DL dumped the B73Gs in 2020 since they were a small-subfleet of 10 that added extra complexity and cost to the operation. Their capabilities weren't needed post-merger as the A319 could do anything that the B73G were needed for performance reasons. They were also coming due for heavy maintenance cycle.

Now sure you could debate in hindsight if they should've kept them around, but they were outliers compared to the 77 738s & 130+ 739s

Does DL use the A319 into Latin America like they did the 73Gs?

maps4ltd wrote:

When will the remaining 40 A220-300s be coming online?

The Annual Report cites a total of 11 -100 and -300 this year; 11 -300s in 2023; 10 -300s in 2024, and 12 -300s 'After 2024'.

UA444 wrote:

Does DL use the A319 into Latin America like they did the 73Gs?

No.
The 73Gs were really only needed/used on a very specific sub-set of routes for performance reasons, and outside of those were cycled on any run-of-the-mill domestic route.

Right now DL isn't really operating any A319s into Latin America, primarily due to upgauging as its mostly 738, 739, 757, with 763, 764, 333 on some of the longer stage length routes.

Right now the A319s are really only used on a handful of specific routes for performance reasons:
ATL-EYW
MSP-SNA (SLC-SNA used to but is now all A221/A223)
SLC-JAC
MSP-JAC

177 to exit BHM today and ferry to ICN
1603 to continue on from SEA to ICN/CAN
3353 the last 332 to get PS will head to SAL for mods
178 will continue to CAN 5/20
3331 will exit SAL 5/20
1818 and 188 will exit CAN 5/21 (local)
3418 still showing revenue flights starting 5/20

n515cr wrote:

177 to exit BHM today and ferry to ICN
1603 to continue on from SEA to ICN/CAN
3353 the last 332 to get PS will head to SAL for mods
178 will continue to CAN 5/20
3331 will exit SAL 5/20
1818 and 188 will exit CAN 5/21 (local)
3418 still showing revenue flights starting 5/20

177 is the oldest plane in the entire DL fleet at 32 years young. I presume this ferry is only for MX work and not the PS mod?

FLLspotter747 wrote:

n515cr wrote:

177 to exit BHM today and ferry to ICN
1603 to continue on from SEA to ICN/CAN
3353 the last 332 to get PS will head to SAL for mods
178 will continue to CAN 5/20
3331 will exit SAL 5/20
1818 and 188 will exit CAN 5/21 (local)
3418 still showing revenue flights starting 5/20

177 is the oldest plane in the entire DL fleet at 32 years young. I presume this ferry is only for MX work and not the PS mod?

That's correct - just mx for reactivation, and actually, there is a small handful of 75Ds and 76Ls that are a bit older (177 was delivered in 1991).

3353 en route to SAL. No more 332s in service without PS
3331 scheduled to exit SAL today
1603/178 to ferry to CAN midday EST
177 to ferry SEA-ICN today. Onward to CAN 5/22
3414 first flight at TLS today https://aibfamily.flights/A330/1996
3418 ferry to BOS midday for first revenue flight tonight
1818/188 to exit CAN later today (EST). 188 appears to be the repeat ferry to CAN/ICN once 177 ferries TPAC

n515cr wrote:

Thanks, gdavis003! 177 and 1521 should be reactivated. 176 is the other at BHM, not 178.

Just now catching up on this, correct, meant 176. It was moved around within the last week with the departure of 177, but it's now in a spot where it's hard to get a good look at it. 1521 has not been moved. 3229 was in front of the reactivation area, and a ferry to SAL is probably imminent. Last narrowbody at BHM other than the handful of 717s, stored indoors, now that all of the zombie A320s have been reactivated.

Notably, N322US is now completely out of sight, it has either been moved or crushed. Looked like it was in bad shape a few months back and was being used for parts, not sure if it has been moved to the interior of the facility or crushed to beer cans already.

gdavis003 wrote:

n515cr wrote:

Thanks, gdavis003! 177 and 1521 should be reactivated. 176 is the other at BHM, not 178.

Just now catching up on this, correct, meant 176. It was moved around within the last week with the departure of 177, but it's now in a spot where it's hard to get a good look at it. 1521 has not been moved. 3229 was in front of the reactivation area, and a ferry to SAL is probably imminent. Last narrowbody at BHM other than the handful of 717s, stored indoors, now that all of the zombie A320s have been reactivated.

Notably, N322US is now completely out of sight, it has either been moved or crushed. Looked like it was in bad shape a few months back and was being used for parts, not sure if it has been moved to the interior of the facility or crushed to beer cans already.

Could you see whether 176 is still engineless?

audidudi wrote:

gdavis003 wrote:

n515cr wrote:

Thanks, gdavis003! 177 and 1521 should be reactivated. 176 is the other at BHM, not 178.

Just now catching up on this, correct, meant 176. It was moved around within the last week with the departure of 177, but it's now in a spot where it's hard to get a good look at it. 1521 has not been moved. 3229 was in front of the reactivation area, and a ferry to SAL is probably imminent. Last narrowbody at BHM other than the handful of 717s, stored indoors, now that all of the zombie A320s have been reactivated.

Notably, N322US is now completely out of sight, it has either been moved or crushed. Looked like it was in bad shape a few months back and was being used for parts, not sure if it has been moved to the interior of the facility or crushed to beer cans already.

Could you see whether 176 is still engineless?

It looked like it from the first angle, but it was hard to tell. Second angle was blocked because of its new location on the premises. Notably, the engines from 1521 still remain, and I don't think they've ever been removed, given it's an oddball for the fleet anyways.

gdavis003 wrote:

n515cr wrote:

Thanks, gdavis003! 177 and 1521 should be reactivated. 176 is the other at BHM, not 178.

Just now catching up on this, correct, meant 176. It was moved around within the last week with the departure of 177, but it's now in a spot where it's hard to get a good look at it. 1521 has not been moved. 3229 was in front of the reactivation area, and a ferry to SAL is probably imminent. Last narrowbody at BHM other than the handful of 717s, stored indoors, now that all of the zombie A320s have been reactivated.

Notably, N322US is now completely out of sight, it has either been moved or crushed. Looked like it was in bad shape a few months back and was being used for parts, not sure if it has been moved to the interior of the facility or crushed to beer cans already.

That would make sense on 3229 as 3227 has been at SAL since 3/23, and those reactivations have been north of 60 days at SAL.

3418 diverted back to ATL while on its ferry flight to BOS to enter revenue service tonight:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n418dx

audidudi wrote:

3418 diverted back to ATL while on its ferry flight to BOS to enter revenue service tonight:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n418dx

Where was it headed after BOS?

audidudi wrote:

3418 diverted back to ATL while on its ferry flight to BOS to enter revenue service tonight:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n418dx

Was scheduled to go again this morning but cancelled, wonder what’s up.

Oilman wrote:

audidudi wrote:

3418 diverted back to ATL while on its ferry flight to BOS to enter revenue service tonight:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n418dx

Where was it headed after BOS?

I believe it was scheduled to operate DL258 to AMS. N830NW will position to BOS from JFK later today to sub in.

177/188's ferries pushed to tomorrow

177/188's ferries happened as planned
1818 to ferry ICN-SEA shortly
9522 to exit QRO tomorrow

188's ferry flight from ICN>SEA has now been cancelled for the last 3 days...wonder what's going on with her?
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n188dn

B757Forever wrote:

gdavis003 wrote:

notgranola wrote:

171 was flown from ATL to MDE; assuming this means it's going out of service. Sad moment; 171 was delta's first 763ER.

Don't think it's going out of service. Avianca's MRO at MDE has recently been performing mx for DL's 763s In fact, N183DN just left today and was down there for about a month, guessing it was a c-check before RTS. 171 is likely receiving a c-check as well

Correct. Avianca in MDE is performing airframe work for DL now and DL is performing component repair services for Avianca. IIRC, ship 171 was in H Check in MCI in early 2020 when Covid shut everything down. The H Check was put on hold temporarily but was eventually completed. That means 171 can fly to roughly 2026 with one more C Check in 2024.

Ship 171 is in ATL getting a fresh landing gear installed. I'm happy to see this as 171 is Delta's first 767-300ER and still chugging along with almost 138000 hours on her. A fresh C Check and a new gear tells me she'll be around a good bit longer.

Out of curiosity, is there a way to find out what ship number (B767-300ER) was flying on 13th October 1997 from VIE to ATL? It was my 1st TATL flight.

Would there be a chance that this particular 767 is still in the DL fleet?

Jano wrote:

Out of curiosity, is there a way to find out what ship number (B767-300ER) was flying on 13th October 1997 from VIE to ATL? It was my 1st TATL flight.

Would there be a chance that this particular 767 is still in the DL fleet?

There is a very good chance it's still in the fleet. Ships 1607-1613 and 1501-1506 have been sold and ship 173 was parted out. The -300ER fleet once numbered 59, its now at 45 (a few remain to be reactivated).

Jano wrote:

Out of curiosity, is there a way to find out what ship number (B767-300ER) was flying on 13th October 1997 from VIE to ATL? It was my 1st TATL flight.

Would there be a chance that this particular 767 is still in the DL fleet?

IIRC, the routing of that aircraft was ATL-VIE-BUD-VIE-ATL if that helps. The BUD tag on was later dropped and the A/C was switched to an L-1011-500 until Nov. 30,1998 (Delta's last transatlantic L-1011 flight).

Jano wrote:

Out of curiosity, is there a way to find out what ship number (B767-300ER) was flying on 13th October 1997 from VIE to ATL? It was my 1st TATL flight.

Would there be a chance that this particular 767 is still in the DL fleet?

Try this website:

https://wandr.me/bts/

International routes can only be seen by "First Class members", which I am not, and not all data is available especially that far back. But it can look up flight data as early as 1995 so it's probably your best available resource.

DL_Mech wrote:

Jano wrote:

Out of curiosity, is there a way to find out what ship number (B767-300ER) was flying on 13th October 1997 from VIE to ATL? It was my 1st TATL flight.

Would there be a chance that this particular 767 is still in the DL fleet?

IIRC, the routing of that aircraft was ATL-VIE-BUD-VIE-ATL if that helps. The BUD tag on was later dropped and the A/C was switched to an L-1011-500 until Nov. 30,1998 (Delta's last transatlantic L-1011 flight).

I can confirm that was the routing. I was on the flight in Dec of that year with the quick stop in VIE.

audidudi wrote:

188's ferry flight from ICN>SEA has now been cancelled for the last 3 days...wonder what's going on with her?
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n188dn

Not sure what caused the delay, but it's in the air now to SEA.

B757Forever wrote:

B757Forever wrote:

gdavis003 wrote:

Don't think it's going out of service. Avianca's MRO at MDE has recently been performing mx for DL's 763s In fact, N183DN just left today and was down there for about a month, guessing it was a c-check before RTS. 171 is likely receiving a c-check as well

Correct. Avianca in MDE is performing airframe work for DL now and DL is performing component repair services for Avianca. IIRC, ship 171 was in H Check in MCI in early 2020 when Covid shut everything down. The H Check was put on hold temporarily but was eventually completed. That means 171 can fly to roughly 2026 with one more C Check in 2024.

Ship 171 is in ATL getting a fresh landing gear installed. I'm happy to see this as 171 is Delta's first 767-300ER and still chugging along with almost 138000 hours on her. A fresh C Check and a new gear tells me she'll be around a good bit longer.

That's got to be close to a record for a passenger 767? I have a piece of N665US, a NW/DL 747 that flew 14,000 cycles and 113,325 hrs and I thought that was pretty good. What are the hours on Delta's oldest wide bodies? Guessing they are all 767s now.

fanoftristars wrote:

B757Forever wrote:

B757Forever wrote:

Correct. Avianca in MDE is performing airframe work for DL now and DL is performing component repair services for Avianca. IIRC, ship 171 was in H Check in MCI in early 2020 when Covid shut everything down. The H Check was put on hold temporarily but was eventually completed. That means 171 can fly to roughly 2026 with one more C Check in 2024.

Ship 171 is in ATL getting a fresh landing gear installed. I'm happy to see this as 171 is Delta's first 767-300ER and still chugging along with almost 138000 hours on her. A fresh C Check and a new gear tells me she'll be around a good bit longer.

That's got to be close to a record for a passenger 767? I have a piece of N665US, a NW/DL 747 that flew 14,000 cycles and 113,325 hrs and I thought that was pretty good. What are the hours on Delta's oldest wide bodies? Guessing they are all 767s now.

Ship 171 is the highest hour Delta aircraft with almost 138000 hours and right at 20K cycles. The remaining ships in the 170 series are not far behind.

NWAJT8D wrote:

Jano wrote:

Try this website:

https://wandr.me/bts/

International routes can only be seen by "First Class members", which I am not, and not all data is available especially that far back. But it can look up flight data as early as 1995 so it's probably your best available resource.

I don’t recommend paying for the First Class - I tried it in order to get international flight data and it turns out they didn’t actually have any. I do like this site because it’s easier to use than the actual BTS site but it doesn’t seem to have any data that’s not in BTS, which doesn’t have any international flight info.

Ex-LATAM A350 ship 3575 (N575DZ) exit is imminent from SIN.

fanoftristars wrote:

B757Forever wrote:

B757Forever wrote:

Correct. Avianca in MDE is performing airframe work for DL now and DL is performing component repair services for Avianca. IIRC, ship 171 was in H Check in MCI in early 2020 when Covid shut everything down. The H Check was put on hold temporarily but was eventually completed. That means 171 can fly to roughly 2026 with one more C Check in 2024.

Ship 171 is in ATL getting a fresh landing gear installed. I'm happy to see this as 171 is Delta's first 767-300ER and still chugging along with almost 138000 hours on her. A fresh C Check and a new gear tells me she'll be around a good bit longer.

That's got to be close to a record for a passenger 767? I have a piece of N665US, a NW/DL 747 that flew 14,000 cycles and 113,325 hrs and I thought that was pretty good. What are the hours on Delta's oldest wide bodies? Guessing they are all 767s now.

Several of the NW DC-10-30 acquired by ATA in 2007 were near or above 120k/20k.

N225NW had 128,960 hours and 28,009 cycles when acquired. It continued operating as N706TZ until ATA ceased operating in April 2008.

fanoftristars wrote:

B757Forever wrote:

B757Forever wrote:

Correct. Avianca in MDE is performing airframe work for DL now and DL is performing component repair services for Avianca. IIRC, ship 171 was in H Check in MCI in early 2020 when Covid shut everything down. The H Check was put on hold temporarily but was eventually completed. That means 171 can fly to roughly 2026 with one more C Check in 2024.

Ship 171 is in ATL getting a fresh landing gear installed. I'm happy to see this as 171 is Delta's first 767-300ER and still chugging along with almost 138000 hours on her. A fresh C Check and a new gear tells me she'll be around a good bit longer.

That's got to be close to a record for a passenger 767? I have a piece of N665US, a NW/DL 747 that flew 14,000 cycles and 113,325 hrs and I thought that was pretty good. What are the hours on Delta's oldest wide bodies? Guessing they are all 767s now.

Yes 138000 hours should be close to the record for a passenger B767-300ER. 2 years ago, the Air Canada B767-300ER C-FCAE was retired and held the record with more than 139000 flight hours, see https://www.morson.com/blog/2019/11/air ... -of-flight . Note that it underwent cargo conversion in the meantime and is now flying for Cargojet.

777Mech wrote:

Ex-LATAM A350 ship 3575 (N575DZ) exit is imminent from SIN.

It is scheduled on the ATL-SCL for Thurs June 2nd (10p) - can it make there in time?

dalmit wrote:

777Mech wrote:

Ex-LATAM A350 ship 3575 (N575DZ) exit is imminent from SIN.

It is scheduled on the ATL-SCL for Thurs June 2nd (10p) - can it make there in time?

I don't think so. There should be a few more checkouts done in MSP before it'll hit revenue service. I doubt they do FDA inspections in SIN.

777Mech wrote:

dalmit wrote:

777Mech wrote:

Ex-LATAM A350 ship 3575 (N575DZ) exit is imminent from SIN.

It is scheduled on the ATL-SCL for Thurs June 2nd (10p) - can it make there in time?

I don't think so. There should be a few more checkouts done in MSP before it'll hit revenue service. I doubt they do FDA inspections in SIN.

Currently on a test flight SIN-SIN as DL9980.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n575dz